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gobbogoo · 2 months

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"It's Been A While, Morgott"

To me, this moment of tenderness all but confirms that Godfrey must have visited his Omen children in their sewer prison.

Consider everything we know about Godfrey. He actively venerated the Crucible and its primal manifestations. His knights wore helms decorated with horns and utilized its animalistic magic:

Even after the Crucible fell from favour, these knights were tolerated right up until Godfrey was banished. Therefore Godfrey must have been preserving them even despite Marika's decrees. This makes sense, because Godfrey was born in the ancient era when the Crucible's wild power was considered a blessing, not a curse:

"A vestige of the crucible of primordial life. Born partially of devolution, it was considered a signifier of the divine in ancient times, but is now increasingly disdained as an impurity as civilization has advanced."

To Godfrey, his Omen sons would not have been something to revile. This is supported by the fact that their horns weren't excised. I doubt it was Marika's choice, since she had turned against the Crucible by then. It MUST have been at Godfrey's behest. Likewise, who else could have commissioned THIS?

A "memorial fetish fashioned in secret" that CLEARLY depicts Morgott. Someone CARED about this secret Omen infant. Enough to memorialize their their existence at the risk of the entire Golden Order. It literally ONLY could have been Godfrey.

Lastly, there's the circumstances of Godfrey's banishment. Most people say he was simply cast aside after he ran out of enemies to fight, but this CAN'T be all there was to it, because Raya Lucaria still existed. A FAR better explanation is that Godfrey began to show signs of disobedience. Godfrey was a man of instinct and emotion. Could such a man have sat idle while his children were imprisoned and his comrades reviled by the very order HE helped build?

No. And so Godfrey began to visit his Omen children in secret, where he told them stories of their lineage and their origins. In Morgott his stories instilled a Lord's sense of duty for the Erdtree and everything it could be.

In Mohg, his stories instilled an Omen's sense of pride for the Crucible, and everything it once was.

Until Marika learned of her husband's treachery, and the Omen Twins never saw their father again.

EDITED IN EXTRA OBSERVATION:

Someone pointed out that Serosh exists to channel Godfrey's emotions, and what's the first thing we hear/see when we approach Godfrey holding his son? Serosh roaring in anger. Beneath that kingly countenance, Godfrey is a lot more distraught than he's capable of showing.

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driften-sea-snake · 12 days

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The Greater Will Doesn't Exist

There is no greater will in the universe. Existence precedes essence. Limited by our mortal, subjective perspectives, it is natural to yearn for some sort of larger design or unity. The vast, lonely distances of individual consciousness make the universe seem like a collection of tiny islands in the vast expanse of an ocean, doomed to one day sink. It seems impossible to reach across and truly understand another's experience of reality.

Elden Ring's themes concern the solitude of consciousness and the struggle to connect to a larger unity of all existence. Marika and Radagon were the same individual, but once split were forever changed by their different experiences and could not simply merge again. This is a microcosm of many stories in Elden Ring. All life was once unified in the Crucible, free of the burden of subjectivity and disparity. Whether yearning for home, rebirth, understanding or a larger purpose, so many characters in one way or another wish to return to the Crucible. Regression is the pull of all meaning, after all. As the Frenzied Flame incantations make clear, suffering is inherent to subjective experience. This is represented by these incantations expressing pain-derived spells through the eyes, a symbol of individual perception. Hyetta seeks to literally use the eyes of multiple people to surpass her own limited perspective and find a more universal truth. In the end, the Frenzied Flame seeks to return the universe to the shared harmony of unified existence. However, much like Marika and Radagon, subjectivity cannot be undone. There is no going back to the Crucible. All the characters and factions of the Lands Between can do is hope to simulate it.

The Greater Will is the ultimate manifestation of this, a childish wish by an orphan to not be alone, adrift in the cold. The Elden Beast is a lost child above all else. Its isolation is underlined by the inability of most beings to even comprehend its "language." It must be very lonely to only be heard and understood by a handful of other individuals. However, there were other beings it was supposed to share existence with. If you look at the body of the Elden Beast, it is immediately clear that it resembles an Erdtree. It has roots, a trunk, and branch-like wings. That's because it is an Erdtree, or at least was supposed to be. At the very top of the creature is a bright orb-an eye. This single eye indicates a subjective experience of the universe. The Elden Beast is an Erdtree seed that, in the aftermath of the end of the Crucible, developed consciousness. Isolated from it's brethren, by chance or by choice it traveled to a world that held an Erdtree. This one was much closer to the days of the Crucible. Indeed, the other Erdtrees in the cosmic background of the final boss arena suggest that they still share a kind of shared existence or connection. Unable to give up its individuality the Elden Beast was left with the powers of an Erdtree and an eye with which to perceive the unity it could not join.

The Golden Order is the Elden Beast's attempt to use its powers as a sentient Erdtree to try to recreate the shared unity of the Crucible. If consciousness could not be reversed, then perhaps there was a way to get around it. If every single being in the universe were to agree on the same story of life and death, united and granted purpose by a larger design, would that not be a kind of unified reality? Grace literally changes the eyes of all individuals granted it. Most inhabitants of the Lands Between have golden eyes with which to view the world. Though all those eyes connect back to subjective experiences of reality, they see things in the same way that the Elden Beast's golden eye does. With Marika as its chosen vessel and god, the people of the Lands Between share the same cosmology and faith. At death, bodies are returned to the Erdtree so that they can forever be joined in unity, now having lost their individuality.

At the center of this shared narrative is the Greater Will. It's clear that people in the Lands Between believe it is a god that literally exists. However, I don't think this definitively has to be the case. Even if the Greater Will is an Outer God, these seem to represent primordial emotions and desires more than a being hanging out somewhere in space. In any case, I believe the Greater Will doesn't actually exist. The Elden Beast is described as a "vassal" of the Greater Will. It is an adherent of the idea that inherent order and purpose exist in reality. The concept of the Greater Will suggests that the universe follows some sort of design. It is only in that case that essence can precede existence. This kind of universal truth would exist beyond tiny islands of individual consciousness. For the Elden Beast this idea offers the unity of life that the Crucible once held.

The Elden Beast doesn't literally believe that the Greater Will exists out there. However, it does believe that its own efforts have in a sense created a greater, conscious force in the universe. There is a large degree of self-awareness to the Golden Order. It is a kind of narrative construction that seeks to avoid the organic, messy material changes and human agency that actually form history. It has to constantly adapt its story, expelling and welcoming elements to compensate for the changes of the world. Even references to and signs of the Crucible were eventually purged. The Golden Order is supposed to be a bastion of unending stability; reminders of the past and omens of the future have no place in an eternal present. Change is what the Elden Beast seeks to control. It was change that ended the Crucible, that led to the development of individuality and consciousness. However, life is change, and nothing lasts forever.

By the time Elden Ring starts, the end result of the Elden Beast's attempt to recreate the Crucible is eternal stagnation. It seems content to let the current state of affairs continue forever, or perhaps it is as lost and afraid as when it first gained awareness. The Golden Order demands faith in a shared, inherent purpose in the universe. It can only trust in something that exists outside the mortal, limited perceptions of individuals. The Greater Will does not require eyes to perceive it in order to exist. The Elden Beast does not realize that this kind of truth no longer exists after the end of the Crucible. It does not know how to put faith in the idea that the eyes of another person behold the same reality as ourselves, or that it is through those same eyes that the proof of our own existence is found.

#elden ring #elden ring shadow of the erdtree #shadow of the erdtree #queen marika #elden beast #radagon of the golden order #elden ring crucible #frenzied flame #hyetta #greater will #the golden order #erdtree #i've been writing this idea for a year and felt compelled to just release the summary version of it. i have to finish the full version

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mcnostril · 9 months

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There's been some frustration further into Spavined Cirque where it seemed like certain skills might become obsolete, but fortunately some characters return to indulge those who studied the small pointy blade.

#mcnostril #comics #elden ring #tarnished #crucible knight #fanart

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k-k-armadillo · 1 year

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if u need me ill be at the volcano manor

#elden ring #rya the scout #lady tannith #crucible knight #patches the untethered #i think his first name is estrogen #kkartmadillo #body horror // just a bit

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herheim731 · 18 days

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#fanart #illustration #elden ring #elden ring fanart #crucible knight

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nightmaresyrup · 3 months

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Crucible....CRUCIFEROUS KNIGHT Devonia original chraccturrr, not at all salty about Crucible Knights nope no sireee........ All veggies for them!!!! YUM YUM CHOMP!!

#crucible knight #elden ring #cruciferous vegetables #cabbage #brocolli #brussel sprouts

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malignedaffairs · 1 month

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The anchor ring that houses the base

#elden ring #morgott the omen king #margit the fell #my own work #man he's so much fun to draw #shiita is all subtle accents #morgott is all texture #all these gnarly horns and folds and scars and hairs #truly a crucible king <3 #love him #ahh i'm almost at stormveil castle on my current playthrough #time to die to margit and listen to him scolding me for my ambitions over and over again

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ashinaisshin · 2 months

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Mother, wouldst thou truly Lordship sanction, in ones so bereft of light? ELDEN RING: SHADOW OF THE ERDTREE, coming June 21, 2024

#elden ring #eldenringedit #gamingedit #dailygaming #edit:gif #edit:all #flashing tw #that high monk aow lookin sick #and the crucible knight wings 🔥 (tho not sure how practical it is lol)#miyazaki said the map is 'bigger than limgrave'#which is smaller than i thought? but he also said its more interconnected like dark souls #which would be amazing bc i love the tighter levels in ds #i know it'll have a lot of content but ngl $40 feels a bit pricey for a dlc #i think i will wait a bit and see... tho i'll prob just give in before a discount comes around sksksk

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tarnished-brainrot · 6 months

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What a good boy

#elden ring #misbegotten #leonine misbegotten #crucible knight #tarnished #my doodles

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dragoncult-handmaiden · 8 months

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If you are a woman who plays Elden Ring, PLEASE REBLOG THIS!!!!

I have not met a single woman irl who plays Elden Ring, and it saddens me. I don’t know many women in general who are gamers. Hell, I’ve only met one other serious female gamer in my life

I’m NOT saying this as a pick me sort of thing. The beauty of streamers is that since we can see them online, it gives us the illusion that female gamers are everywhere. But we are not. We are in the vast minority.

So please, if you are a woman and play Elden Ring, reblog this! Female gamers unite, we need more representation!!

And can we appreciate the badass women of Elden Ring while we’re at it??? We couldn’t have made it through the game without the guidance of multiple women. And also THANK YOU FROMSOFT for not sexualizing any women in the game. I LOVE WOMEN RAHHHHH

Tumblr wouldn’t let me add any more pics, I love all women in Elden ring (except Marika for obvious reasons)

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seaquestions · 1 year

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an honour to have you.

[ID: a drawing of lady tanith and her crucible knight from elden ring referencing the accolade by edmund blair-leighton. tanith is standing in front of her chair in volcano manor and holds a long thin sword over the crucible knight's shoulder, who is kneeling in front of her. a harsh shadow is cast at the top of the canvas. behind her is a framed portrait of rykard, mostly obscured. the piece is in a limited colour palette of greens and oranges. End ID]

#elden ring #lady tanith #crucible knight #volcano manor #niksartstuffs #i havent Actually gotten here myself but i like her #ik ik the bg is all wack but i wanted the rykard painting to be there.#i like them... i know theyre the almost comically villainous faction but i'd love to be part of the volcano manor polycule.#they literally live inside a volcano. like cmon.

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mcnostril · 1 year

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