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just listened to the pod and although i agree the william doesn’t HATE women’s football, a lot of your arguments relied on “whataboutism”…. like sure the late queen or charles didn’t go to support their patron sports team, or the prime minister didn’t go either, but that doesn’t absolve william. you downplay the importance of his attendance but also stated he’s the reason you even know about some female players. but anyway, i also think he should definitely step down from the FA presidency - it involves too much passion for a “neutral” figure head
I can understand why you've interpreted it that way - to the point where I already had most of this answer prepared in my drafts - but it's inaccurate. I can only speak for the things I said in that episode so if you have a problem with something Grace said you can talk to her (she'd be happy to argue with you and tbh I think it's pretty telling about your view that you chose me to message and not Grace...) but that segment of the episode has two parts:
Why I don't think it's a big deal William didn't go and
Why I'm upset by the general narrative from the public and press
There were only two reasons I didn't think it was a big deal that William didn't go. I can show you my notes if you refuse to believe me.
The work he does for the England WNT and the men's national team is not drastically different now. It's not the same situation as it was in 2022 when William had done absolutely fuck all for women's sport and we both criticised him extensively. The players themselves have spoken repeatedly about the support and engagement they feel from him and
It's Australia. It's 10,000 fucking miles away. Spending tax payer money (from all four nations of the UK) to send a leader in climate change to Australia for what is effectively 5 minutes of work celebrating England is frankly absurd and I genuinely cannot fathom why anyone ever thought he'd go. Especially as it risks inflaming tensions given no one has been to Australia since the change of reign. If you listen back - I don't know, maybe you skipped over this bit, maybe you chose to disregard it - I clearly state that the problem wasn't that William didn't go to Australia it was that he didn't prepare for the fact he wasn't going to Australia. We both stated that he should have done more to support the team but he should have done it from home.
So if you can tell me where the whataboutism is there that would be grand as those were the only two arguments I made.
The rest was about the general narrative - as I said in the episode - and has no impact on my standpoint on William's decision in any way. It wasn't about William at all from my perspective, and what I said was entirely about the undercurrent of bigotry in the criticism of William. I am a Scottish woman and I don't think it's wrong that I find it upsetting when people believe English women matter more than anyone else. See the disparity in the reaction to William not going to Australia vs the reaction when Welsh people spoke about his lack of support for their team. At least he actually wanted the English women to win!! Whether you care or not, it is a problem that William got crucified for not going to Australia, and yet Welsh or Scottish people (and tons of other groups) get crucified for just politely asking for him not to want us to lose. In the course of a conversation about football and the public reaction to inequality in William's support, it is natural that a Scottish woman would mention the fact that the public and the press have shown nothing but bigotry towards us for the entire 17 years William has been President of the FA. It's natural that I would mention that even if William's support for the English women's team could be better, the public and the press treat the English women's team a million times better than they treat the Scottish or Welsh or Australian women's teams. If now isn't a good time to discuss it because it's "whataboutism" but every other day of the year is also not a good time to discuss it because it'll lead to a public hate campaign by the press and the public, when exactly is the right time?
So I don't consider it whataboutism because I was not saying that William's choice was any better or worse as a result of my point. I consider it a related conversation about my personal issues with the fact that people are claiming on social media to be holier than thou because of their standpoint in this while at best deliberately ignoring and at worst actively celebrating other, worse, forms of inequality. If you consider that whataboutism I truly don't care, because I'm right.
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Just racism right now 🤨🤨🤨🤨 which is as I have said the most horrific of all
Oh okay that was just to establish why he ain't been home
Be the change white boy
Drop that family
They did try to leave Hella early
They clearly got drugged and now some alien done metaled up the exits
The neighbors will hear.....
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That you need help?
peak wasp
He just insulted everybody and himself
Reality show - correct answer
Celebrity show - airhead
The authorities -
She's observant though - clocks
Promote ORDER
Terrorism
They sit sis next to king racist?
Duty, this father is a Lil too archypical
Lol first lie
Also they are clearly observing
You know
Canned food?
Another... There's two health care workers bleach body scrub isn't..
They don't have a fucking tub?
Downstairs for what?
As soon as they make amends they introduced another variable
Just random insane back of needles unsealed no fake govt tag
Lol they decided to at least sterilize them
The guy literally looked like he did it IV and the other guy did IM
They didn't even ask about pregnant under 5 years over idk 75 years allergies
This is just the will people submit to unknown authority sociological experiment
I hoped they were smart enough to pretend to take it
That's the first time the TV acknowledged it can see what's going on instead of just a best guess
Acceptable loss
Now there is a default hierarchy struggle
Because there has to be "a person" "in charge"
They literally attacking each other
Mom is DOING THE WHITE WOMAN WASP WORK
Ignore
Downplay
Placate
Calm
Diffuse
Distract
Avoid fighting at all costs
Omg it's not amazing IT'S CREEPY
I never forget
She's really insecure about her intelligence. I never understand why people like that don't just like.. learn more?
I SEE YOU
One drink
I'm going to work on the study
(this is my dad when his kids are hurt he can't deal and he leaves the room)
So they have accepted they can hear them but Not That's its clearly NOT the government or they just don't care anymore because they have already submitted to that authority
How she get sepsis that fucking quick?
peak WASP go clean the house
Well dad might actually be making himself useful... Maybe
Holes in the house
The issue is that these characters are just a bit overplayed
Things can spiral without them being crazy
Is he planning to kill the kid?
Let's try logic. You bloodied his nose and taped his mouth those are the ONLY TWO breathing orafices if memory serves
Extract information from sleeper agent
Box cutting your kid
Now an eyeball
Whoop Katy Kate n bb
Not looking at the information is peak 2019 political climate idiocracy disinformation era
The facts are there and I will shut my eyes and slap them out of your hand
WHOOOO mama lost it the wasp crumbles on the death of one child
Here come the gas
Whoa shit it's like uh napalm burns on contact then explodes
His whole family just died (mom)
Sneks
So camera metal walls
Burning gas
Earthquake
Now religious angle
Curious they went with the your TV is the cause of disinformation not the internet
That angles it at main stream media plus the older white generations on racism
That's squarely fox news is making your old white family members crazy or what's UK? Murdoch owned sky? fox
And you too unless
Kill crazed older generation before they kill you
The young brown intelligent will kill the old whites
The TV will literally kill you?
So many possible metaphors to one scene
Technomancy
Lol but clamation
OK now it's
Your old white man is literally a puppet of your tv
Now the join me
Young white man join the hate like your father and be an abuser
Or fuck a hot smart brown chick and don't be a racist loser
Plug into the TV and do what it says until you die
Raise your baby on hate
Nicely done
And the pan out for the global invasion
Nice work slow clap
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This is @queer-verse’s ask about ep 249!!!🍿🥤🍭🍬🍫🧋🥨🥬🍦🍧🧊🐇
!!!!!WARNING MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!! !!!!!READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!!
Ep 249!!
Warning this is long lol
- the mind games have begun
- im still sure that sera isn't gonna fall for it but it must be really rough for her rn
- lmao i screamed when she told him to group up
- as in my anxiety kicked in
- like how tf do u even do that, esp when uk they don't want u there
- LMAO THE "HELLO 🤗"
- I COULD NEVER
- HE REALLY HAS NO SHAME
- "it must be a sign" ASSRFVJN
- and oof i was waiting for a confrontation
- i wasn't really vibing w this weird lets be fake nice limbo
- and Honestly Blyke has so much to work thru. like hes a hypocrite rn, but i think the only way forward is accepting is that he was once just like john, just way less extreme
- and hello? the dialogue is killing me. most of the drama in uno starts bc no one knows how to use their words
- if someone beat me up brutally for months and then said it was bc of my headspace, i would be furious too (not that blyke is totally justified). thats not even close to a real apology (if john already apologized i forgot sorry)
- but thb
- they dont deserve an apology unless they own up as well
- like why r they "putting up" w john rn? all of them? its bc they all feel guilty deel down, but noone is ready to own up.
- "saints for being able to keep their cool"???? hello? did u just point at arlo? boi, they haven't denied their actions as deeply as u have. they know that they were at fault as well.
- everyone had kinda concluded "we've all fucked up, so lets just silently move on and be polite to eachother" on their own
- and blyke broke that mutual agreement
- and im glad. stuff needs to be said
- arlo was the biggest piece of shit for what he did. he was a flaming arse hole, the worst of em all. and even tho he kinda realized it, it was for all the wrong reasons and he STILL hasnt give a legit apology
- blyke comes second, ive given my reasons. He's come far but he still has a long way to go. so many apologies
- remi is the embodiment of toxic positivity and i really hope that Changes. she might owe a general apology to john for not being a better queen at first but assuming she was doing good anyway. ill never understand why she didn't try to carry on her brothers legacy. i mean, i do understand but sis didn't even try
- isen 😭😭 he needs to treat john like person. but honestly, the way hes so done is peak entertainment
- obvs there are things john needs to be sorry for as well, but its like thats the only thing everyone (in the story) sees
- anyway, w the way hes going i bet john is going to be the first one to step up in the group, good for him.
- good for fucking him that he went after Blyke
- JOHN MY KING
- SEE THIS IS WHAT I MEAN HES SO MUCH BETTER THAN BLYKE RN
- yea, and blyke needs to cope w the fact that he was a part of the fucked upness of the heirarchy, and that somewhere in there, john had a point
- he needs to accept that someone who hurt everything he cares about is actually just a person who is trying to change just like john has
- perpetually obsessed w the trope of a lowerclass less privileged "genius" rising to the top and being rooted for but then they slowly get more and more questionable and loose support and get called the fuck out but we realize that theyre just doing what the "rich" did all along and it's not fair that they're the only one who had repercussions
- like that's basically human history
- YESSSSS
- FOR A SEC I THOUGHT IT WAS SPECTRE BUT THIS IS FINE
- LMAO DONT HATE ME BUT I MISSED THE FIGHTS
- IM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO OUT FIRST FIGHT IN A LONG TIME
- BLYKE AND JOHN CAN KICK👏THEIR 👏 FUCKING 👏BUTTS👏
- IM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT EPISODE EVEN MORE THAN I DID AFTER 245
- IM IN MIDDLE SCHOOL SCREAMING FIGHTFIGHTFIGHTFIGHT
- Boba anon 🧋
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*I’m guessing she’s not gonna fall for it since she told John to go group with the others
*God John is such a menace
*I personally don’t think Blyke’s being a hypocrite. Like to me I think Blyke has a wayyy better reason to act like this to John than John did to Blyke
*Like Blyke got trauma from the Joker v Royals fight and with all of the further fights between Blyke and John and with John actively targeting Safe House, Blyke learned that John’s a threat
*Stuff like that takes a long time to work out
*Like he TRIED really hard to be John’s friend like he said this episode
*And I don’t think John’s actually apologized to anyone other than Sera but I might be wrong
*I mean the royals kinda did own up
*Especially Blyke and Arlo considering they owned up to people other than John
*The big example of this is Safe House and the new peace at Wellston
*But I absolutely wouldn’t say Blyke is hiding what he did
*I mean the Zeke v Blyke fight he literally says that the royals fucked up and how they needed to do better and stop bullying everyone
*I understand both the polite move on and Blyke’s point
*Like the polite part is to keep the peace and bc they can’t go back and change things, they can only more forwards
*And as I mentioned before, Blyke literally has at least a minor form of PTSD from the crap John did
*He has so many symptoms of minor PTSD
*Plus Blyke seems like the type of guy to treat others how he’s treated
*He’s super nice to Remi, he’s sarcastic and crap with Isen, he’s respectful to Arlo and Sera
*The only thing he’s gotten from John is hatred and aggression
*Didn’t Remi apologize when she met with John in his room? I might be remembering wrong though😅
*I think everyone’s just trying to do what’s best
*Plus I don’t think John would be accepting of their apologies
*Like up until this trip, he didn’t give a shit about anyone other than Sera
*While I give John props for going after Blyke, Blyke doesn’t owe John anything
*Like John’s done NOTHING but hurt people Blyke cares about and be an asshole from the moment they met
*I don’t blame Blyke at all
*Like I’d be soo pissed if I were in his shoes
*Bc from Blyke’s perspective John’s just this super dude that pretended to be weak for a lil while, got angry and then hurt a lot of people, including putting me and my best friend in the hospital before targeting the club members of the Safe House that was created to help out people
*Like I’m p sure that Blyke doesn’t even know that John’s ability developed late (i might be wrong though)
*John’s just a bloodthirsty bully for the entirety of the student body except Sera, Arlo, and maybe Remi
*Idk
*But yes!!! I’m so excited to see them fight together!!!
*Also John canonically only has 1 method of making friends and that’s to just keep following people around, even when they tell him to leave them alone until they just give up
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