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[vts-ship-and-let-ship]

"but forced therapy and institutionalization is bad and people shouldn’t be celebrating that." ok so should we just let them free to do whatever they want and continue sending death and rape threats to people? There's no way they would ever agree to therapy on their own, and if they need to be MADE to go and kept away from the internet then so be it, at least no one will have to suffer their harassment and threats. They're a fucking menace.

Therapy is supposed to help you gain coping mechanisms for your mental health issues, not a dumping grounds for people who do awful shit.

Forced Therapy won’t fucking help anyone and would make the problem worse get your head out of your ass, also don’t advocate for shit that causes medical abuse, to people who are mentally disabled. Thanks.

You’re on anon, so you’re not gonna engage with this in good faith, but hey I’ll bite.

You’re not advocating for healthy helpful therapeutic practices. And I’m sure @antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx would absolutely love to back me up on the fact, PEOPLE IN THERAPY DO NOT GET BETTER BY BEING FORCED!

PEOPLE IN THERAPY DO NOT GO TO THERAPY FOR OTHER PEOPLE’S BENEFIT!

DEMONIZING SOMEONE AS A REASON THEY SHOULD SEEK THERAPY IS A FUCKING ABLEIST THING!

Assuming there is something wrong with someone mentally because they send death threats and rape threats so they should go to therapy, is awful. I don’t know how to tell you that therapy, like seeing a doctor, is for dealing with your own issues.

No one being forced into therapy is going to come out “okay”. 9 times out of 10 it’ll reinforce their beliefs.

Ally didn’t fucking condone the rape and death threats. Ally pointed out that celebrating forced therapy is a fucking awful practice that’s lead to medical trauma and systematic abuse.

But hey you know, when you come into our inbox, when we’ve talked extensively about trauma and abuse, and you’re like, “oh well it’s deserved”.

I don’t know how to tell you that I would never trust you near mentally ill or neurodivergent people who might have intrusive thoughts or bad symptoms.

Also fun fact, did you know this is one of the most fucked up asks I’ve ever gotten in my inbox. I didn’t know how to react. Like. What do I say other than I hope to fucking god I never meet you in real life.

Your insistence that this is better for everyone else, is false, and also too fucking close to people who think it’s okay to,

Force “dangerous” mentally ill people into facilities.

Where they lose their rights as people and might as well live in prison for the rest of their lives.

Hey another fun fact, an abuse survivor with Schizophrenia can never leave a hospital because rather than work with her issues, they labelled her as unsalvageable after she went through horrible sexual, emotional and physical abuse from both her parents.

But you know, so long as we get rid of the “menaces”.

“We should let them” you’re not even fucking involved with their therapy, shut the fuck up. You have no idea what’s going on in their real life so you can’t make fucking judgement. Stop acting like a moral saviour and like you’re such hot shit, you don’t allow them to do shit, and if they didn’t get caught, you have very little to fucking stop them. There’s a fucking line to celebrating something that can end in mental trauma and acting like what they did was okay. You have black and white thinking buddy.

Get off my blog, or better yet, come off anon, I WILL BLOCK YOUR ASS MYSELF.

- Dragon

Sidenote: this is about an addition Ally made with some input on me, saying we shouldn’t celebrate IHPAZ’s forced therapy given their parents were willing to institutionalize them. And that it’s not the best course of action and even gave examples of what might actually happen as a result.

I answered because at first he was confused then hurt. I’d be much more polite if they were gonna act in good faith, but they’re not.

Honestly I’m tired of bad faith shit. I’m an angry call of rage, and as someone who has had a bad therapist, it ended up fucking me over. Therapy shouldn’t be forced onto someone, it’s literally about working through your issues and coping HEALTHILY. Ya can’t do that forced.

Ally is glad IHPAZ isn’t threatening people anymore.

Also this fucko completely ignored my addition that EXISTS ON THAT THREAD to cherry pick a single fucking line from Ally.

To then harass us over that line.

#heavy ableism #dragon speaks #anon #shitty anons to make dragon mad #ihpaz discourse #ihpaz tw #ihpaz

[notsimplysusurrus]

Get. Help. Jesus Christ. It’s like we need a whole goddamn blog to call out their bullshit, but that’d be giving them the negative attention they obviously so desperately crave. I’ll keep a record ig bc they have me blocked but don’t interact. Just block them and move on.

#mod fiver #original #antis being antis #rape mention #death threats tw #paedophilia mention #ihpaz receipts

[someoneintheshadow456]

WE GOT ANOTHER ONE LADS

I think I may have come across another Fandom Frollo (aka - closet MAP who screeches at fiction and accuses everyone else of being sex offenders to cover their ass). First it was IHPAZ, then it was rasinrat, then it was the Twitter Purity Crusade CP ring (yes, that’s ACTUALLY a thing!), and now... I think I might have caught another one of these jokers in the act. 

Below the cut: TW for graphic language and descriptions of CSEM

What the hell kind of pedos has this person been seeing? Because they most certainly don’t use Disney villain style dialogues to groom their charges. If they did, there’s NO WAY they’d be able to successfully groom someone because nobody, even children, is stupid enough to go for a devil in plain sight. This is a trait I see of Fandom Frollos all the time – they assign these stupid, over-the-top fictional lines that NO real person would say unironically towards what they believe to be pedos. But they sound very creepy and strangely detailed… almost like they got off on writing that.

Blatant accusations with zero proof – another classic Fandom Frollo tactic. If I accuse everyone else of being pedos, then I’m clearly helping! Look at me protecting the kids! Look at me being wholesome and pure!!

Their response?

WTF?! What the fresh hell. NOBODY said anything about looking at children in such a disgusting way. That’s something YOU pulled out of your behind for some godforsaken reason. How does ANYONE look at “banning cartoons won’t help because pedos will be pedos whether cartoons exist or not” and think “ahh yes, this is saying CSEM is okay!” Also, AGAIN, note the very descriptive and graphic language of something they ostensibly are trying to fight against.  

Me: Banning cartoons won’t help. It’s like saying banning guns will stop murderers. The murderers will keep existing, they’ll just move on to knives instead. Comprehensive sex ed and self-defence courses for minors are the best way of stopping pedos. The young generation being armed and informed is always a pedo’s biggest weakness

This clown: Okay! Let’s NEVER do anything to stop pedos ever again!

Why do I have a feeling that’s EXACTLY what this person wants?

“I’m not an abuse apologist! I just think that we can blame the actions of rapists on fiction and that it’s totally okay to call rape victims gross for saying otherwise!”

Again, WHAT’S WITH THE HYPERFIXATION ON CHILD RAPE IN PARTICULAR?! If you’re so disgusted with the idea, why do you keep throwing those evil words around?!

There is ABSOLUTELY no way a person can be this ignorant – especially someone claiming to be a CSA survivor, regarding the use of religion in child grooming. But I gave them the benefit of doubt and explained anyway, and made it very clear that religion wasn’t to blame, it was EVIL PEOPLE twisting religion so they can use it as an excuse to be evil:

Their Galaxy Brained response, which is TOTALLY not a deflection from the shitty things they might be doing:

Ah yes – with THIS icon, there’s no way you could have found out what my race was! Obviously, my profile picture is SO WHITE that nobody could have just, well, CLICKED on it to see that I clearly wasn’t!! Do I need to make another DP with me in saree and a blatant red sniper dot on my forehead just to make things clearer for this hellsite?!  

Or how about THIS jackass response that proves, “yes, yes they ARE being intentionally obtuse”

Nobody – NOBODY who actually cares about CSA or abuse, will say something so vile when being confronted with examples of people twisting religion so that they can hurt children.

Yet another telltale sign of a fandom Frollo – a little TOO MUCH eagerness/sadistic glee from punishing pedophiles, and is WAY too vocal about their desire to hurt them. Hating pedos is the DEFAULT Sharon. You don’t get a cookie for basic decency! It reeks of “if I scream at the top of my lungs about how much I want to kill these people, nobody will know that I’m one of them!! I am very smart!!”

“Don’t teach kids how to identify a predator!! They could be ANYONE! Especially me!!”

Keep this in mind:

…for what they say next:

THEY HEARD – “PEOPLE AGAINST SEX ED TEND TO BE PEDO APOLOGISTS” AND ASSUMED I WAS TALKING ABOUT THEM.

Or how about THESE rather chilling accusations that seem to flow out of their mouth as easily as breathing?

A PSA – if you hear “sex ed” and think that it means showing minors pornography… maybe the problem lies with YOU. Maybe the one with a warped sense of sexuality is YOU. Maybe the one who is putting kids in danger is YOU. 

Them:

“How dare you call me a sex pest! I’m not a man, so I can’t be a sex pest!” – the calling card of all non-male sex pests EVERYWHERE.

If this creep comes to you, BLOCK THEIR ASS. It’s not clear if they have done anything yet, but they’re showing very dangerous signs.

#tw: csem mention #tw: csa #tw: graphic language #fandom frollos #fan pol #block and avoid #callout #anti anti #pro shipping

[androgynousblackbox]

(tw for sexual assault and csa) And this whole 'well they're a minor so they're harmless' is NOT a good narrative. I was sexually assaulted aged 10 and 14 by kids the same age as me. I was sexually abused aged 9 by a 13 year old girl. IHPAZ thinks people they dislike deserve to suffer torture and rape and we have no idea if she would be willing to harm people irl. Supporting a minor with that terrifying mindset is encouraging them to potentially hurt rl people over their idea of 'justice'

It’s literally enabling a potential abuser let that behaviour just be ignored and fester. The fact that they are (allegedly) as young should only be cause of even more concern because then you have to wonder from WHERE the fuck a fucking kid learn that was acceptable behaviour, who told them that was a reasonable response, from where did that mindset comes from. But we know that if people ever wondered that eventually they would have to point the finger to their faves or themselves.“Give them a break” is just sending the message that what they are saying to people is not that bad, that is tolerable still, and when you install that thought on someone then they will keep pushing until they finally do something that is no tolerable any longer. If no one put up some limit, then they are going to go out of their way to find that limite. That is literally the last thing you should encourage.ALSO, “give them a break” implies that we are all here cheering on whatever harassment they have going through, when that cannot be further from the truth. Whoever is there sending that evil shit, they can fucking go. And whoever think it’s not worth even talking about it too.