#kotlc vespera

[milo-igidk]

i just rlly want vespera to show up in unraveled like plsssss shannon pleaseeee ill never forgive you for killing her off but can you at least have her one more time 😭

like i dont rlly remember stellarlune that much but im like pretty sure she can do this thing with illusions where shes there even if she isnt so have her do that

#pls her interactions with keefe would either be hilarious or devistating #kotlc #keeper of the lost cities #kotlc thoughts #kotlc fandom #keefe sencen #kotlc keefe #kotlc vespera #vespera folend #kotlc unraveled

[lilliesandlight]

kotlc book 10 thought

So I was reading this kotlc post about how Shannon created too many villains. And that got me thinking… what was the point of killing Vespera? Maybe to get rid of a villain. But let’s think. What did Vespera accomplish during her life? She’s well known for helping create the illusions that surround the lost cities. What are the illusions protecting the lost cities from? The humans. What is a major problem in the lost cities? Humans have no idea about the lost cities, are messing up the world, and the lost cities don’t have room to expand because of human expansion. Not criticizing humans here, this is just the lost cities view. What I think would be cool if happened in book ten is that: Upon Vespera’s death, the illusions surrounding the lost cities collapse, and humans are exposed to the elven world.

#kotlc vespera #lost cities #kotlc #kotlc book 10

[lucyshypemaster]

vespera:

#she quite literally died for the plot #kotlc #keeper of the lost cities #vespera folend #kotlc vespera #kotlc stellarlune

[thesunshinenotebook]

It actually baffles me that Keefe and Oralie are like... The only nice Empaths in kotlc. Consider:

Cassius is a horrible father and generally a trainwreck of a human who doesn't seem to have any real feelings but just enjoys holding people (cough his son cough) to ridiculous standards of perfection to make himself look better.

Stina and her mom (Vika I think?) are selfish and stuck up, making them act rude and snobby towards others.

Vespera... She's a twisted, creepy murderer, so there's that.

Am I forgetting anyone?

They can all FEEL other people's emotions, but 4/6 of them refuse to CARE , and I'd really like to know why that is.

#kotlc #kotlc thoughts #kotlc keefe #keefe sencen #kotlc oralie #councillor oralie #kotlc cassius #cassius sencen #kotlc stina #stina heks #kotlc vespera #empathy

[myfairkatiecat]

Everybody remember this cause imma kill shannon messenger if this stuff never comes up again

#kotlc nightfall #kotlc #keeper of the lost cities #kotlc vespera

[iheart-telepaths]

Vespera: We need a strategy. Of course, we could exploit their weaknesses...we need brutality. Show our willingness to violence, let them know we are a threat. A force to be reckoned with.

Gisela: My son will soon fulfill his legacy. We as an order shall make it our priority that he undergoes the necessary changes. You're correct Vespera, we need brutality and a situation desperate enough he will be forced to acknowledge his violence-prone instincts...

Fintan next to them:

#kotlc #kotlc fandom #kotlc memes #fintan pyren #kotlc fintan #vespera folend #kotlc vespera #gisela sencen #lady gisela #kotlc gisela #kotlc neverseen

[thefoxysnake]

@keeptober day 6: nightfall

#keeptober 2023 #kotlc #kotlc fanart #kotlc vespera #ik im a day late but i was really sleepy yesterday #and i was planning on doing this prompt #my art

[flibbetygibbetsbro]

Kay so I already posted this a month or so ago, but I find it very applicable to the fandom rn

The lore in Nightfall is actually insane. You're telling me that hundreds of humans went missing, and when the Elvin Leadership did NOTHING the humans revolted so hard-core that ya'll really had to DISSAPERE from their knowledge? "But it was to keep the peace!"

Nuh uh.

If you REALLY wanted peace you would have actually looked into the disappearances. That would have been waaay easier to pull off than erasing hundreds of minds and flibbety-dippen SINKING an entire city into the ocean. Despite Elven egos, I think that the council got scared. That's right. The humans you call dumb and violent SCARED you into hiding.  We ugly, weak, and untalented things decided enough was enough and you couldn't handle it.

What's extra crazy is the fact that the Elvin world has everything in their pockets OTHER THAN THE HUMANS. You're telling me that we idiots rule the Earth while you lock yourselves and others away? 

An even crazier thing is that Elves view themselves above everything, even if they won't admit it at the get-go. Ogres really are pissed about it. They are CRAZY strong but also incredibly intelligent. The average elf understands nothing about Biochemistry (other than extreme exceptions such as Lady Candace) yet Ogres have things that can wipe out entire species and put Elves in endless comas. "But the Neverseen used the sedative so they understand it!"

Nuh uh.

They stole the research from the Ogre scientists. (Or made a deal with the king I honestly don't remember at this point). They NEVER would have pulled that off without them. And guess what? Ogres are a generally violent species as well but the Elves keep them around. (Albeit on a short leash). 

The humans have a similar situation. Many times in the books a human story, invention, or belief is brought up only for someone to smugly say "They get that from us", or "he was inspired by ME". I believe there was also a scene where someone talks about how human "help" organizations were terminated because the information shared with them led to dangerous inventions. Don't you guys just love it when Elves claim credit for all good ever done by humans? But as soon as a nuclear power plant or bomb is mentioned (crazy complicated crap) it's suddenly the nasty humans and their dumb, violent minds. *insert eye-roll* Which is it? Are we smart or dumb? Are WE responsible or are YOU? Ya'll can't cherry-pick. Elves also pretend that they have control over humans, yet you can't stop an invention from destroying a Japanese City and ending a devastating war that killed more Jews than the average Elf could comprehend? If humans are so terrible, THEN WHY HAVEN’T YOU STOPPED US YET? WHY DIDN'T YOU KILL US WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE? oh that's right, you're too scared.

My final thought: The fact that HUMANS are what Vespera chose to "study". Why not Ogres or Trolls? Were humans the easier target, or was there some other reason? The fact of the matter is that Humans and Elves are more similar than either of us would like to admit. Ogre's minds are too different than an Elf's. Human minds are only different in the sense of how loud they are.  In fact, that's arguably the most important difference between us. We humans are loud, we feel intensely and love like nothing Elves would understand. For we love for our short lives while they wander on for eternity. The only reason we can handle violence is because we have to fend for ourselves. Elves have protectors and little green people to do their dirty work. Humans have to live through thick and thin, slavery, war, loss, and heartbreak. When Elvin minds shatter, our minds find ways to make it through. Lose someone? We make up afterlife after afterlife and history shows different religions arising when the general public needs a way to work through their violent and tiring lives. But maybe we AREN’T so different. The characters presented as able to handle violence/are inclined to it either had to suffer violence and neglect, lived through endless years of times before the treaties and the council, or spent time with humans. Take Fitz as a prime example. Bro legit beat the shit out of Alvar and trapped him in goo to die. NOTHING IN THE BOOKS SHOWS FITZ FEELING ANY GUILT FOR THIS. Hm...seems like a very "human" thing to do.

The real reason Elves fear us is because we're just an untethered form of themselves with shorter life spans and a lot less to lose. We feel more deeply, more “violently”. As the books go on the Council itself is presented in a more kick-butt way as they finally step up to Vespera and the horrors she caused. 

That sounds a lot like The Humans of Atlantice.

#my hopes are that this will be addressed in 9.5 #please send me asks and messages and stuff if you have more to add #id love to hear it #keeper of the lost cities #kotlc #kotlc fandom #keefe sencen #kotlc fitz #fitz vacker #kotlc vespera

[vespera-neci-foland]

Remember to drink water! I can't perform my evil experiments on you if you aren't properly hydrated

#kotlc #kotlc vespera

[kale-of-the-forbidden-cities]

them

#kotlc #kotlc fanart #kotlc art #kotlc gisela #gisela sencen #kotlc vespera #vespera folend #gispera #kale's doodles

[best-female-villain-tournament]

round 3a

#polls #round 3 #round 3a #best-female-villain-tournament #vespera folend #kotlc vespera #magica de spell #ducktales #kotlc #keeper of the lost cities

[milo-igidk]

heyyy i just saw the coverr like i dont hate it honestly its fine, like not what i wouldve done but also none of the covers is what i wouldve done 😭

wanna talk abt that hoooded creepy ass figure in the bg tho bc i was like so sure that someone from the neverseen was gonna contact him like if shannon is ever gonna bring alvar back this is the time to do that so i think thats probably it uh ME personally i wanted Vespera but 😒😒

#kotlc #keeper of the lost cities #kotlc thoughts #kotlc fandom #keefe sencen #kotlc keefe #kotlc unraveled #kotlc alvar #alvar vacker #vespera folend #kotlc vespera

[worldsunlikemyown]

ancients heights headcanons?

In order of tallest to shortest:

Fallon (6'2" — ridiculously tall so his thigh-length hair is even more intimidating)

Vespera (5'11" — can wear heels but only does so to intimidate, and is honestly more intimidating if she doesn't)

Fintan (5'9" — yes he's two inches shorter than Vespera but that's just an excuse for Fintan in heels and tall hairdos)

Luzia (5'8" — also a lover of heels but it would be a safety hazard to wear ones that would put her on a height with Fallon)

Bronte (5'5" — short king and has never worn a shoe with a heel taller than half an inch <3 (lol he's still taller than me))

Bonus Fallon's wife (5'10" and she never wears heels, just like her husband)

#ahh thank you so much for the ask! #this turned into a heels hc lol #answered asks #kotlc ancients #kotlc fintan #fintan pyren #kotlc fallon #fallon vacker #kotlc luzia #luzia vacker #kotlc vespera #vespera folend #kotlc bronte #councillor bronte #kotlc #thoughts on the lost cities #fallon's wife

[lucyshypemaster]

#this isn't really accurate since they're all murderous backstabbing lunatics #but it's also accurate seeing how divided the neverseen is between these three #kotlc #keeper of the lost cities #lady gisela #fintan pyren #vespera folend #kotlc gisela #kotlc fintan #kotlc vespera

[fintan-pyren]

a finspera doodle

#kotlc #fintan pyren #kotlc vespera

[foxfire-official]

The best part about studying at Foxfire is wondering if the people with cloaks are Sophie Fosters friends or the a bunch of old people complaining about the society they created in outfits out of an emo third years sketchbook!

#fintan pyren #kotlc vespera #vespera folend #kotlc #foxfire kotlc #kotlc fandom #kotlc thoughts #lady gisela #kotlc neverseen #kotlc sophie #kotlc black swan