#little bit of character analysis at the end there i couldn't resist

[anachronistic-falsehood]

SHIP BINGO FOR THE GUYS U WANNA TALK ABOUT. CELLTW I THINK . gimme the cannibalism rundown king

MAC. looking u dead in the eyes. getting into celltw has almost convinced me to start watching hannibal i guess i just really like gay cannibalism and i need more of it. ANYWAY listen listen listennnn. ok. qcellbit and qpac are my little fucking guys alright. my favourite boys. i'm gonna give you their whole fucking backstory here ok. ok. infodump time. i apologize in advance

so cellbit was a child soldier who didn't even have a NAME. resorted to cannibalism to survive. badboyhalo was there. both stuck in a war. killed thousands of people. AWFUL TIMES!!! goes from child soldier to domestic terrorist somehow. he gets arrested and thrown in FUCKING ALCATRAZ. HE'S STILL A CANNIBAL. somehow manages to sneak a cell phone in and uses it to threaten prisoners and people start calling him cell because he literally didn't have a name before. right. ENTER PAC E MIKE. they're robbers for a living. the sillies <3 they robbed a top security museum and got caught and thrown in alcatraz. cell has gone bonkers and fucking yonkers. weird habit of licking his lips. i'm in love with him. protects pac e mike from other prisoners. they are wary of him (understandable). pac e mike make a friend named jv who tries to help them escape. cell kills him right in front of them and tries to escape himself. gets thrown in solitary. pac e mike go to the solitary cells just to mock him. lots of lowkey gay tension in that scene???? eventually pac e mike escape with the help of another friend but cell tags along because he threatens them with a gun he got from a security guard he killed. THIS MAN IS UNHINGED!!!

they end up on a deserted island. the boat they used to sail there needs repairs and four people can't fit on it at all anymore. cell decides one of them needs to die and tells the others they can decide which one has to be killed. cell is the only one who manages to find food on the island, which happens to be apples. he hoards it from the others and I SHIT YOU NOT THERE IS SOME WEIRD FUCKING RELIGIOUS IMAGERY GOING ON HERE. OK. pac seeks out cell, and CELL, WHO IS SITTING IN A TREE, OFFERS PAC AN APPLE IF HE KILLS ONE OF THE OTHERS. PAC SAYS HE'LL THINK ABOUT IT AND CELL GIVES HIM AN APPLE. I'M GOING TO EAT DRYWALL. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID THAT ON PURPOSE BUT THEY SURE FUCKIN DID IT ALRIGHT. at some point cell eats pac's leg but we have no idea when that canonically happens bc it was only canonized in qsmp and wasn't shown in Fuga Impossível where he and mike met cell, but IT'S STILL FUCKING CANON AND I LIKE TO THINK IT HAPPENED SOMEWHERE ON THAT FUCKING ISLAND. ALRIGHT. IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED IN PRISON BUT IT HAPPENING ON THE ISLAND JUST MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE 2 ME.

they trick cell and trap him, telling him to use the last bullet in his gun for himself. the three of them leave the island and hear a single gunshot. they think he's dead. SIKE!!! somehow years and years later, pac, mike, and cell, plus two others are all on the same ship together and end up on a new island. cell now goes by cellbit??? and really likes mysteries and is a pretty chill person in comparison to how he used to be??? he went through copious amounts of therapy and is actually somewhat well adjusted. he's a pretty cool guy.

he's changed. mike has changed. pac has changed. they're all so different. he and cellbit get stuck in a cave and they kiss. it's weird. they don't do it again after that. cellbit starts talking to another guy, roier. they get married. pac is disappointed but he doesn't talk about it too much. why is he disappointed? he doesn't really know. pac has changed but every time he looks at cellbit he's back in that prison. one day, everyone's furniture goes missing, including cellbit's. pac's first instinct is to grab his son by the shoulders and tell him to pack his things because when cellbit sees that someone has robbed him he will go on a rampage the likes of which no one has ever seen. that doesn't happen. cellbit snaps and demands public execution of the culprit so they can drink his blood. he's holding a knife. he's easily placated and puts the knife away. cell is clearly somewhere in there. this is the first glimpse pac has gotten of him in the five months they've been here. pac licks his lips the same way cell used to. it's a habit.

their son goes missing. the president is put on drugs by the federation. pac has lost everything. he takes the fed's medication so he can try finding a cure. he sits in cellbit's castle panicking for a solid five minutes, debating with himself over whether he should leave some of the medication for cellbit to find in hopes he can help them. he tries to find a cure on his own while still hopped up on pills. there's blood on the floor. he leaves notes for his loved ones. he knows cellbit well enough to know he will come looking and find this. the thought is as terrifying as it is relieving. cellbit develops a cure with pac's notes. cellbit yells at the president, the fellow father of their son. pac only hears cell. he takes the antidote he helped develop. cellbit guides him home and tells him he's not alone anymore and never will be again. they hug. it's terrifying. it's comforting. it's weird.

cellbit clearly left that prison behind. pac never has. he probably never will.

#whiskey yelling into the void #friend tag :3 #celltw #girl i SWEAR i did not mean to go on this tangent alright. it just Happened #little bit of character analysis at the end there i couldn't resist #i think they're neat <3 #i think they neat to have weird gay cannibal sex and it might fix them #actually no it wouldn't. it would make them worse. that being said i think they should give it a shot anyway #whiskeys word soup

[secretoreimo]

Hello I can't resist the obnoxious urge to blabber about my feelings so long analysis under the cut!? JHSDHJKJS

Okay, so. Indeed, while I understand that the game couldn't keep them blood-related for censorship reasons and such, I do think it killed the impact of them getting together a good bit.

My suspension of disbelief kind of tanked when Kirino asked Kyousuke to be her boyfriend right after he poured his heart out, expressing his insecurities that something might change between them. The game really does treat it like it's not only a non-issue but also a logical step to take, now, and I honestly have the capacity to ignore that for what I'm here for (them interacting, period), but it was definitely jarring.

I will say though, I did like that this began because they sat down to have a genuine talk about it. That felt much more organic and in-character than the nonsense we got in season 2, with the screaming in public and whatnot. And it did a lot more to stress the lengths they've changed since the beginning of the series, letting them sit down and confess to each other nervously. Well, I'd have liked if it were significantly more nervous, personally.

The thing about their relationship is it is inherently fucked up, like. It is at the center of all of their problems. Kirino has a crippling obsession with "imouto eroge" and this stemmed from the fact that, from a VERY young age, she believed herself to be a freak who had improper and disgusting feelings for her older brother, and eroge was something she latched onto as an escape from that reality. Sure, it did end up just being plain her favorite thing, but it came from that place.

I think if there's one thing I'd credit the anime for, it's that she didn't admit to her feelings ever, not until the very end when it was absolutely undeniable that they were reciprocated. She was repressed for so long I truly don't believe there'd be a reality where she'd say it first. Kyousuke has his own daddy issues, but there's something to be said regardless of a guy who is otherwise pretty normal, but finds himself falling in love with his little sister, however estranged. He's pretty fucked up, himself. Although I wish he hadn't screamed it in the center of the street at the top of his lungs in the most soulless loss for his character ever, I think the only way for them to actually move forward in a relationship would be for him to come to terms with it and say something first, however long a process that may or may not be.

I love the scenario the game poses where their relationship starts to take a "maybe I'll invite her out, just the two of us" turn, and she actually agrees instead of being flat out disgusted and disparaging. Sure, the beach was a little random and the game could have picked a better excuse than "idk why im inviting her to the beach it's almost like i got her route in a video game", but like. Idk, I like it when they interact, it feels natural for the most part. The game feels really good when you scoop out those little moments of "we're not siblings actually we're just a boy and a girl and it's natural".

Even just this scene post-confession, if I were to pretend that part had happened a different way, the banter over how they're gonna continue as a couple is pretty cute and in character.

I'm rambling about all of this not like to bitch I just have so many feelings and things I like and don't like and there are parts that I'd mix and match between anime canon and game canon and things... it's kind of fun. All in all I'd say this feels like an extremely well-written (and well-voiced) fanfiction. I'd accept these things in a fanfiction and move on, just as I'm gonna do for the game, but since it's official I get to be a freak on the internet and write paragraphs about it jhfhjsg

I am ultimately of the opinion that them being blood-related is the better story, it says more about their flaws and their personalities, and tbh I'm a sucker for characters who shouldn't be in love falling in love. Especially when they're as lovingly crafted as the characters in oreimo are. This series really is something special, I think, and it's kind of impossible to describe that to someone who hasn't seen it and just knows it for its reputation as "the anime where the brother and sister get married and kiss on the mouth at the end", which I guess is all anyone was gonna get from season 2

I rambled so long that I don't even have time to continue playing past their confession!! Now I have to go to sleep, but continue I shall soon, because... I love them...

#secretoreimo talks

[atwas-meme-ing]

Forgive and Forget

I still haven't tried for a full character analysis, but I was thinking all day about Espio, and I realized... he HAD to save the flicky.

So, Espio honestly thought he was supposed to shoot Sonic with a blowdart, right? He's a ninja and a detective. He knows how blowdarts work. Heck, he may have even used one before. Even if he hasn't, they're not hard to use. You just have to be able to hit a target. Being a ninja, Espio probably has good aim (ninjas use shuriken, for example).

So, anyway, as I mentioned in an earlier post, Espio doesn't seem very social. He's highly intellectual, but a person can't fully understand how something works if he's never experienced it. He's probably not terribly familiar with party games. So when he received instructions saying to hit Sonic with a nonlethal blowdart, he thought he was supposed to follow thru. Oh, it's a nonlethal paralytic. He'll be fine, no big deal.

And then he proceeded to use his remarkable intellect to cover his tracks. And he did a really good job- except that Tails was too clever and figured him out.

I think we can all agree that Espio took his role a bit too seriously. Even going so far as to recite [really bad] poetry at the drop of a hat. (BTW, I want to add that Espio is not the only person at the party who was guilty of taking his role too far- I will have to cover Blaze's involvement in Rouge's heist in another post.)

Judging by Espio's expression, it seems that Amy's reaction is enough to make him begin to realize that maybe he took things a little too far, although he doesn't yet understand why, he thinks it was all just a game. After all, he only shot him with a sleep-inducing paralytic, he knew Sonic would be all right.

He didn't realize what was really going on, or that no one was supposed to get hurt, until after Sonic told everyone that the train was a badnik. Espio knows nothing about party games, he was just following instructions.

Can you imagine what was running through Espio's mind at this moment? Look at his face.

It wasn't supposed to go like this. I was only supposed to pretend, I wasn't supposed to hit him. Oh, my gosh... what if that thing had lied to me? What if that hadn't been just a paralytic?

He feels so bad. He's a ninja, he a criminal detective, he was a high-ranking Resistance leader in the war against Eggman, he's disciplined and well-trained and very intelligent, he's SUPPOSED to be one of the guys that STOPS evil. And yet he was conned by one of Eggman's robots, nearly killed one of his best friends, and nearly got them all killed or at least delivered to Eggman. He feels like he's become one of the criminals that he's supposed to bring to justice.

That's probably why he's so surprised when Sonic rescues him.

Now let's look at the final boss and the rescue of the flicky.

I couldn't figure out why they kept coming back to Tails' lore card and his character's ex-partner, the flicky.

It's because- are you ready for this?-

FROM A STORY PERSPECTIVE, THE FLICKY STORY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH EITHER TAILS OR THE MYSTERY GAME. IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT ESPIO!

(Also, notice who's standing next to Tails in that picture, looking rather angry? It's Espio's detective partner and best friend, Vector.)

So when they saw the flicky powering the train:

Espio is the one who steps up and saves him.

Espio felt so bad about becoming Eggman's pawn that he felt like, maybe Sonic wouldn't want to save him. He felt like he'd betrayed everyone and he was the reason they almost all got killed. Saving this little bird was his redemption arc. He HAD to be the one to rescue the flicky, after all the trouble he'd caused.

At the end, Tails, Espio's accuser, is the one who congratulates Espio for rescuing the flicky. Amy has cooled off now that they've arrived safely and she acknowledges that Espio was just following what he thought were legitimate instructions. Sonic can't help ribbing Espio a little bit:

While Espio is able to joke a little, he still feels a little bad, even after having redeemed himself, and continues apologizing. Knowing Sonic, he probably started feeling a little uncomfortable with the continued apologies and decided it was time to let it go. "We're cool, and now that we're all safe, it was fun!" Espio is forgiven.

#murder of sonic the hedgehog #espio the chameleon #flicky #tails the fox #amy rose #sonic the hedgehog #my screencaps #my video #my analysis

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I have to scream about Lust, Caution a bit more because it's just one of those films that alters your brain chemistry for a while. Everything below the cut bc spoilers, and triggers, and this is long. (It's also not a review or analysis or anything I just had to ramble about it and now I feel better lol)

For how simple the premise of this movie is - seducing and killing the enemy - it was so complex.

Firstly, what really didn't come through the trailer I saw on imdb was how it all started. As in: this was originally no organized secret service effort but a bunch of theater kids deciding to murder a man lol And I have to acknowledge that historically speaking it is extremely common for political resistance movements to include a lot of university students. So it's great because it both makes the plot more realistic, but it also adds a level of absurdity because it becomes clear early on that these guys are very much in over their heads, and don't know what they are doing. I mean they are really talented actors. But they have no idea how to kill a man. And when they get there to actually kill someone it gets really messy. (It's also not the guy they set out to kill.)

I feel like this beginning also gave Wong a lot more agency than I expected, and I really appreciated that. Because with a lot of similar plots, the heroine often gets pushed into this plan against her will. (She is trained to be a spy, or she is the only one who can do it, etc.) Here, there is some peer pressure, of course, but she decided quite freely to get involved in it at first, and then she again made that decision a few years later. Also, in my understanding, she was the one who initiated the whole seduction bit of the plan when she wrote down her number where Yee could see it. The others in the group were clearly uncomfortable with the idea at first. (A lot more uncomfortable than with the idea of putting a bullet through a man's head.)

So you know, I liked that I felt like her own choices put her into these situations, basically.

I also found it interesting, how from the moment Wong stepped on stage, you couldn't really tell anymore when she was acting and when she wasn't. Obviously, she played different roles, but for example, in the first part, when she rushed to the phone, she looked so giddy, and it was only her friends around so there was no need to act that way, if there wasn't a little bit of honesty in that. (She also looked pretty heartbroken when she learned they were moving away. More than a failed mission warranted.)

Or when later she tells the leader of the operation that they should act soon and how Yee is hurting her... At that point, the things that happened between them were pretty consensual. Yeah, he was being a dick throughout, but at that time he wasn't intentionally being cruel anymore, I think. There was more of the risk of what ended up happening, that she would actually fall in love. But the way she warned them was also a bit of an act.

So idk I just really enjoyed the genius actress thing, and how the lines between act and reality blurred by the end of it. Because I felt like what really managed to capture Yee were the honest, playful parts of her, the parts of her that she let shine through the act.

The chemistry was obviously incredible between the two main characters, and the acting, and the way it was filmed were so beautiful. There was this constant push and pull between them. From the beginning, they were just looking at each other so intensely, that it was clear how much of an attraction there was. But then they had so much trouble reaching for each other. Yee was obviously extremely heavy-handed at first. But you could tell that sometimes even he recognized that he overstepped, and then he would try to touch her more gently, but he would be extremely clumsy about it. And then he would get frustrated and go back to violence. Meanwhile, when Wong tried to touch him more gently, he would push her away, because that just wasn't something that he was used to allowing himself. I just loved how much of this was communicated without words.

And that is exactly why I liked the sex scenes too. I read that this was made based on a book and that the book didn't have all these scenes. And that obviously the whole thing got censored to bits in mainland China and got quite a bit of pushback. (Because of the nudity and but also the political part of the ending.)

Personally, I think the sex scenes were an amazing addition, and if anyone says that intimate scenes don't add to character development or the plot then I will shove this movie in front of their face lol (No I won't bc this movie could be pretty triggering, but it's also a great example of how sex scenes can be well done and I'm passionate about that okay?)

Even the first one between them, that is SA (there is no question about that) even that one had its place. It shows who Yee is: the man who orders another one to die in the first two minutes of the movie, and someone whose job is to torture people. It also shows that he is extremely paranoid, and doesn't trust her, so he would rather hurt her and take control of the situation. Because, let's face it, she made it pretty clear that she was there to have sex with him. He didn't need to force it. He just wanted to rattle her and restrain her because... well, because he's an asshole, ruthless secret police chief. (And because there were already two other women who tried to kill him by seducing him, you know) I'm not trying to justify his actions, or anything, but what happened was pretty in line with his character.

The whole movie that far showed that he was a very dangerous man, but that scene just really cemented that he was a threat even to her.

And it also showed a lot about her. I lost my mind when afterwards she was lying on the bed and she just smiled... Like... she was not as upset about what happened as you might have expected??? And you could interpret it in a lot of ways. As a feeling of accomplishment that she did manage to do what she set out to do with her acting... Or idk, hell, to me it was clear that our girl had some daddy issues. That with her father taking her brother with him and leaving her in a warzone and everything. And you know, Yee must have been like twice her age. It also kind of went back to that conversation they were having when he told her that he saw that she wasn't afraid.

Anyways, it was also obviously shot in a way that was sexy, in the same way we can find some non-con fanfic sexy and art should be allowed to do that.

There was nothing remotely healthy about this, obviously, but it was also really complex and I liked that.

And then every other sex scene was not just beautifully shot, and not your typical missionary setup, but you could also see the character development in them. Wong discovering her sexuality, for one. Especially, if you compare any of those scenes to the one with the other student.

The other thing you could see in those scenes was how they started to trust each other more. Yee stops restraining her and lets her touch him. In some of those shots, he's just lying on the bed and letting her get all over him.

And then there is the one where she looks at his gun, and he catches her looking... And then instead of making a big deal out of it, he lets her pull the pillow over his eyes?? (And they both seem to really enjoy that one... ) That scene really spelled out everything between the lines.

The way I like to think about it is that by the end of it, they both must have known deep down who and what kind of person the other one was. He knew she wasn't honest with him. And she knew that he wouldn't hesitate to sign their death warrants. And they fall for each other anyway. She chose him over herself and all of her friends. And he was absolutely heartbroken by the end.

I loved this movie, and I loved the characters' dynamics, and I loved the acting.

#so fucked up #but so delicious #lust caution #okay I think I'm done talking about this #I just had to get that all off my chest lol #nara rambles #dead dove do not eat

[toogayfor2145]

In White Brigade, among the WBC squad, which character (sans Band Cell because he's new) do you think comes of as the strongest and which on the weakest in terms of character depth or anything memorable? I go back and forth on 2048 and 4989 on being the best. While I easily consider 1146 the weakest and most forgettable to the point the other 3 could have carried the series without him (and I mean that in the least insulting way possible because I adore 1146 too. He's just not that strong solo).

That's a very interesting question. I would say that in terms of character depth it would be 2048. He's gotten a lot of the spotlight in White Brigade so far, with a selection of rather plot-important scenes involving his interactions with Band cell. This will be a long analysis, more under the cut.

In chapter 1 - one of the very first thing he says to band cell is "Don't fall in love with me now, alright?" which in retrospect, is possibly a cheeky little nod to 2048's memory of the lost myelocyte incident - even before he's made the connection that the myelocyte back then and band cell are one and the same. He still considers himself "cool" because even a kid would "fall for his charm" so to say, despite his actual resistance to accept it at the time.

In Chapter 3, we literally start off with a glorious display of his brotherly relations with the rest of the squad. He's wrestling 4989 over a prank while 2626 jumps in to play referee and 1146 spectates disapprovingly but knows he doesn't have to, and can't stop them. It really shows the dynamic between the four of them well, although 1146 definitely proves the least "involved" here.

Chapter 5 is all about 2048, let's be real. His recount of the Lost Myelocyte Incident pulls us closer to understanding his character, especially in retrospect (later chapters not yet officially translated) is setting up a lot of focus on him. In that incident, the myelocyte clung onto him and him alone, and 2048 eventually had to give in to each request because he couldn't stand to see the myelocyte cry, or that his squad was peer pressuring him so h a r d to push him to do what's right. At the end - he's gotten pretty fond of the kid, and when he finishes his tale, you're basically given the evidence that the myelocyte and Band cell are the same person if you still didn't catch on. And it makes you think "hey, this guy's pretty important to the kid, somehow."

So he's definitely the strongest, but that is not to say that you're wrong about 4989 - there's a very important distinction to be made here. 2048 is a very strong character, but in order to be as strong as he is, he needs 4989 as his foil. 4989 is how 2048's personality traits are highlighted because of the immense contrast between 4989's casual, carefree attitude and 2048's stiff and stubborn one.

When it comes to the weakest... well. 1146, undoubtedly. He's not gotten much of the spotlight, to be fair, but in this particular spinoff he's just not able to solo carry the way he does in the main series. Even 2626 is able to outshine him in White Brigade because we see and are entertained so much more by 2626's sly underhandedness and kitchen passion than 1146's generally vanilla character. He just doesn't stand out as much aside from showing his inner edgelord a bit from time to time.

But at the end of the day, this perspective might change as more and more content is released that give even more insight on these fantastic and fierce neutrophil bois.

#hataraku saibou #cells at work #hataraku saibō #wbc #hataraku saibou manga #hataraku saibou white #cells at work white #cells at work white brigade #white blood cells at work #u2048 #u4989 #u2626 #u1146 #band cell #ask #anon