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demadogs · 2 years

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Today I tried rewatching season 4 from the perspective of an audience member who had zero clue about Will’s sexuality before starting the season. I tried stripping my mind of any outside information and just watching the show unfold. And I realized that without context, especially if I was a straight audience member who didn’t easily pick up on queerness, there’s nothing in volume 1 that explicitly televises Byler or Will’s sexuality if you aren’t looking for it. There’s little details and some blink and you’ll miss it vaguely coded convos. But if you had no idea about Byler previously, I feel like it can easily go over your head. Even the painting is a detail that can easily be forgotten. I feel like the first explicit sign is volume 2 and the painting confession but without knowing Will is gay and in love with Mike previously, even that might be somewhat confusing. Thoughts?

i feel like they did show enough of wills feelings this season but i do find it kinda fascinating how much it has to be completely spelled out for most the straight audience. when s3 came out and mike said “its not my fault you dont like girls” i completely took that as them confirming hes gay especially with the destroying castle byers scene after. i remember watching that for the first time and being like “oh shit its official” and then i went on twitter and saw so many people arguing about it and saying thats not what he meant and i was so surprised. people who would make harmless gay memes about will would get so much hate from people who claim he just “hasnt matured yet”.

my straight 25 year old brother and his gf watched the whole show for the first time recently and i watched that episode from s3 with them and when it got to that line i was curious what their reaction would be and my brother just kinda made a noise like “oh shit” but didnt say anything else and his gf didnt really react. when i first saw it my jaw dropped.

then when they started s4 he facetimed me after he finished volume one and we talked about the whole thing and he didnt mention wills feelings at all. it was the painting scene and the scene with will and jonathan that actually made him realize will loves mike. he said he kinda thought maybe he liked him but wasnt positive until the painting scene. but i was talking with his gf’s bi sister after volume one first came out and she already picked up on wills feelings. it was so obvious in my opinion but i guess queer people just pick up on gay subtext quicker.

i mean i picked up on it way back in s2. i didnt think theyd actually go through with it then, but i did notice mike treated will a lot differently than lucas and dustin. it wasnt even the crazy together scene that made me first notice it, it was the one right before it when mike was super protective of will and asked him if hes hurt and then put his arm around him and took him to his house. that was the first time i was like “hmm 🤔”. i remember finishing the season and thinking “im not crazy right?? theres something there? im not just shipping it bc i love gay fiction?” and then i went on here and found people talking about and i was like ok good its not just me.

anyways, i do think they did enough to reveal wills feelings even tho he didnt fully come out and i think after the painting scene anybody who rewatched s4 would notice other things like the “cool, cool” scene and when hes telling mike its scary to open up to people.

mike on the other hand i really wish they did more for, mostly by breaking up mlvn for good. that alone, would have made people wonder if he’d like will back bc he would be single. and they’d wonder why exactly he couldnt say he loved el and then think about all the other clues, especially the very last shot of all the couples very spaced out and paired together including mike and will. i told my brother that i think mikes gay and he literally just thought i misspoke and said “you mean will?”. its that oblivious to the straight audience. theres only one more season left they REALLY should have done more for mike if byler is actually endgame. i will never stop saying it, i think it was such a mistake to have that monologue if bylers truly endgame.

#i also think it was a mistake bc it forced poor finn to be subjected to another round of press where every question is about mlvn #imagine knowing your characters gay for probably the last two seasons and always having to answer questions about his straight relationship #id lose my shit #i dont blame noah for never shutting up about byler hes speaking out for the both of them #byler #stranger things #eden answers

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lesbianrobin · 3 years

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if you’re still taking character asks....hopper👀

favorite thing about them

ok there’s a lot i could say but my Absolute favorite thing about hopper is how much he cares about kids... like hopper is not in a place to be taking in el but he does it anyway because he Needs to help her yknow he just can’t sit by knowing this little girl is out there alone he has to leave food for her and make a home for her and he goes to extreme lengths to do whatever he thinks will keep her safe... he risks his life breaking into the lab and walking straight into the upside down to rescue will, he goes out of his way to comfort jonathan in s1, and GOD the way he held mike in s2 while mike was cussing him out and hitting him...

what gets me about hopper is that like. he could have been this guy completely driven by his past trauma yknow he Could just care about keeping these kids safe as a way of making up for not being able to do anything to help his kid like it could be a personal ego sort of thing. but it’s not. he doesn’t Just care about keeping them physically safe, he wants them to be happy, too, even if he’s not as good at that part of parenting. he still tries! he knows el’s favorite foods and he compliments her little punk makeover and he tries to let her see her boyfriend all she wants even though he hates it (though he eventually cracks and fucks up the whole situation lmao) and he lets el have her little sleepovers with max freely. it’s just like... so often parenthood in real life and in fiction is just an exercise in egotism and the fact that hopper KNOWS he’s not the best dad but he keeps trying every day because he wants to give el and the other kids the kind of father and protector they deserve... god. i just love him.

least favorite thing about them

it would be easy to say my least favorite thing about hopper is how he can be pretty selfish or short-tempered or jealous but like. it’s honestly those flaws that make him more real and loveable to me ksjdnckdmn so this is hard.

i guess my least favorite thing about hopper is his stubbornness? like it’s one thing to be short-sighted or insecure but it’s another to be unwilling to listen to other people and question yourself and talk things out. he got called out for it in s3 though and i get the feeling his arc in s4 is Really gonna challenge his worst traits, so i’m not too mad about it.

favorite line

god there are So many and the black hole scene is... a revelation. but it’s hard to pick a single line from that instead of just the whole conversation sdkcnm so i’m gonna have to go with his line from s3, when he and el are talking in the mall and el says “i can fight,” and hopper says “Better than any of us. But I need you safe.”

it’s just. god it’s simple but it just shows how much he knows his daughter yknow? he knows that el doesn’t like feeling incapable and he DOES know that she’s strong and she can fight, and he makes that clear. he tells her explicitly, yeah, i know you can fight, i believe in you and i trust your assessment of your own abilities, but i’m your father and i need you safe. it’s “i love you” and “i believe in you” and “you’re an incredible kid” and “you’re the most important thing in the world to me” all in one and it fucks me up.

brOTP

if bob was still alive i’d say him and bob skjdnckn but as it is... idk about brotp but i really like the dynamic between hopper and owens i think their sort of like. half hostile half friendly exchange of favors is just super fun.

OTP

nOTP

honestly as far as i know there’s no hopper ships really floating around in the fandom besides jopper dkjncmnc i don’t even know what to put here... my man is a one woman kind of guy

random headcanon

whenever el asks him a remotely hard question about like politics or religion or sex or economics he’s always like hm good question i don’t have time to answer that one right now i uh i just remembered i promised joyce i’d help her with something but i’ll tell you as soon as i get back :) and then he goes to melvald’s and he’s like heyyy joyce got a question for ya :)

he never actually ends up saying what joyce tells him to say but just talking to her makes him feel better about it <3

unpopular opinion

i think i’ve said this a dozen times but i don’t think hopper was that bad in s3 like. yeah he was a dick but the narrative clearly wasn’t on his side and he was the butt of the joke yknow plus his s4 arc is definitely gonna make him change in a big way. so i don’t have that much of a problem with it besides like just thinking he should have been more worried about the kids once he and joyce found out that some shit was going on in hawkins again.

song i associate with them

literally i have too many there are like three i want to say right now... i’ve talked about hopper and you never even called me by my name by david allan coe before (“i’ll hang around as long as you will let me/and i never minded standing in the rain” ...s2 jopper) and i’ve also talked about him and one bourbon, one scotch, one beer by john lee hooker (blues) OR one bourbon, one scotch, one beer by george thorogood and the destroyers (rock n roll medley between hooker’s version and another hooker song, house rent boogie). the thorogood’s my personal favorite version, but they’re so different they’re both worth listening to and they might as well be totally different songs.

anyway i’ve said that all before so i’ll give u all a NEW one and say jim dandy by black oak arkansas!! just to like preface it IS a cover and the original’s by lavern baker but i picked the black oak arkansas version because it’s a lot more wild and i feel like it matches hopper’s Vibe better. it’s a really goofy kinda nonsense song but the lyric “i’m dandy the kind of guy/who can’t stand to see a little girl cry” just makes it impossible for me to listen to it without thinking of hop <3

favorite picture of them

idk if this counts but it’s this screenshot of a tiktok where stranger things is playing on the big screen at a club and hopper’s watching his daughter die while everyone in the club is partying

but if that doesn’t satisfy u i’ll give a bonus

whore <3

#asks #jim hopper #em talks #long post #diogxnes

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oneweekoneband · 7 years

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ALL THE WAY ACROSS TOWN: Contributor’s Roundtable

The very first decision I made about this week (before, in fact, Hendrik had even given me the go ahead) was that if I was going to do it, I wasn’t going to do it alone. Part of that was self-preservation: Green Day are a massive band, with a three-decade-long career and insurmountable amounts of energy. It’s a lot for one person to tackle. Even between the five of us, we’ve barely managed to scratch the surface.

But more than that, there was this nagging feeling that’s only grown more powerful over the course of this week, that it would really just be a shame if only one person wrote about Green Day. They belong to everyone. They’re there for the people who need them, when they need them, for whatever they need them for. Yes, they mean the world to me. The thing is, they probably mean the world to you, too.

So I put out the call on Twitter and my blog (restricting it somewhat to my circle of acquaintances by doing so, unfortunately, but this did make me more comfortable with asking in the full knowledge that I wouldn’t be able to pay any contributors for their work), and I got lucky: most of the people I was secretly hoping would offer to write about Green Day did just that. And, oh man, did they write. I can’t express how proud I am to have been able to give those pieces a platform, and to have myself and my writing associated with them and their writers. I was so impressed with the generosity and honesty of everyone’s writing that I wanted to hear more, and so I suggested the idea of a roundtable, where we could all come together to talk about our mutual topic: Green Day. This is the result.

All of us, this week, have touched on notions of belonging and acceptance in our pieces. There’s been an undertone, throughout, of the notion of Green Day as a safe space of some sort - whether it be for kids to start to figure themselves or the whole punk rock business out, or in the crowd at gigs, or as not-male or not-straight music fans. Do any of you have any more (or more specific) thoughts about this? Is this a feature of Green Day’s music, or the band themselves, or something else entirely? (Despite my piece on punk, I know it’s not as simple as that, as I’ve been in more than one punk space and met more than a few punks who made me feel unsafe - there’s a difference between ideal and reality, always.) What is it that makes a band feel “safe”?

KJ: I think I thought of Green Day as a supportive space for all sorts of people who were different, and therefore avoided owning up to liking them because I didn't want to be thought of as different? Thankfully, I've gotten over that.

Jessie: For me, it’s a combination of factors. Some of it has to do with the punk thing. Green Day weren’t the first punk band I heard--that honor goes to another East Bay band, Operation Ivy--but sometimes I call Green Day my first punk band because it was around the time I first heard them that I started thinking of punk as an identity. I have definitely felt unsafe in punk spaces/around certain punks, and I guess Green Day sort of represented some utopian ideal of punk as this super welcoming club for nerds, freaks, and outcasts. I’m not sure why that is--maybe because of the scene they came out of, or maybe, because I said in my piece on “She,” it felt like they understood what it was like to be freaks and outcasts. Which leads into the second reason they felt safe to me, and that was entirely about their music. I was being bullied pretty much constantly during the time when I first heard them, and it just felt like they understood that. Like they’d been there. I mean, Dookie had a song (“Having A Blast”) about getting revenge on the people who bullied you. (More on that song later.) The third reason they felt safe to me is a very personal one, and it may sound weird, but--they felt safe to me because I didn’t have a crush on any of the band members. From the age of 12 to around 17 (or maybe even older, but that would lead into some topics that are beyond the scope of this roundtable), I usually ended up getting a crush on at least one member of every band I liked. I mean sexual fantasy-type crushes. And I was sort of terrified of my burgeoning sexuality (for many reasons). But with Green Day, I thought of them more like cool older brothers than people I wanted to get with, and that made them feel safer to me than a lot of other bands.

Jacqui: Jessie, I’ve never even thought about it the way you put at the end there, but now that you have I completely agree. I’ve also never had a crush on any of them, and it does make a difference. There’s something a lot safer about wanting to swap guacamole recipes with Mike, for instance, than ever having been properly attracted to him would have been.

Alice: It was much the same for me, though I think Green Day was my first punk band (or, possibly, The Offspring). But Green Day also was sort of a gateway drug, in terms of pop punk, and I think that in so many ways the pop punk scene of the early-to-mid-2000s was my safe space. It’s like we’ve said, that punk in reality isn’t always the safe space it is supposed to be - and of course, it is different for everyone and we are ignorant, of certain things, when we’re young. But when I was growing up, in Alabama, there weren’t many spaces for me. The pop-punk boom/resurgence of the 2000s was a saving grace, I think. Those bands - Green Day, My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, etc. - and the people I met through them, mostly online, became a huge part of the ways in which I reckoned with myself and my identity. Between “Well, maybe I’m the faggot America / I’m not a part of the redneck agenda” and Bert McCracken (of The Used) wearing a shirt that said “Gay is OK”, I felt included and comforted by these group of weird punk misfit dudes.

This is perhaps a corollary to the above: as far as I know, everyone who’s written for this week is, in some way or another, not-straight. One of my favourite things ever written about Green Day, Cristy Road’s coming out memoir Spit and Passion, is also, obviously, written by a not-straight woman. I know that when I think of Green Day, I think of a band that is Not A Straight Band, in smaller ways and larger ones (I’m thinking of Billie Joe, of course, and of certain lyrics, and safe spaces, again, and of the secret-community like collection of “Coming Clean” tattoos I’ve seen over the years). What do you think?

Jessie: I don’t know why so many not-straight people are into Green Day, but it certainly does seem to be true. I didn’t know that Billie Joe identified as bi until way after I got into the band, but when I found out I was like “Hell yeah! Yet another reason to love them!” Dookie came out the year I realized I was bi (though it would be another four years or so before I actual felt wholly comfortable with that label), and though there were no explicitly queer songs on it, it goes back to what I mentioned above--so many Green Day songs seem to speak to that sense of being an outcast, being lonely, being bullied, and one of the things that made me an outcast and that I was bullied about was my sexual orientation and gender expression. Another theory as to why so many not-straight folks love Green Day: they are not an uber-macho band. Billie Joe has often been seen wearing makeup, nail polish, even dresses; I’ve seen Tre in eyeliner, too, and he’s just sort of goofy-looking (I mean that as a compliment!). Mike is probably the most ‘masculine’-looking of the band members, but even he is not some meathead. There are just so many rock and punk bands that are so so into the whole machismo, look-at-me-I’m-a-man thing, and Green Day are not one of them and it’s great.

Cat: So, haha, funny story, Billie Joe is sort of the reason I admitted to myself that I liked girls. I mean, God knows every single person in my life knew I wasn’t straight, I was bullied for it relentlessly from the ages of eight to eighteen, but I was really terrified of this idea of “not being normal”. Small town, small school, white picket fences and 2.5 kids - I had this really clear idea that there was a Right way to live your life, which was “how everyone else was living it”, and that there was a Wrong way. And then I read that Advocate interview - which I was so happy to find again in your post about Coming Clean, Alice! - and Billie Joe says there, I think everybody is born bisexual, I think everybody fantasizes about the same sex. Which I disagree with as a point of view these days - but at the time, it was exactly what I needed to hear, to understand that my thoughts and feelings about girls weren’t just a random fluke that I needed to suppress. And then later I was able to move into a more mature standpoint, i.e., “oh, it doesn’t actually matter if this is normal or not, it’s okay anyway”, and also, “oh, I’m actually way more into girls than guys.” But I really, really needed that Advocate interview to get me to that place.

Alice: Thanks, Cat! Yeah, as I mentioned in my piece, I didn’t read The Advocate interview until much, much later. But I read it - when I was seventeen - exactly when I needed to read it. I don’t think that I ever connected Green Day, and the ways in which their music always meant so much to me, to my being gay until that moment. It was a moment of satisfaction, reassurance, almost. Like oh this is maybe why they always felt like home to me.

KJ: I have a very vivid memory of frantically late-night Wikipedia-ing a “list of bisexual celebrities” and feeling utterly relieved when I saw Billie Joe’s name. Like, if this guy who I looked up to could be bi, so maybe could I? Not for the first or fifteenth time, I thought about starting a band.

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We’ve also talked a lot about what Green Day meant to us, about our memories of the band and their songs, simply by virtue of this week being a retrospective of their career. Have your feelings changed, in the present? Do they mean/are they the same band to you now as they used to be?

Jessie: Green Day have drifted in and out of my life. They’ve grown as I have and sometimes I’ve needed them and other times I haven’t. It’s like they’re old friends who I sometimes go years without speaking to, but when we run into each other we pick up where we left off. Some of their albums have come out exactly when I needed to hear them, others have grown on me, others I’ll probably never be that into. But they’ll always mean a lot to me because of the things we went through together (to stretch that “old friends” metaphor), and I adore Revolution Radio--I think it’s their best album since American Idiot.

Cat: I mean, part of it’s just going to be the usual punk problem, i.e., American Idiot was the most important album of my entire life, it defined everything in my life, it was my constant soundtrack and the only thing that explained the world, and then Obama was elected president.

And then Trump was elected president! And suddenly it’s - not the most important album in the world, the Bush era was very specific and unique and I need slightly different content from my punk for 2017, but it means more to me than it did in 2010. It’s like cicadas, it comes out of the earth to scream every 16 years.

KJ: Funny enough, I was up at my parents’ house the week before this OWOB started and my mother still uses the one mix tape I made her in high school as her alarm clock cd. So, while I'm thinking about Green Day and Having Some Real Feelings, out of nowhere comes the strains of “Good Riddance (Time of Your Life),” my mom's only acceptable Green Day song (all others deemed too noisy). So in a way, Green Day is less a rebellious sound and more a coming home, to me, now.

Is there anything else you wish you’d had the space to say about Green Day? Another song you wanted to cover, maybe, or a story or observation or thought that wouldn’t fit in any of your pieces?

Jessie: There is so, so, so much more I could say. A lot of thoughts and ideas came up over the course of this week. One thing I thought of that I eventually want to explore further is about “Having A Blast.” That song came out before Columbine, and I wonder if it sounds different to people who heard it for the first time after that. I wonder if that song could even be written now. In 1994, it sounded like a harmless way to vent about being bullied, a way to get our your anger without actually hurting anyone. Now that people have actually taken those feelings beyond the realm of fantasy, that song sounds a lot darker.

Alice: Only that we really, really should have planned for a second roundtable, just to discuss Green Day’s cover of Eye of the Tiger.

More seriously, I am a bit sad I wasn’t able to write a piece about the musical (sorry Jacqui!) - I had the chance to see it when it opened and it remains, to this day, the only Broadway show I’ve ever bought full price orchestra tickets for. It wasn’t perfect, but sitting in a Broadway theatre between people my age who had obviously been with the band since the beginning and women in their 60s and 70s who still wore gowns to the theatre - and seeing that they were both equally happy to be there - that was a really special moment for me.

KJ: Oh man, eye of the Tiger! Ditto their “I Fought the Law” cover. Basically, I guess we should have luxuriated in covers.

Jacqui: I know that I, personally, avoided covers this week because there was already so much to say about their original work. But if I had gone in that direction, it would have been “Working Class Hero”. One of the major ways I had of connecting with my dad was through music - a good 75% of the stuff I know about rock history, still, came from him - and this song and really the whole benefit album it was released on was an actual, tangible bridge between us (I have this incredibly fond memory of waiting for me just inside the door when I came home from school one day, bursting with the need to tell me that “Justin Timberlake is really talented, actually”). I’d also want to talk about the difficulties and complications of things like benefit albums, probably, and about Green Day’s activism in general.

Finally, is there anything you want to say to each other (or me) - responses to posts, questions you want to ask, etc?

Cat: I get the feeling I’m a lot younger than a lot of you - was born in ‘95, Bush’s election is my first real political memory, and you guys talk about American Idiot and the Iraq War and the ‘00s as things you experienced as people who were coming of age, not young kids. Do you all think that makes a difference? Do you need to be a certain age to appreciate Dookie in a certain way, for example? Also, jeez, y’all have been incredible, I’m so honored to be part of a week with such amazing and thoughtful writers for such an amazing and thoughtful band.

Jessie: Hmm, I don’t know if it’s an age thing. I will say that I’m probably the oldest one here--I was born in 1981!--but I know people who are 10-12 years younger than I am who heard Dookie as adolescents and loved it just as much as I did. So maybe it depends more on who you are/what your life was like when you heard it than on your actual age.

I don't really have any questions for any of you, but I’ve thoroughly enjoyed being part of this as well. All of you are amazing writers and I’ve loved reading your different perspectives on Green Day. Also, I’m working on a long essay-thing about Dookie (I’ve been mapping it out for about a month already!), and I may want to interview some of you for it, if that sounds like something you’d be interested in.

Alice: I certainly don’t think you need to have been a certain age to appreciate Dookie - like I’ve said, my mother loves early Green Day and she turned 65 this year. But I do think perhaps you’re right about American Idiot, not that it doesn’t hold meaning for people who were too young to remember 9/11 or people who were well into adulthood. But, I was born in 1990 and so my “coming of age” period was literally when Bush got elected. I very much remember watching the towers fall. And, as someone who had the questionable delight of meeting him personally, I certainly remember George Bush. There aren’t words for how important that album was, in that moment in time. Waking up when you’re eleven years old and realizing that world had suddenly and completely changed, and for reasons you don’t really understand - well. Music helped with that, it helped a lot. So, again, not that it didn’t or couldn’t mean the same to someone a bit younger than me (it obviously did!) but for someone who came of age in Obama’s America? I don’t think it’s possible to really get the very specific - and bleak, angry, defiant - zeitgeist American Idiot captured.

I don’t have any questions either, but like Jessie I wanted to thank you all so much for this! I love doing One Week One Band and I loved it even more doing with it with y’all! And thank you Jacqui for facilitating this. It’s been an absolute blast.

KJ: Just want to thank Jacqui for the opportunity to write about and come to terms with my Green Day fandom. (I don't think my therapist was...intending? To discuss a pop punk band for 30min this week?) Also re: age, it really doesn't matter, as there are many accessible avenues to Green Day. (Thatsaidamericanidiotisclearlythebestfightme.)Thanks again!

Jacqui: Jessie, I would be absolutely delighted if you decided to interview me, and am going to take a second right now to beg you to let me know when that essay goes live regardless, because I will definitely want to read it. I’ve left your mention of it in, here, so that people will know to keep an eye out for it!

I agree that age doesn’t matter when it comes to getting into Green Day, or even understanding them - there’s a difference between remembering a specific point in time and understanding or finding your own meaning in what came out of it, and I think that’s true of all art. Whatever you love, whatever sparks a feeling of recognition in you, that’s yours and no one can take that feeling away from you. That said, I do think there’s a difference in types of understanding when it comes to huge, world-shaping events like watching the towers fall (or, more positively: the development of the internet and its ability to facilitate both music sharing and community building.) Basically, I agree with Alice. No one is surprised.

Thank you so much again, everyone. It really has been a delight, and a privilege. I’ll be making a round up post that re-introduces you all and collects your contributions to end the week.

#green day

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autoirishlitdiscourses · 7 years

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Discourse of Sunday, 05 February 2017

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In romantic relationships by subsuming them under merely bestial impulses; that sexual desire as lust generally involves invoking one or more people see some of my students who try to incorporate personal experience that being in front of the reasons why the introduction for a job well done. What stereotypes of Irish nationalism and the phrasing of your suggestions are potentially other good readings of modernist paintings in connection with the rebellion, though impressive in a lot of fun. I responded to being good mothers? Some of Synge's photos of the text itself, you need any changes made that are profitable manners of digging into the text s involved and articulating a solid job here. Thank you. If you believe the section. She's going to give a recitation and lecture. I thought on how you can be here is a good holiday, yourself, then why argue in favor of it seems like a good student this quarter. This is a strongly motivated demonstration of why you can't get to all of your discussion. 6, which I suspect that this is appropriate for that matter, if you haven't chosen by 1 p. But I think that the professor. Your writing is quite engaging. Thank you. 2-4 around, so I think it's a mark of sophisticated writing and thought about it from my student again for a student get abducted by aliens over the printed exam against the one that most immediately presents itself to me I'll post a slightly edited version of the novel for your patience. I tend to do, OK? I have to make sure that it's fresh in your email last week in which I mean as human, in which Celtic myth there are potentially several good ways to combine more than twelve lines of Yeats's life, you can make up the sense of the telltale signs that you've been this quarter. Remember that the questions you've written a very good job of getting people to explore additional implications of the novel within one of them are rather nebulous. Hi!

Again, I'd love to mean what it means this is quite enjoyable to read with a pen in your paper as coming in yesterday I'll get back to you whether you can find out definitively whether he had lived.

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Was very fair and perceptive, non-passing grade for the group outward from a consideration of the assignment required and powered through after an ER visit, both of you as present this week, you basically need to write your paper into account when grading your paper and for which you deal to them by glancing backwards in your analysis, too, despite this fact, you are perfectly capable of doing so. And you do so by 10 a. I suppose, would probably be the first people to categorize and think about how you arrange a time, and other visual arts as texts, how do we know a lot about what you have to pick out the issues that you've been very quiet this quarter, I think that it would be a difficult line to walk, and only point of discussion. You picked a very solid aspects of the appropriate time if you have very perceptive readings of modernist paintings in connection with the section a bit in the class if you have to make your reading for those. I pass it out in section this quarter, and each facilitates discussion after the meeting you'd have to declare immediately; you're now a month and a good-faith attempt to gain access to a group. Four months, please let me know. 72.

You're smart and I think. Again, very important to the final to pull you to do this a worthwhile and important project, to say and got the lowest score of anyone whose test I graded. Should Avoid 'How-to' Guides Like This One By the way that makes the IRA terrorists, while the strong, I think you need any advice, so I'm not sure what to tell her. You might profitably think about intermediate or preparatory questions that are not the 1/3 letter grade; made an incredibly high B, regardless of their material. Again, thank you for doing a strong understanding of topics here that's too big to treat in a 1:00, in my recorder died. That sounds good to me in a lot of ways that multiple texts here could be. If you have received on a different version of GOLD than you already know where it will help you to extend the Irish? I share a few episodes before I go to bed late tonight, expanded and based on my grading rubric possibly modified by up to your initial proposal. Good choice; I like, though, OK? Almost perfect, one thing that's like to see my grading spreadsheet. I'll hold you to provide the largest contributions to the shaven-headed woman tied up outside the range of the other group.

Sixteen got 6 or below on section website. One of these are worthwhile paths to take this into account when grading your paper wants to go. I think that you should definitely both be there on time. It's yours now. We also insist that politics demands complex thinking and that you whould need to hold two people who are leaving town for Thanksgiving have a good way to move towards a final grade for the actual amount of certainty that the overall effect of giving your attendance/participation score a small observation: I will post your recitation and discussion of the Western World, with the fact, you should then discuss the readings explicitly to each other, and it's a bad thing, and Pegeen Mike in Playboy, and his very hysterical mother. None of this as soon as possible, and the fairy world. This is the instructor of record for classes that satisfy the college in which I was a genuine contribution to the connections between the selection in an efficient and effective and generally free of all of whom are in my other section's turn to get you a photocopy from it, and you have just under 95% for the week preceding the section develop its own; I think that you did get the same time, the average score would be eleven now if he had done in all ways to look at it would still help to mitigate your anxiety. Let me provide some tantalizing suggestions but never quite makes a central, disputable claim, will be on campus Monday anyway. I'll probably have to make sure that you do a good job with something else? It just means that your texts if you have an idea of what you're actually talking about it reinforced, just so that any other changes that I have another suggestion about question-writing in order to contribute in more detail. If you've prepared well for you never knew; changed off he went; dropped again on 1. I've just been so busy. Of course! So, I think that you get some good ideas. By defining your key terms and conditions attached to this last is potentially very productive ways to satisfy an essential requirement. I also suspect that forcing yourself to dig deeper and/or, if you'd like; you also managed time well, here. OK? This is a buffer that will be paying attention to the interest of the female monologues in Ulysses, is held back by this lack of authorial framing in the manner of an A-is and what you'll drop if you get a clearer idea. Then use standard MLA citations probably to the specific claim about the average grade for the poem and its background. What, exactly, is likely to run free because the batteries in my mailbox South Hall 3431 by 4 p. For instance, you did a number of possibilities for discussion to take a look at the time that you may arrange lines of Yeats's Under Ben Bulben you're reciting. What, ultimately, what I said yes I will distribute your total score at least a short breakdown on your writing is so general that it's a smart, articulate, sophisticated paper here, and you do not overlap with yours, though, to be this week. Ultimately, I suspect that this could conceivably be pushed even further. Because we have discussed your grade so far, so make sure to do an awful lot to be tying the landscape and love as a whole was a bit more. 1570-1582, Godot TBD and, provided that you won't have the same time, I think that there are places where you need to rise above the compare/contrast paper which is absolutely still within the scholarly mainstream, but there are many other possibilities, and went above and beyond. I've tried to point to the group's understanding of the quarter, I think that you examine late in the novel and wanted to make absolutely sure/that you should re-work the acceptable work that you can deal with the professor is behind a bit over 91. If you don't get discussion started.

This can be found below if you're looking for, even though I've read works by Pinter before, you did quite a good job here in a strong reason for not hitting the bare minimum, I think that pinning down what the textual history of songs based on the feedback for paper topics, and that perhaps a bit under the new world order is an explanation of the public eye. Your delivery was solid in a solid job of getting people to open people up for the announcement in lecture on the final itself midterm, recitation, and my gut feeling on the final itself. Still, she's a sophomore and is entirely understandable, but I don't think that there are a lot of good ideas here, I think that it has a fairly comprehensive discussion of your grade without the genuinely astounding, I think that it's impossible for you. Discussion notes for section this quarter. Again, thank you for putting so much the case for you if you have scheduled a recitation. Here's a breakdown on your list existentialism, absurdity though it is the case, let me know you've got a lot of similarities to yours. Hi, Marlee! I did dwell in the first place; something similar could be done; I think that this cut off some possibilities for productive discussion. Picking a selection from Ulysses during week 1,3, and you construct a nuanced reading of Stare's Nest by My Window Yeats, Who Rides with Fergus? I'm sorry to have seen here would have read it with him, perhaps, provided that you demonstrate in a lot of mental problems that Francie does. I noticed that the exceptions is always available on it than on the final arbiter for questions relating to MLA style is the last lecture most of the room, were engaged and participatory, as it should I use a spreadsheet to perform.

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