#mary FitzRoy-howard

[fideidefenswhore]

Married to Mary Howard, Richmond would effectively be assimilated into Anne's family and his threat neutralised. That Anne managed to persuade the King to allow his son to be betrothed to Mary Howard, without any kind of dowry payment, shows how strong her influence was at this time.

Henry VIII’s Last Victim: The Life and Times of Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey, Jessie Childs

#henry fitzroy #anne boleyn #mary howard #mary fitzroy #jessie childs

[acrossthealternateuniverse]

PART 3: PRINCE EDWARD, DUKE OF YORK

AU: All of Henry VIII’s and Catherine of Aragon’s children survive to adulthood. [Part 1 // 2 // 4 // 5 // 6] (requested by anonymous)

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#au #tudor au #henry viii #catherine of aragon #katherine of aragon #request #mary howard #mary fitzroy

[boleynqueenes]

"At this rather intimate gathering (intimate enough that the attendance would render the Great Hall hollow…not that there was ever much chance of the King hosting there, the chamber which is visible and accessible from the King and Queen's watching chambers, but here, here said Queen cannot enter without kingly permission), he watches the mingling lead into dance whilst sipping water, the only water safe to drink of this isle, far as he knows (the same, ferried from Rosamund's Spring in Woodstock, for it is certain the King wishes the newly arrived cardinal to believe there is nothing Rome has that excels anything available in England—although of course there is), splashed with just enough cold, crisp ale to flavor."

—Nowe Thus: Chapter 12

#apparently when i know for eight months what the last line of a chapter is going to be it becomes insanely long #things i am learning about myself... #im like. dropping hints. that im like. reading books #(god bless the floor plan layouts in thurley's books for all these blendable settings) #these tumblr updates....what is this text wagywrfeuh #anyway i couldn't decide a favorite quote. i don't think that's one. but it's very informative #while not being spoilery on its own #oh. i keep switching btwn mary howard and fitzroy. OH WELL #another fix. eff

[altairtalisman]

List Of Info On Mary Fitzroy-Howard

Mary’s Reference

#Sixtended Verse #Six OC #Mary Fitzroy-Howard (Sixtended)

[historicconfessions]

#henry howard #mary fitzroy #tudor confessions

[cinemaocd]

Wolf Hall casting info: who is new and who is returning...

So we have more detailed casting info and an imdb page for The Mirror and the Light.

Mark, Damian, Jonathan Pryce, Thomas Brodie Sangster, Lillit Lesser, and Kate Phillips are all returning for MATL.

Different actors for the following parts:

Norfolk, will now be played by Timothy Spall Lady Pole, will now be played by Harriet Walter Stephen Gardiner: Alex Jennings Lady Jane Rochford: Lydia Leonard Gregory Cromwell: Charlie Rowe Call Me: Harry Melling Richard Riche: Tom Mothersdale Lady Shelton: Lucy Russell Eustache Chapuys: Karim Kadjar Edward Seymour: Will Tudor Hans Holbein: Thomas Arnold

New characters (click through to imdb to see the actors):

Bess Oughtred, CHRIStOPHE Mary Fitzroy, Martin the Gaoler, Lady Margaret Douglas, Nan Seymour, JENNEKE, Thomas Howard the Lesser, Geoffrey Pole, Thomas Avery, Lady Margaret Seymour, DOROTHEA, Olisleger, Catherine Howard, Anne of Cleves and

*airhorns"

Thomas Wyatt (will be played Amir El-Masry)

#timothy spall #harriet walter #Wolf Hall Series 2 #The Mirror and the Light #Hilary Mantel #I am in my feelings about some of the acting changes but I'm so excited for Christophe and Thomas Wyatt I don't care #and also looks like some more diverse/inclusive casting so that's great #we love to see it #alex Jennings

[isabelleneville]

The fact we are getting Mary Howard/Fitzroy, Duchess of Richmond, and Lady Margaret Douglas daughter of Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland in Wolf Hall season two I am losing my mind. Fingers crossed for Elizabeth Seymour/Cromwell.

#wolf hall #mary fizroy #margaret douglas

[mariedemedicis]

In random asks -you travel back in time to Tudor England circa say 1520. Assuming for this that no changes to the timeline will be bad and also you can and will get home - what do you change?

ooh, what a great ask!

I’m definitely going to the Field of the Cloth of Gold to have a good time!

But on the fixing things side, I’d push Thomas Seymour out of a moving carriage in a…tragic, tragic accident.

I would try to convince Catherine to step aside graciously instead of fighting Henry because I know it’ll go better for her that way, however, I don’t know how successful I’d be.

I’d try to figure out happy well-suited matches for both Jane Seymour (specifically before 1535/6 for Jane) and Mary Boleyn. (Maybe Mary marries James Butler like Anne was initially meant to? Sorry Edward but I want to keep Jane alive and away from Henry!)

Tragic accident for Thomas More too. (Please stop burning people.)

Hmm, maybe I figure out a way to get Henry to believe in some sort of prophecy concerning his and Anne’s bloodline bringing about a second coming of King Arthur or something similar to prevent him from getting rid of her.

I’d get Kathryn Howard placed with her cousin Mary Howard and they can grow up together and be close and Kathryn is certainly safer there!

Anne of Cleves I think I can leave her to her own devices so long as I change things in England.

Katherine Parr is obviously not marrying Thomas Seymour. Maybe she can stay a widow and just get a chance to breath and raise her stepdaughter?

Charles Brandon can die when Mary Tudor did, let’s swap their deaths somehow.

I also want to prevent Henry Fitzroy’s death.

Prevent Henry’s jousting accident!!! <- not to blame it for all of his later choices but I can’t see that not helping at least a little

Convince Thomas Cromwell that it’s in his best interest to work with the Boleyns.

I would try to save Madeleine de Valois too! Maybe her boat gets blown off course and she has to recuperate in Italy for a while so she gets stronger.

I know there’s a bunch of people I haven’t touched on but hopefully that would be enough to create a happy/happier future for many!

#asks #answers #mihrsuri

[lareinamaria]

@fitzrxyal, dover castle

Of the siblings Mary had known, Henry Fitzroy had been closest to her in age. The two of them leading strangely parallel lives, with his more at the periphery in some respects. He had been a boy, a fact her father had taken such pride in, but not one blessed with a legitimate birth. Not that it mattered, in Henry VIII's court. She had eventually found herself at the periphery too, and thus felt a certain understanding of Fitzroy - the sting of bastardy leaving its mark on them both, albeit in different ways.

She had some curiosity regarding his daughter, her niece. Though they shared blood, Mary knew that the girl had been raised under the shadow of the Howard family, the climbers who had risen to power by clinging to Anne Boleyn's skirts. What, then, would Elinor Fitzroy be? It was a question that Mary, admittedly, thought little of upon her return to England, other issues preoccupying her. Yet, it seemed poised to be answered, the young woman now standing before her.

"Lady Fitzroy, I am delighted that you have accompanied His Majesty. Tell me truly, do you find his court to be much like King Henry's? I ask only because you seem to me an honest woman. And an astute one, at that. Your eye is watchful."

#fitzrxyal. #a rose with thorns.

[realcatalina]

Lady in purple-part 4: Doubts

I made mistake. Both 1509 and 1533 Tudor sumptuary laws specifically say that only people allowed to wear silk of the colour purple were the King, the Queen, King’s Mother, King’s children, King’s brothers and sisters, and King’s uncles and aunts.

(Aunts/Unlces likely mean only those related to him by blood. Thus by his aunts it means York Princess andArthur Plantagenet, bastard son of Edward IV.)

But what i failed to realise is that of course King’s natural son would be allowed to wear purple...and thus his wife also!

The sumpturary law doesn’t specifically mention female spouses most of the time, because everybody knew they share rank with their husband.

I had one extra woman to rule out! -Mary Howard, Dowager Duchess of Richmond!

Katherine Howard or Mary Howard?-nightmare, because cousins are likely to look alike!

However, due to King’s insistance marriage between Mary Howard and Henry FitzRoy was not consumated. And per this reasoning King didn’t grant her most of what she’d normally get as widow...it is then unlikely that she’d be allowed to wear purple after FitzRoy died. 

(Because it’d be sign she was married in every sense to Fitzroy. So unlikely Henry VIII would be ok with her wearing purple.)

Thus unless you show me period record stating she wore purple after Fitzroy died, I will presume she was not allowed.

So panic over.

Katherine Howard is still most likely to be the lady in purple, I just forgot to exclude one more person, which I should have excluded initially.

I hope you enjoyed it and I didn’t scare you too much. 

PS: There would probably be be one more woman allowed to wear purple and I didn’t mention her before-Lady Honour Grenville, Viscountess Lisle, wife of Arthur Plantagenet, illegimate son of Edward IV.

But that doesn’t fit timewise, because in 1540-1542 he was imprisoned in Tower under suspicion of treason and his wife was under house arrest in Calais at same time. She then possibly snapped and never recovered. So very unlikely she was sitting for portrait by Holbein during that time.

#tudor portraits #Tudor History

[fideidefenswhore]

Mary Howard, Surrey’s sister and Fitzroy’s widow, fell under a cloud for her role in concealing Margaret Douglas’s affair. She struggled to obtain her jointure and was forced to sell her jewels. She narrowly survived Norfolk’s and Surrey’s arrests and brought up her dead brother’s children herself, employing John Foxe as their tutor. She never remarried, even though her father tried to betroth her to Thomas Seymour, the younger of Jane’s brothers.

Hunting the Falcon, Julia Fox & John Guy

#best girl #mary howard #mary fitzroy #julia fox #john guy

[fitzrxyal]

penned by wren for @bloodydayshq

HISTORY: 

name: elinor mary fitzroy

age / d.o.b.: twenty three / 16th may 1536

status / rank: lady richmond

country of origin: england

place of birth: durham house, london

birth order: only child

mother & father: henry fitzroy, duke of richmond and somerset ✝ & lady mary howard ✝

siblings: n/a

sexuality: homosexual

horoscope: taurus

virtues: creative, loyal, amiable

vices: proud, stubborn, impatient

marital status: unmarried

issue: none

religion: anglican

allies: percys, boleyns, the crown

adversaries: -tba

TIMELINE:

1519 - henry fitzroy born to henry viii and elizabeth blount

1525 - henry fitzroy elevated to duke of richmond and somerset

1533 - henry fitzroy married to mary howard, marriage initially unconsumated

1536 - elinor fitzroy born, henry fitzroy dies from consumption, elinor made ward of the crown

1530s-1540s - devonshire manuscripts compilied in part by mary howard, elinor developes love of poetry

1557 - elinor's wardship transferred to the seymours, mary howard dies

BIOGRAPHY:

elinor fitzroy had lived on unstable ground since before she could remember. her father had died at seventeen when she was only two months old, leaving her a ward of the crown, with a grand enough inheritance that half of england wanted to get their hands on it. so she learned to play the right parts: blushing maid, dutiful granddaughter, coy heiress, all the while dancing away from the hands of men that would seek to manipulate her money and connections for their own means.

and throughout it all, there was her mother.

mary howard taught her daughter the love of langauge and the use of her own brains. she taught her daughter the value of her own self, and the joys of independance. elinor adored her mother, and mourned her deeply.

now twenty three, elinor sits at the crossroads of political turmoil and refuses to let it sway her. she makes friends where she wishes, and writes her poems, and holds her head high. she will be mistress of her own destiny, and god help anyone who stands in her way.

#bd.intro #elinor fitzroy // intro

[thunyielding]

the unyieldling bodement , princess elizabeth of england , daughter of anne boleyn

penned by velvet. for bloodydayshq

BULLETPOINTS: 

name: elizabeth tudor age/dob: twenty five / 5th may 1534 status/rank: princess of england country of origin: england place of birth: the palace of placentia, england birth order: she is her father’s fourth child, her mother’s second - her brother edward being only a few months younger than her mother & father: queen anne boleyn & king henry tudor viii ✟ siblings: duke henry fitzroy of richmond ✟ (illegitimate), queen mary of spain, king william iii of england, edward seymour (illegitimate, unknown) sexuality: bisexual horoscope: taurus  virtues: earnest, alleviating, enlightened vices: opinionated, impulsive, domineering marital status: n/a issue: n/a alliance(s): king william iii, the reformation, the boleyn family adversaries: the seymour family, strict anti-reformist courtiers, spain

TIMELINE:

1534 — Born in Palace of Placentia to Anne Boleyn, named after her grandmothers Elizabeth of York & Lady Elizabeth Howard, her godparents were Thomas Cranmer, Henry Courtenay, Elizabeth Strafford & Margaret Wotton 1536 — Moved to Hatfield House for her safety & education after the death of Katherine of Aragon, her mother suffers a stillborn son and Jane Seymour gives birth to a son, Edward 1537 — Edward, Thomas & Jane Seymour are beheaded to secure the rumours around William & Elizabeth’s legitimacy 1538 — Mary Tudor returns to court and marries Philip of Spain, leaving England 1439 — Her first summer is spent at Hever Castle 1545 — A warrant for the arrest of Anne Boleyn is signed, but her death is only just dodged. Elizabeth remains at Hatfield House, but by the end of the year begins to travel to Greenwich Palace and Hampton Court on occasion to see her parents 1557 — King Henry VIII dies, followed by William (her older brother) as the next King of England, Elizabeth moves to court to join her brother’s coronation and present herself as no longer daughter but sister 1559 — Anne Boleyn marries Thomas Wyatt, Elizabeth joins court again to attend the wedding

BIOGRAPHY:

The chroniclers of Henry’s Tudor Court would describe the birth of Elizabeth Tudor for years to come - mostly, her beginning was an enigma; a mythology of its own. Seymour Loyalists would whisper that she had been born from the low-hanging fruit of the Percy household due to her mother’s swindling ways. Others would declare that she had been conceived well before the private marriage between the King and his adored subject, Anne Boleyn. Others, coated in sugar by the royal household, would bear the new Princess as a holy comet sent to signal a new dawn and age upon the English royal throne. 

But beneath each and every whisper comes a slither of truth. She had arrived fighting, her lungs heavy with breath as she took her first screams. Coated in her mother’s blood with the feral instinct of Tudor burning within her eyes, Elizabeth was heralded as the King’s legitimate and most beloved daughter - and in time, as Henry Tudor would insist, a son would follow. 

Separated soon after to be fed by a wet nurse, Elizabeth barely knew her parents as a bairn. Surely, she was visited now and again but to an infant they were but strangers who’d sometimes bring new toys or would influence her household to bow and curtsey with deep admiration. No, she didn’t know them as any other normal child would’ve - but then, Elizabeth wasn’t normal. She never would be. With fire shimmering atop her crown, she was prepared to enlist herself into a lifetime offered for England’s future. As her parents brought forth a new playmate, Elizabeth was taught to give way and stand aside for the baby who was now heralded as the one and true heir of the English Kingdom that had once been ruled by giants - descendents of Troy, or so her nanny would whisper. 

As a girl, Elizabeth grew fiery. In some other lifetime where she had lost a mother and her gilded title, she would’ve been forced to become modest and coy - her own father would’ve named Elizabeth as a bastard after all, tarnishing her to become something quite hidden within the shadows till the ever-loving touch of a stepmother who thought each of Henry Tudor’s children were deserving of a place in their father’s heart. But in this timeline? She had been bolstered by her blossoming relationship with her mother and father, often claimed as Princess of Hearts and future Queen of some far away land (even if Mary had been promised to the King of Spain, it did not mean that Elizabeth would not carry a crown - her governess would insist). She prepared with eagerness, studying attentively - learning foreign tongues and histories, indulging herself in horse riding, poetry and philosophy. 

Though celebrated as a daughter of England, Elizabeth was kept from the haunted gloom of court and instead was held within Hatfield House, where she grew from girl to woman - flourishing in her father’s colours as she took to dancing at balls and hosting elaborate feast days and plays. Styled as the Golden Princess, she would cast a wide net to entertain friends and courtiers, often mistaking true friendship and confidants with people who’d whisper behind sugared palms - this would ultimately lead to another sort of mythology to cloud Elizabeth’s public persona. The forever growing Seymour Loyalists and Anne Boleyn’s enemies would often say that her parties grew thick with the devil’s pleasure - that she bore a witch’s mark upon her navel and danced with unmarried men without a chaperone present. Others would say that her entertainment was heavenly, marked with laughter and prayer. Some wouldn’t care to repeat what they saw or heard. Certainly, the truth cannot be known, but Elizabeth’s reputation was soon taken over by the death of her larger than life father, the King. 

Henry Tudor died by a wishbone - choking till his skin turned purple, grey then a bloated whitish-yellow. Elizabeth, who had been walking the gardens before retiring to her chambers, was alerted by a messenger who had been sent by her mother and brother - or should that be mended to read, King William III. No longer a daughter, but presently a sister, Elizabeth moved from Hatfield to London for both the coronation and to reinstate herself as a woman. Hands clasped, she swore to protect her brother and agreed (hesitantly) to marry if such a union would strengthen William’s reign. Now a sister to the King, and the prize pawn to be sold at market, Elizabeth strains against the rules set upon her - and burns with the Boleyn might that nearly every Englishman has grown to fear. 

Now at court, her toes inching closer to the doomed centre of the Tudor court, Elizabeth must protect herself and her family - what with the ghost of war growing louder with each day that passes. No longer a girl of soft fat and small curled fists, Elizabeth’s reputation is at stake. A maiden of pure white linen and an overflowing cup, the Princess bides her time and holds back any type of suitor in the hope to remain a feared Tudor.

[cavernfullofexistentialdread]

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CATHRINES IN EUROPEAN HISTORY??? CATHRINE OF ARAGON, KATHRINE HOWARD, CATHRINE PARR, CATHRINE OF VALOR, CATHRINE THE GREAT. AND THE HENRYS TOO. HENRY MANNOX, HENRY DUKE OF CORNWALL, HENRY FITZROY, TALL; LARGE; HENRAT THE VIII, AND THE 7 OTHER HENRYS BEFORE HIM. LIKE WTF WHY ARE THE NAMES SO REPETITIVE??? THERE WERE HOW MANY MARYS???? WHAT ABOUT THE JOHNS???? 2 ANNAS THAT BOTH CHANGED THEIR NAMES TO ANNE???? JANE SEYMOUR AND LADY JANE GREY??? ENGLAND GET UR CRAP TOGETHER WHAT

#LIKE BRO- #REALLY #AND CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE FACE SHAPES??? #WHY WERE THERE 8 HENRYS #SO. MANY. MARYS. #LIKE THE SIX FANDOM HAD TO MAKE NICKNAMES FOR EACH CATHRINE AND MARY

[historicconfessions]

#mary howard #mary fitzroy #margaret douglas #tudor confessions

[blogger360ncislarules]

A few more returns and more than two dozen (!) new bits of casting have been announced for the second/final season of Wolf Hall.

https://tvline.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/harriet-walker.jpg

This Monday morning, it was announced that Thomas Brodie-Sangster also will return, reprising his role as Rafe Sadler. Other returns include Joss Porter as Richard Cromwell, James Larkin as Master Treasurer Fitzwilliam, Richard Dillane as the Duke of Suffolk, Will Keen as Archbishop Cranmer and Hannah Steele as Mary Shelton.

The slew of new castings, meanwhile, are led by Harriet Walter (Killing Eve, Succession) and Timothy Spall (Mr Turner), who will respectively play Lady Margaret Pole and the Duke of Norfolk.

You also have Corentin Fila (Mortel) as Christophe, Tom Mothersdale (Culprits) as Richard Riche, Karim Kadjar as Eustache Chapuys, Lucy Russell (A Spy Among Friends) as Lady Anne Shelton, Will Tudor (Industry) as Edward Seymour, Viola Prettejohn (The Nevers) as Mary Fitzroy, Thomas Arnold (A Spy Among Friends) as Hans Holbein, Jordan Kouamé (Malpractice) as Martin The Gaoler and Agnes O’Casey (Dangerous Liaisons) as Lady Margaret Douglas.

Other new castings include Cecilia Appiah (Hijack) as Nan Seymour, Ellie de Lange (Arcadia) as Jenneke, Hubert Burton (ITV’s Jekyll and Hyde) as Thomas Howard the Lesser, Pip Carter (Industry) as Sir Geoffrey Pole, Josef Altin (Game of Thrones) as Thomas Avery, Sarah Priddy as Lady Margery Seymour and Hannah Khalique-Brown (The Undeclared War) as Dorothea.

And last but presumably not least, there’s Amir El-Masry (Industry) as Thomas Wyatt, German Segal (The Undeclared War) as Olisleger, Summer Richards as Catherine Howard and Dana Herfurth (Love Addicts) as Anne of Cleves.

Wolf Hall: The Mirror and the Light is currently filming in England and Wales.

#wolf hall #pbs