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[booasaur]

"I don’t see this writers missing out on a chance to go for maximum drama with Ellen having to support homophobic policies."- you are correct, Ellen will be supporting homophobic policies. I just hope by the end of S3 she realizes she's made a huge mistake, comes out to live her life outside of the GOP.

Hmm, you sent this before ep 2 aired so do you know this for a fact or were you speculating? I mean, it seems to be borne out by ep 2 once it did air, and yeah, looks like it's gonna be an ugly journey ahead.

And another anon:

I won't give away any spoilers but Ellen and Larry in 302 is just nauseous. Her arc is just terrible with 2 scenes each at 2 minutes or so. I'm more disappointed than I was going into the season - had low expectations going in.

And another anon:

Did you watch the new ep of for all mankind??

A warning: I get quite negative below about the show For All Mankind so avoid if you're a fan.

Yep, I did watch, and...I'm just. It's so funny to me that media like FK and TBH and BSC and WN and Crush will be dismissed practically sight unseen, actual quality aside, because of their target audience, but something like s3 of this show is being critically praised and considered true prestige.

First. Danny and Karen? Are they kidding me? I don't even know what to say about that or why anybody would think it's compelling storytelling. I'm not one to deny actual quality when it's there, I thought the first season was great, I can watch people do unlikable things and still think the show is good, that's not my issue. But this is just all so soapy and twisting everything, character and plot, to service the melodrama and gimmicky alt history plots they've thought of. I said in my answer about Love, Victor that I could understand making choices that serve the fiction, but that's a show about high school love, this is a show deliberately trying to play out the reality that would unfold if just one historical event changed. So little of this is what would actually happen even with the set of characters they created in s1, it's just, "wouldn't it be cool if we did this?", which is the worst way to write.

I want to continue stating my unhappiness with whatever's going on with Ed/Molly/Dani. Are they trying to say that as much as we like Ed and Molly, people naturally turn conservative in their older age and Ed and Molly are unknowingly being pretty racist in how they're going about this? Or white people are just always capable of it? Because Ed was openly racist and sexist right there and I just don't believe Molly would think Ed's the best candidate to this degree, yeah, he's a "cowboy" like her, but why would you want that in a very long-term mission, especially when he's already 60? Yeah, Molly, let's remember the fond good old days of the agency you two signed up for, when the version Ed signed up for kicked you out for being a woman. Increasingly, the weight and history of past events and characterizations we literally saw in front of us seem to matter less and it's about what the current season requires.

Are we even supposed to dislike Ed for his comments, given the show went and rewarded him with the Helios mission? And in literally looking up the spelling of Helios right now, I found this article where Joel Kinnaman discusses Ed's thought process and there's no mention of how what he said was completely beyond decency, how it's just a friendship that goes through rough patches and it's actually him who feels betrayed. We don't even need to look back at the show's treatment of race to know Dani's going to yet again get the short end of the stick narratively, look how after that conversation between Ed and Dani where she's the one who heard something so hurtful, it's Ed the show decided to stay with and be all sympathetic about. Shows can have bad things happen, they can have people do bad things, they don't have to correct it or call it out, even, including something isn't agreeing with it. But you can't ignore it entirely???? In and outside the show? And what you choose to focus on and how you tell that story says a lot! Who gets the agency, who gets the screentime, who gets the sympathy.

And then of course: Ellen. To even get to the point of discussing her and Larry having a kid, I'd have to understand why they're doing this political storyline and I do not! Why go to all this trouble? Is it to change the country for better? In which case she joined the GOP?? Will ally with a GOP hardliner?? Presumably had sex with Larry to have a kid for her image? I can only hope it was artificial insemination or adoption but given past history, I don't expect the show to care about that or the message it's conveying.

But if she's joining politics for Mars, WHY??? They're literally showing Helios right now as a private aeronautics company and had Ellen's background being perfect for it, why not have her do that? Because it would just be more dramatic, right, for the closeted lesbian to be a Republican politician? Not even a Democrat. No, no, let's have her possibly be campaigning on anti-gay stuff. Isn't that just delicious? As I said: the "wouldn't it be cool" style of storytelling.

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[booasaur]

If you enjoyed First Kill I think you might enjoy The Girl In The Woods as well. It has a similar premise of queer teens hunting monsters although it focuses primary on friendship and found family while the romance is more low key

I have watched TGITW but I think what makes First Kill so especially unique, at least to me, is that the f/f is between the two lead characters. I like that central romance! I was actually a bit disappointed that the f/f kiss teased in the TGITW trailer was between the two leads but that it was just a kind of experimental one-off and the romances were between them and entirely different characters. In the f/f one's case, the love interest had comparatively very little screentime.

i don't want to put down friendship but the bulk of teen shows already focus on that and increasingly, throughout the CW (though, oof, given recent events), Freeform, Netflix, HBO Max, Prime, etc, teen shows are beginning to include more and more queer characters in central roles.

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[booasaur]

so happy to find someone excited for First Kill! i kinda love the cast so far i hope netflix does them well

I can't say I know much about the other lead but yeah, I've seen Imani in a few things by now and the support cast looks excellent.

And lol, people SHOULD be excited, how many mainstream lead/lead f/f shows do we get? Including the one that just imploded, the number's not high! And I mean lead/lead, not lead/main, like we've gotten a few more of recently. Though of course I hope people don't put all their expectations and previous frustrations on what this one is and isn't. :o

And another anon:

i wonder if imani lewis is 🏳️‍🌈 or just catering to her fans

I've wondered if she is queer too but the phrasing for that second part is not one I'd ever use. Whatever you take away from the pics is on you and the show doesn't even have a trailer or release date yet, lol, the idea that she's going to choose to style herself for fans who in some months will start perusing her IG is hilarious.

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