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Some Dynamics and Character Lore From GGZ
Given the title, this won't cover everything, especially the dynamics that are present for GGZ-only characters, but I thought I'd make a post for Hi3 characters that are present in GGZ for those of you who like to draw fanart/write fanfiction. As well as the fact that I like talking about GGZ.
Fair warning: this is going to be long, I have a bad habit of going into too much detail on things like this, so please bear with me.
For this post in particular, I was going to focus on multiple characters but this ended up being so long I relegated to it just being about Kiana and Mei, and more specifically two versions of them. I might make a follow up post for Bronya/Seele/Sin at another time.
Trigger warning for attempted suicide below. I feel like I should include this just in case.
Short introduction but that's all I have to say before diving into the material.
Kiana/Mei
It shouldn't really be a surprise that Kiana's greatest dynamic is with Mei and only Mei. The two are a lot more blatant with their feelings and relationship in GGZ. However, their relationship is also more tumultuous than in Hi3. They are a good example of doomed yuri, besides the ending to the Reborn storyline, which is bittersweet at the least and good at the most.
The writing of GGZ carries the same theme as Honkai 3rd, fighting against the fate of the world and for all that's beautiful. GGZ tends to explore the darker aspects to this setting, often times mixing in heavier themes while doubling down on the struggles of the characters. At times, it can be almost over the top, but I think its cohesive and still a finely crafted story.
It should come as no shocker that Kiamei is the primary ship of GGZ, it's outright confirmed that they love each other at points throughout the story. Sometimes it is for lesbian bait, but on the whole I think their writing is good and the way they rely on each other for support is nice.
Kiana and Mei are more grounded in GGZ, if I had to word it. They're still incredibly resilient, but there are times where they crack mentally. It happens to Kiana more than it does to Mei (save for the last arc, where it's all about Mei suffering), but seeing them work through these things does deepen the bond they have.
Now with all that said, let's move on to the actual content of this post.
Retrospective
Retro is the story you play when you first start the game, this is the "first half" of GGZ's story in some regard. GGZ's story and setting is divided into separate eras, with the main two being Retrospective and Reborn. Era Zero, taking place before both of them, was never fully completed unfortunately.
In Retro, Kiana and Mei initially start off on the wrong foot. Mei is sort of hostile towards Kiana (a result of her becoming a Herrscher) and Kiana is a bit insensitive to Mei on introduction, but after learning about Mei's past, Kiana manages to get through to Mei after their battle and the two make up.
Will put it out there that much like Kiana in the Hi3 mangas and early Hi3 story, she's a perv here. Yet her crush on Mei is a genuine thing.
Things calm down for a while, but when Bronya enters the picture and Mei begins to dote on her like a big sister, Kiana gets a little...possessive, and jealous. She's quite immature when it comes to romance in Retro. And while Mei is more serene about things she does care for Kiana too.
The two have their own unresolved matters, however. For Kiana, it's finding her dad who went missing when she was young (note: Kiana in GGZ is not a clone like in Hi3, this is the real and original Kiana Kaslana). And for Mei, it's regarding Ryoma's sentencing and his ties to Anti-Entropy. The two bring it up at points and reassure each other that they will find their dads which is sweet.
Things take a turn for the worse when Cocolia attacks St. Freya with the Moonlight Throne battleship. When the ship crashes into the church where the furnace containing the core of the second Herrscher is (yeah they stored Sirin's core there), Kiana somewhat fuses with the core and has a complete mental breakdown when Cocolia reveals the truth about Siegfried and how Kiana murdered him when she accidentally became a Herrscher while young.
This causes Kiana to become a Herrscher due to the rising amounts of Honkai energy in her body. If you're wondering about Cocolia, she dies by heading into the Honkai furnace and gets swallowed up by all the Honkai.
Kiana kills everyone after becoming the Herrscher of Finality (or Herrscher of The End, Final Herrscher etc), and the last person she kills is Mei.
It's a sad scene through and through, and the CGs are great. Even more so because at the end, when Kiana and Mei are floating above the world, Kiana still cries while the world ends.
See you in the next world originates from this scene. Very good piece of music.
So what happens after? The world ends, Mei and everyone die, but what happens to Kiana?
Kiana became a puppet for the Honkai, even after the initial catastrophe that occurred at St. Freya, small groups of people managed to survive the world-wide Honkai eruption. But they too would be wiped out by Kiana.
She didn't move, she didn't think anymore, and she had no emotion. Only when the Honkai needed her to kill whatever remnants of civilization rose up did she move.
This carried on for hundreds of years, or tens of thousands, but by the end Kiana had killed all of humanity.
And then she regained her consciousness and was faced with the reality of how many she had killed and how much blood she had spilled. To save herself from the suffering she tried to end her life, but because she was a Herrscher, she was immortal.
No one could kill Kiana, not even Kiana herself. When Kiana realized this fact she gave up all resistance. She deluded her mind with memories of the past and paralyzed herself on the spear she had impaled herself with, until the day Honkai disappeared from the world.
Quite the terrible end. I won't be covering Reborn in this post, but I thought it would be cool to write about the Fire Moth DLC side story, since their relationship in that story builds off of Retro.
Fire Moth
To understand Kiana and Mei's relationship in Fire Moth, you first need an understanding of the setting. The events of Fire Moth happen during Reborn's story, during the story chapters as a matter of fact.
But Fire Moth itself technically takes place in a stigma space where the world has turned desolate five years after Kiana became a Herrscher and destroyed everything. It should be noted that this is the world contained in the stigma space, so the setting of the story is not taking place in the real world. The backstories and characters are acting upon how they were in Retro (and were materialized by Kyuushou's memories of them).
This is Kyuushou's stigmata space, and she has the stigmata of both Kiana and Mei from Retro. Hence why this world bears so much familiarity to Retro.
Most life on the surface is dead, and the survivors in Nagazora have banded together to form the organization "Fire Moth", or "Moth Who Chases The Flame", under the leadership of an older Bronya.
Houraiji Kyuushou is the protagonist of Fire Moth, and you play through the story as her amnesiac self. Kiana is still the Final Herrscher, and rather than a being who is carrying out the Honkai's will endlessly, or someone who still has enough emotion and humanity to cry, this Kiana has gone deep into nihilism and has become devoid of most emotion.
This is a Kiana who knows what happened thousands of years ago and guilt has eaten away at her and left her with nothing.
CG of Kiana when Kyuushou first meets her in a dream.
To get a good idea of what Kiana and Mei are going through in Fire Moth, how about this short conversation I machine-translated. Might be inaccurate, I don't know Chinese that well! But hopefully it helps. Some of it has been taken from Guns Girl Z Cutscene Interpreter as well, I translated some of the text that was still in Chinese.
(Mei's text is purple, and Kiana's is blue).
Mei…what would you do if the world didn't fall apart?
If it hadn't collapsed...
I would probably have been like an ordinary girl, studying something I like, enrolling in a university I wished to go to, and then starting my own family, and walking through a happy and uneventful life with the person I love.
Kiana, what about you?
For me…as long as I'm with Mei, I'm already satisfied.
Really…don't say such embarrassing things...If it's Kiana then there must be something more worthy of pursuing.
If it's the old me…I do have hundreds of wishes I want to fulfill...
I wanted to attend the same school as Mei, eat our bento together under a cherry blossom tree, and spend our entire lunch break lazily.
I want to travel around the world with Mei, take pictures of us in beautiful landscapes, and keep our figures in a precious photo album forever.
I want to build a small cabin by the sea with Mei, watch the tide rise and fall together, collect seashells on the sand blown by the sea breeze together, and then fall asleep under the embrace of the moonlight.
There are so many more wishes…well there are so many more plans too..
But now…
I just want to stay by your side quietly like this forever.
Mei...please give me your hand.
Yes...
If it's possible, will you stay with me until the end of the world?
Kiana…thank you.
Thank you for loving me so much. For protecting me so much.
But both of us, no, we all, we all understand.
That this is a long-cherished wish that simply cannot be fulfilled.
Because...because all of it...has been destroyed by your hands.
Every promise has been turned into ash... and we can never go back.
I'm so sorry Kiana...I'm so sorry.
It's time for us to say our farewells...
(Kiana alone with Mei's ribbon).
...
I understand.
In fact, I understand it better than anyone.
This is the mistake I made...I've destroyed our future with my own hands.
Such an ending is the best punishment for me.
Alone in a world without you. Even death is too kind for me.
(There's a little bit more to this scene, but it's not relevant to this post).
During the final battle between Kiana and Mei (they're both in the same nihilistic and existential boat here, so naturally they are the two overarching antagonists), when Mei falls in battle, Kiana bids her farewell and calls Mei her "only regret".
At the end of Fire Moth, Kyuushou manages to reignite Kiana's wish from forty-two thousand years ago, which was to bring hope to the world. What Kiana was chasing all this time was a sliver of hope in a world that gave her none.
Kiana relinquishes her existence after their battle, so she along with Mei disappear from the world entirely. No one remembers them and nobody recognizes their names. Kyuushou remarks that Kiana's dream was to live in a world without Honkai, a sentiment echoed by both Kiana and Mei.
Fun fact: if you 100% all of Fire Moth, you get this wonderful CG of the two.
Conclusion
If you made it this far, thanks. I'm a bit out of my element when writing things like this, so if you have any questions on anything I'd be happy to answer them. I appreciate GGZ a lot, so making this was fun and I hope I can do more of it for the others.
I have a nagging feeling this was a bit too long, so I apologize for that. I ended up explaining a lot of GGZ's lore when this was mainly supposed to be about relationship dynamics...oops.
But to summarize, Kiana and Mei's relationship isn't entirely different from what they have in Hi3, but just like in Hi3 they have their own struggles and nuances. Mostly in the formed of doomed yuri but that's beside the point. I like their relationship in GGZ, at times its as simple as a few exchanges before a battle, and at others its the crux of the story itself.
With all that being said, I hope you enjoyed the read!!
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Let me preface this with I’m totally in favour that everyone ships what they want to ship. If I dislike something I’ll just blacklist it. No one should feel pushed away from any ship they like. And if you ship my most beloved character with my most hated character, the only one that feels bad about it is me and it is my responsibility to get out of that way. I do love some weird and strange ships and reading a rare pair often has changed my perception of whole franchises.
But here on my blog I can’t help but feel sad about some ships. Sometimes there are ships that circumvent what I perceive as perfect canon-couples. And if these ships then become more popular than the canon one, which I love, I ask myself why that is.
It was the case with Yennefer and Geralt in the Witcher. I love those two and I like that they have a complicated relationship that is so multi-faceted. I love that Yennefer is anything but the girl that is totally head over heals in love with Geralt. - Fandom though prefers Geralt with Jaskier - which would be totally fine by me if it would be a rare pair, but then people are so passionate about shoving aside female characters...
Same with Vampyr (a videogame), where you have an awkward, but kind of cute relationship between two adult vampires that are usually totally professional, but act like total teenagers in love around each other. It is cute, romantic, and a bit of awkward, which makes it even better. Yet if you look for fanfictions they are all for the doctor-vampire protagonist and a vampire hunter. I get it. It is the enemy to lover trope, which I love. I actually fell in love with some of the fanfictions. Yet I can’t help but feel sad that once again a totally nice female character is pushed aside for that. Why is it always the woman that are pushed aside? (Don’t answer that.)
Now with the Old Guard it happened again and it kind of stings, because it was so unexpected. A canon gay relationship between two amazing and kind men, that are the ultimate enemies to lovers trope. This couple is more perfect than any fanfiction could imagine. There is absolutely no way that fandom can ruin this ship. This is the biggest battleship to ever sail. It is bullet proof and unsinkable. Nothing ever could attack them. There might be a bunch of sloops with rarer pairings for them, but hey, that’s fine. - It takes just a few days and whenever I read fanfics I have to fear that I accidently stumbled upon one, where people are not fine with them as they are and add Booker (Booker out of all characters!) or make them promiscuous as hell with strings of lovers. Why? Why is the perfect couple not enough???
To end on another note though: Thank you all writers for all your fanfictions. You are the reason I hardly ever read books anymore. I spent so much time in the worlds you created and kudos and comments was the only praise I could give you! Even if you write a pairing that I said I dislike, please, go on. Please, continue. You bring a lot of joy to everyone!
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GIVE ME ALL 100
Omg.
Okay I got this.
1. More milk than cereal.
2. Not really, since it gets really windy here and it’s just biting cold slap at my face.
3.Usually, the first thing on my right that isn’t food.
4. I don’t drink tea unless sick but I take my coffee with a ton of milk and sugar.
5. Yes, I hate my smile. My cheeks left to high up and I look weird.
6. Nah, I do have a garden at my house but it’s my mom’s. I’m allergic to them to be able to keep them.
7. Large.
8. Mixed between writing and gifs. But mostly writing.
9. All the time. All day every day.
10. Depends, on my mood. I tend to twist and turn between all three.
11. Me and my friends gave each other stripper names and go by them sometimes in public. People's faces man.
12. I got to say cilantro. I love how it tastes and how it smells.
13. My dad screamed this morning cause he didn’t know I was home and was singing and dancing in the living room when I silently showed up.
14. A mess. The flat would be no higher than the second floor and I wouldn’t be able to remember the color of the carpet due to all the trash I have lying around.
15. Neutron stars can spin at a rate of 600 rotations per second. Whoooooo! So fast
16. Ravioli!
17. I always wanted to dye it a dark blue color or rainbow.
18. This one time, a couple was making out in front of my buddy’s locker and she needed to get her books for class but they wouldn’t move. I elbow them apart while chanting “This is Sparta!”
19. I do keep a journal and it’s a mix of fanfiction, ideas for short stories and my ranting space.
20. gray (cough Ace cough)
21. I don’t have a bag like that. I always lose bags.
22. No. Night owl all the way.
23. I write or surf the web. Maybe watch a movie or two.
24. Yes my friend Bri.
25. I’ve never broken into anywhere.
26. My black boots that are long but not to the knees. Like half way to the knees.
27. Watermelon.
28. Sunsets. I like to take pictures of them.
29. One of my friend snorts when laughing too hard and I die each time.
30. Scared for my life? No. Scared I can’t sleep for three days? Yes.
31. Me and socks have a love hate relationship. I don’t like wearing them around the house or to bed but I will if it’s crazy cold.
32. Ha. You make it sound like me and my friends do anything besides watching stupid movies or play cards against humanity at three in the morning.
33. cake. Anything cake.
34. I had this cow, that was the typical dairy one but kind of sock monkey like so I carried it everywhere. I don’t have it anymore, it was torn up by my dog.
35. I love pens! I can spend like three hours in an office supply store looking at pens. And yes I do, I write in multiple colors of ink. My favorite is my brown one.
36. Intocable. It’s so comfortable sounding. I love it.
37. A bit of both. Some days I live in trash others I have to dust and vacuum the walls. It depends on how my week is going honestly.
38. I hate it when someone flickers their fingernails. The sound of the nail is horrible. I also hate crowded places. Can’t stand it.
39. black or white.
40. I have this glass heart neckless that I got the first time I went to Disney land. It means a lot to me because my older brother bought it to help calm me down since I was freaking out about the lines and a ride that scared me.
41. Tiger’s cures. That series made me so happy. I re-read it often.
42. No not really. Don’t really drink coffee.
43. My mom. The stars are pretty here since we don’t live near a city and most nights are clear.
44. Um...it’s been a while. I honestly can’t remember.
45. No. My instincts are as good as Zoro’s sense of direction.
46. There is no such thing as “the worst pun” so have the best one. “I was wondering why that baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.” I love puns but this one is my favorite.
47. Mayonnaises. hate the smell and it burns my throat.
48. needles and yes still is.
49. Nope don’t really buy them. The last one was a Linken Park CD about five or so years ago.
50. I collect blow up glass art!
51. I can’t associate a song with real people but for characters? Yes. Ace is “there is no way out” from brother bear.
52. Dude, I’m so bad with memes. I can’t tell when they are in style.
53. no. no. yes. and no. I didn't care for the one I did see.
54. My mom :(
55. I scratched both of my siblings while screaming like I was possessed. They said that they would take my phone away to rid me of my demons. I counteracted.
56. I really think it’s endearing when someone is hopeful shy. Or when they smile down at the ground or just seem happy but quite happy.
57. Didn’t really react. Just hear it.
58. whine mom is bri, vodka aunt is Karla.
59. La llorona. Don’t know why I get scared each time but I love hearing it.
60. No. Poetry and I are not friends.
61. I gave my brother a pair of socks with a sticky note “Cold feet” once. Tis a pun on his date and the socks. He gave me a fully wrapped box that was almost as big as my chest that was empty besides a little note that read “A box of disappointment.”
62. Yes and it’s either grape or apple.
63. I kind of leave them be but only in one area. They are not to be moved from that one part of my room.
64. It’s light blue
65. Yes my friend bri. She moved away and I miss being able to just call her up and say “Meet me at the mall dude.”
66. One that is roses.
67. sleepy and lazy. I kinda like those days.
68. It can be either really cold, never ending snow or “Are we in summer or spring?” “ dude, it’s winter.” “whaaa?” there is no in between
69. I love the game of life, battleship and mouse trap.
70. no. And I never will.
71. yerba buena often refers to Mentha citrata, a true mint sometimes called "bergamot mint" (I don’t know the english name so I looked it up. But it’s yerba buena that is my favorite.)
72. Yes I am, but I forget to note stuff down so...
73. Procrastinating. Daydreaming. Zoning out. Skipping meals. Not sleeping.
74. They are kind and worry about you whenever they are away. They check up on you by sending you texts or random pics. They pack extra everything because they know you’ll forget but they don’t mind. They are the mom friend and you always feel better when talking to them.
75. I got a dog named Lilly and a bunch of fish. I named one Yuki and the other Sombra. I have lost track of which one is which since they had babies.
76. yup cleaning.
77. Neither. Hate lemonade.
78. I’m in “mehclub”
79. One of my friends said a “thank you for being in my life” speech at my graduation party. It was so cute and I was a sobbing mess.
80. My room is white with a yellow ceiling. Yes, I did and the reason was that I wasn’t to paint a yellow tree around the edges of my walls but...never actually did it.
81. chocolate cake with sprinkles.
82. I’ve been on the honor roll for three years but this semester kicked my ass. So I fell to a B average.
83. I don’t really have none.
84. Nope too scared to but I think they are awesome. Would love a rose or something.
85. I used to read batman and night wing ones. But haven’t in a long time. Mostly I read tumblr one. Like Kid n’ teenagers.
86. Again don’t really have none.
87. Accepted, Sinbad, Master of Disguise and Spirated away.
88. Don’t know if its a “movement” but I like blow up glass art or some tattoos.
89. Close to my mom. Dad is so and so even though I act just like him.
90. Don’t really have one. I don’t like crowds and cities have crowds.
91. Nowhere I got no cash. I’ll be lucky to be able to leave my house.
92. I drown it. I don’t let it see the light of day after the cheese is in my hand.
93. I cut my hair so I wouldn’t have to style it past brushing. So, short hair?
94. My big brother!
95. Clean, sleep, read, write, visit family.
96. I always press the “remind me later button” My computer had been needing an update for about three months now.
97. INFP, Slytherin and Scropio
98. About a year ago, with the family. Yes and no since it was really pretty but I was having a hard time breathing.
99. I will not bow. I need a hero. And it’s over, isn’t it?
100. 5 years future. I want to see if she has her shit together. Besides, I already know the past, no fun that way.
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