#theoddest1

[chaifootsteps]

GUYS this fan art was made back in like 2019/2020

YEARS AGO. Y'all see what I see right?

Man

That's kinda

Crazy

Bro

Bro indeed.

That's very, very 'bro.'

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[weaselbeaselpants]

Hey ya'll (@rockanroller, @chaifootsteps, @theoddest1) I'm sorry to sound like a nag but I seriously think it'd be best not to give the Bad Webcomics Wiki attention for being some of the first people to publicly hold any criticism of Vivziepop. YMMV in as far as how anyone wants to fully blacklist all the advice ever made there, but speaking as a person who saw all of it happen:

>LincarRox, Viv's personal stalker-creeper hung out there w he was kicked out of HH aminos for being a jealous freak. He then tried to take down Starlatte, -who was also a user there and is known now- , the woman infamous for trying to get her rewrite of Hazbin canonized by Viv.

>As I can't stress enough, (Gooseworx was also aware of it), amongst the doofy haters and layabouts was a guy on there who sent Viv graphic r@pe art of Angel Dust fucking her decapitated head. I think the thread from there showing that evidence is gone now but yeah it's still up on Viv's Encyclopedia Dramatica entry.

All three of these instances seriously crossed the line and no I don't think pointing out what Viv and other SH people did is bad justifies those things.

And yes, since it was one of the only places for awhile w any critical discussion of Viv was discussed, it means that some of the earliest known exfans and detractors have used said forums. As with KiwiFarms, I trust individuals who happen to use websites like that for whatever reason, but I don't trust those sites as a whole.

Sorry. I swear I'm not trying to start some shit, guy. I just think these facts shouldn't be forgotten. Selfishly I also just Viv's stans and supporters are prolly gonna use that against ppl, but realistically I was also a young kid reading BWW's entries on MoonOverJune and shit and when I saw Zoophobia get added it was surreal and I visited the thread on that every day- I saw in real time people make genuine criticisms, shoot the shit, and then BOOM rapeporn. Scars.

#vivziepop critical #helluva boss critical #hazbin hotel critical #bad webcomics wiki #vent #genuinely don't want to be a rewhisteblower but it was bugging me too much if this didn't get brought up

[s3tok41b4]

This is sad to hear. Thank god the others are doing well and karma, when ever it’ll happen, will hit Viv hard.

https://www.tumblr.com/theoddest1/740682590393188352/you-ever-just-know-someone-is-so-horrid-and

Jeez :(

[chaifootsteps]

Looking back on this then looking at this tweet she made...hmmmm

Really makes ya think, doesn't it?

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[chaifootsteps]

Fun fact, Morgan Berry warned everyone that the cast was replaced....ALL OF THEM.

Now about the tweets and likes

And what did Viv have to say about Morgan? Well she hid behind her patreon and said Morgan knows NOTHING ofc!

But turns out Morgan was right. Crazy stuff.

Well, fuck.

The words of the Morgan Berries are written on the subway walls.

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[chaifootsteps]

Hey, a friend pointed out how Zeurel was credited for some art on Vivziepop's video "Silhouette" but in the WORST way possible. Another friend pointed out how tiny his name is compared to everyone else and I genuinely didn't even notice. Dude...

Vivzie's such a petulant baby. She can't even pretend to act like a professional adult and credit people for their work.

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[chaifootsteps]

Bruh, Viv acted like an idiot, people are all siding with the Megachan, and this all happens before her show, which is coming out VERY SOON and that new Broadway thing or whatever was announced today.. This....this was so stupid of her lmao.

See what I mean when I say that nobody sabotages Vivzie like Vivzie?

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[chaifootsteps]

Hey, I think peeps should take a look at this. Apparently, Viv didn't pay the VAs at first for some reason. Jill doesn't say when she DOES pay them, but this with the added context of the VAs expecting a good amount of them to get invited back for Hazbin is a pretty icky feeling.

https://youtu.be/BiW245Zc5so?si=YxxTdfJOwI06GfjC

I think one way or another, she used these people and then discarded them the second she felt she could get something better.

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[chaifootsteps]

Howdy! Just here to send some more info today. Looked through my server to find any other pieces of information and found more relating to a person named Ren. They went to SVA with Viv and are a Trans FtM individual if my memory serves me well (rather sweet person too from my time chatting with them in dms) and here they state their experiences with Viv.

Sadly the main tweet has been deleted since fans harassed or denied what the OP had said. One of the people who denied the allegation was Viv's sister, Mari. Now I don't know enough about Mari to judge her character, so I'll just chalk this up to her looking out for her older sister.

Mari would actually speak with Ren under OPs tweet if memory serves me well.

I believe that Mari had brought the situation up to Viv for questions cause I BELIEVE around this period is when Viv would go onto her personal account and talk about how SVA was a bad experience for her and that she has trauma from attending said place.

I did find a Screencap of Viv saying the opposite that I'll send in another ask cause I ran out of space for pics here.

Now around this time was when Viv would vague about Starvader on her Shwee Mee account and how she would say she is having "panic attacks" and "PTSD" from all these bad memories. I put these in quotations cause many times Viv would used these when under great scrutiny throughout her years to play at many people's emotions and make those involved feel bad or the audience she is addressing this too. It's a manipulative tactic pretty much. Even if she were to actually suffer from these things, most times she would play it up further to remove any kind of blemish on her image or to avoid further confrontation.

Thoughts?

Holy shit. This one's big.

It checks out with what we know about Viv and it definitely checks out with what we know about her fandom, but it's also an interesting look at how her sister runs interference for her. You can see why Viv put her to work at Spindlehorse doing exactly that.

Thank you immensely for finding this and sending it. It's one for the transphobia doc, for sure.

#theoddest1 #vivziepop critical #vivziepop fandom #vivziepop archive #transphobia #transandrophobia #actual blog post

[chaifootsteps]

You know things are bad when even her fans are becoming openly disgusted.

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[chaifootsteps]

Howdy! Odd here! I'm just here to provide some info I am not sure many have seen before. The first is about Zeurel (Kyra makes a cameo)

So at this point it is straight up confirmed that Viv was who he was referring to in the first image.

This was also the last message sent by him to Viv publicly (didn't see any other posts at the time)

Then there's RJ.

I have no real clue who this person is a friend had found these awhile back, so if anyone has any idea, please do speak up if you're comfortable!

Bonus images

Let these be a reminder that no matter how much one defends a person, it doesn't mean the person being defended will return the favor. It's crazy looking back on these. They had her back, she never even THOUGHT about theirs...

Aside from all this, I hope you all had a wonderful day/night and that I helped in any way provide any unknown or buried information!

Just so you know, Odd, you're a goddamn wonder and I wish I had a tenth of your gift for sleuthing. Thank you, hope you have a wonderful night too, and thank you as always for the buried information!

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[chaifootsteps]

Lmaoooo would be so poetic!

Oh my fucking god.

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[chaifootsteps]

Bro is it just me or is the likes and overall traction for HH dwindling VERY badly???

Like look at this then compare it to the "Written By Vivziepop" meme.

Sorry for the long screenshots but just wanted to give some comparisons. Like dude. Am I tripping for finding this embarrassing??💀

Don't apologize at all! These are some excellent, extremely revealing screenshots.

The winds, they are a changin'.

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[chaifootsteps]

Howdy! Odd has arrived! ^^

Here is Viv practically encouraging/congratulating fans for pestering someone over a goddamm meme. Regardless if they presented a good argument or not, they very much mocked and flooded this person with their own opinions, took the meme too seriously, and so on.

Btw not all the fans were rude about this opinion, I would like to clarify, some were pretty chill and understood WHY the appeal wasn't to the individuals liking and pointed out a bad decision the person made, reasonably might I add.

But of course there were those who flooded this person with their opinions and treated it as though it is fact.

Some would even use the argument that HH was independent and had no funding from a company like SU and other shows and so should not get criticism or be compared to other shows.

Observe how bs that argument is

So yeah, that argument is trash.

I like how the person who made this meme specifically said not to harass anyone involved with the show, and Vivzie expressed her appreciation for this (while getting in another jab), but she almost never makes a move to call off her fandom when they're harassing someone. On the contrary, she encourages it.

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[chaifootsteps]

Her on threads a bit ago. Just wanted to share here just in case there can be a discussion from then to the current sitch!

Vivizie, for the umpteenth time, you are not the silly quirky cringe girl who draws weird shit in the corner of study hall. You're Regina George, and you've always been Regina George, and as a 30-year-old-woman in a community of indie animation names, you're increasingly infamous for acting like a volatile, egotistical, petulant baby.

It's your fault your shows are a joke. It's your fault people like you less by the day.

See you back on Twitter in about three days.

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[chaifootsteps]

Here's what is known and alluded about what happened between Viv and Faust.

It also doesn't help that Viv still had Faust working on the comics despite losing their mom. Not even sure if Viv responded to the tweet here to reassure Faust and give condolences and from the looks of things, grew distant with them around this time

Faust also admitted to not touching the comic for months before going back at it again

Sooooo I guess Viv had Faust and Faust alone (majority of the time) work on it and money disputes was happening behind closed doors, thus why they hadn't touched it in so long.

Thoughts?

The fact that Vivzie treated someone she was this tight with this way, someone who worked on her previous Hazbin comics, should scare the hell out of anyone who considers her a friend today.

It happened to Faust, to Ashley, to Ken. Viv doesn't care.

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