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grapejuicegay · 1 year
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Okay, friend
#OH NO I HAVE TOO MANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS#first of all the obvious red and blue boys#the one who's ready to jump all in at the slightest hint of reciprocation#and the one who gets too into his own head and tries to chicken out of talking about his feelings#but also thinking about all the meta (and specifically jemmo's post) about the ep 10 fist bump#and how they were on the same level through it all and how their relationship is level and reciprocal at every point#and how we're seeing the exact opposite take place here in msp#tinn has just been rejected#and done so in a way where he has no idea that gun likes him too#gun trying to reach out in a situation that IS difficult for them both#but he has a step up on tinn here where he knows that his feelings are reciprocated even if they can't be together right now#and so of course tinn is the one to step back when he tries to make a move under the cover of the mv#because he has just been rejected where gun... just hasn't#and most importantly both episodes ending with immaculate food based flirting 10/10#anyway here's some boys fist bumping about their feelings in ep 6#(and talking about said feelings next to a body of water)#tune in next week for boys not really dating and also performing a tragic romance in ep 7!#my school president#my school president series#bad buddy#bad buddy series#bad buddy brain rot#this isn't about bad buddy but when is anything not about bad buddy anymore#< i love this tag but you best believe i am going to make anything and everything about bad buddy#kk.gifs#oh this is my first gifset of 2023!!!
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liyazaki · 1 year
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in praise of complexity
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it's way easier to write two types of parents of queer kids: the 100% accepting parents, and the in-your-face homophobic variety.
I've had my fingers crossed that My School President would opt for the third, more complicated kind. this show has been too nuanced and well-done for me to hop on any "Tinn's mom is probably the devil" bandwagon, anyway. in the end, they not only went the more complex route- they delivered in a big way.
when we first met Photjanee, she seemed like the stereotypical strict drama parent with sky-high expectations, thanks at least in part to her job.
we were slowly given insights into her and Tinn's relationship, and we got to see the affection and deep care they have for each other. it was heartwarming to watch, and establishing how loving their relationship was was essential to the conflict that came next.
in a little stroke of writing genius, most of Photjanee's struggle with Tinn and Gun's relationship- and with what that relationship meant for her son- were almost exclusively intended for our eyes only.
they gave us an unusually large amount of Photjanee-focused scenes (more than a few only had Tao in them), showcasing her growing suspicions and internal struggle. when she briefly interacted with someone else in these scenes- Tinn's dad, Gun's mom, Kajorn- the focus always remained on her and ended with her.
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the writers easily could've given Photjanee expository dialogue during these moments- i.e. "I'm just struggling so much with xyz"- but for the most part, they didn't. they mostly opted for "show, don't tell"- another unusual but stellar move, especially for GMMTV fare.
Tao Sarocha took us on Photjanee's journey with mainly facial expressions, tone of voice, pauses and where her gaze lingered. we didn't need to be told this was a mother who loved her child dearly, while simultaneously struggling with revelations about who he is. we could see it for ourselves.
Photjanee wants Tinn to be happy and free, but she's afraid for him. she doesn't want him to feel rejected, but she doesn't know how (at first) to reconcile herself to a future she never imagined for him.
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she didn't start as an open-arms ally, nor was she a bigot. she's an adoring, terrified mom adapting to change as best as she can. not a moment of her journey was rushed- these things can take time (sometimes a lot of it), and the writers gave that to her...to us.
Photjanee wasn't perfect- she was real (she sure as hell felt like it, anyway). and it made the beautiful, beautiful ending all the more meaningful.
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reborn-illusion · 1 year
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I'm actually so fascinated by this scene, because is shows so clearly who Tinn and Gun are and how they operate.
They're both deeply uncomfortable from the start.
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Gun's approach is to then put on a cheerful persona, learned by not wanting his mother to worry or feel troubled about him. I think it's partially in the hopes that it will ease Tinn's discomfort and partially because he genuinely doesn't know how else to be in these situations.
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But this is not what Tinn wants or needs. He goes along with it though, because he cares so deeply for Gun and doesn't want to let go of what they do have. It might also be his resolve, after feeling so rejected and heartbroken the day before, that he must accept their situation for what it is. These are his first attempts of 'getting over' Gun.
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The scene they have to act out then becomes something completely different for the both of them. For Tinn it's a cruel reminder of what he thinks might never be, and painful because this is not how he had envisioned any form of intimacy with Gun to go. It's fake. And it's certainly not what friends do, so how could Gun do any of this after just having declared so loudly that that's all they are?
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But for Gun this is the first time he can 'safely' explore all these feelings he's been having! He stated several times before how scared he was for the truth. For the real deal. For the reality of Tinn liking him, and him liking Tinn back. For the possibility of him being wrong and misinterpreting everything. Scared of the loss that comes with love, scared of the rejection.
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But within this make-believe setting he gets to feel what it would be like to kiss Tinn's cheek. He went off script for it and everything! He really grabs the opportunity to experience what a 'more than friends' dynamic with Tinn would be like, without the consequences of having to explicitly ask him if he wants to be more. Or having to confess that that's what he wants, even to himself.
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And then he does admit he likes it! But of course there actually are consequences, because for Tinn this experience was awful. What felt safe for one felt painful for the other...
So Tinn breaks, and Gun's bubble bursts... But they finally talk! Them acting for the MV needed to happen for both of them to take the next step. For Tinn to truly realise that honesty and sincerity are the only way forward for him. And for Gun to realise what it is he feels and wants and to meet Tinn there and to put his trust in them.
Tinn's confession comes so easily now. No more fear or hesitation. In some ways probably because he has already accepted that they'll never be together. But then Gun confesses too! So reminiscent of Time's confession in 2gether!
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Plus the next line "Do you have any idea how hard it was for me to act like I was your friend today?" saying that pretending to be 'just friends' was hard, but acting like they were more than that came easy!
And so, if it's impossible to pretend to be friends, why force it?
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And they are even now! On even ground, equal footing, uncharted territory for both of them. And they'll get to explore all of this together!
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bengiyo · 11 months
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Our Skyy 2 x My School President Ep 2 (Finale) Stray Thoughts
Yesterday, we entered the Multiverse of Cuteness and returned to the world of My School President. Things are different this time around. Tinn and Tiwson are members of the Lion Band, Gun and Por are members of the student council, Gun's mom is the principal, Yo and Pat have switched places, and Sound and Win have switched places. The characters at their core feel the same, but their circumstances have adjusted the way the story has played out. Everything feels off, but in a way that seems to really appreciate who these people are. Their struggles will play out differently, but they're still inevitably drawn to each other.
I'm so glad we returned to the "I only see cuteness scene."
Welcome back, Kajorn. Glad you're still causing complications.
OMG. Everyone else is trying to keep Tinn upright and Tiwson is waving at Por.
Welcome to the team, Kajorn.
Tiwson and Por are thriving.
Oishii has been keeping the lights on in BL for so long.
Hey, we still got Tinn to give Gun a piggyback ride.
The music video is an ode to Aof's shows! I'm going to scream!
I love the questions bit and how Tinn leans into the potential romance of it immediately.
Oh no I really don't think they should be practicing rugby on concrete.
I want to see Satang and Winny fight people in a future show.
Love Por and Kajorn spooning. Unexpected, but welcome.
Was that a fucking air horn??
Tin is down bad in every universe. I like that it's Gun's hesitation that holds them back every time.
THE PINKIE TOUCH STILL BELONGS TO THE GAYS!!!
Let Me Tell You instrumental, my beloved.
Winny and Satang look good in this outing. They're not ready yet, but they have potential.
Oh, Gun. He broke the questions bit by being scared again.
I get the fear of rejection. Gun was such a loser in the original show that he'd already put a tough facade over it because he was a performer.
Love that Tiwson and Por get to have the strongest dynamic this time. Mark is so good, and Ford is playing with everything Mark gives him.
Oh no. Potjanee is sick in this one!
Oh, does she just have narcolepsy??
Potjanee remains nosy in every universe.
Sound gets to be Pat and Win gets to be Pran. I get it.
I'm going to bite through my non-existent retainer.
Oh, Gun. Gay boys and hoping they're braver in another universe. Thank you, Por, for reminding us to make the most of the time we have.
Look at Potjanee being gossipy! Love this for us! And now Hook is playing!
Love when the gays go running for each other and it's warranted.
The friend zone line is back!
Gemini and Fourth are very good at hugging each other.
Oh, Lays, let's make sure you get your ad in too. Gemini, a Known Crumb Crusher, was the correct choice.
Losing it over Tinn and Gun as Thun and Mes, and Tiwson and Por as Phupha and Tian.
I am so glad we got another music video.
A time skip!!
Final Verdict: 9, Recommended. This outing was an excellent examination of the nature of an AU and how it can highlight core aspects of characters in other settings. I really enjoyed that every character still felt correct even if we put them in a different position in the story. I liked the idea that they would all still choose each other. I love that you can't walk away from this without seeing how important Tinn's bravery and determination were critical to the way MSP unfolded, and how tenuous they are because of Gun's insecurities. This was really excellent.
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fangirlmedstudentblog · 11 months
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Ok, so now that I've watched the msp our skyy eps and slept on it, my thoughts are finally a bit more than indecipherable sobbing at every tinngun scene lol.
Spoilers for anyone who hasn't seen the our skyy 2 my school president episodes yet
Me after just looking at tinngun pics yesterday after the ep ended
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But i will say one thing they've done well in these 2 eps is UNDERSTAND how to do a life swap au. It was one of my bigger fears about the our skyy msp episodes. Because life swap/role swap aus are often hard to get right. And I'm happy they understood the assignment 😃
Because i absolutely LOVE how they've swapped the lives of Tinn and Gun and how you can see it's changed so much about them, but yet at the core they're still the same tinn and gun we know and love!
I really appreciate how they've just kept the fact that Tinn is still so much more confident and ready to *go* for something despite the fear of rejection and Gun's still more hesitant, still the same boy who is still afraid of *why* he's so loved. (I have a feeling that his dad isn't alive even in this universe, though I'll be happy if that's wrong)
I've seen meta saying how Gun not having that creative outlet as in the original universe has kinda made him more subdued (he's still bratty). And it's so true.
Also there's something to be said around Gun's willingness to pine away from afar and just be happy in the moments he gets with Tinn that is so *him* but also a little nod to those in real life who are not as bold as the original Tinn. Gun's insecurities are something MANY of us have irl.
Gun always has been the one who's a bit more hesitant and it's always been Tinn who quietly but steadfastly just patiently waits for Gun, has always seen Gun and just aaahhhhhh it's so GOOD the way these two ALWAYS support each other 😭😭
Like how @bengiyo says it in their our skyy ep 2 recap, these eps show just how much of Tinn's trust and confidence in himself and his feelings were critical to the way the og msp unfolded and gave us so many of the moments we squeal about.
Also credit to @lurkingshan and @distant-screaming for their thoughts on this episode who are articulating what i feel much more concisely and without ending up writing a mini essay lmao
With that who talk of Gun and Por in the school bench scene (Never Let me Go school I see ya!) it's such a beautiful talk. The whole sequence is such a nudge to Gun and to those of us who are hesitant in real life to do a particular thing that there's not much use just thinking about what your alternate universe self will do and instead just try to go for it in your *own* universe.
I also loved all the references to aof's past works in the mv and the ost as usual are bangers. (Someone please buy me the ost album 😭)
If I had to say, maybe there's just three things I'd complain a little about these eps:
One, there should have been more i absolutely LOVED it
Two, i would've liked TinnGun to maybe have (1) new scene and a small cheek kiss at least (this is a bit more of a personal thing) maybe at that 1 year point ? I would've liked to see it at that point at least but that hand holding was also excellent 10/10 sobbed a lot
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Three, I would've liked a glimpse into the lives of the original universe and how they are doing now (I miss them so much MY BABIES) and if that time skip scene had been for the original universe TinnGun somehow i would've loved it even more
Anyways that's all i have to say about these our skyy eps for msp (for now) and thanks for reading through my ramblings 💜
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purplefacey · 1 year
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at first glance, people may think that soundwin are too familiar or too similar in the ways they act to be a couple. from the way they both bicker and hold themselves at such a high standard, it makes sense. but when you look deeper into it, and realize the reasons WHY they bicker and WHY they hold themselves at such a high standard, it makes you realize why they are actually perfect for each other.
sound from a young age already had to compete with people (tinn) and had to work up his way to fame. he’s already known to the world and had to work hard to get there. he hides behind a wall and represses his feelings and takes it out on others because he believes people may use him or such. with fame, you don’t trust a lot of people easily and having a group of guys just ask you “we need you to join our band!” is automatically suspicious to you. so sound bickers. he argues even when he joins the band. he’s an individual at fame. he doesn’t know what it’s like to be part of a group of people and work as a team. his ego has already been set to a higher standard, that he already believes he doesn’t need anyone else. but he’s always been by himself, until he met chinzilla. until he met win.
win on the other hand, is one of those characters you know represses their feelings and tried to hide behind everything and everyone. even though you don’t know their backstory, it’s understandable that some people don’t know how to express their feelings and choose to hide behind them. that’s the type of character win is. win is the one in the friend group who has to keep his cool. he doesn’t want to be the one to burden the group because he loves his friends so much. even tho he’s always straightforward and always says his opinion, deep down there is more to him then shown. he choose to put a tough face on because it he doesn’t want to concern anyone or have to showncase his true feelings. that’s until sound comes into place.
when soundwin first meet, we can already seen how they bicker at every given moment and argue about almost everything. like satangwinny said, they are like magnetic with the same pole that keep trying to pull towards each other, but never connect. but slowly that bickering and that arguing became something comforting to the two of them. both of them never realizing that bickering could be something special that makes you realize “this person could be the one for me.” their bickering showed that they actually cared for each other and that’s how they showcased their feelings. neither of them have ever been that way towards anyone else but each other. there’s a reason sound pulls away when win starts to slowly to him because sound doesn’t know what it’s like to like someone because of how they act or such.
one other thing is the way that they have the “i like you” and “i don’t like you YET, but i’m willing to try because it’s YOU” trope. this trope isn’t quite as used in tv shows, but i’m glad it’s shown in this tv show. sound falling for win makes complete sense and him portraying his feelings in a song, is a complete sound move to do. win also not reciprocating these feelings does make sense because of the way he acted around the girls and such. but the fact that win willingly chose to ask sound to teach him to like sound is what’s so powerful. win could have straight up rejected sound and said nothing after, but he chose to try. if it was anyone else, win most likely would have said no, but because it was sound he said yes. they already have the compatibility for each other and they understand each other like no one else does.
anyways soundwin is perfect for each other and i cannot wait to see their development. gmmtv please give them a sequel or something, cause i need more of them. thanks
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quodekash · 1 year
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OKAY it's now the morning so it's time for me to share all of my thoughts from this episode. prepare yourselves, its gonna be a lot. also a lot of it isnt gonna be very coherent. you have been warned.
tinn calling gun 'darling' over the phone 🥺
photjanee why must you be heteronormative and assume tinn likes a girl
istg pat calling yo 'bro' was the funniest thing ever (maybe i was just tired lmao)
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look at this style gay man. this icon. this king. i love him with all my soul.
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this man's face is one of the most precious things on this planet
i thought we were ten minutes in and already getting a soundwin moment, but then sound freaking rejected win's offered seat and sits at the front???
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poor win is so confused
why was tiw getting in the bus van thing with the pool toy still around his waist
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sir what are you doing
WE FINALLY GOT THE FREAKING BEACH SCENES OMG
THEY ALL LOOK SO HAPPY IN THAT GROUP PHOTO (por can you send me that group photo pls?)
YEAAAAAHHH WE FINALLY GOT THE TIWPOR PHOTO TAKING. AND ALONG WITH THAT WE GOT THEY SMILING AND LAUGHING TOGETHER, AND TIW TAKING A PHOTO OF POR WHILE HE POSED AND LOOKED CUTE AND THIS IS NOT STRAIGHT BEHAVIOUR
i deeply appreciate the tiwpor crumbs
i do not, however, appreciate being catfished bY A CUTE SOUNDWIN BEACH MOMENT
yay for cute tinngun beach scene tho
even if it is ruined multiple times by people
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THE OISHII ICE TEA IS HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS
ITS TIME FOR A CUTE GAY MOMENT
(i cant explain how much i want this ice tea)
(i love ice tea)
why is tinn making out with the ice tea
and then gun made out with the ice tea so that they indirectly kissed and this is not at all what i was expecting from this product placement but honestly i love it
naturally yak had to destroy everyone's hope and happiness and freedom
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he is, however, deeply iconic.
tinn: how did my honeymoon turn into a music practice camp? tiw: my situation is worse tiw:
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tiw, i love you, but that's not worse.
TIW CHOKING ON HIS DRINK WHEN YAK ASKED THEM IF THEYRE CRUSHING ON HIS JUNIORS AND HE IS IN FACT SECRETLY DATING ONE OF THEM (well, hopefully. maybe. if hes not yet then he will be eventually. he has to be. i need canonical tiwpor in my life)
i understand the cover dancing. but why must you make music kids run and do squats and stuff. music kids dont want to exercise. leave the music kids alone. (i feel personally attacked from this. most of my friends are music kids. i dont want to be hanging out with them and relaxing on the beach and then suddenly forced to *terrified shudder* exercise)
yak telling por and pat and win and yo that theyre lacking something. idk about the others, but i know what win's lacking
he's lacking a boyfriend
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i have the not-yet-disproven understanding that por has a magical gift in the art of somehow-becoming-gayer-every-single-time-he-comes-on-screen (ill make this its own individual post one day with evidence and stuff)
TIWPOR CRUMBS WHILE TIW IS TEACHING THEM TO DANCE
SOUND-TINN RIVALRY CRUMBS, YES, THEY BETTER FLIPPING EXPLAIN IT SOON. THEY DONT IN THIS EPISODE. BUT IF THEY DONT EXPLAIN IT BEFORE THE END OF THE SHOW IM GONNA PUNCH SOMEONE
"Dont you want to try a love song?" "Oh, please. A love song?" "i'm just saying. if youre not into it, thats okay." "its not that im not into it. but im more afraid our members wont be into it. look at them. none of them is romantic. none, none at all" "But there are many types of love. let's say puppy love or sweet love, im not into them either. i prefer the tough kind of love *he's smiling and thinking fondly now*" "right. i like that too. in the beginning, we just didnt stop fighting. in the end, i blushed for him without knowing it."
SOUND MAKES A FACE OF REALISATION
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DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYS
"Gun." GUN IS CONFUSED. HE LOOKS OVER. HE READS SOUND'S EXPRESSION. "hey!" "you just said… don't tell me…" "wait, no-"
"DID YOU KNOW I LIKE WIN?"
HE ADMITTED IT. HE SAID IT OUT LOUD. AND TO GUN OF ALL PEOPLE. GUN NOW KNOWS. HE KNOWS ABOUT SOUNDWIN.
"HUHH????? YOU LIKE WIN???" "keep it down! people can hear" "you like win?" "i do." "ah! youve been avoiding him lately because of this?" "…yes. when im close to him, i just dont know how to act. when im near him, i feel so freaking awkward." sound, babes, its okay. you're allowed to have feelings
"should i just tell him honestly?" UMM??? YES????? ABSOLUTELY YOU SHOULD, YES PLEASE
gun why are you changing the subject. sound is asking for advice. dont just leave.
TINN ALSO KNOWS NOW
i love the way they were hiding behind a rock and spying on sound omg
side note: tinngun's height difference may kill me one day
sound and gun are sitting on the side watching the dance that the others practiced, and sound cant stop looking up at win he's so whipped i love him
"something im really into?" *proceeds to stare directly at win for a number of seconds*
THOU POOR LITTLE PINING GAY OH HOW I PITY THEE AND WISH TO GIVETH THEE A BIG OL' HUG
3/4 THROUGH THE EPISODE, YK WHAT THAT MEANS? THE SOUNDWIN PART
WIN IS APPROACHING SOUND WHILE SOUND IS WRITING
I REPEAT, WIN IS APPROACHING SOUND WHILE HE'S WRITING, WE GOT A COTE RED, CODE RED EVERYONE
win is asking whats up with sound recently
sound is aggressively avoiding eye contact
"im on mars looking back at earth and can still see you're mad. what are you mad at me about?" sounds thoughts: for being so bloODY HOT WHY MUST YOU BE LIKE THIS
"i said nothing. you should go now. im continuing to write the song" SOUND BBY DONT PUSH HIM AWAY HES ALSO IN LOVE I JUST DONT THINK HES REALISED IT YET
WIN STOLE THE SONG BOOK THING, I REPEAT, WIN STOLE THE SONG BOOK THING
SOUND IS VERY TENTATIVE AND KINDA SCARED
"you said you would write a song about chasing a dream. why did it turn into a sweet love song?" "well- im- exploring different types." suuuuuuuurrreeee. nice cover up story there, sound. subtle. he'll never figure it out.
"...do you feel anything after reading that??" POOR BBY IS DESPERATE HE NEEDS A HUG (i volunteer as tribute to give sound a hug)
win looks down at it. reads it again. looks back up at sound.
"i do"
WE'RE GOING FERAL AT THIS POINT
THEYRE SMILING AT EACH OTHER
WE'RE TEARING OUT HOUSES TO SHREDS
BUT THEN--
"i feel like this doesnt suit you at all"
WIN.
HE WAS TALKING ABOUT FEELINGS.
LIKE THAT FLUTTERY THING YOU GET IN YOUR CHEST EVERY TIME YOU SEE HIM?
YOU KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT WIN
I KNOW YOU'VE FELT IT
"it gives me goosebumps" WIN THIS IS SO VAGUE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?? DO YOU MEAN GOOSEBUMPS WITH A NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE CONNOTATION?? IM NEURODIVERGENT AND SLEEP DEPRIVED I NEED TONE INDICATORS
"give it back. a dumba** like you will never understand" :[[[[
"what a waste of time" excuse me sir. the last time you said that you kissed him. now you're walking away.
(thats probably a thing i can analyse at some point. sound and his usage of 'what a waste of time' and an insight into his thoughts and his character. ill do that at some point)
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FREAKING GO AFTER HIM, WIN. BLOODY EXPLAIN YOURSELF
sound is now sitting on the beach. he is sad. that makes us sad.
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look at this sad boi, he nEEDS A FREAKING HUG
tinngun are approaching him to provide words of comfort
"i saw everything. its okay. if i were you, id be ticked off too. dam it. you wrote a song for him, and he badmouthed you back." and sound has this tiny sad smile on his face "actually, i wasnt that surprised. even if i told him directly, he wouldve turned me down anyway. you saw it. we're too different." HES TRYING NOT TO CRY DANG IT "it's good we ended it this way" SOUND- PLS- STOP- NO- WIN DIDNT KNOW WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, HE DIDNT REJECT YOU, HE LOVES YOU
"you can put your mind at ease now. no one is breaking the club rule." tinn is literally standing like three metres behind them. sound trusted gun enough to tell him that he likes win. i swear, if gun doesnt tell sound about tinn RIGHT NOW (or at least soon) IM GONNA TELEPORT INTO THE UNIVERSE AND SMACK HIM
"im sorry. im the first to break the club rule." YES. GOOD GOOD GOOD
"what??" "actually, im seeing tinn" G O O D. YOU SAID IT. WELL DONE.
sound is like rly confused and he looked behind at tinn and tinn kinda shrugged and nodded and sound says "how's that possible? when??" "my couple is no different than yours. tinn and i have nothing in common." YES YES YES YES BRING HIS HOPE BACK PLS TY GUN "but our dissimilarities got us to this point. just because you and win are so different, doesnt mean you two cant be together" YESSSSSSSSSS comforting hand on shoulder "trust me"
AND SOUND IS LOOKING AT THE SAND AND I THINK HES TRYING NOT TO SMILE BUT ALSO TRYING NOT TO CRY AT THE SAME TIME, HE NEEDS A HUG, ITS OKAY TO CRY, DONT WORRY SOUND
okie now hes smiling and nodding yayyyyyyyyyyyy
(btw im getting all this from constant commentary i messaged to my friend (who hasnt seen the show but basically has through my bad explanations and screenshots and screen recordings) and i started watching the episode as soon as it was out, and at this point through the episode id been watching for an hour and a half. i have too many thoughts and comments grbhbrhbrhb)
"i changed my mind. i will finish this song." YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
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excuse me gun??
im sorry, i love you, but that position is TAKEN
by TIW
he smelt it before either of them even KNEW
gun can be, like. the guy that hoists the mainsail or something
this next scene killed me
win knows sound's favourite bread
win's apology is to give bread
that's so in character for reasons i cant explain
and he bought the gay-moment water
and win unscrews the lid and it's mirroring that scene from last time and my HEART
GRABBING HIS HAND AND THE DRINK AND STEPPING CLOSER?????
WHAT IS THIS
THIS IS SOME WEIRD FLIRTING
SOUND DRINKING WATER WHILE MAINTAINING EYE CONTACT
SOUND WHY DID YOU STEP EVEN CLOSER
WHAT ARE YOU DOING
E Y E T O L I P F L I C K E R
GUYS JUST KISS PLS
TINN IS ASKING IF HE CAN KISS GUN
I REPEAT
TINN IS ASKING GUN IF HE CAN KISS HIM
WE GOT A CODE BLUE, CODE BLUE
and gun didnt let him, but thankfully tinn is a walking green flag and isnt getting mad or forcing himself upon gun. i love these two so much.
Gim. please. rest. you dont need to work every hour of every day. you're over-exerting yourself
OMG TINN'S MUM AND GUN'S MUM SCENE?? YES PLEASE, SIGN ME UP. THEYRE BOTH QUEENS
many more of gim's little accidental clues and photjanee's gonna figure out who it is that tinn likes
gotta love that perfectly-timed phone call tho, dam
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HOW IS POR STYLISH EVEN WHEN DOING WEIRD EXERCISES
HOW DOES HE DO IT???
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also LOOK AT THE GENDER ON THIS MAN
I WANT IT
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pat's shirt is the mood of the week
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they all look so Normal™️
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and then there's freaking por with his freaking rich-kid-twink-ness i love him
OHHHH THE DANCING PERFORMANCE IS WHERE THIS CLIP IS FROM (the one of pat doing the worm. i kept vaguely wondering what it was from. and now i know)
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I CANT EVEN RN-- THIS IS SO FUNNY
IM LITERALLY CRYING FROM LAUGHTER
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look at this little happy proud gay man
i know i probably shouldnt call him little cos he's 20cm (nearly 8 inches) taller than me, but idc, that's not the point
look at this little happy proud gay man
i know i probably shouldnt call him little cos he's 20cm (nearly 8 inches) taller than me, but idc, that's not the point
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theyre gonna do so goooooood
also satang is probably grateful to the ends of the earth that he didnt have to do this dance lmao
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omg he managed to un-twink for 0.5 seconds
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my gender is win's poofy sleeves
also if you're familair with @ashedddaisy's red-yellow soundwin theory, win is wearing orange here. orange is literally the middle of red and yellow. he's getting there.
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DON'T WORRY, TIW, THEY DID IN FACT SLAY IT (boys)
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HE'S SO PROUD
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IT'S SO FUNNY TO ME
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the first to approach him was por. i repeat, tiwpor crumb alert, we got a code violet, code violet
AND NOW FOR THE MOMENT WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR
SOUND PERFORMING HIS SONG. BY HIMSELF. ON STAGE. IN FRONT OF A LIVE AUDIENCE. AND THAT AUDIENCE HAPPENS TO CONTAIN WIN.
I PROMISE, I WILL CRY (again)
"im not much of a talked, so im using this song to represent my feelings for someone" you know, im surprised yak didn't pick up on that. youd think he'd like, try and stop that, cos that's a love-related distraction
AHA I KNEW IT
I FREAKING KNEW IT
I CALLED IT I CALLED IT I CALLED IT
THE FREAKING TRACK THAT KEEPS PLAYING BEHIND SOUNDWIN SCENES
IT'S FREAKING EVERYWHERE
IT'S THERE WHEN THEY BADMINTON
IT'S THERE WHEN THEY "KISS"
IT'S THERE WHEN WIN PUTS THE HELMET ON
IT'S THERE WHEN SOUND IS THINKING ABOUT 'what im really into'
IT'S THERE WHEN SOUND WALKS AWAY AFTER SAYING 'what a waste of time'
IT'S THERE WHEN SOUND DRINKS THE WATER
AND NOW SOUND PRESSES PLAY ON THE MUSIC
AND IT'S THAT FREAKING TRACK
AND I KNEW IT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i cant even describe my thoughts on the song
i made an earlier prediction that this would kill me
i was right. i might currently be dead. the song killed me.
SOUND WALKING ALONE AFTER THE SHOW THING AND WIN CALLING HIS NAME, PREPARE YOURSELVES FRIENDS
"why do i feel like you just yelled at me through that song" BECAUSE HE DID
"how do you know i wrote it for you?" "it's so obvious. i can see that from mars" MY FREAKING HEART-
"why did you ask then?" "seriously, since when?" "remember when we practiced badminton together?" and win has this tiny smile and sound has this tiny relaxed smile and theyre actually killing me
YOU'RE KIDDING
THERES AN ENTIRE SCENE AFTER THE BADMINTON AND WE'RE ONLY GETTING IT NOW AND WE WERE NEVER TOLD???
YOU'RE. FREAKING. KIDDING.
THIS SCENE IS THE DEATH OF ME
also the track is behind the umbrella scene too
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THEYRE LITERALLY BOYFRIENDS
THEYRE DOING IT ON PURPOSE
THEY W A N T US TO GO INTO CARDIAC ARREST
i refuse to believe that win doesnt actually like sound yet
he just hasnt identified/confronted the feelings yet
and sound's reaction was the saddest thing ever, like i could smell the tears he was holding back when he said 'then we stay as friends'
BUT THEN WIN FREAKING SAYS "for something i dont know, im willing to try"
and if you're thinking 'WHAT DOES THAT MEAN????' then you would be correct
"c a n y o u c o a c h m e" i am dead
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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GUYS YOU'RE LITERALLY TWO CENTIMETRES FROM KISSING
AND THEN THE SCENE FREAKING ENDS
I HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER WEEK???
I CANT BE PATIENT
PATIENCE IS NOT IN MY BLOOD
AAAAAAAAAA
also side note: win is now wearing a yellow shirt under a yellowish-orange jacket thing. back to the red-yellow soundwin theory, he has feelings for sound, he's got the yellow shirt. and on the outside, he's still kind of hiding it, still trying to figure it out. the jacket is almost like it's been stained more and more yellow over time, and win wants sound to turn it pure yellow, he just cant figure out how to get there, which is why hes asking sound to coach him. over time, he'll wear colours that get closer and closer to sound's shade of yellow, to show him finally realising his feelings more and more. :]
"no pressure or anything, but our club's future is in your hands" jeez yak, that's a little intense dont you reckon???
omg gemini finally gets to do music-related things
i can see him jumping for joy in his mind
he gets to sing and play guitar
OMG WE GOT TWO NEW SONGS TODAY
probably cos last week we didnt get any songs
but WOW
"wow. did you write that?" "no. you wrote it. you wrote it in here *tinn points to his own heart* i just sang it out loud." WHEN I SAY THAT THESE TWO ARE LIFE GOALS, I FREAKING MEAN IT
and now tinngun are kissing with a notebook between them
WHY do they have to ALWAYS get SO FREAKING CLOSE and then DONT??????
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theyre really cute tho so i cant rly get mad
OH MY GOSH FREAKING HOT WAVE IS NEXT WEEK???????
THE FINAL FREAKING COMPETITION IS N E X T W E E K
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FUNCTION FOR SEVEN DAYS WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE IN MY BRAIN
ALSO NEXT EP WE'RE GONNA GET SOME SOLID CONTENT OF SOUND ATTEMPTING TO FLIRT AND WIN FALLING FOR HIM SO YAY
it's not quite what i was hoping for, but they're definitely aiming towards getting soundwin together, so its okay, theyll get there eventually
final thought/conclusion: this is my new favourite episode cos its like 50% soundwin
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ashedddaisy · 1 year
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"They say high school love is like a lit candle in the rain." And so they continue, as if showing that it's reciprocated, to exchange the umbrella under the rain. To exchange questions, to show interest, to hold the umbrella over both of them.
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And when he leaves Gun holding the umbrella over them but making his distance as he thought Gun had completely rejected him, made my heart ache.
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He was prepared, he knew the rule exists, and it still hurt him. Making him completely go out of the umbrella and do the request to do as if nothing happened, to act as friends. And Gun, confused but accepting, still holding the umbrella watching him leave.
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And it's interesting because after all the confessions, all the signals, Gun finally accepting that this is happening and is real, he could no longer act just as friends as Tinn requested. But that scene is interesting enough to have its own post, because the flame on gun's heart has been officially ignited. (And baby boy surely is as impulsive as one can be)
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hello :) i saw your post where you said that tinn reminds you of sarawat (among other emotionally repressed queer male leads) and wow great minds must think alike as i made a similar post to that a few days ago! wat is still on my list of top bl boys and i’m sure that by the end of the series tinn will be as well. as you said, guys like him pine from afar and are more than pleased with just that as long as they get to keep this person in their life, no matter what form that takes in the end. they wear this mask of apathy, and at times hostility, all in order to hide what the other person means to them and the lengths they’re willing to go for their happiness, regardless of whether they know of their efforts or if it’s at the expense of themself. anyways, i’m glad that others seem to be enjoying this silly little show as much as i am!
hello!! within the first few minutes of msp i was hit with this nostalgic feeling—something about tinn felt so familiar, so instantaneously endearing. it’s because he reminds me so much of my fav emotionally repressed queer leads. except he’s not a carbon copy of them if that makes sense? he has his own flavor and personality while still maintaining what we saw sarawat/kurosawa/lwj/etc. go through.
the pining and yearning and wishful hope that maybe one day they would look at you and actually see that you have been standing there this whole time with your heart and soul bared. but…well…that’s scary. whether it be rejection, low self-esteem, or simply just the acknowledgement that it’s better to keep that mask in place…there is something holding them back. the one thing i love about dynamics like this is that the emotionally repressed one is going to have that big italicized Oh moment where they maybe get this burst of bravery to fight for what they want.
i think it’s neat that going into msp i had zero expectations. i was hoping for something silly and fun to balance out the heavy stuff i was rewatching. i didn’t think i would be this enamored or sucked in. although i don’t *love* 2gether like i used to anymore too, wat is still a character that i hold near to my heart (and tine!!).
tinn is just that type of self-sacrificial character who just wants the person he likes to be happy. sure, he sort of messes around and teases gun but it’s never malicious or cruel. it seems like tinn is actually amused that he can get gun riled up. there’s never any ill intention behind what he does, in fact the poor lovesick fool was so earnest asking people to vote for gun’s band. he did the totally innocent thing of doodling his crush!! he takes satisfaction in hearing gun refer to himself with tinn’s last name. tinn just…he has a lot of strong feelings and he might not know what to do with them outwardly whenever he’s around gun but he sure knows what to do behind the scenes.
anyways. thank you for sending this! i’m glad that other people are enjoying this silly little show too. i have a lot of feelings about it already which is wild considering there is only 1 episode out. i can’t wait to watch tinngun grow as characters and learn their backstory! i cannot wait until episode two comes out tomorrow 🥰
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Iris Publishers - World Journal of Agriculture and Soil Science (WJASS)
Exploring Indicators of Food Choice for Chimpanzees at Taï National Park, Côte d’Ivoire: Aroma and Antioxidants
Authored by Chahan Yeretzian
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Taï National Park in the southwest of Côte d’Ivoire is the largest remaining tropical rain forest in West Africa and covers 555,000 ha. While it is recognized as a “Biodiversity Hotspot”, with a rich natural flora and fauna, it is also one of the last remaining habitats of many endangered species. The Taï Forest reserve was created in 1926 and promoted to National Park status in 1972. It was recognized as a UNESCO Biosphere Reserve in 1978 and added to the list of Natural World Heritage Sites in 1982. Among the many endangered species living in the Taï National park, one species of particularly concern is the chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes verus Blumenbach 1779), a member of the great ape family. Chimpanzees have already disappeared from four African countries, and are nearing extinction in many others, such as the Côte d’Ivoire where a survey reveals a sharp decline of 90 % (from 8 000-12 000 individuals in 1990 to 800-1200 in 2007) [1]. In the Taï National Park, the situation is currently stable with an estimated chimpanzee population of 480 individuals [2].
Primates living in such natural habitats face various constraints for their nutritional needs. Chimpanzees are regarded ripe fruit specialists [3]. Eating predominantly ripe fruits, chimpanzees obtain a higher dietary quality compared to other frugivorous monkeys, whereas during fruit scarcity also other plant parts are consumed [3]. Besides plant food, also vertebrates and invertebrates are part of their diet [4]. Chimpanzees are able to manage environmental constraints, such as e.g. seasonality of food availability. By adapting their feeding behaviour [5,6], they are able to take nutritional advantage of the temporal abundance of ripe fruits to reach a high supply of carbohydrate in their diet [4-7]. Similarly, they consume the fruit flesh (pulpa) of Sacoglottis gabonensis (Baill.) Urb. (Malpighiales: Humiriaceae) as well as the hard seed by using tools [8], again taking full advantage of the nutritional content of the fresh fruits.
Yet, they still have to deal with structural and chemical aspects of the available plants and fruits. As argued by Janzen [8], flora is not just green, but is colored by compounds such as morphine, caffeine, tannin or terpene. Particularly for fruits, chemical components and physical characteristics are often designed either to repulse or attract animals (or humans), with the objective to favour dispersion of the species. Impact of secondary plant metabolites and fruit colour on food choice are well documented in birds and mammals [9-13]. While colour is qualified as an honest signal of food quality and macronutrient rewards for birds [14,15], it might not be enough for a decisive answer on the maturity stage of the fruit. Therefore, primates were observed to use, in addition to colour, different sensory cues, such as the firmness (haptic) by biting and the smell (volatile aroma compounds) by sniffing the fruits, in order to judge the level of ripeness of a fruit. Hence, the aroma of fruits may be an important indicator of food quality, proving useful information to the animals about availability and presence of beneficial nutrients. Especially for nocturnal monkeys olfactory guided foraging plays an important role at narrow range as visual cues cannot be exploited [16].
 In this study, it was observed that chimpanzees from the Taï National Park smell on the fruits of the tree Sacoglottis gabonensis (Baill.) Urb., before deciding whether to eat or reject the fruit (N’Guessan, personal observation). Hence, in this study, we aim at examining the aroma composition of S. gabonensis fruits at different ripeness stages, in order to elucidate aroma compounds that may drive the selection of presumably ripe fruits by the apes. In addition, the antioxidant content of the fruits was measured to assess whether fruits, preferentially selected by the apes, were also characterized by a high antioxidant content.
 Methods
Study site and fruit collection
The study was conducted at the Taï National Park in the southwest of Côte d’Ivoire with the aim of identifying clues for food choices of the apes. Researchers have conducted studies on chimpanzees’ communities, fully habituated to the presence of human observers since 1984. It is known that Chimpanzees never consume Sacoglotis fruits in trees. After selection and collection of fruits on the ground, they put several fruits in their mouth, mash and eject the stone.
 During a field trip in September 2013 (by three authors of this paper: N’Guessan, Ahoua & Yeretzian), Sacoglottis gabonensis fruits have been collected in the natural habitat of the chimpanzees. Fruits were collected at the ground below the trees and the ripeness stages were judged by their texture, colour and smell. Fruits were separated in three lots of ripeness: unripe, ripe and overripe fruits. They were immediately processed by separating the flesh from the stone and immersing the flesh in liquid nitrogen (each in a small and labelled plastic bag) for storage in the Côte d’Ivoire. Later, for transport from the Côte d’Ivoire to Switzerland, fruits were transferred into dry ice.
 Aroma profile of Sacoglottis gabonensis fruits measured with HS GC-MS
After arrival in Switzerland, the fruits were stored at -20 °C. For sample preparation, fruits were directly taken out of the freezer, cut into small pieces and immersed in liquid nitrogen for two minutes. Approximately twenty g of fruit was then homogenized in a ball mill (MM400, Retsch, Haan, Germany). Five g of fruit slurry was put into a headspace vial and stored in the fridge for less than 60 minutes until analysis by headspace gas chromatography coupled to mass spectrometry (HS-GC/MS). GC/MS analyses was performed on a 7890/5975N instrument (Agilent Technologies, Santa Clara, USA) equipped with a DB-WAX column (30m × 0.25mm ID, Agilent Technologies, Santa Clara, USA) in electron impact ionization mode. For the headspace equipment (Gerstel, Mühlheim an der Ruhr, Germany) a 2.5 mL headspace syringe with a syringe temperature of 55 °C was used with a flush time of 60 s. The incubation time of the sample was 10 min at 50°C while agitating at 250 rpm. The injection volume was 1 mL injected with an injection speed of 200.00 μL/s, a split of 5:1 and a helium flow of 1 mL/min. The GC run started at 35 °C for 5 min and was then heating with a ramp of 20°C/min to 240°C with a 5 min hold. For data analysis, the software MSD Chemstation (Version G1701 EA E.02.00.493, Agilent Technologies, Santa Clara, USA.) and a mass spectral library (NIST08, National Institute of Standards and Technology 2008) were used. Compounds were identified by comparison of MS spectra and retention times with the mentioned database. The volatile concentration in the headspace of the three ripeness stages was statistically analyzed using Kruskal-Wallis rank sum test, followed by a post-hoc test. For further differentiation between the samples, we performed a principal component analysis (PCA) on the HS GC/MS data, using the software package R (http://cran.rproject. org/, Tinn-R editor version 2.4.1.5, http://sourceforge.net/ projects/tinn-r/). Odour descriptors were taken from Flavornet by Terry Acree & Heinrich Arn (http://www.flavornet.org, © Datu Inc., 2004) and from The Good Scents Company™ (http://www. thegoodscentscompany.com).
 Antioxidant capacity of Sacoglottis gabonensis fruits
For the antioxidant measurements, 500 mg of fruit slurry (see preparation for headspace analyses) were extracted three times with 10 mL of 70% aceton / 30% water phase. The extraction process included 10 minutes treatment in the ultrasonic bath and 2 min of mixing in a vortex. After evaporation, the residue was solved in 25 mL of water and filtered before analysis using 0.45 μm PET filters (Machery-Nagel, Düren, Germany). The Folin Ciocalteu (FC) reagent assay is measured on a FIAlab-3200 instrument (FIAlab Instruments Inc., U.S.A.) applying a FIA method [17]. The sample (diluted fruit extract) or antioxidant standard (gallic acid) were injected (injection loop 100 μl) into the flow stream (flow rate 30 μl/sec) of the FC reagent (0.2 M concentration). After mixing with sodium hydroxide (0.25 M concentration, flow rate 30 μL/ sec), to raise the solution pH for higher reactivity, dispersion in the reaction coil (1m tubing length) led to a mixing of the components and the reaction product (blue colored metal complexes) was measured photometrically (λ = 765 nm, slit 10 nm). A calibration curve was produced by analysis of gallic acid (GA) standards (gallic acid monohydrate, purity > 99 %, Sigma-Aldrich, SZBB0130V) at 765 nm. A stock solution was prepared by dissolving 50 mg GA in 100 mL degassed water and diluting with degassed water to provide working standard solutions of 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 ppm. For comparison with other studies, all results were related to the antioxidant activity of gallic acid and presented as gallic acid equivalent (GAE).
 Results and Discussion
Aroma profiles of Sacoglottis gabonensis fruits
Chimpanzees were observed to actively sniff on S. gabonensis fruits prior to eating. Therefore, there have to be volatile cues emitted from the intact fruit that help the apes to judge e.g. its sensory quality and/or ripeness stage. Our analysis was performed on fruit slurry to increase intensities, which possibly takes also into account volatiles that might not be released and perceived from intact fruits (intact exocarp). Further, the protocol used here for sampling and storage of the fruit did only allow analyses of smashed fruits. However, among the detected substances were also typical fruit flavours, which would also be perceived through the intact exocarp.
 Analyzing unripe, ripe and overripe fruits 22 volatile organic compounds (VOCs) were identified in the headspace of the smashed fruit flesh and chosen for characterization of the fruit aroma and for comparison of three maturity stages (Table 1). Only the absolute values of the HS-GC/MS headspace signal intensities from the 22 compounds can be presented here since quantification of headspace volatiles is difficult due to unknown partition coefficients of the volatiles between fruit matrix and headspace. Taking this into account, we applied the highest significance level (p<0.001; 99.9 %) for the decision on flavour differences between the three ripeness stages. In terms of hypothesis testing (Ho: there is no difference between the aroma at different ripeness levels) we strongly reduce the risk for Type I error. Regarding odour evaluation, we use descriptions made by humans. To the best of our knowledge, no such information is available for great apes.
Table 1: Compounds detected with HS-GC/MS in fruits of S. gabonensis at different ripeness stages and their flavor descriptors are presented. Given are mean values of absolute headspace intensities and their standard deviation (SD). Statistical analysis was done with Kruskal Wallis rank sum test. Statistical differences are denoted by small letters after analysis with a post hoc test (p<0.001). The sources for the flavour description are taken from AFlavornet by Terry Acree & Heinrich Arn (http://www.flavornet.org, © Datu Inc., 2004) and BThe Good Scents Company™. (http://www. thegoodscentscompany.com). ***flavour with high odour strength, ** flavor with medium odour strength, description taken from BThe Good Scents Company™.
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bengiyo · 1 year
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My School President Ep 8 Stray Thoughts
Last week, Chinzhilla interrogated the purpose of their no-dating before Hot Wave rule as Yo and Gun both managed secret affairs, which included active flirtation from Tinn. The hijinks eventually led to a secret date at the aquarium that was actually kinda fun, though Yo was properly rejected for catfishing. After a dance number, and a staunch rebuttal from their senior, they agreed to keep the rule. Gun has come to appreciate the motivating power of love. Also, there were lesbians.
I really hope we actually get through Hot Wave this week, and I hope the final act is about Tinn growing out from under his mother's thumb. Already worried we'll cliffhanger where we started.
Every time Aun's character shows up around Tinn, I wonder about the future of the music club after this year. Hopefully the final arc involves the band recruiting juniors to continue their traditions.
"But rules are rules, and I am the rule keeper." Keeping this note for the final four episodes on Tinn.
"Mr. School President, don't you want to give me orders?" Um, hello!?! I like Gun recognizing that he can just flirt his way to success with Tinn now.
I've missed Tinn's fantasies. Gun is especially flirty in them. Also, it's interesting that Tinn's mental image of Gun is in his school uniform.
Right now it seems like Tinn is still willing to argue about the interpretation of rules with his mom to get what he wants. Curious how he'll behave when that doesn't work.
Also curious how the band responds to Gun and Tinn going public in the future.
Gun is worried about Tinn being bored and uncomfortable, and Tinn is here fantasizing about all the face time they're going to get.
Oh ho! Tinn flirts back!
Okay, I need to know why the high school student council is meeting until 10 at night.
Lol, nevermind. Kajorn is just a buzzkill.
"Shit! The cops are here!" 😂
I gotta be honest, I'm not keen on a bunch of rowdy boys using a stove unsupervised at school either.
Gun as a belligerent drunk was not something I predicted, but it feels right.
Goddammit. I'm so sick of vomit in Thai BL.
Oh no, Tiwson is sowing chaos by insinuating there's something with Sound. Mark is pretty funny here though.
Mmm, Gun is starting to crack under the strain.
Ah, look at this romantically lit pool for another heartfelt conversation.
Of course Tinn recognized that Gun needed to blow off some steam, and now we get to see them wrestle in the pool. We are eatin' good this weekend.
Oh no, Tinn's mom is here to spoil the moment.
Don't tease me about an underwater kiss, MSP.
Fond looks very good on these two.
Boys hiding from one of their moms? Classic.
The Chinzhilla dynamic is really special, and I'm going to miss them.
Now I'm worried about Sound's wrists.
Yes, I do love seeing boys put helmets on for each other.
"Let me be the hand for you." 🤭
Win has always been caring towards his friends, so it's nice to see it for Sound.
Ah, I'm glad Gun knew about Sound's wrist.
I've really enjoyed how comfortable Gun has become sharing his fears with Tinn.
This tour to relax Gun is cute.
Hey, I like that Tinn told Gun ahead of time that he can't be present. It gives Gun a chance to reassure Tinn. Now when he likely rushes to see Gun play, we'll know it's because he wants to be there for Gun.
Crying over Gun and his mom.
Is this a Japanese BL??? RUN, BABY BOY, RUN!!!!
Oh lord a Nivea ad. It's about to get sappy.
Nivea scenes have never failed us. Feeling emotional about Gun feeling like he achieved something for the first time in his life.
Ah, I was wondering when we'd go to the beach. This was a fun episode.
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