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staysuki · 3 years

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My vote goes to chan×y/n

That entire conversation between the two of them had me tense but I feel more comfortable knowing that despite seeing a major flaw with y/n, he still knew how to put it across respectfully and even though it made her feel guilty, she also feels self aware now and she got some clarity on how to carry on, y'know? He knew how to talk to y/n in a way that made her understand that even if she didn't mean to harm anyone and even if she didn't mean to string anyone along, she was still hurting them and she needed to get her act together a bit, but he didn't insult her in any way and I think that helping your partner improve without fundamentally changing who they are makes a wonderful relationship, and I believe that with y/n would be able to give Chan a bit of peace and calm away from all his duties because she proves her ability to handle herself, time after time. He seems like the type to treat his friends as people who he is obligated to protect and look after (which isn't bad for anyone but himself because people like that tend to stress themselves out way too much), so maybe having someone who he doesn't need to constantly worry about and is able to hold their own in any situation would be perfect for him. Anyways, that's that, I look forward to see how it ends

I still love minho×y/n, but I do agree with that other anon who said that he tends to treat y/n as a being who he has to acquire which feels a bit iffy, y'know? Idk if I'm making sense but he seems to underestimate how powerful all the other competitors are.

On the terms of y/n×changbin, it seems promising but since s2 focuses on the student council, I'd like to see a bit more of them before coming to a conclusion. He's a really nice dude though, and he has been nothing but amazing to every character in the series.

Y/n×Hyunjin feels a bit toxic to me rn, after everything that happened. Both of them should give each other space or atleast stay on friendly terms only for one more season at the very least. Currently they're both in completely different headspaces, with Hyunjin being in a state of guilt and y/n still trying to figure out her place in JYPU and trying to pace her love life, so I don't think either of them are currently in the position to date and support each other.

Y/n×Jisung is adorable. I mean the two of them would be so cute together, I really can't decide. But not much has happened, so I don't have much to comment on.

Y'all know how I feel about y/n×lix, it is the cutest ship ever, I love how he's giving her time and space as he can tell that she needs it, but with the competition, I don't see this ship having much luck.

Y/n×Seungmin is really adorable, it's the cutest thing ever, they are so perfect for each other, but since s2 holds alot of student council shipping, y/n×chan feels like it would easily overtake it soon.

Y/n×Jeongin would be cute but need more substance to go "KDKDOCIEZUXJJX HE'S PERFECT FOR HER I LOVE THEM TOGETHER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH", y'know?

Anyways, I love the way the series is going so far, I'm scared for this vice prezzie, she is scaring me, but I'm excited.

Anyways, for the picrews:

https://ibb.co/Sf9KkWG

People on the internet tend to think that I'm soft and fluffy and you know the general vibe, very light academia-esque. I also type alot because it's easier for me to type than talk so people think I'm chatty.

https://ibb.co/NmB0j04

Irl, I tend to be a bit work-centric, even back in school I was your local nerd who used to be obsessed with comics and books and my general knowledge was higher than most my age, I used to be a tutor (the only tutor in my school because our school didn't actually have a tutor system, it just started with me clearing doubts and the that turned into explaining lessons and soon it was a daily thing), but people found me slightly difficult to approach because I used to snap at the people I was tutoring sometimes (honestly I wouldn't be mad if someone didn't understand, I get mad when people don't even try and then waste my time because I have better things to do than just sit around and waste my people who aren't giving a shit) and I was on my school's student council so I used to snap at all the students who were being shitheads who didn't know how to understand that instructions are meant to be followed. I was also a very rule-abiding person who lectured rule breakers on why they need to follow rules and why they need to keep themselves safe and so that was basically what other people thought about me.

https://ibb.co/XpKcwsc

Alrighty so my friends see me as someone who was the mom friend for several years and now I have retired and couldn't give a shit. Basically they mention a plan that endangers them or someone else, I open my mouth to try to convince them not to, I remember that advice never worked with them and I just go along with the plan and make sure that no one gets hurt or caught. I also cook quite a bit because I love eating my own food, so people associate me with food. And cats. And books. Those three things are all I ever need.

Also my current job is a secretary for this bigshot business dude so the company is currently undergoing a few problems so I've been a bit busy so I'm sorry if I haven't responded much, or spoken much, I really enjoy reading but I don't have the energy to talk so sisiziax I hope that you can excuse my inactivity

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pizza anon!!! ♥️♥️♥️

chan x y/n 👁👁 that’s a new vote!!! that’s honestly a good perspective tho. like seungmin’s, if it was chan, it would be an overall mature relationship full of calmness and understanding. chan is definitely good at conversing with people and bringing up situations that others may tend to shy away from talking about in (like y/n’s love life), and he does it in a caring and a respectful way. like, you can tell he’s saying it from a place of good heart rather than to try and bring others down.

minho x y/n is true, minho (although he’s trying to better himself) still has an ego the size of a dump truck and it shows in the way he tries to pursue y/n :(( they’re both strong-headed and even though minho would bend over backwards for y/n, it’s unlikely that they’ll never clash.

changbin x y/n!! i can’t wait for the student council focus. and true, changbin has just been a great trooper all around 🥺♥️. he’s gonna be a major character in one of the arcs too so i can’t wait to show ya’ll more of his “calm, cool, and overall nice” guy kind of vibe. like, even though he’s not personally close with anyone (has no history with any of the characters) he still treats them with equal respect, even when hyunjin was throwing a fit.

hyunjin x y/n honestly that couldn’t be more true :((( they’re not in the same wavelengths rn but hyunjin is on his way to self-improvement so he’s still a strong contender once he gets himself back on his feet. he does need some space though 🤧💔

jeongin/jisung x y/n is also still a bit of a wildcard rn. although i teased it in the very final chapter, i’m yet to establish anything beyond their cute friendships so def stay tuned for that as well 😌🙌

felix x y/n UNDERRATED SHIP 😭💔!!! nobody’s voting much on this but honestly it’s alright. they’ll have more fluffy times. “but with the competition—“ you don’t have fate on felix either huh 😔💔

seungmin x y/n one of the easiest dynamics to write. they’re very refreshing together :,)))) and seungmin is just the nicest gentleman ever. but yeah, season 2 will focus more on the other guys for equal screentime ♥️

i’m excited for season 2 too 😤 and i’m gonna take a break from writing it to focus on my other smaus just so i don’t burn myself out because EHALOJ is such an open-world(ish) smau, there’s so many things happening all at once so i don’t want the quality to dwindle if ever i get overwhelmed 😡.

but as for the ships, season 2 will focus on the rest of the guys that haven’t had their chance yet (so goodbye minho, seungmin, and hyunjin and maybe felix for now). season 3 will probably be the first “elimination” to narrow down the guys, then season 4 might be the finalists where the ship will sail 😤🚢.

the picrews are so cute 😭♥️ and honestly, i felt that irl one. i’m also often seen like that (i was in the student council too!!) but even though i never snapped at anyone, for some reason they still get scared of me and i’m like 😀. and same, i love food :,)))) sometimes my mom gets angry because i’d cook food for myself even when there’s already food on the table but like, i want more food y’know.

and ofc!! it’s definitely okay 🥺🙌 no pressure in responding. we’re just glad you’re doing okay and i’m happy to know that you’re still able to enjoy some downtime and read for fun ♥️. i appreciate the feedback uwu.

#pizza anon #anon:🍕#ehaloj thoughts

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wandering-muggle · 7 years

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I don't understand how you can equate zuko to snape. There's a fundamental difference between them: zuko actually had incredible and visible growth, and decided to not be a douche. Snape continued to be a douche. Just cuz he was obsessed with lily and was motivated by that to side with dumbledore eventually, does not mean he wasn't still incredibly flawed. Zuko isn't controversial; snape is. Zuko improved, snape didn't.

I didn’t equate them in my initial post. I didn’t even compare them, I just stated that I would always defend them and praise their character development and depth. But, since you decided to bless me with your opinion about Severus Snape, let me bless you with mine…backed up by textual and canonical evidence.

1) Snape was not obsessed with Lily Potter. JK Rowling herself has said that if he was, maggots would have shot out of his wand and consumed him when he cast the patronus charm, not the beautiful doe that came out.

2) Snape DID have incredible growth. Snape DID improve. The fact that you deny the fact that he improved from who he was is baffling. Yes, Lily was Snape’s initial reason for turning against Voldemort, there is no question about that. But even after she was killed, he stayed on Dumbledore’s side and protected her son. Despite his initial motivation, we see him evolve into someone who genuinely sides with Dumbledore. I could give several examples for this, but I think perhaps the most obvious and most prominent is this scene:

DUMBLEDORE: How many men and women have you watched die?

SNAPE: Lately, only those whom I could not save.

This shows SUCH a big shift in Snape’s character. In the beginning, he was so cold that he was willing to give Voldemort a baby and his father just so that he could have Lily. Now, he is doing his best to save as many innocent lives as possible from the wrath of Voldemort. If you don’t think that qualifies as growth, I don’t know what does.

He also grew tremendously from who he was in his youth. The most obvious example of this:

PHINEAS: Headmaster! They are camping in the Forest of Dean! The Mudblood —

SNAPE: Do not use that word!

PHINEAS: The Granger Girl then…

Snape used the slur mudblood in his youth, there’s no denying that. He never used it around Lily until SWM, but as Lily says, he uses it in the presence of his Slytherin friends. What this scene shows is that Snape was no longer allowing the beliefs of his peers to influence his own. He had established his own opinions, and his opinions did not match the ideology of the Death Eaters.

3) Snape was totally a douche to Harry, there is no denying that. But ask yourself, do you really think things would have ended well for Snape if, after Voldemort’s eventual return predicted by Dumbledore, Voldemort were to look into Harry’s mind and see Snape treating Harry or any of his friends nicely? No. Why do I believe this? Because Snape was ridiculed enough by Death Eaters and Voldemort for all of the things he did:

SNAPE: Why is it that you do not trust me?

BELLATRIX: A hundred reasons! Where were you when the Dark Lord fell? Why did you never make any attempt to find him when he vanished? What have you been doing all these years that you’ve lived in Dumbledore’s pocket? Why did you stop the Dark Lord procuring the Sorcerer’s Stone? Why did you not return once the Dark Lord was reborn? Where were you a few weeks ago when we battled to retrieve the prophecy for the Dark Lord? And why, Snape, is Harry Potter still alive, when you have had him at your mercy for five years?

SNAPE: …Before I answer you, I say, let me ask a question in turn. Do you really think that the Dark Lord has not asked me each and every one of those questions?

Snape was a douche to Harry’s face, and to his friends, but when he wasn’t sneering at them or making side remarks in class, he was doing everything in his power to make sure that they were safe. Snape saved Harry’s life a remarkable amount of times, to brush that off because he was a douchebag to the kid’s face is so sad because you’re dismissing an entire chunk of his character. Snape also protected Harry’s friends. An example? When Snape gives Ginny, Neville and Luna the punishment of going into the Forbidden Forest with Hagrid for trying to steal the Gryffindor’s sword instead of handing them off to the Carrows in DH.

To compare him to Zuko…

Snape, like Zuko, deflected from the winning side of a war. Snape, like Zuko did Aang, gave Harry a vital piece of information that would win the war. Snape, like Zuko, had a shit father. Snape, like Zuko, spent so much of his life living in bitterness due to relishing in the unfairness of life. Snape, like Zuko, made one mistake that he spent a great portion of his life trying to correct, and found his true allegiance along the way. Zuko also kept the secret of the Avatar being alive for a very long time, which ensured Aang’s safety leading up to the invasion. Similarly, Snape ‘chose not to tell Voldemort that the latter was making a fatal error in targeting Harry. Snape’s silence ensured Harry’s victory’ -JK Rowling. Finally, and most similarly, Zuko and Snape also both have an understanding of something that their enemies view as weakness. Zuko has an understanding of kindness, peace, and mercy passed down from Iroh that Ozai could never hope to understand, which ultimately proves to be Ozai’s downfall at the hands of the Avatar. Snape has an understanding of love, friendship, and devotion learned from his friendship with Lily that Voldemort could never hope understand, shown in:

HARRY: Severus Snape was never yours, he was Dumbledore’s, Dumbledore’s from the moment you started hunting down my mother. And you never realized it, because of a thing you can’t understand.

And, like it does Ozai, this lack of understanding of concepts that Voldemort views as weakness ultimately proves to be his downfall against Lily Potter and then her son.

You say: ‘…and was motivated by that to side with dumbledore eventually, does not mean he wasn’t still incredibly flawed.’

And I would like you to point to where I ever said that Snape wasn’t flawed. Because he was, boy he was. Also, through this sentence, it seems that you are claiming that Prince Zuko wasn’t flawed. But last I recall, just because he was motivated to side with the Avatar does not mean he wasn’t still incredibly flawed.

Severus Snape did grow, Severus Snape did improve, Severus Snape was incredibly flawed, and at times, a douche.

Prince Zuko did grow, Prince Zuko did improve, and Prince Zuko was incredibly flawed, and at times, a douche.

They are both grey characters, they both spark debate. And frankly, to throw one completely aside because he wasn’t a nice guy to kids is a disgrace to the creator’s work and intention with the character.

#this got long but DAMN did it need saying #pro snape #severus snape #prince zuko #atla #hp

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itsclydebitches · 3 years

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She's the kind to be like "i'll kill for you", it's all fun and games until she actually means and/or does it. I'm assuming it's the same if not similar in the books? it's just so annoying to see a character treat everyone, including the man she is supposed to be in love with like shit and have it just be "well that just makes her a good mum" like idk this kind of devotion isn't healthy for her or Ciri either.

I read a lot of posts all over talking about yen and why people do and don't like her and it's all "you have to get past the cold rude arrogant outside to learn deep down she does care", or there was this one said people take what she says as who she is over what she does, as if she isn't saying AND doing terrible things, but there was this other one that was "actions don't define you as a person" that was a fucking ride to read through.

Anyway I'm just kinda miffed cause I went in to this trying really hard and wanting to like yen but she's so unlikable it's crazy. Maybe if her first few scenes weren't her being rude to Geralt for no real reason (and that snark about him and amnesia like BRO??) there wouldve been something to build off? Idkkkk

tysm for letting me talk about this! there's still so much within the series to look at and I adore it. apart from some things lmao BUT as with everything, there'll be bits you really just hate I guess.

You kidding? I love chatting about all this! XD

From what I've read myself and encountered elsewhere (I've gotten a lot of snippets from the later books as fans post excerpts for various arguments) Yen is a bit more complex in the novels than she's presented in TW3, especially depending on which dialogue options you choose. I mean, it's eight books. There are absolutely moments where I've gone, "Oh yeah, that's cute/sensible/romantic/heroic/etc." of her. She'd have to be a pretty static character to have that much content and not produce those reactions at least some of the time. That being said... she's definitely too similar in the books for my taste. Really, Yen was going to be an issue for me from the start, just given how her and Geralt's meeting goes in "The Last Wish." Her cruelty, brainwashing, and nearly getting him killed aside - because let's be real, an enemies to lovers-esque dynamic can be great - the wish itself always tainted their interactions for me. Yeah, yeah, I understand the theme of Geralt choosing his family regardless of what destiny or magic might say about it... but that doesn't erase that they are ambiguously bound by some kind of magic. We can read Yen's "You've condemned yourself to me" as just a lack of self-confidence, Geralt's love remaining a true thing no matter what any genies might have to say about it, but I personally can't ignore the very real, in-world, magical influence here. Every time the books discuss how often they've split, cheated on each other, fought, betrayed... but deep down they were still meant for one another, I'm thinking, "Are they? Or is that just the magical wish keeping two incompatible people tethered?" We can read them finding joy in one another despite the magic as something beautiful, or something tragic because what other choice did they have? Given how central that rocky relationship is to our protagonist's characterization and how awful Yen can be in general, yeah, she's still an acquired taste lol. She does get better later on, but how better I think depends on how you perceive her attitude at the start. Idk if you're into My Hero Academia or not, but I often compare her to Bakugo. Those who were already inclined to excuse his behavior hail the amazing growth he undergoes; those who couldn't stand him from the start (me) find the comparative improvement to still equal a pretty unlikable person. They're both undoubtedly better... but if you're starting that low, "better" won't necessarily be enough.

Oof yeah, I've seen those threads lol. One of my favorites was a discussion about whether Yen was a "bitch" or not (it also doesn't help when conversations about her character devolve into generic accusations of misogyny) and there was a response to the effect of, "Just because she's cold, judgmental, makes cruel remarks, and doesn't listen to Geralt doesn't mean..." and it's like okay, so we're just supposed to ignore all those traits - bypass them - to reach a "Yen is actually a kind person" reading? I have trouble with that lol. Honestly, the majority of my respect goes to those who are just in their fandom corners with their John Mulaney voice going, "Yen is a bitch and I love her SO MUCH." Like yeah!! I love lots of mean, awful, bitchy characters too!! There's no need to bend over backwards trying to prove they're actually a uwu poor baby whose every action was justified (outside of, you know, fandom joking like the "I've done nothing wrong ever in my life" meme). But yeah, I WANT to like her too! I don't enjoy being a part of a franchise where such a core, prominent character is someone I don't like spending time with. Who would want that?? So I've given her so many tries since getting into Witcher... and it just never sticks for me. I tried in the comics too only to come across a panel where Geralt dreams of Yen, but isn't sure if it was an actual dream, or a magical vision where they literally met. Vesemir asks if Yen was kind to him and when he responds that she was, he's like, "It was a dream lol." And yeah, that's the characterization! Geralt knows he didn't actually meet with Yen because the real Yen wouldn't have been that nice to him. And it's not in a funny "My real lover ALWAYS teasingly insults me as an act of kindness!" way but a much more literal, "Yeeeaaah. Yen just isn't that nice a person most of the time" and the examples we can point to when she is kind don't outweigh/erase everything else for me. In TW3 at least, she's very much the kind of person who will, completely seriously, blame you for getting amnesia. And you know the best part? She had it too! Not only that, but she actually recovers her memories earlier than Geralt and never looked for him and you also learn in the second game that she had a relationship with another guy while trying to remember who she was... so the fact that she's pissed at Geralt for going through the exact same thing (not seeking her out/relationship with Triss - only Triss was actively seducing him, so) is just wild to me.

But yeah, TW3 is a MASSIVE game that deliberately plays with different choices and perspectives. To say nothing of its "Life is hard and people need to be harder" worldbuilding. It would be a miracle if we liked every single thing in it lol. Like, Blood and Wine is probably my favorite bit of gaming ever and yet I just fundamentally disagree with CDPR's idea of a happy ending there. For both the main questline and a particular side quest the game goes, "This one is the correct choice ;)" and I'm like, "Lol not to my mind I'll take one of the 'bad' endings thanks!" Yen is just another example of that. The game clearly wants us to like her - she and Geralt are canon in the source material - but giving us the ability to decide who Geralt is means that we might just go, "Nope. Sorry. This 'correct' choice is one I'm passing by."

#witcher #TW3

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