#we at tommyplum are not team grace

[tommyplum]

Thats a great explanation! I feel the same, like maybe if they developed her story more. I knew from the first episode when she introduced and was like yep, this is the love interest i guess. (Also thought she wouldn’t get past the first season)And also! The same thing bothered me when i started watching like, she says “ive made irish men cry w my singing” and shes just average lmao. I think the show rushed their relationship and connection a lot to! I prefer lizzie or may for tommy tbh.

EXACTLY. Grace was very much coded as “the love interest i guess” (lolll so perfect a reaction, hee) and the shorthand used for how great she supposedly was -- how Campbell was all hot fired up for her, and how she ‘made Irish men cry’, how she back-sassed Polly *MASSIVE EYEROLL* -- didn’t make much of a good impression on us. She was just this lazy demonstration of men comparing their dicks with each other (Tommy making that obnoxious phone call to Campbell for example) and seemed quite fine with it all.

Where Lizzie has the same sort of thing of a bunch of guys wanting her and squabbling for her, there’s at least something a little messier and more complex about it: she’s accustomed to men paying for her, so therefore the prospect of a love match holds HUGE emotional heft and men tend to leverage that against her. Watching Lizzie deal with that -- whether her reactions are reasonable or not -- is intriguing to watch.

Whereas we were told explicitly that Grace was classy, educated, poised, a goddamn spy and yet she didn’t particularly seem to have much actual agency at all. Just poor quality singing and that eternally smug expression.

-maggie

#peaky blinders #grace shelby #lizzie shelby #we at tommyplum are not team grace #Anonymous

[tommyplum]

Hi! Just bc ive seen your tags a few times and im curious, (and sorry if youve answered this before) but why are you guys at tommyplum, not team grace?

We have not answered this before so no worries a’tall  XD

John and I have discussed this before so this is our joint opinion: neither of us found that Tommy & Grace’s relationship felt terribly organic or genuine. Grace isn’t a favourite character for us (the core elements of her character are appealing, but due to a combination of the scripting & the acting she’s just meh), and the huge, lasting importance she took on in Tommy’s life felt … unearned, really. It was a whole lot of telling rather than showing. 

It’s definitely within Tommy’s character to choose women who are particular archetypes because they basically serve as foils for whatever mental construction he’s got of himself at the moment (s1 when he’s trying to be seen as a legit player and semi-decent person, he chooses the madonna in Grace – hell, her name is grace – and s5 when he’s already gained that status he thinks he’s magnanimously helping Lizzie reform by choosing the whore, I mean Tommy’s not super subtle). Plus the women in Peaky Blinders are often given these tantalizing, meaty foundations and then squandered so there’s that.

But we find that Tommy and Grace didn’t even have much in the way of chemistry, unlike him and Lizzie; Grace was sort of bland and smug and didn’t particularly challenge Tommy in any compelling fashion, in our opinion. May Carleton couldn’t last because she was ultimately a good girl, and lonely longing + a horse connection can only go so far, but they were super hot together. Tatiana Petrovna would have been WILDLY entertaining and just when Tommy thought he might have had her figured, she would’ve tipped him arse over teakettle (she’s the fave round these parts). Jessie Eden was great but unfortunately the show would never have given her the proper upper hand that would’ve made their sexual relationship as subversive as it had the potential to be. More importantly, all three of these ladies had the chemistry with Tommy that Grace lacked.

Grace, at the end of the day, seemed like more of an aspirational idea than a real person. Which is fine and good within a character arc, but the fact that she was afforded such (unquestioned) revered status in Tommy’s life to the point where he’s conjuring her up in his mind as his conscience or truest love or whatever falls flat for us. 

Bonus petty comment: she wasn’t THAT great of a singer

-maggie

#peaky blinders #tommy shelby #grace shelby #we at tommyplum are not team grace #tommyplum replies #thank you so very much for this question!

[tommyplum]

- except one of them could actually sing and it wasn’t grace        grace shelby (peaky blinders)         quinn fabray (glee)

#peaky blinders #glee #grace shelby #quinn fabray #same energy #we at tommyplum are not team grace

[tommyplum]

hello there, lovely tag.

we are john & maggie, and this is our tom hardy appreciation blog!

what we do:

answer asks about tom hardy characters

write ficlets about tom hardy characters

make fashion posts for tom hardy characters

post pictures and gifs of tom hardy, also his characters

shriek incoherently about tom hardy, as well as his characters

various other content, largely peaky blinders, the terror, and boyd holbrook

we do not do:

imagines

tom hardy character x reader

real person fic (no moral judgement there, we just don’t)

welcome and please ask away!

about us: john is english and subsists almost entirely on tom hardy and fashion, two great tastes that unfortunately do not converge very often. maggie is canadian and was inculcated into tom hardy adoration entirely due to john; can also be found on her personal, bossymarmalade.

masterlist

visuals

sky mobile gifs prince’s trust, 2013 gifs cbeebies gifs (1), (2) the take, 2009 gifs interview for the revenant, 2015 gifs (1) taboo, 2017- gifs (1), (2), (3), (4), (5) peaky blinders gifs (1) rocknrolla (1)

venom: deleted taxi scene

. . . fashion: eames running errands with yusuf in mombasa eddie on a date with symbiote and anne fight night, modern!alfie solomons style eames on a night out with saito for .... modern alfie feeling sexy

. . . art comparison: pain and galliori, tommy hands and flameng, alfie divinity and marin, alfie portraiture and singer sargent, alfie pandora and jules joseph, ada

. . . graphics: lithomancy and aeration, tolfie the serpent was subtil, tolfie both good with mint, tolfie strong bone box, alfie the duel/the company, tolfie lethe, tolfie the only halo there is, tommy you cannot kill me, alfie

. . . miscellaney: birthday art for maggie from her sister glockgal  how will you spend christmas vacation? affirmation plate (tommy)

written

. . . [ peaky blinders ]

arbiter of many things, daylight among them  |  AO3 -  the morning routine in camden town

pbeebies: book one, lollypop syrup  |  AO3 -  mr. solomons reads the children a story

sugar feeds yeast  |  AO3 -  tommy and alfie negotiate starch and come away sweet (tolfie)

the king’s shilling  |  AO3 -  tatiana has things to teach tommy, if he’ll learn

crumb coat  |  AO3 -  sometimes a sweet tooth just won’t be denied (modern tolfie)

the midlands  |  AO3 -  no sense letting a perfectly good hotel room go to waste. (tolfie)

i am but dust and ashes (the world was created for me)  |  AO3 -  taboo au, where tommy is alfie’s half-sibling (tolfie)

mind the upholstery  |  AO3 - tommy can be very particular. not overly perceptive, though (tolfie)

**meme writing the devil never eats salt - amateur occultists au stop before i begin - dystopian bonded-for-life au tied my lead and pulled my chain - western/deadwood au 

**for the eradication of seemingly incurable sadness’ series aka the liquorverse (modern tolfie) - the liquorverse memes and scenes - tommy’s mixtape

tis the saison  |  AO3 -  holiday office parties are a necessary chore eggplant peach question mark  |  AO3 -  some days require sexting or your best approximation thereof margarita’s no good without salt  |  AO3 - alfie and tommy skive off work early to get down to business

transcripts: the gospel of alfie solomons & the ballad of tommy shelby

these fucking rhyming couplets made flesh (musings) we at tommyplum are not team grace / addendum  (grace shelby meta) . . . [ inception ] mine i’ll leave to chance | AO3 - yusuf/eames in mombasa  the time before that and the other time after  |  AO3 - yusuf/eames but what do you remember

. . . [ venom ] you’re burning yearning | AO3 - eddie brock/symbiote/anne weying symbiotic conversations (symbrock chat posts)

non-tom hardy content

. . . boyd holbrook: on ‘camp confessions with shannon coffey’ in the shadow of the moon interview on ‘the gate’ gifs el pais fashion shoot gifs two/one gifs (1)

. . . our rp characters-related ephemera: hardy & holbrook, fanart, b&w, hatfields & bondurants

. . . music: ten songs for ... (ten-song themed playlists)

fanwork recommendations

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