#xiahou ba

[exhalcyon]

I saw this tweet a year ago and it’s still perfect for them

#dynasty warriors #zhang he x xiahou yuan #zhang he #xiahou yuan #xiahou ba #zhenji #fanart

[mogu359]

真・三國無双８

夏侯淵と夏侯覇 2019 まとめ３

#無双フォト #DYNASTY WARRIORS #夏侯淵 #Xiahou Yuan #夏侯覇 #Xiahou Ba

[romance-of-three-memes]

Xiahou Ba when he realized he'd probably be in trouble if the Sima caught him during or after their coup since he was a relative of the Cao clan and affiliate to Cao Shuang:

#xiahou ba #romance of the three kingdoms #rotk #ro3k #wei #history #memes #three kingdoms

[minchenpanda]

been thinking of making this for a while

#dynasty warriors #dynasty warriors 9 #zhuge dan #sima shi #zhong hui #xiahou ba

[the-archlich]

Do you think Xiahou Ba made meaningful contributions to Shu's military? How about to Wei's (before his defection)? Is he worthy of note, or is he another guy like Zhao Zilong who is prominent in fiction but didn't really accomplish anything?

Zhao Yun accomplished plenty. Some of his deeds have been heavily exaggerated in the retelling, and some people credit him with achievements that come from sources I do not consider reliable, but he still did plenty. Anyway . . .

Xiahou Ba served competently enough in Wei. He was particularly distinguished during the Ziwu campaign (230), and battles against Jiang Wei and the Qiang in 247 and 248 (at Weichi and Tazhong). He was well liked by his soldiers and also a close ally of the Rong people. It's harder to say exactly what he did in Shu, since that part of his life is very under-documented. Jiang Wei attacked the north five times after Xiahou Ba defected (at Mount Qu in 249, Xiping in 250, Nan'an in 253, Xiangwu in 254, and Didao in 255). Xiahou Ba was definitely present on that final campaign and it would be strange if he was not involved in the previous four. What exactly he contributed is impossible to determine.

#xiahou ba

[nymphilily]

This family is a nightmare

#If I'm going to be honest I think Xiahou Yuan is more likely to make this joke but Ba doesn't have a sibling #Sun Jian #Sun Ce #Sun Quan #Sun Shangxiang #Dynasty Warriors

[dongzhou3kingdoms]

Dynasty Killers Review

New book by Baptiste Pinson Wu, the third in the Liao Hua cycle.

As ever, good choice of poem to open. I suspect people new to the era will find the “whose who” at the start helpful, and Baptiste knows how to provide enough of a recap or sense of the world. But for those who have read the three books, there will also be little moments that pay off from the past as Liao Hua's world shifts.

A sense of things are happening in the elderly Liao Hua scenes, a good combination with Chen Shou while quickly building personalities of key figures around him. But the main focus is on the youngish man and his friends, the world around him changing. Each part has a big and entertaining battle at its centre, but not just the battle. It is the building up to it as pieces fall into place and people prepare, Liao Hua getting heavily involved with daring plans and actions and then dealing with the aftermath. As fun and varied as I find the battles, I am a bigger fan of the build ups and aftermath

Baptiste has a good touch for the little details about people and life at the time including geographical differences, good at quickly giving a sense of character and tweaking big historical (and novel) moments, so they feel fresh to read. It does go quite dark, particularly in part 2, so fair warning but it is balanced overall by a little bit of humour, kindness, crushes and love, and good bonds between characters even as events fray them.

It is also where we first really get Liu Bei and co as more than difficult opponents for an angry Liao Hua to face. There is always the worry that one gets either a Dynasty Warriors Liu Bei of vague motive and no brain, or a backlash Liu "the treacherous, dishonest failure" Bei. Here though is a Liu Bei I would be willing to serve, using the knack of seeing little acts of kindness and consideration, a sense of charisma about him to see why he pulls men together. I was really pleased with this version of Liu Bei.

Loved the ending.

More spoilery below

Part 1: It felt a little “scene by scene” as it moved Liao Hua around from place to place to meet figures before we get to Wan. I loved the scene with Liu Bei, a strong sense of personalities and use of passing history that mattered so much to Liao Hua. Having built up to a seeming cynical view of Liu Bei, instead we get one that feels like a charismatic well-meaning figure, one can see from the first scene why people might follow him.

Sun family scene, some good description works for Sun Ce's camp and people, I liked Lu Fan and Zhou Yu, will be interesting to see if we get more of them as time goes on. The adventure there was well done, and I liked the play on Liao Hua's love of older women with some reactions from his team.

The battle: nicely done on how Cao Cao messed up and the hinting that things will change for Cao Cao from there on out, which helps further build the sense of people changing. But also a sense of chaos and desperation from Liao Hua and others as things get desperate, which felt the right tone for that battle.

Part 2: Focus on Xiapi. Some good balancing of personalities within Cao Cao's army, allowing Liao Hua to build dynamics with various figures that he had met before. I love the Xiahou Ba connection past and future with the future events building a head of steam.

The famed scenes in that siege are done well and one still sees the sense of Lu Bu the powerful threat. But its most powerful moments are in the aftermath, it goes very dark and stuck in my head for a time afterwards (in the right way). There was one scene near that end I wasn't fond of but the general brutality in the aftermath scenes, both in the fighting and the disquieting celebrations was powerful.

Part 3: Guandu. We see a good mix of the brutal Cao Cao (dealing with the Girdle Decree comes to mind) that has Liao Hua considering his future. But also flashes of the old Cao Cao and, particularly as the campaign draws to a close, we see things knitting together from Liao Hua's time under Cao Cao. It does have an end-of-era in his life feel.

Yuan Shu's scene was sad and pathetic without feeling it punched down against the false Emperor, some sad goodbye moments in Liao Hua's life as we approached the end. I enjoyed Wuchao as a big culmination moment done with a bit of humour before the big fight. There was one goodbye that was particularly sad, and I really enjoyed the build-up to Guan Yu's journey, including building dynamics with new groups.

#three kingdoms #liao hua #fiction #review #baptiste pinson wu

[warriorsofhan]

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[bookofjin]

Tongdian: Introduction to Provinces and Commanderies, the Three States

[From TD171. The maps are intended as illustrations of the text. Some of the provincial information presented looks questionable.]

The Wei clan possessed the Central Plains. They had 13 provinces: Sili司隸, Jing荊, Jinghe荊河, Yan兗, Qing青, Xu徐, Liang涼, Qin秦, Ji冀, You幽, Bing并, Yang揚, and Yong雍 [1].

They had 68 commanderies and states. From the east, Guangling廣陵[2], Shouchun壽春[3], Hefei合肥[4], Miankou沔口][5], Xiyang西陽[6] and Xiangyang襄陽[7] had the main troops readied against Wu. From the west, Longxi隴西[8], Nan'an南安[9], Qishan祁山[10], Hanyang漢陽[11], and Chencang陳倉[12] had the main troops readied against Shu.

[1]They divided Liang涼 province to set up Qin秦 province, managing Shanggui上邽, present Tianshui天水 commandery. Yang揚 was seated at Shouchun壽春, the present commandery. Xu徐 was seated at Pengcheng彭城, the present commandery. Jing荊 was seated at Xiangyang襄陽, the present commandery. Liang涼 was seated at Wuwei武威, the present commandery. The remainder all followed previous eras.

[2]Emperor Wen in the 6th Year of Huangchu [225 AD] campaigned in person, and favoured Guangling廣陵's old city. When he turned around the host, he kept behind Zhang Liao to station at Jiangdu江都. After the King of Qi's Jiaping [249 – 253] era, it belonged to Wu. Precisely the present commandery.

[3]Guanqiu Jian and Zhuge Dan both garrisoned it.

[4]Emperor Ming's 1st Year of Qinglong [233 AD], Man Chong built a new city 30 li to the north-west of Hefei合肥. The Wu army frequently attacked, but did not take it. Precisely the present Lujiang廬江 commandery. For that reason, Emperor Ming of Wei stated: “The Former Emperor to the east set up Hefei合肥, to the south defended Xiangyang, and to the west strengthened Qishan祁山. The thieves come and are always routed beneath the three cities, the land is surely striving against them.”

[5]15th Year of Jian'an [210 AD], Wen Pin was Grand Warden of Jianxia江夏, and garrisoned here. After that the Wu army frequently attacked, but did not take it. After Qinglong [233 – 237], it belonged to Wu. Precisely the current Hanyang漢陽 county.

[6]Middle of Huangchu [220 – 226], Man Chong ordered generals to defend it. Present Qi'an齊安 commandery.

[7]24th Year of Jian'an [219 AD], Xu Huang defended it. The Shu general Guan Yu attacked. He did not submit.

[8]The present commandery.

[9]Present Longxi隴西 commandery's Longxi隴西 county. The King of Qi's 5th Year of Jiaping [253 AD], the Shu general Jiang Wei came to invade. He attacked Longxi隴西 and Nan'an 南安, in both cases he did not overcome them.

[10]Emperor Ming's 2nd Year of Taihe [228 AD], the Shu general Zhuge Liang attacked Qishan祁山 city, but did not take it. 10 li east of present Tonggu同谷郡 commandery's Changdao長道 county.

[11]Emperor Ming's 2nd Year of Qianlong [234 AD], the Shu general Zhuge Liang came to invade. Dispatched troops prepare at this place. Precisely the present Tianshui天水 commandery.

[12]24th Year of Jian'an [219 AD], following Shu's generals routing Xiahou Miaocai in Hanzhong漢中, thereupon ordered Zhang He to defend Chencang陳倉. 2nd Year of Taihe [228 AD], Zhuge Liang, with several ten thousand people, attacked Chencang陳倉. General Hao Zhao, with a thousand people, defended for more than twenty days, and he did not take it. The old city located 30 li east of the present county. He attacked Mei郿, and again did not overcome. The old Mei郿 city 15 li north-east of the present county. Both are in the present Fufeng扶風 commandery and county.

The rulers of Shu maintained order in Ba巴 and Shu蜀. They set up Yi益[1] and Liang 梁[2], 2 provinces, had 22 commanderies, and used Hanzhong漢中[3], Xingshi興勢[4], and Baidi白帝[5] together as the main garrisons.

[1]Seated at Chengdu成都, the present commandery.

[2]Seated at Hanzhong漢中, the present commandery.

[3]End of Jian'an [196 – 220], after routing Wei's general Xiahou Miaocai, they thereupon had Hanchuan漢川, and used Wei Yan to garrison and defend. Later Jiang Wan and Jiang Wei continued each other in garrisoning at this place. Precisely the present commandery's territory.

[4]The Later Ruler's 7th Year of Yanxi [244 AD], General Wang Ping defended it. Wei's Great General Cao Shuang attacked, but did not overcome. Present Yangchuan洋川 commandery's Xingdao興道 county.

[5]The Former Ruler in the 1st Year of Zhangwu [221 AD] stationed there, and thereupon made it a main garrison. The Later Ruler's 15th Year of Jianxing [237 AD], Wu's general Quan Cong attacked, but did not overcome. Precisely the present Yun'an雲安 commandery.

The rulers of Wu to the north possessed the Jiang, and to the south everything until the sea. They set up Jiao交[1], Guang廣[2], Jing荊[3], Ying郢[4], and Yang揚[5], 5 provinces, had 43 commanderies, and used Jianping建平[6], Xiling西陵[7], Lexiang樂鄉[8], Nan commandery南郡[9], Baqiu巴丘[10], Xiakou夏口[11], Wuchang武昌[12], Huancheng皖城[13], Niuzhuqi牛渚圻[14], and Ruxuwu濡須塢[15] together as the main garrisons. They later obtained Miankou沔口[16], Zhucheng邾城[17], and Guangling廣陵[18].

From three states' tripod establishment, they in turn raided and invaded each other, and exchanged victories and losses. In the defense of the borders, what was one or the other's territory was not consistent. To slander success and bring life to failure, then one does not have the leisure to live. Now roughly summarized their long past stations and garrisons and the lands of their strategic points[19].

[1]Seated at Longbian龍編, present Annan安南 office.

[2]Sun Quan set it up, seated at Panyu番禺, present Nanhai南海 commandery.

[3]Seated at Nan commandery南郡, present Jiangling commandery江陵郡.

[4]Seated at Jiangxia江夏, precisely the present commandery.

[5]Seated at Jianye建業, present Danyang丹陽 commandery's Jiangning江寧 county.

[6]From Sun Quan in the beginning of Huangwu [222 -229] routed the Former Ruler of Shu afterwards, they obtained it. Sun Hao's 4th Year of Tianji [280 AD], the Jin army followed the flow to come and invade. The defending general Wu Yan requested to increase the troops. Hao did not follow. Present Badong巴東 commandery.

[7]24th Year of Jian'an [219 AD], following the Shu general Guan Yu northern chastisement of the Wei general Yu Jin and others at Xiangyang襄陽, Lu Xun was made warden of Yidu宜都 and garrisoned this place. Beginning of Huangwu [222 -229], the Former Ruler of Shu came to invade. Xun greatly routed him. Later Bu Chan and Lu Kang both garrisoned here. Precisely the present Yiling夷陵 commandery.

[8]Sun Hao of Wu's 3rd Year of Jiancheng [271 AD], Lu Kang erected Lexiang樂鄉 City. Afterwards Zhu Ran repaired and completed it. Jin's Wang Jun attacked Lexiang, and captured the Controller of the Navy, Lu Jing. The General who Pacifies the West, Shi Hong, used the city to surrender. It is east of the present Jiangling江陵 commandery's Songzi松滋 county.

[9]From the end of Jian'an [196 – 220], after they overcame Guan Yu, the Shu general Mi Fang came to surrender, and they thereupon obtained it. Sun Hao's 1st Year of Fenghuang [272 AD], generals Zhang Xian and Ren Yan bother defended it. When the Jin army pacified Wu, the Marquis of Dangyang, Du Yuankai, proceeded to this place. Precisely the present Jiangling江陵 commandery.

[10]In 19th Year of Jian'an [214 AD] Lu Su, and in Sun Hao's 1st Year of Baoding [266 AD], Wan Yu, both garrisoned and defend it. Precisely the present Baling巴陵 commandery.

[11]13th Year of Jian'an [208 AD], Sun Quan campaigned against Huang Zu, and vanquished him, and afterwards then set up troops and garrison. Sun Hao's 1st Year of Tianji [277 AD], Sun Shen defended it. When Jin pacified Wu, General Hu Fen proceed to here. Precisely the present Jiangxia江夏 commandery.

[12]Sun Quan's 1st Year of Ganlu [265 AD], he walled Wuchang武昌. Lu Xun, Zhuge Ke, and Teng Mu garrisoned and defended it. When Jin pacified Wu, General Wang Rong proceed to here. Precisely the Jiangxia江夏 commandery's county.

[13]19th Year of Jian'an [214 AD], Sun Quan vanquished it. Sun Quan's 4th Year of Chiwu [241 AD], Zhuge Ke stationed here. Presently Tong'an同安 commandery. 皖 is pronounced huan患.

[14]End of Sun Hao's Tianji [277 – 280], He Zhi garrisoned and defended it. When Jin pacified Wu, the great general Wang Hun proceeded to here. Precisely the present Xuancheng宣城 commandery's Dangtu當塗 county's Caishi采石.

[15]17th Year of Jian'an [212 AD], constructed. Later Excellency Cao came again and again, he attacked and did not vanquish it. Located 180 li south-west of present Liyang歷陽 county.

[16]After Sun Quan's Jiahe [232 – 238], Lu Xun and Zhuge Jin stationed and defended it.

[17]4th Year of Chiwu [241 AD], Liu Xun with 30 000 troops regularly defended the border there. Present Qi'an齊安 commandery. East to west the boundary overlooks the Jiang江, it and Jianxia江夏 commandery's Wuchang武昌 face each other.

[18]Sun Liang's 2nd Year of Jianxing [253 AD], Commandant of Guards Feng Zhao walled Guangling廣陵.

[19]Their defending generals are likewise roughly summarized for those whose name is known. The remainder who are impossible to extensively bring up, they likewise copied these.

#td171

[yaka06210]

文鴦很高 夏侯霸想繞路

#dynasty warriors #Dynasty Warriors: Godseekers #Zhao Yun #wen yang #xiahou ba

[mogu359]

真・三國無双８

夏侯淵と夏侯覇 2019 まとめ１

#無双フォト #DYNASTY WARRIORS #夏侯淵 #Xiahou Yuan #夏侯覇 #Xiahou Ba

[romance-of-three-memes]

I think my favorite thing about the Jin faction in Dynasty Warriors is that Sima Yi's whole ethos is letting the talented, smart people run things, but then every guy classified as being affiliated with Jin other than Deng Ai and Xiahou Ba is portrayed as being some flavor of chaotic idiot. It's fantastic.

#games #dynasty warriors #i say this affectionately i love chaotic idiots

[lubusleftthumb]

#dynasty warriors #xiahou ba

[the-archlich]

Other than 263, were there any other period where Wei invade Shu?

There was the Ziwu campaign in 230, though it didn't amount to much. There was some fighting between Wei's vanguard (lead by Xiahou Ba) and Shu's defenses (led by Li Yan), and some operations on the fringes involving the Qiang (Wei Yan vs Guo Huai). The main Wei army didn't engage, however, because a month of rain washed away the roads and prompted them to withdraw before the battle got too serious.

There was also the Luo Valley Campaign in 244, which you can read about in my article on the Qiang Wars.

[memoriesofachicken]

Guan Suo jumps to conclusions...

Guan Suo when you encounter him as Xiahou Ba during “Find the Beauties” in Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends.

#guan suo #xiahou ba #shu kingdom #jin kingdom #dynasty warriors 8 #dynasty warriors #shin sangoku musou 7 #shin sangoku musou

[the-art-of-phwoar]

Has this been done before?

#dynasty warriors memes #dynasty warriors 9 #lu bu #yuan shao #liu shan #sun shangxiang #zhong hui #yuan shu #zhao yun #xu zhu #jia chong #xiahou yuan #dong zhuo #xu shu #chen gong #wang yi #xiahou ba