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katzeni · 6 months
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the 2015-2019 pipeline
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It’s a journey
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mysillyside · 5 months
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"Yuri or Yaoi fan?" Higurashi addition
Rika: I feel like she'd respond with something like "Mii... I don't read much of either ^_^ Nipah!" but internally she's like "I'm too old for this". I feel like in general she's one of those ppl who liked manga at some point, but now finds it and most entertainment childish and boring and would rather live life (a 100 years of not being able to escape a timeloop set in the same month of your childhood does that to a mf).
Satoko: I think she's one of those lesbians who enjoys yaoi better bc yuri hits too close to home (esp considering most yuri manga in the 1980s were set in an all-girls school and focused on very dramatic girl "friendships" that always end in tragedy). She eventually does switch to mostly reading yuri when she gets older.
Mion: I don't think Mion would have a preference for either. I do think she'd show Keiichi yaoi just to freak him out and see his reaction. I think if anything, she'd probs read het shoujou manga. (but wouldn't tell this to anyone)
Rena: She's on that yuri cocaine. She refuses to read yaoi bc she doesn't think the characters look "kyuuute" and she mostly reads yuri. Would probably call herself a himejoshi if she knew the term.
Keiichi: Doesn't know what either of these things are until his girlmutuals tell him. Gonna be real I don't see Keiichi reading romance in general, so everything yuri and yaoi related was shown to him against his will (probs by Mion bc she thought it would be funny to see his "live 1980s straight boy" reaction). He doesn't like either but if held at gunpoint and had to choose, he would rather read yuri.
Shion: I'm so sorry Shion would read yaoi and only yaoi. If Higurashi took place in the 2010s or 2020s, she'd call herself a fujoshi just bc she knows it would make ppl mad. She's the type of girl who'd say yuri is boring bc there's no alpha beta shit in it.
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kanonavi · 3 months
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hello tumblr user kanonavi who is 1/3rd of the reason i started rereading tgcf. i have come to collect my personal apology for the emotional damages inflicted upon me for the past 5 days. and i have also come with THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS (mostly feelings)
- icb i put off this reread so long hualian are so romance. theyre jsut Romance......... absolutely floored by every throwaway bit of dialogue they had....... in shambles forever....,
- sqx arc was not as painful as the first few times i read it bc i now stand with my cancelled wife (he xuan) I STILL LOVE SQX AND THEY DESERVE EVERYTHING GOOD. BUT HX WAS REAL FOR ALL OF THAT. i love revenge
- i wanna know your thoughts on ling wen bc u mentioned having mixed feelings on her but i loved her so bad all the way to the end so im curious ljdkdjf
- i am not immune to backstory arc pt2. read it last last (?) night at like 3am and cried myself to sleep its just so gutting every timeeeeeee.... the hc plot that builds in that arc is ofc one of my favorites in the entire novel though :')
- the chapter w the cave of statues took me like 2+ hours to get through because i was feeling so insane abt it
i feel bad dropping this block of text in ur askbox sorry. will leave it there for now LOL
Omg hiiiii tumblr user stardust-make-a-wish welcome back from the yaoi cocaine pit :3 I know you're here to collect emotional damages, but I must make it known that I'm not even remotely sorry <3
Also you should feel bad for yourself instead of for me because I can only respond to huge blocks of text with even bigger blocks of text, so (TGCF Spoilers Ahead) and also I am so sorry lmaooooo
UGH you're so right that hualian is the most romance forever they are just so *clenches fists and sobs*....... They're always there for each other and they're so in love and they've been through so much and I just want them to be able to rest because it's what they deserve.
I will never once say that Hu Xuan wasn't justified in everything he did cuz like. Shi Wudu had it coming what a piece of shit. But at the same time Qingxuan is my wife and I will not tolerate my wife being harmed. So like revenge slay yes but also I am still cancelling He Xuan and spraying him with the water bottle (even though he is already very very damp).
Yesyesyes Ling Wen. So my thought about Ling Wen is that she kinda girlbossed a little too close to the sun, but at the same time you look at her circumstances both past and present and have to understand why she did all of that. It already would have been hard enough for her to gain any kind of recognition as a woman, much less in the Heavenly Court, so her ruthlessness is completely understandable. But at the same time, I don't really think the Brocade Immortal deserved what she did to him nor was taking Bai Wuxiang's side in the final conflict a real cool thing of her to do. I can't fully be a hater though because her own thoughts about everything are clearly so nuanced (See: The final convo she had with Xie Lian about the Brocade Immortal, which I am still thinking so incredibly hard about to this day).
I think that Ling Wen is interesting in the same way that I find other characters like Mu Qing, He Xuan, and Yin Yu interesting. It's in the sense that even if I don't really agree with all of the actions that they took, it's very easy to look at them and come to an understanding of why they did what they did. And I have varying degrees of like for all of the characters I just listed, but that doesn't change the fact that they're all Compelling. So it's almost like a begrudging respect that I feel for Ling Wen, if I were to boil it down into simple terms.
aaaaaaaaaa The Horrors(tm) :sob: Even though I could talk about Xie Lian's arc through that part of his backstory for a million years, you're so right that Hua Cheng's arc through it is also so interesting to watch. It really goes to prove that Hua Cheng is different from everyone else in Xie Lian's life up until this point, because yes there's the very obvious throughline of Hua Cheng wanting to protect Xie Lian (rather than expecting his protection), but even more importantly that feeling never changes even when Xie Lian has his mini corruption arc.
Like, Hua Cheng fell in love with the pure and virtuous Crown Prince of Xianle but not for that quality. Instead of being ashamed and looking at Xie Lian with scorn when he was like "What if I kill everyone actually" Hua Cheng is like "Then let me be your sword". There's the element of not wanting Xie Lian to dirty himself that Hua Cheng carries for the entire story but the point is in that he is not a voice who would tell Xie Lian to stop having those thoughts if it's truly what he wants (Unlike what his parents or Feng Xin and Mu Qing would probably say).
I'm going to write an essay about their character dynamic one day istg I am chewing through the drywall
The cave statues chapter......... *passes away*. Like on one hand that chapter is so funny because yes Hua Cheng is just an absolute certified freak (POV my roommate telling me earlier on in my reading that HC is a porn addict and me being like "pssht noooo" but then getting to this chapter several months later and being like "O h.") but on the other hand THE CONFESSION??????? Like. All I can do is gesture wildly at the storyboard animatic that someone made of that scene on YouTube while absolutely fucking sobbing. There is a reason why the cover of volume 6 felt somehow more intimate than the cover of volume 4 where they're literally making out.
Anyway I'm patting Hua Cheng on the head like It's okay buddy Xie Lian loves you because you're a certified freak, he's seen too much of this world to be weirded out even a little bit. Which is why those two are perfect for each other <3
I'm glad you had so much fun on your reread, have fun with the brainworms :3
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ambassadorquark · 8 months
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yeah yeah deadloch s1 ended with what could easily be read as a loose polycule situation and usually i love those i wish they were endgame in everything with a jealousy plot i just cant overlook the fact that theres like no fandom shipping energy for dulcie/eddie on its own they are literally bespoke top of the line dramedy lead queerbaiting yaoi cocaine but if it was two extremely pathetic women at least one of whom is even actually gay for real. Girl Yaoi. this is so fucking important. this is huge strides in femslash. we need to be making them fuck sloppy nasty crazy. let 👏 dulcie 👏 cheat👏👏
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jessaerys · 1 year
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I think what gets me about the popularity of mattmello as a ship historically tied to the late 00s early 2010s is that by virtue of how little background we get from the source material it is almost entirely based on 1. aesthetics and 2. speculation/fanon 
which like i understand (very common phenomenon. remember jeanmarco) and i am definitely not immune to fall out boy looking ass anime boys (specially at the time when i would’ve been like 14-16) but imo it is categorically the kind of engagement with a source material thats akin to me to like. coffee shop aus. more about coming in with pre-established tropes you enjoy and assigning them to blorbos than truly intellectually engaging with what makes the characters compelling in the first place within the narrative. which is a perfectly valid way to engage with fandom its just very boring to me
so like coming into the second half of death note for the very first time in my late 20s and having this wealth of more than a decade of fanworks to explore just makes mattmello so funny and absolutely baffling to me because on the one hand you have what is this very sharply written unique set up for this lopsided rivalry ripe with intense freudian issues and sexual tension in which both characters are bizarrely obsessed with each other. whatever crack cocaine they put in that one control room scene. yes yes the picture of you i keep on me at all times. dear mello. near threatening death note murder-suicide at the drop of a hat. the fascinating narrative cycle of juxtaposing a new generation of genius minds that mirrors light & l, separation by death but this time by working with each other rather than against each other, the triumph and tragedy of sacrifice in the name of the greater good, the endless ramifications of being shaped together and against each other for a specific purpose. one of them was always doomed from the beginning and it was never in his hands! it didn't have to be this way but it always was going to. something something about the inevitable downfall of intellectual twin flames.
 and on the other hand you have 60 second best friend anime boy who admittedly races cars and smokes cigarettes. which. to be totally fair. is pretty much two of the sexiest activities an anime boy can do. but my point remains
anyway you may think i am relitigating decades long shipping discourse but my actual real thesis for this whole post IS that i would bet real life money that 00s yaoi history would’ve gone down DRASTICALLY different if near had looked a bit more like a slut. literally. imagine if his character design was, like, a tattered wifebeater and some spiky silver chains. thumb rings. white shirt draped around his elbows (i also think this would solve 80% of the shallow "near is just a secondhand L" takes but this post is already too long)
anyway, tl;dr society if near had shown some shoulder
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darklightsworld · 5 years
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Unexpectedly long record of me diving into m/m novels, so the J key is your friend for skipping ^^,
I’m still not out of the Josh Lanyon m/m novels hell, and now I won’t rest till I read all her stuff - even though it takes a lot of time away from manga and anime actually ^^; She’s doing exactly what I miss in BL manga: crime and mystery. Tbh, if we had something like Shimizu Reiko’s Himitsu (or Joker Game for example), but with a real relationship and sex scenes instead of teasing, I would be the happiest BL fan ever... That was also the reason why I got Memento Scarlet recently, even though I’m not that big of a fan of Kusabi Keri - it was not bad, but just... not enough. Yeah, I know BL novels have more, I loved Aida Saki’s S series, but I don’t have time to read Japanese novels (which would take more time than English ones) and I want to have manga.
Anyway, it’s very interesting how I found my way to m/m novels. I’m not a fanfic reader. I like manga, and especially if it’s derivative works to manga and anime I want to have comics all the same. I tried Japanese BL novels, mostly things that were translated into English or German, but it was a mixed bag. First, Japanese narratives use a different structure than Western novels, this is the kishōtenketsu, and it might be a challenge for Western readers (actually this is also a reason why many manga endings seem unsatisfying for Western consumers), and among the licensed works there were some terrible ones too.
I’m busy enough with manga, so I didn’t really bother, but then due to the hype and the Japanese release it was impossible not to notice the Captive Prince series. I liked the novels a lot, but I was immediately turned off by the “fandom”, that was once again all about representation and what are people allowed to write in fiction and entertainment - and I was like no thank you.
Another time skip, and the next time I came in touch with m/m novels was through illustrations by artists I like, for example Scarlet Beriko, who illustrated an American m/m short story, Speechless by Kim Fielding. This is how I became aware of the Shinshokan‘s Monochrome Romance label, that has been translating English language m/m novels into Japanese, and then I discovered Mamahara Ellie’s manga adaptation of JL Langley’s Without Reservations, and it looked so nice I had to read the novels - and I liked them. I read some others by Langley too, but it was still very low key - I like her stuff, but she’s not _that_ good of a writer. Then I stumbled upon Eli Easton, as Mamahara Ellie has been illustrating the Japanese edition of her How to Howl at the Moon series. Another shifter series, but _dog_ shifters, and it was really nice. Another few months flew by, and then I discovered Easton had a new book out with a gay dad that’s always up my alley, so I though why not use my commuting time reading m/m novels? Easton proved to be a good writer, and I started to go through her books. Her thematic range is wide, so some I liked better than others (maybe I will make a post one day), but the one that was a turning point for me was Snowblind. Not my fave by her, mind you, but it’s a spy/action/crime novel, and I realized I need more of that.
I have always been a fan of crime/mystery, I prefer it in movies, tv series to other genres, but strangely my (general) novel consumption was kind of lacking of that. Now I don’t really want to read anything without m/m, so crime/mystery m/m was what I wanted. Actually Monochrome Romance has brought over such author, Josh Lanyon, who I wanted to check out, because her books seemed successful, but I was actually reluctant because of the male penname. I know some value m/m by male authors more, because they think it’s more authentic and representation and whatever, but for me it works the opposite way, because m/m is the same as BL: fantasy for women usually by women. If I read m/m novels (or BL manga for that matter) I want to have a good narrative, interesting characters and relationships and good romance and sex doesn’t hurt either. Of course some realism is good, but I don’t care about representation and how well gay guys can identify with it, because this is not the genre for that, if I wanted that I would read gay novels. I’m not saying male authors can’t write good m/m novels, but if they don’t abide by the rules of the genre than they are in the wrong genre, that’s all. I was actually surprised just how much the discourse around m/m novels mirrors BL manga, especially that “scandal“, when Lanyon “came out“ as a female author in 2015, it was like yaoi ronsou in 90s Japan once again, it was ridiculous...
So yeah, Lanyon turned out to be a female author, but I only suspected after I got into her books, and didn’t bother to read up on her until much later - her novels immediately convinced me, so I didn’t care about her being male or female anymore. I started with the All’s Fair trilogy, and I was done in completely. She’s doing just what I always wanted to have. Policemen, FBI, crime, mystery, action, interesting cases, characters, who also get it on (latest at the 50% mark XD). Since then I have been working myself through her catalog, and I won’t rest till I read everything. She’s very prolific (or rather she has had a long career), mostly crime/suspense/mystery, but she does interesting excursions to other genres. Even her short stories of 50-100 pages can convey more than others in 200-300 pages, albeit she’s famous for abrupt ending without epilogues - some of that is salvaged by her holiday codas. What I like about Lanyon, that she can write damn well! Her books raised the bar for me in m/m novels immensely, and it’s a real pity that some of the Lanyon books will never reach a wider audience because of m/m (same as with BL manga). The language, the atmosphere, the composition of the plot... everything.
Her novels are mostly a hit for me, and there are a lot for me in the amazing category, but even among those there are some which blew me away. The reason for this post is such a book I just finished yesterday: Stranger on the Shore. I was totally done in by that book, I finished it in the morning, and I was basking in the afterglow all day. Beautifully written, and the way the whole truth is revealed to our more and more reluctant protagonist is amazing - it is all the more better, because the reader can guess one major point and observe the (self)discovery of the protagonist, and you just can’t help but love Griff... Another, shorter novel that had the same (or even bigger) effect on me is Come Unto These Yellow Sands. I love Swift, once celebrated poet, son of celebrated poets, recovering cocaine addict clean for six years. His struggle for a normal life and then to stay clean was palpable, his vulnerability and strength wrecked me to the extent I couldn’t fall asleep and had to read more.
Yeah, Lanyon has some very good novels, and I’m glad I discovered her stuff. Currently I’m looking forward to the fourth book in The Art of Murder series supposed to be out this month, another fave of mine with hardened Sam Kennedy and reckless Jason West - also part of the FBI universe, so I kind of hope for a check-in with either Elliot or Tucker, since Sam was supposed to leave for Seattle in book three... But anyway, too much to swoon about here, so I will leave it for another post.
Well, originally I just wanted to gush about Stranger on the Shore, but it ended up to be something else, oh well ^^;;;
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