Thought, Mathew Rhys (who I admittedly only know as Belos in The Owl House) would be really good as either Burton or Dee in an animated adaptation of CotIG. Dee more so…evil. Possibly. Probably other possibilities, but that’s the ones coming to mind. Such a good voice.
make of that what you will
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Still annoyed by how the latter half of JLD portrayed Zee as an incompetent leader who made some outright dumbass decisions while in charge.
As a palate cleanser, here are some tidbits from Justice League of America Vol 1 Annual #1 written by Paul Levitz and Len Wein and pencilled by Rick Hoberg and her decisions weren’t disastrous.
This was from the period where Zee was elected chairwoman of the League:
Oh hey look, it’s Commissioner Gordon on the Watchtower, you don’t see that every day. What could he be there for?
(This is from the period where Batman left the League to form the Outsiders but given that he formed the Outsiders to do *more* crime fighting, the fact that Gordon had to go to the League because he couldn’t get in touch with Batman is doubly ironic.)
Also, pretty cool how Gordon is known and respected even by the JLA.
So Zee splits the team into groups and they go investigate the missing artists. Not everyone is too keen on her calling the shots though:
Why Ollie? Why? Sadly, Ollie doesn’t do much in this annual besides whining and being a jerk.
But turns out she was right and it turns out Destiny is pulling out nightmares from artists brain and materializing them in to the real world.
Diana on the other hand, is more supportive Zee’s decisions:
Oh hey look! It’s John Stewart!
John teaming up with the League during the Satellite era was rare but always welcome. As a DCAU fan, he will always by *my* Green Lantern.
After confirming Destiny’s involvement, Zatanna, Red Tornado and Elongated Man chase him into the Dreaming (a much less exciting place before Neil Gaiman joined DC):
One of the main sub plots of the annual is Zee’s sometimes mentor/detective Ralph having a crisis of confidence:
Zatanna summons the rest of the League and they head to confront Destiny at his HQ:
Also shout out to penciller Rick Hoberg here; the League is flying or running towards their target but he gives each member a distinct pose that reflects their personality. Zatanna and the Hawks are soaring through the air while John and Red Tornado are darting through the air laser focused on their target while Firestorm’s pose falls somewhere in the middle. (Also it’s funny how the Atom is on Firestorm’s shoulder seemingly rooting for him to go faster.) Even the running poses are different from each other; Flash’s pose looks like a homage to his debut comic cover, Diana is more casual while Aquaman looks more determined whilst Ollie looks like he is oogling Dinah who seems to be doing her best to ignore him.
The League takes the fight to Dr Destiny’s HQ but it doesn’t go as planned:
He defeats the League in a way that makes me think the League all probably collectively agreed to never speak of again:
“Giant monster.”
“So how did Destiny take down all of you again?”
“Yep, giant monster.”
“He had big fangs.”
“Don’t forget the horns.”
“And the spikes.”
“Practically untouchable.”
“It was too powerful for us to even comprehend!”
(I’m also going to head canon this as Destiny having more power in the Dreaming.)
Unbeknownst to him however, Ralph has managed to free the original Jack Kirby Sandman, Garret Sanford. Side note: He is the guy who passed the mantle to Hector Hall who was the Sandman who was being manipulated by Brute and Glob before being “freed” by Neil Gaiman’s Sandman.
Destiny’s characterization here; his hatred for the League, unable to dream which in turn turned him into a withering husk because of it and usurping the power of Sandman has echoes of his story arc in Gaiman’s Sandman. The latter was more impactful but I wonder if he drew inspiration from this annual?
Sandman calls in the cavalry in the form of Superman
and takes on Dr Destiny again and in probably one of the funniest moment of this annual:
So how did they escape?
Ralph: The MVP.
Later, the League offers membership to Sandman who turns it down. Also, turns out Superman’s dreams are special:
So there you have it; Zee was a competent chairman, Ralph got his confidence back by being the MVP, John Stewart finally got some lime light and Superman dreams about ~peace~.
Honestly, wouldn’t mind a variation of this story but with the League meeting Morpheus.
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Hi ! For the Character Opinon Bingo : Dee, Desire and that guy who say no i won't die (can't remember his name)
i have not read any other comics with dee/dr destiny in them (i have a vague recollection of him being in the jl dark film, and his justice league episode was pretty good) anyway he's a pathetic little man but not in a blorbo way just generally. weird soggy rat of a man. would examine him in laboratory conditions.
idk if desire is overhyped or if i just wish that the more interesting endless got more focus, they're kinda needlessly built up as a big villain and rival to dream with all sorts of schemes that will ultimately put him at odds with dream, and while the subversion of that is cool and what we see of their schemes in flashback issues (nada, 3 sep & a jan, and so on) is really good, idk i just don't really feel strongly towards them much :/
hob! hob my beloved he's a true blorbo if ever i saw one, i wish we got more time but i do feel like he's well served by the story when he's in it! and!!!! i am looking forward to getting more of him in the show, since presumably Men Of Good Fortune will be a full 45ish min episode rather than a 24ish page comic so there will be much more space for him to be being pathetic and sad all across history!
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