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“Behind the Scenes” with Lana Turner & Gene Kelly
Bound to be fun behind scenes when two top drawer filmsters like Lana Turner & Gene Kelly are there. MLs photog snapped ‘‘em during a have you heard this one session before Academy night appearance at Hollywood bowl. Lana was narrator to Pinocchio’s score played by bowl orchestra. Gene gave out some of his nifty song and dance numbers…
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note: i have been talking about this movie so much on here and i am so happy it is finally getting the recognition it deserves. manifesting a nomination <3
#strange way of life#extraña forma de vida#pedro pascal#ethan hawke#pedro almodóvar#bts#behind the scenes#oscars#shortlist#news#oscar shortlist#academy awards
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not to be negative but life will become so much more beautiful when kpop agencies finally accept that the academy doesn't give 2 flying fucks about kpop and stop trying to please the american market only bc they hope they can get their groups/idols to win a grammy
#like yes i would LOVE to see kpop artists being nominated and winning a big award like that#but so many groups/idols submitted this year and not even ONE of them got nominated even for the smaller awards like 💀#the academy doesn't care#they only wanted bts at their peak for the clout#and now that bts is on hiatus they went back to not giving a shit#🌙.txt
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Black History Fact: Scammy’s Edition
In the entire history of the Grammy’s (66 shows) only 11 Black artists have won Album of the Year. And only 3 of those have been Black women. And only 1 hip-hop/rap album has won that category.
We have yet to see Beyonce, Solange, Usher, Mariah, Anita, Missy, Mary J, Toni, TLC, Janet, Rihanna.
And we will never see the likes of Luther Vandross, Prince, Lisa Left Eye, and many more.
Every modern music genre is made by us and yet only 11 Black people, specifically African American, have won and most of them only have 1 AOTY.
Stevie Wonder is the only black person to have 3, surpassed by 2024’s AOTY winner.
It’s very clear what’s going on…
I understand why Kanye pissed on that $15/30 trophy
I am mind blown. 66 years, 11 artists and that’s taking in consideration that everything before and during Jim Crow was an era of not even allowing Black people at these awards. So as always white folks have had a step ahead cause Duke Ellington, Ma Rainey and Cab Calloway would have smoked back then.
Being Black is a highly specific level of Surrealism.
#black history month#preacha plym#atp it’s a popularity test and probably some financial scheming#and honestly i don’t think streams can count towards if a album was genuinely liked#we need to go back to physically buying albums#also i did not know the adademy was made up of other artist#is thought it was made up of music experts#and i mean like academics of a genre#i seee why no body watches them#and even if bts did win one i think it would be out of annoyance#like the academy would give them a shut up award#that way they’d never have to award them again
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The Grammy's - Part Two
Part 1 l Part 3
The GRAMMY’s.
The Grammy Awards are awards presented by the Recording Academy of the United States to recognise “outstanding” achievements in the music industry…if you believed what you read on Wikipedia and if you didn’t see the artists who had brought exceptional change to the music industry like Lana Del Ray, Ariana Grande, Nicki Minaj, Katy Perry and even Diana Ross.
BTS were included in that list of people who had changed the music industry, had made Billboard change their rules every time they brought out a new single or album, had streaming numbers no one else had and yet for all the Grammy nominations, performances and making an appearance, there was no Grammy.
Until they had received a notification from Bang-PD to their phones, though five of those messages had been delayed in getting to their recipients.
Grammy Nominations have come through - Grace has got 3.
7 Rings - Record of the Year
In My Head - Album of the Year
7 Rings - Best Pop Solo Performance.
Each had a different reaction to the news, which was understandable. At first, there was elation over the fact that at least one of them got a Grammy nod, second was amazement that she had scored three big major categories and then worry mixed in with disappointment. Why hadn’t they had the nomination? Whether solo or as a group, the Grammy’s had left a bitter taste in their mouths.
Namjoon, Yoongi and Seokjin knew Grace would flat-out refuse to perform or even go to the awards. They knew her back to front - her loyalty stood with the group and if they weren’t getting a nomination, then neither would she.
However, this was a defining moment in her career, their careers, their history and for the country.
And for those who knew what kind of start Grace had, this would be the perfect way to celebrate that career.
She started as an admin assistant, straight out of school and into employment with Big Hit Entertainment who then saw that she could do ballet dancing, and ballroom dancing, who could sing though that skill was untouched, spoke perfect English, could speak German as well and had all the charm of an idol.
Yet there was no place for her.
Everyone knew Bang PD wanted a hip-hop group and that’s what he started with in Namjoon, then Yoongi and Hobi. Grace was added as a backup for the ability to sing their ad-libs and rap alongside them without any problem. Then along came Seokjin & Jungkook, Taehyung and Jimin and suddenly they were an idol group.
A woman shouldn’t be doing hip-hop with a boy group and so she had signed a two album contract which had left her on tenterhooks as to whether all the skills she had gained while working with Bangtan Sonyeondan would now be worthless. But along came Skool Luv Affair and Dark & Wild and everything fell into place.
Now they couldn’t see the group without their eldest member, the only female, their noona. The woman who protected them in every sense of the word and who had always been there for their solo projects and careers. Her own started very late after their military careers had started so she had full reign of being the BTS representative.
If her upcoming tour was a testament to how well her solo career had taken off, then a Grammy nomination would just solidify that.
Updates were coming in every day and then it was the date of the Grammy Awards themselves. Jungkook, Jimin, Taehyung, Namjoon & Yoongi were given special permission for absence of leave for two days so Seokjin planned a private viewing party just for the boys, their close friends who knew Grace as well and some of their team.
Seokjin had been up till late preparing snacks and food as the Grammy’s would start at 10am their time. There was plenty of alcohol covering his kitchen counter and there was food everywhere when Hobi had arrived first.
“Hyung, have you been stress cooking again?”
Seokjin paused where he was putting out plates and cups, chilling the expensive alcohol that had been gifted to him by someone and making sure there was enough kimchi in the container. Multitasking at its finest.
“Maybe? I can’t help it. I’m nervous, more for Grace than anyone else.”
Hobi sighed, having had the same conversation with every other member of the team and Grace herself. She had massive reservations about attending and performing, believing it all to be a big farce so they could have big viewing numbers.
“I know, but noona will be fine. She’s a lot stronger than us and a loss at the Grammy’s won’t affect her like it did us. As she said, as long as her performance is killer, who cares.”
Nothing more could be said as the front door opened and the rest of his boys poured through, Jungkook first then the rest following with bags of more food and alcohol.
“How drunk are you all getting?” Hobi laughed, receiving hugs and pats on the back as he looked at the various sized bags that were being dumped in the kitchen.
“It would have been more but Yoongi-hyung stopped us,” Taehyung shrugged as he dropped his bag and then lifted his arm, flexing it to show off his muscles which caused Jimin to roll his eyes and push at him. “We’ve all got muscles. It hasn’t been that long since Hobi-hyung has seen us.”
“Are you feeling okay?” Yoongi and Namjoon asked Seokjin at the same time, causing the two to pause, look at each other then back at their hyung.
Jungkook, while looking every inch the military man he had become, had wrapped his arms around Seokjin and pushed his face into his back.
“Nervous,” Seokjin admitted while patting Jungkook’s hands. “I’m more nervous for her than about the whole thing. But I know she can handle it. It’s just a big thing.”
“For everyone,” Namjoon smiled slightly and reached over to give Seokjin’s shoulder a squeeze, causing the man to squawk at how strong that grip had become. “Ah, sorry hyung.”
“Come on, let’s get the TV sorted before everyone else comes. And start cracking the bottles open hyung, let the champagne breathe before we get started,” Yoongi grinned as he took control of the situation, shooing people to start doing jobs.
Even though it was early in the morning and most people had been up all night working, everyone was in bright spirits as the coffee churned. The living room was filled with about 20 people, some on the couch, some on the floor, some on chairs they had brought over. Jungkook had even stolen the spare mattress in the other room and had laid it out on the floor for some.
BTS, however, had taken control of the couch.
They barely listened to the people talking on the screen as they all settled down with their various glasses of drink though Seokjin, Hobi and Namjoon had stuck to iced coffee for now. They wanted to be sober enough to get to her performance before drinking any type of alcohol.
Their phones went off at the same time.
“Oh my god, look at her!”
Taehyung lifted his phone up and began showing it around to the others. Sejin had sent a picture of Grace between her parents, dressed in her Elie Saab dress and made up to the nines as her father stood in a suit to her left and her mother stood to her right in a gold dress. They all matched perfectly to what Grace was wearing.
Messages quickly flew out of good luck, hope it all goes well, kill the stage, etc. None were read by Grace but Sejin sent a thumbs up emoji back with a winky face.
There was silence in the room as they watched the red carpet, pointing out the various celebrities they knew of or had met. They had immediately spotted Liam McEwan, one of the reporters who they actually liked. And then they saw Bang PD step out of the car with Grace’s parents, a member of staff leading them past the red carpet and inside.
“Here we go,” Seokjin muttered as Namjoon’s hand squeezed his shoulder again, a bit more gently this time.
The noise from the crowd was instantaneous.
Hands reached forward for the remote control to turn down the volume a bit as screams were heard, many heads turned as the camera switched to Liam McEwan. “Everybody, Grace Chu from BTS has arrived! The queen is here.”
The boys held their breath until the camera caught up with where it was meant to be, showing Grace in front of the Grammy backdrop, cameras flashing in her eyes as she smiled for the photographers. The dress sparkled each time the camera flashed and then she was moved along, straight towards Liam.
“Seee! Told you she could do it,” Yoongi said as he raised his glass of whiskey, not at all a bit tipsy as Jungkook reached over and filled it up for him. When did he get started on that?
“She hasn’t even gotten inside yet hyung,” Jimin laughed, already opening another bottle of champagne as if Grace had already won her three awards and had been crowned Queen of Korea.
Seokjin and Namjoon as well as Hobi, the only three who had been determined not to drink until the end, slowly sipped on their iced coffee and laughed as they watched an excited maknae open Taehyung’s bottle of wine for him.
“But she’s won everyone over! I mean, that dress is amazing on her,” Taehyung said as he stood, pushing over Jimin who spilled himself into Hobi’s lap. Obviously, a career in the military had done nothing to dampen their enthusiasm.
Taehyung stood next to the large TV screen, pointing at various parts of her dress. “I mean, it’s pretty low. I wonder who signed that off but either way, she looks amazing. And look! Cleavage! No one has seen noona with cleavage yet.”
Yoongi groaned, covering his eyes. “Don’t mention Grace and cleavage in the same sentence. I’m not drunk enough yet.”
Seokjin hid a grin behind his hand and tried not to chuckle, ignoring Hobi who was cackling into his back and Namjoon who stood ready to defend his noona’s honour until he was pulled back down.
“What?” Taehyung asked, grinning. “Okay, okay. But this is history in the making here. She’s got everyone eating out of her hand already and she’s not even inside yet. Is that Taylor Swift she’s saying hello to? Oh, it's Nicki Minaj. Ah, another collab being set up there.”
“Tae,” Seokjin started and threw a napkin at him. “Sit down before your eyes turn into the same shape as the TV. You’re blocking the view as well.”
There were plenty of voices who agreed with him as Tae pouted and sat back down, ignoring the maknae line’s giggles.
The next time they saw Grace was sitting with her parents in the main room, taking a glass of water and gulping it down before Sejin and the Grammy team led her away.
“Oh this is it,” Jungkook whispered as he somehow managed to squeeze in next to Seokjin. If there were two people in the room who were close to Grace and could feel her nerves from here, it would be them.
“Ladies and gentlemen, please give a warm welcome to 5-time Grammy nominated member of BTS, Grace Chu,” the loud announcement came.
“Okay. This is it,” Namjoon said as he went into leader mode. “Everyone shut up and let’s enjoy it.” Nothing more needed to be said as everyone went into quiet mode, 20 sets of eyes on the TV that showed a black curtain being lifted as the opening to the Sound of Music’s ‘Favourite Things’ was being played by a small orchestra, dressed in black dinner suits and dresses.
Jungkook reached over and held onto Seokjin’s hand tight.
Each light in the middle came on to show her standing there, in her blazer dress that was very short but presentable and caused some uproar from the boys the moment they saw it but a quick look from Namjoon and they settled again.
Her eyes met the camera as it slowly zoomed in and she gave a small smile as she started to sing, four female dancers walking on stage to meet her dressed in white suits.
“My wrist, stop watchin’, my neck is flossy,” Grace and Jungkook sang at the same time, though he did it under his breath as he watched the choreography on the TV. By the time the chorus came, the four female dancers spread further apart to allow the seven male dancers to come alongside though they were dressed in matching black suits.
“Wearing a ring, but ain’t gon’ be no Mrs,” Grace sang as she flashed her left hand, wiggling slightly causing Jimin and Taehyung to giggle.
There were more outrage noises when it came to the second pre-chorus, the female dancers were back as the lyrics “my smile is beamin’, my skin is gleamin’” were sung but instead of Grace doing the usual choreography that the boys were used to, it had been changed for American tv.
All five women turned and leaned forward, resting heads on backsides as Grace shifted hands to turn her head towards the camera as she sang the rest of the lyrics, “the way it shine, I know you’ve seen it” as her hand went down the thigh of the dancer who she was resting on.
“I bought a crib just for the closet,” Grace sang as she rightened herself, not paying attention to the crowd’s delighted noises or what her parents were going to think. Right now, it was a cause of getting through this song to get to the rap part and then done.
All dancers were back for the chorus and Yoongi, Hobi and Namjoon shifted towards the edge of the seat. They had seen the many comments around this song and whether Grace could perform the rap part live, since it was so fat, not realising she covered their rap parts with ease when they needed her to.
“When you see them racks, they stacked up like my ass yeah,” she sang/rapped, turning her body a little to camera to show her hand grabbing a chunk of her backside to match the lyrics. She then fully turned to the camera, the dancers in formation on either side of her as she continued the verse.
“Shoot, go from the store to the booth. Make it all back in one loop, gimmie the loot,” she continued as she danced her way through the verse without stopping to take a breath.
In complete jubilation, every single person in Seokjin’s living room sang along with her.
“Nevermind I got the juice. Nothing but net when we shoot. Look at my neck, look at my jet!”
“Ain’t got enough money to pay me respect. Ain’t no budget when I’m on the set If I like it, then that’s what I get,” Grace continued from where they left off singing.
The dancers all left the stage as the orchestra took over the last chorus, letting the song play out once Grace stopped singing. The audience stood, clapping and cheering for her and even though the camera’s didn’t show it, she did a full bow to the crowd.
“Okay, that was amazing!”
The alcohol was flowing now the worst of the nerves were over with and Seokjin happily accepted the glass of wine, Namjoon a whiskey from Yoongi and Hobi a washed down glass of white wine. All seven boys, their close friends and team lifted their glasses in cheers.
“Namjoon, you do it,” Yoongi said as everyone looked to Seokjin to lead the toast.
“Oh right,” their leader said as he stood, making his way to stand next to the TV where the awards were flowing.
“When I first met noona, I was a shy teenager who had no clue, probably like many of us. She didn’t care that I was into hip hop, that I had big dreams and that I wanted to be something. All she cared about was Namjoon - what did he want? And I never knew the answer to that question until the day she and I were out buying plants,” Namjoon paused then laughed when he realised he was getting teary as was the rest of the boys in front of him.
“She asked what I wanted? And I picked up this plant pot because it was cute. And I realised there and then, that all noona wanted from me was to be happy and if a plant pot made me happy because it was cute, then that’s what she was going to get for me. Seeing her come from someone who didn’t know their place in the world to now seeing her up there on the Grammy stage, I’m very thankful that I have Grace Chu in my life. So fuck the Grammy’s, who gives a shit. Grace Chu just made history!”
Everyone’s glasses went up with cheers. “To Grace Chu!” they all said then downed their alcohol in one go, only for glasses to be filled again just as quickly.
There was complete and utter silence when she didn’t win Best Pop Solo Performance, though Jungkook could see the storm brewing over his leader’s head. “Noona isn’t bothered,” he muttered as he pointed to her on the screen as she laughed and talked to her parents, completely unbothered by the fact she didn’t win.
It turned out to be a very long morning as each award came and went.
“The nominees for Record of the Year are,” that sentence interrupted all the conversations in the room, heads turning on a swivel to stare at the screen.
BTS turned to look at each other and as if they had the same thought, they each reached over to clasp hands. Namjoon closed his eyes, let out a breath and prayed.
“And the winner is,” there was a giant pause and Grace on the screen turned to her mother to say something before the answer was revealed: “7 Rings - Grace Chu.”
There was complete and utter pandemonium in Seokjin’s living room. Namjoon had fallen to the floor on his knees, Jungkook on his back. Taehyung and Jimin were hugging each other, Hobi stared at the screen in utter confusion and Yoongi reached over to wrap an arm around Seokjin’s shoulders.
“She did it, hyung. She actually did it.”
They missed most of her speech, only calming down enough to hear the last part of it.
“Holy shit,” Namjoon muttered as he wiped a hand down his face and stayed where he was. Jungkook grabbed hold of his shoulders and whispered hurriedly at him. “Hyung, hyung, look.”
On screen, Chris Martin from Coldplay was walking across the stage.
“No way,” Seokjin whispered as Yoongi grabbed hold of his hand, squeezing tight. If there was anyone who was important to the couple and to the rest of the band, it would be Chris. The fact he was there to present the biggest award of the night was not missed by anyone.
“The winner for Album of the Year,” Chris paused and turned to look at Grace. “In My Head" by Grace Chu, produced by Bang PD & PDogg from Big Hit Entertainment. Congratulations.”
There was silence for a moment and then a multitude of noise. Cheers, screams, crying, hooting, laughter and some kind of noise Taehyung had produced at the news. Each man had a different reaction as they watched Grace stand and walk up to the stage, greeting Chris the traditional way before hugging him.
They went silent again as Grace started her speech, each of them holding their breath as they were standing. It wasn’t missed that she had said her boys, ARMY and her man separately and for her to acknowledge Seokjin like that on American TV was another big moment.
Jimin’s phone rang just as Grace walked off stage and he quickly pulled it out, seeing Sejin’s name on the screen.
“Ah Sejin-hyung,” Jimin said while he put the voice call on speakerphone so they could hear their old manager.
“Grace is just coming backstage now so I’ve got you on speakerphone, one moment.” They could hear the tears in his voice over the noise in the background. “Grace, the boys are on the phone.”
They were all screaming their congratulations on the line and suddenly they heard Bang-PD on the line.
“Boys,” he started crying again. “I’m so proud of you all. So proud. I’m letting Grace have a moment with her parents but I just wanted to say I’m very proud of you all. Thank you.”
It was hard to even get their words out but there were promises for a celebration dinner when they got back and Grace would speak to them later once she got back to her hotel.
“She did it,” Namjoon whispered as he saw the notifications on his phone on various media outlets across South Korea and America reporting on Grace winning her two Grammys. CL, IU, TXT and others were posting on their social media, tagging BTS and Grace in their posts. Even Billboard had put up a post.
“She did it,” Namjoon repeated as he rested a hand on Seokjin’s back and an arm around Jungkook’s shoulders. Hobi joined them at Jungkook’s side, pulling Jimin and Taehyung in and Yoongi joined them by wrapping an arm around Taehyung and Seokjin.
Grace would return back to Korea, to them, as a twice Grammy awarded artist. And no one would be able to say that Korea’s Noona hadn’t broken the barrier that they all needed to be broken and no one could say that they as a group and individually weren’t leading the way for other Korean idols and groups.
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Last night was the most fun I've had in ages! Between the Oscars and the Kensington Palace nightmare, it was truly my superbowl but like my superbowl this year if you were a Swifty who lives in Kansas City. Just a night tailor made for me.
Here are my thoughts!
Kp press officer should be fired. They should know better than to release a photoshopped image without disclosing it. Like, that's the scandal. The photoshop isn't hiding anything, the trees are actually green, charlotte isn't wearing two different shoes-- they seem to have replaced Charlotte probably to just get a photo with a good smile from everyone. But when you're releasing a photo to stop speculation, you just have to do better! it's gotta be impeccable! loved kate's super passive aggressive "hope everyone had a nice mother's day" in her statement.
I think Oppenheimer won exactly what it should have (except for RDJ, which just... the academy needs to look to younger men. They love a starlet and hate a ... baby star man, idk, we don't even have a word for it. But they just hate nominating younger men and giving them awards even less!) It won a lot but largely in technical categories, which is where it excelled. That was fine!
The more I think about American Fiction, the angrier I get? I don't like that it was only partially a story about making black stories interesting for white people, and sold as ENTIRELY a story that would make it seem interesting for white people. The very best part of the movie was a domestic drama about an upper class black family that was struggling to be accepted by the mainstream. But like, the family drama was it! I didn't like how it was sold (but would white people watch a black family domestic drama? truly don't know!) and I don't think it should have been awarded for that, as much as I really liked huge parts of the movie and also Cord Jefferson's speech.
Emma was great, I wish Lily had won, I think Lily feels more like the center of the movie than the star of it, and the oscars love a physical performance. SHOW ME YOU'RE ACTING, either by portraying a real person or by using your body in weird and wacky ways. Ok!
I spent a lot of time trying to figure out how messi clapped and I saw a bts clip and it was his back paws and also was pre-taped.
Fashion didn't wow me but it's not really a Fashion night (outside of Colman and Sandra), it's a Glamour night, and there was plenty of that. I have the Met Gala and Cannes to look forward to Fashion.
Genuinely can't believe that Killers of the Flower Moon was a total shut out. It seemed like a masterpiece to me. What did I see that other people didn't get??
Overall it was a great oscars. Even without a ton of tension there were nice bits and good songs and it moved quickly and none of the technical categories felt draggy and it was just a lot of fun!
What a night!!
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I bet you're one of those armys who blame the industry for not sending jimin's songs to the EMA nomination the song which achieved much more than TXT's song but of course TXT can get the nomination but jimin can't all because hybe didn't send his song.
https://x.com/protectjimin13/status/1709941828949303393?s=20
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The first post in my Masterlist is precisely for people like you. People referring to Despacito and thinking it’s perfectly logical to apply a scenario from one artist, in another label, years ago, in another set of awards (VMAs vs. EMAs) to BTS in 2023 with nothing else to go on that could show the same happened with Jimin. These are the kinds of logical leaps that convinced akgaes HYBE was working with Billboard to delete Jimin’s D2C sales, convinced them that Jimin definitely wasn’t renewing his contract, and practically every other theory I’ve seen from that faction of the fandom since January 2023. Do yourself a favour and read it.
I don’t know if BigHit submitted Jimin’s work for nominations, but I do know the absence of nominations doesn’t mean his work wasn’t submitted. BigHit submitted BTS’s work for 2017 MTV EMAs and they were snubbed for nominations. Groups like Mamamoo and Gfriend were nominated instead, and no group had a bigger performance in 2017 than BTS. The same can be said for when BigHit submitted BTS’s work in 2018 and 2019 and both times were snubbed for the Grammys and some academy voters flat out said they didn’t think BTS got those accolades and chart performances legitimately. We know that Billboard published a hit piece that practically said Jimin’s chart performance was bought with Chinese money, and that NewJeans’ gamed their album to rack up streams. All the artists nominated this year are artists who had their songs sent to radio, and Jimin as we all know, for whatever reason, didn’t.
Regardless of what HYBE does or doesn’t do, regardless of what Jimin wants or doesn’t want, these awards are managed by third parties who have full discretion to toss submissions aside for whatever they think is more legitimate. I want Jimin’s work to be recognized and celebrated, but I also don’t actually have all the information, nor am I stupid or blind as to what is not so distant history for how the EMAs have treated BTS in the past. Stop spamming my inbox with your insecurities and anxieties and block me for your mental health.
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I know grammys had lost credibility over the years but I still had little bit of hope for the solo projects as academy has acknowledged the group works so I really wanted to see if they really nominate any solo works . Honestly I thought only seven could be nominated as it is truly became globally known but nope it didn't even get nominated so I now know 100% that golden will also not be nominated next year even though it it full english & I know the reason because the members are not from US or any English speaking country . It has shown its true colors now . I hope members take this as a painful truth & stop submitting their nominations now. They should call themselves an American award show only not the biggest music award show in the world . This has proved that it is just another American award show . (Yes I am bitter because it hurts that the member's hardwork & passion does not get credited by big institutions in which they submit)
The Grammys truly doesn't understand music or culture. nuff said.
Plus, there are better awards out there that do recognise relevant artists, either through nominations or awards themselves.
Hey, I think JK might be in with a shout at the Brits next year, particularly with his big UK push through Seven. Also, I think JK, Seven and Golden will win plenty of awards. I think JK, BTS and ARMY can live without the "Appreciation" of the GRAMMYS, can't we.
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I know grammys had lost credibility over the years but I still had little bit of hope for the solo projects as academy has acknowledged the group works so I really wanted to see if they really nominate any solo works . Honestly I thought only seven could be nominated as it is truly became globally known but nope it didn't even get nominated so I now know 100% that golden will also not be nominated next year even though it it full english & I know the reason because the members are not from US or any English speaking country . It has shown its true colors now . I hope members take this as a painful truth & stop submitting their nominations now. They should call themselves an American award show only not the biggest music award show in the world . This has proved that it is just another American award show . (Yes I am bitter because it hurts that the member's hardwork & passion does not get credited by big institutions in which they submit)
Hi anon!
Personally, I really couldn’t care less about the Grammys. I think over time the Grammys became about the Grammys and not about music. It doesn’t say much about how good an artist or their music is anymore, but rather on which artists are deemed good for the Grammys image.
I can image when young artists start out, they have dreams of winning a Grammy.. just because of the history it carries. It’s looked upon as being taken seriously by everyone and I think it must seem a justification of all the hard work and struggles they went through. Many artists have spoken out against the Grammys over the last years.. decade even I think.. big names even, so that says enough.
I hope BTS members know the biggest praise they can possibly get is that of their fans. No artist or band have accomplished what BTS have.. and that is a result of their hard work. It might not fit in a throphy case or on a pedestal or something.. but army’s dedication and love is their real price (and I think they know that… though in de past they might have been a bit disappointed).
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thoughts on the oscar winners?
I never saw the hype for Oppenheimer so the only thing I think I support their team winning is Cillian. He wholly deserved that.
RDJ was a career Oscar for a subpar performance and he is an asshole so I'm always gonna trash that; Charles Melton should've been there in general and Mark Ruffalo or Bobby D or Sterling alll deserved the award more than him.
Happy for Da'Vine, The Holdovers has a lot of BTS issues that make the movie impossible for me to enjoy now (director has been accused of assault) but she was great.
I used to think Lily was a lock (like weeks ago, based on her awards showing), but between reality checks from more (rightfully) skeptical poc and the fact that Michelle Yeoh won last year and Da'Vine won for best supporting... yeah. The Academy wasn't going to give it to Lily, even though she absolutely deserved it. Emma was being set up as the "palatable" alternative this entire awards season.
So yeah. The Academy is 80%+ white last I checked; they could let Lily get thisclose but they weren't going to let her take it. It's very grim.
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I just find curious how we got the "cope with it" treatment when we talked about BTS not getting a grammy and how "imature" we look complaining about that situation but when it came for their whiteys it is completely okay to hate on other winners, to question other nominees, how is good looking to feel sad when their fav artists didn't win and how media played them in a respectful and healthy way but we couldn't get to be sad because "it's ridiculous" and yes, hate is not good, no excusing that but people over exaggerate the hate some of those artists got at the moment in comparision on how much hate some artists are getting because other arist won the same category, but they are not calling them toxic or inmaature but they are looked compasive and empathic, BTS couldn't express themselves without getting laughed at their feelings but other artist could and everyone feels sorry.
We can't say anything about their hypocrisy because then "we are making everything about our favs", honey, we couldn't even talk at the moment but we can't talk now, but why not? Why can't we criticize obvious xenophobic and hypocrite reactions from other fandoms and the academy itself? The moment you can understand that even if they gae an award to a black artist and still be racist towards black people and asians then we could actually ggrow tf up
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I actually used to think they were real (and maybe they are?🤷🏾♀️) but this year, certain things about their relationship have seemed a bit contrived and pap-heavy??
I think Kaustin is real couple who love calling the paps tbh i noticed now shes nt papped as often (nt once/twice a week lik she used to b) n that may be since she has more events shes going to (this book awards with her mom, academy museum, etc), so her team prob dnt feel lik she need them now. She bout to film for a movie soon too so maybe once shes an "established" actress (whatever that means to her/her team and if she gets to that level) i feel lik she wont b papped as much (just imo).
I agree, I dnt see them as a couple who are "best friends" 1st. They seem to b very attracted to each other by all the Deuxmoi sightings saying that their always making out (lmao) bt it seems different from him/Vanessa who seemed like friends and lovers (this is based off of nuthing bt just a vibe lol).
Idk girl.... I can't really explain it. It's just a vibe that I get in my GUT that something is OFF about them. Not to mention, he's been losing weight this entire year, and hasn't even looked happy at times. 😔
The stark difference in how Austin looked last year vs. how he has looked this year is just crazy to me.
This year, he has not seemed like a man in a happy relationship TO ME. Usually when you're in love in a wonderful relationship, you're practically GLOWING. I don't sense that energy from him? But hey, maybe it's just me. 🤷🏾♀️
Look, I'm always 100% HONEST here on my blog about what I think lol. 😅 I just have to be honest about what my gut is feeling. It's the same "off" feeling that I had when Z was dating JE, and when Tom was dating Olivia. Like, something is not right. Something is OFF.
But hey, I could be totally wrong, and Austin and Kaia could be the happiest couple in the world! 😅 They might get married tomorrow for all I know. #shrug
I don't know a single thing about what goes on behind closed doors. All I know is the feeling that I get. His vibe with Kaia is totally different than his vibe was with Vanessa. And yes, I think he and Vanessa were actual close FRIENDS as well as lovers, and they just seemed more in tune to each other.
Not to bring up a whole lot of pics of "the ex", but these are just receipts. 🤷🏾♀️ Their vibe just seemed so much more in love, and just genuine imo.
Like I said, it's difficult to explain, but that's just what my gut is saying. 🤷🏾♀️
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BTS Tutorial: Discord
This will be my last "tutorial" for a while, as now is the time to focus on active participation for FACE. But before I put these little instructional posts to bed, I wanted to mention that DISCORD is a free communication platform. You can text, chat, share music, games, and videos once you get invited to go into community servers…
You can even apply to join the fan-run online school Bangtang Academy and learn Korean from scratch. Did you know about Bangtang Academy? (I don't have the time to study two hours every week right now but life goals...)
I digress...
A discord server kinda looks like this:
There are different communities and they have forums and channels where you go to discuss different topics.
I’m still learning how to use Discord, but I am slowly figuring out how to see BTS content with other fans.
So far, I've joined the Magic Shop, where I can stream BTS content with other fans.
There's also a Jikook community that just started up.
If you'd like more background on Discord, here's a video tutorial:
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Please note: This app doesn’t do anything to help your idol chart or win awards. It’s literally just a forum where you can safely share content. I say safe because folks have to be invited to join a server and it's unlikely to leak. This might be a better place to privately discuss things so that words like “hickey” don’t trend and make it into predatory K media.
Feel free to check it out if you like but no worries if not!
DISCLAIMER:
I am a Dope Old Person and have been ARMY since January 2022. So I still have a lot to learn.
I’m making mini-tutorials for people like me who are comfy with technology but totally new to voting, streaming, and buying Kpop stuff.
If you know of better, more up-to-date information, please comment or DM me so I can make sure I’m not spreading misinfo. Please be polite about it, though—we are on the same team!
Feel free to apply whatever you learn here to other BTS members and other artists; I’m Jimin-biased so I am focused on helping Jimin at this moment in time, but I’m OT7 so rest assured I’ll put my shoulder to the wheel for all our members!
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This still from the BTS feature really captures the mood I’m feeling right now! — Avatar is nominated for Best Picture, Best Sound, Best Production Design and Best VFX!!!Congratulations to the THOUSANDS of incredible people who had a hand in creating this film
#avatarfamily
I can’t believe I’m in an academy award nom’d film… whhhhaaa? My younger self is screaming 🤯 🥹 💙 🇨🇦
#avatar#Avatarthewayofwater#wayofwater#avatar2#oscars#academyawards
#Avatar: The Way of Water#social media#cast#Jenn Stafford#Alicia Vela Bailey#James Cameron#behind the scenes
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You said here that you think any kpop group that's nominated for a Grammy has better chances of winning than BTS. What makes you think that? I'm genuinely curious, because I don't really follow the award scene or listen to much kpop other than BTS, Mamamoo & Dreamcatcher so I have no idea what sort of industry politics or whatever could make it so.
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Hi @aijatar,
(Thank you for linking it directly in your ask)
This probably isn't the answer you're expecting, but I don't want to fully say why I think that.
The truth is I started writing this as a long post, linking in a couple of examples of academy voters and people linked to them (such as Budden), who have explicitly targeted BTS with dehumanizing comments. Budden for example has even said he has no problem with Asian singers but that he doesn't like BTS specifically. I also wrote about one paragraph on documented trends in Grammy award winnings from various American labels and the k-pop agencies linked to those labels currently (spoiler: not BigHit), and another paragraph about the peculiar prejudices BTS bears as the first real pioneer for k-pop groups in that institution. Plus a few other things.
But I scrapped it all because, well, a few reasons. One is that industry politics requires a villain or two, and I really don't want to get into the weeds of naming them. Especially since all I'm doing at the end of the day is speculating. Doing this topic justice will take far more effort than I'm willing to spend.
But it's also not really fair to you to not give any answer, so I'll say - I've written about BTS and the Grammys before (linked in my Masterlist here). The conclusion of what I said in that post is the calculus for BTS winning at the Grammys will always be different than it is for every other artist. If their history is any indication, BTS will always have to do significantly more than everyone else and then some, to get the same chances. And this has been true for BTS in Korea, and in America, so I just assume the same dynamics will play out again. This time around BTS has loaded up on more ammo than they did in 2022 with Butter, but I can't be optimistic for them. Because of all the above.
Of course, I could be wrong. I want to be wrong. This is one of those things I want to be wrong about, so fingers crossed that happens.
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