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starlight-bread-blog · 9 months

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The Adrigami Breakup Was Hot Garbage.

This is the episode where Adrien and Kagami break up. The reason why they broke up is because Adrien is Cat Noir and will always have to hide things from Kagami, and she's not having it. It's an episode about how the job of a superhero demands sacrifices, about how Adrien lost his girlfriend to his duties.

But this entire thing falls apart due to both Adrien and Kagami acting from out of character to infuriating. Adrien isn't actually shown to face these struggles as Cat Noir. We don't see him "being a responsible superhero" he's just goofing around and getting Ladybug's attention.

Adrien: Finally! Free at last! Plagg, claws out!

And here when Ladybug doesn't show up to their daily patrol:

AdriCat: So, Mr. Banana! Life's peachy, huh? *gets ignored*Peachy? Banana? Get it?.. Forget it.

AdriCat: So! Mr. Ramier! It's been a while since you were akumatized, right? Kinda miss being Mr. Pigeon? You haven't been feeling depressed? Or desperate? Or angry? Annoyed maybe? Not even a little perturbe?

Mr. Ramier: Thank you for asking Cat Noir but I am in the best of spirits, really!

This is the face Adriem makes after he says he's feeling good and isn't gonna get akumatized:

AdriCat (disappointendly): Well I guess I'm out of here then.

Mr. Ramier: Say hello to the lovely Ladybug for me!

AdriCat: Sure thing! If I ever see her.

Literally, this entire first act is establishing that Cat Noir is sad and lonely without Ladybug to the point where he wants people to get akumatized. Like go back and watch the episode this is insane.

Only after that we get to Kagami. And the relationship is.. off. Kagami lies to both their parents to buy her and Adrien time alone in the art room. She asks him to pose for a sketch, he makes a couple model poses, and the bullshit begins.

Kagami: These are all modeling poses. Try something that's more neutral, more you.

Adrien: What about – meow! *Makes a Cat pose* I mean, now? *nervous chuckle*

Kagami: No. You're not at all neutral.

Adrien: Yes I am, I promise. This is me.

Kagami (intensively): No. That's you when you're being silly.

She's downright rejecting his true self and being a control freak. Where did this come from? They used to crack jokes and have genuine fun together (ie Desperada). This is extremely out of character. But it's not over..

Adrien: What if when I'm being silly, I'm really me?

Kagami: *Gets up closer to gently make him pose*

Adrien's expression is.. um-..

Kagami: There. This, is really you.

Adrien: Do you really think..

Kagami: Yes. You're... perfect. *Leans for a kiss*

What does this scene tell us about their relationship? It tells us that it's toxic, that Kagami is controlling, doesn't care for Adrien's boudries and refuses to see who he really is. Which as I mentioned, goes against her characterization in previous episodes.

After whatever that was Adrien keeps getting called to his duity as Cat Noir. This back and forth continues for a while. But as we established, it's not a meaingful sacrifice to leave Kagami because being a superhero is just professional (and not so proffesional) playtime for him. And the episode keeps on reminding you that all throughout. We cut from Kagami being alone at a party they were supposed to go to together, to this:

AdriCat: Ma'lady, it's been a while since I had this much fun.

Ladybug: *Laughs* If battling a super villian with 3 eyes and a giant monster budy is your idea of fun, I can't imagen what your other days are like.

And in the same conversation:

AdriCat: You can count on me, and my jokes, Bugaboo!

Ladybug: Well, you don't have to over-do it.

AdriCat: The truth is, I only ever have this much fun when I'm with you.

And then he comes back straight to Kagami like nothing's wrong. She confronts him about his lies to her and gets akumatized.

Even when he fights Akumatized Kagami to save her, they still make a point at showing you he's having fun.

AdriCat: I can't wait to see what you're gonna do with a drone.

And his reaction after Ladybug confronts him about sacrificing himself:

Ladybug: Seriously you've got to stop doing this to me!

AdriCat: Yeah, but I can't resist this angry little pout of yours when you bring me back.

Excuse me?

And then, I am not kidding, while still being with Kagami, this happens:

Adrien: *Stares into the sky* Oh, Ladybug...

Plagg: Aww how romantic! I get it, even if I do love every cheese on the plate, I always come back for my favorite.

After fencing class they have the conversation. The break up is caused by Kagami not being not being able to trust Adrien. And this is how thw show, including Adrien himself, frames it too.

AdriCat: You know the difference between us and the rest of the world, ma'lady? We can't be completely honest with each other. We keep secrets, and sometimes we have to lie.

Okay, let's sum everything up:

He emotionally cheats on Kagami and is willing to admit it out loud with no shame.

He loves that subject of infatuation so much to the point where he's openly sad about monsters not attacking Paris.

Shows no remorse to leaving his girlfriend every time they are together, and very explicitly enjoys his time with another girl he's in love with.

At the end of the episode him and the writers push all the bs under the rug and claim Adrien is just following his duties.

....Wow. I remembered Lies being a terrible episode for Adrien but it wasn't until I watched it again that I've realized how much Adrien sucks. I am trurly baffled. Top tier character assassination.

And let's not forget Kagami. What the hell was that? Why did she act like that? Why all the sudden she's toxic and controlling?

Well, all of this nonsense is done to serve a very obvious not-so-hidden hidden agenda: Ladynoir good, Adrigami bad. The writers pretended to tell a genuine story about the duties of being a superhero but couldn't help but sneak in this horseshit. They essentially wanted you to subconciously pick up on what this episode is really trying to say: Kagami doesn't know Adrien's true self, she forces him into the "perfect role" and is incompatible to him. While Ladybug knows his true self. Therefore, Adrien can only be happy with Ladybug.

Kagami isn't controlling and incompatible to him. But that didn't matter to the writers, they have a message to put out. They had retcon her characterization to create a contrast that didn't really exist.

And this applies to Adrien too. He needed to be happy to leave his girlfriend to push the... "message". He needed to emotionally cheat on her like he did to push the message. He sacrificed himself so it would show his so-called love for Ladybug. He wanted people to get akumatized so he could be his true self with his beloved Ladybug. But all of these things don't make him to be compatible with her and destined to be with her, they make him an a$$hole.

And I'm not gonna buy into this message they snuck in there with retcons and infuriating behaviors.

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letizzydie · 2 years

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Bro probably thinks they dating

#adrien stan salt #heavy adrien salt #stupid mangy alley cat 🖕🖕 fuck off #chat noir salt #adrien agreste salt #adrien salt #ml meme #anti adrien #anti adrien agreste #anti chat noir

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empressofthesunslittlecorner · 1 year

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First Post: Let's talk about Isekai'd as Chloe

Isekai'd as Chloe is my most commented, faved, and followed story on nearly all my fanfiction platforms.

I can't believe this random idea I had someday had such a success.

The people under you who read the last chapter know that I have currently a love/hate relationship with it.

Under read more I will post what I wrote in the latest chapter in the author note and then we will talk about it a bit more.

This a short chapter because I wanna end this story soon as possible. This thing is my most read, commented, fave, and loved story, but I’m starting to hate it.

Do you wanna want to know why?

My other stories, who I write with the same passion, who I do the same thing, don’t get nearly enough attention!

AND I SEE THAT PEOPLE READ IT BUT NO ONE COMMENTS.

ONLY A FEW AND THAT’S AGAINST THE CLICKS I GET A JOKE!

And for this stupid crankish story a pulled out of my ass I can’t save myself from attention.

Not that I’m not thankful a part of me still loves this story and wants to give you an awesome journey to the end.

I’m just so tired and sad. T_T

I do the same work with all my stories, I write the same way, why is only this one loved and the others ignored?

I’m doubting my skills as a writer.

I’m doubting my own ideas.

I’m doubting anything.

I’m sorry that I’m unleashing this all to you, I just need someone to listen, to understand, to hold me, and maybe tell me what I can do to get comments on my other stories.

I’m just so tired and done with this story.

Some part of me wants to delete it and never work on it again.

But I also worked so hard on it.

I just wished my other stories would get the love they deserve.

Writing for yourself is nice, but when you see all the clicks and no comments you just want to cry.

Again sorry that I got so emotional, but I needed to get it off my chest.

Please enjoy this chapter, even if it’s short.

Maybe one day I will add a bit more to it when I feel better.

Right now, I just wish we were already at the end.

Happy reading my loves and again sorry.

Yeah, that's basically how I'm feeling right now with this fanfiction.

I still don't get how one of my fanfics can have such success and the others THAT I WRITE IN THE SAME WAY, WITH THE SAME PASSION just don't get recognized.

I see the clicks I get on any of them, but where are the comments?

Nowhere!

Comments are the lifeblood for us writers, we need them to see that our story is loved and cherished or else we start to doubt ourselves and think yeah, maybe I'm not a good writer, and my ideas are shit, and stop writing.

What is so hard to even write a good job?

It barely takes five seconds!

I always comment on the fanfic I read even if it's just one sentence. If I don't comment for a while it's mostly because I lost interest at the moment in the fandom of the fanfiction and read other things.

But when I return I leave again comments.

Come on people, it can be that hard to comment on a story you like!

It guarantees you that your favorite story gets updated and also finished, anything we want from fanfiction.

How many stories, so beautiful and amazing stories, are unfinished because they didn't get the comments they deserved?

Too much, in my opinion.

So as a writer and reader let me tell you, please comment!

Everyone wins!

Authors get their happy bust to write more and complete the story and the reader gets more of the story they love.

I can't see a problem with it.

Well, this is it for me for now!

Until next time and please...COMMENT!

#ml fanfic: isekai'd as chloe #fandom #fanfiction #female writers #comments #feedback #miraculous fandom #anti adrien agreste #anti chat noir #anti love square #anti miraculous creators #miraclous ladybug salt #ml salt #please comment on fanfictions #ao3fic

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lc-holy · 10 months

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Wedding

#miraculous #miraculous ladybug #mlb #ladybug #cat noir #chat noir #anti cat #anti chat #ml s5 spoilers #ml spoilers #ml representation #ml representation spoilers

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strangeandhollow · 3 months

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Part Ten

Nino is a Lukadrien Stan

Part Nine / Part Eleven

#miraculous twitter au #adrien agreste #alya cesaire #chat noir #ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #djwifi #luka couffaine #lukadrien #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #ladyblog #miraculous ladybug au #nino lahiffe #anti gabriel agreste #zoenette

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that-was-a-bit-stupid-of-you · 1 year

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Alya, teaching marinette how to drive: okay so you're driving and you see chloe and sabrina on the road. Quick, which do you hit?

Marinette: oh without question, chloe

Alya, rubbing her temples: the brakes, marinette, YOU HIT THE BRAKES

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flower1622 · 3 months

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These couples:

remind me of these ships:

#percy jackon and the olympians #percy jackson #anti annabeth chase #anti percabeth #annabeth chase #pjo #percy and annabeth #pjo series #pjo tv show #solangelo #nico and will #nico di angelo #will solace #miraculous #miraculous ladybug #ladybug and chat noir #juleka couffaine

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inimoo · 1 year

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marinette as cat blanc sketch 🕺

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous #adrien agreste #chat noir #marinette dupain cheng #cat noir #marinette #ladybug #miraculous fanart #adrinette #ladynoir #adrien #my (sucky) art #cat blanc #chat blanc #akumatized marinette #anti bug

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hi-there-buddies · 6 months

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I did this in two hours so forgive the sloppiness but I’ve come to the realization that the reason people don’t make agent venom fanart is because it’s a pain in the goddamn ass✨✨

Anyway here is Chloe Bourgeois as Agent Venom because I’ve been thinking of one of the many Spider-Man AUs of miraculous, and Flash Thompson is basically the character arc everybody wanted for Chloe before Astruc cast her character to hell❤️

#Spider-Man #ultimate spider man #flash Thompson #agent venom #agent anti venom #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #miraculous #miraculous ladybug #mtolbacn #mlb #chloe bourgeois #I love this au in my head tho #the hyperfixation is hyperfixating

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empressofthesunwriter · 1 year

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Isekai'd as Chloe

You were watching Miraculous Ladybug on your phone as your bus got hit by a truck. You died, it sucks. But a godly being gives you the chance to start anew in a brand new world. Sadly it's Miraculous, with all the plotholes, and flat characters, and don't forget worshipped while being a sexual abuser Adrien Agreste/Chat Noir. Could your day get any worse? You shouldn't have asked because you were reborn as Chloe and forgot who Papillion was. Someone wanted to see you suffer, that was sure! But you wouldn't give them the satisfaction. It was time to throw canon out of the window and make Miraculous a better show or in your case world!

Main Pairing: Reader/Luka Couffaine/Marinette Dupain-Cheng

26.06.2023: Here is the improved and longer version of the chapter, hope you like it ^^

Chapter 8: Noir VS. Blanc

“I should have now!”, you said under your breath as you run for cover to transform. Thank the Kwamis Chat Blanc was more interested in destroying buildings than hurting people, at least that. “I should have now Agreste wouldn’t accept that he couldn’t be Chat Noir anymore! Of course, Papillion would get to him.”

You finally found an abandoned alleyway and let Plagg out of your purse.

The kwami of destruction had his flippers crossed.

“Now, now, don’t blame yourself too much. Only Papillion is to blame here and don’t start with you shouldn’t have or you should have, we can never know what can happen.”

You blinked surprised at him.

“That actually was good advice.”

“Whatever, transform so I can go back to my nap.”

“And just like that it’s over.”

Still, you called for your transformation. You hoped Marinette was already transformed as you called her from your Baton to her Yoyo.

“Calamity, I bet you already know what’s up.”, greeted Ladybug’s voice.

“Difficult to not, when this crazy white cat destroys anything in his fucking way.”

“We need a plan before he hurts someone!”

“I have one.”, you told her with a sign. “But you aren’t gonna like it.”

“…How much I’m not gonna like it?”

“A lot, but Blanc thinks with his dick, that’s the best strategy against him.”

“What?”

You started to explain your plan. Indeed Ladybug didn’t like it, but after some good arguments from you, she agreed that this would be the best.

You bet she would take after this a long shower. Not that you could blame her.

As Adrien- no he was Chat Blanc now awoke today and didn’t find HIS ring, his whole world collapsed.

How should he now see his lady?

How should he now get out of his house?

How should he now live happily ever after with Ladybug after she finished playing hard to get?

Chat Blanc didn’t have an answer, but the purple butterfly, who hand flew in the camembert wheel carton in his hand did.

Maybe he and his lady were too hard on Papillion. The men seemed to understand what it felt like to be separated from your true love.

In any case, Papillion made him stronger than he ever was. He would hunt down with his new power the one who stole HIS ring and show his lady that he was still the best partner in the world.

Okay, maybe destroying some buildings wasn’t that good of an idea, but he didn’t have any other means to contact his lady.

And Miraculous Ladybug would fix anything, so there wasn’t a problem.

He was whistling a little tune, making his way to the Eifeltower, randomly destroying a building here, a monument there.

The screams of the people got on his nerves. Couldn’t they see that he just wanted Ladybug’s attention?

What did they need to be so dramatic?

That’s when he heard how two persons land behind him.

He turned around and let out a happy gasp.

It was his lady in all her spotting glory. In her Yoyo was tangled a girl, the thief of his ring.

Nobody else but this girl in a black cat outfit could be it.

A girl dared to still his ring?

What, did she want to be like Ladybug?

No one could be as perfect as his lady.

“My lady.”, he purred happily. “You found for me the person who stole my ring!”

Ladybug smiled cutely at him, his heart was beating hard seeing this wonderful smile on her rose lips.

“Of course, chaton. I know you would only take an Akuma to get your powers back.”, she said to him sweetly.

Papillion’s voice came into his head, commanding him to take the ring and the ladybug earrings, but he wouldn’t do this to his lady.

He just wanted his ring back.

“Give me this thieving girl, I will take care of her and we can be a team again!”

“This would make me so happy chaton!”, she declared and batted her eyelashes at him. Oh wow, she never has done this before. He felt himself turning red. “When I saw her instead of you, I realized how much you meant to me.”

“My lady!”, he gasped happily.

He took a step forward to embrace her when suddenly anything happen in a blurb.

The female cat untangled herself without problems from Ladybugs Yoyo and shouted: “Cataclysm!”

Her attack hit him on point and he fainted.

You stared down at Chat Blanc shaking your head.

Goddammit, he really thought only with his dick!

You were so scared of him, but in the end, he was probably the easiest Akuma in history.

“I can’t believe that it was that easy!”, shouted Ladybug raising her arms to the sky. “He truly is obsessed with me as you said.”

“Yep, let’s search for the Akuma and be done with it.”

You two got to work and found a little box in his pocket that was formally pulsing with energy.

Bingo, here is the Akuma.

Ladybug called for her Lucky Charm, which was a winner trophy, ha, then purified the Akuma and used her Miraculous Ladybug.

All was restored and good in Paris.

You hold her by the hand as Chat Blanc turned back to Adrien.

She needed to see this.

Shocking would be an understatement for what you saw in her eyes.

A lot of emotions were battling in her.

Finally, with a groan, Adrien woke up.

“Oh, what happened?”, he wonders. Then he saw Ladybug and turned into an excited puppy. “Ladybug, my lady, oh dear it wasn’t how I wanted to reveal myself to you, but at least you can give me back my ring!”

You so wanted to say something, but you needed to see if Ladybug would do the right thing.

“A-Are you out of your mind!”, she declared in disbelief. “Even if I wanted you back as a partner, Papillion knows your true identity now. You can’t be anymore, Chat Noir.”

“Oh…but we could be still a couple!”

Adrien got down on one knee and stared at her with a creepy look. He thought probably it was romantic, yet it made you wish for a shower.

“We will be like Superman and Luise Lane, doesn’t it sound delightful my lady?”

Ladybug blinked.

One.

Two.

Three.

Times.

“You…are out of your mind! You would just date me as a civilian, do you know how dangerous it is for you?”

“Aww, you are again, playing hard to get. When will you stop?”

Oh no, he didn’t just say that!

“I beg your pardon?!”, hissed Ladybug.

“We are meant to be my lady, you are the only one we can’t see it. With or without the ring, I’m yours, as I will love however is under the mask!”

“Really? What if I was Chloe Bourgeoise.”

Yeah, let her drag your possessing Chloe’s ass into it. Hey, you were nice now! What would it take her to see it too?

You saw for a second the fear in his eyes and Ladybug did too.

That was enough for her.

“Come Calamity. Let’s go.”

“Right behind, you L.B.”

With that, you both left the scene, before the reporters came to ask Adrien out.

Now that it was known he had been Chat Noir there would be surely a lot of questions asked.

You and Ladybug feed your kwamis and then transformed again.

It was Ladybug pleading to you since she needed somebody.

At that somebody was you.

So you hold her, while she cried over Adrien, probably in her mind regretting ever falling in love with him, with this creep who thought with his dick and had put her on a pedestal.

He never would truly love HER, only the made-up version in his head.

This was a bitter pill to swallow.

Even more, if she also realizes what stupid stalker shit she did in the name of love.

Sadly you couldn’t say these things, since you couldn’t know them without telling your whole story.

No, it wasn’t the time.

She needed to handle this first before you told her about yourself and how canon would have screwed her over.

So you just hold Ladybug in your arms, humming a little melody to calm her down.

You don’t know how long you two stayed like this. Time didn’t matter while you hold her. The world didn’t matter.

A meteor could come crashing down and you wouldn’t even take note of it.

Ladybug was a shaking and crying mess. She struggled to talk, she wanted to get her emotion also out in words, yet she couldn’t.

It was too much for her soul.

So you just shushed her, stroking her hair.

Your suit was wet with her tears and snot.

You never saw someone crying this much.

You had wished to save Marinette/Ladybug from trauma, from all the trauma she would have faced in the future, sadly you didn’t think that new traumas could take place.

You had a feeling it would take a long time, till she let anyone back into her heart.

But this was okay.

You would wait for Marinette till the end of the world.

And you know a certain guitarist would do this too after he meet her.

The sun was going down when Ladybug calmed down enough.

You both were sitting on the rooftop, she in your lap, hugging you tight, while you rocked her back and forth.

“Calamity.”, she rasped out. “I—Thank you. I…I needed that.”

“Anything for you.”, you simply said.

She signed and put her head under your chin.

“You didn’t need to do all this, yet you stayed without asking anything in return. You…you are a good partner.”

“I want us to be friends, L.B., if it helps you snotting all over me then, by all means, do it any day.”, you tried to light the atmosphere with a joke.

It worked since she snorted.

“Today…was a lot.”, she whispered, snuggling up to you. You hummed, stroking her hair. “I…I need to rethink a lot of things…I need to look at myself too…I did some really questionable things I realized, thanks to Chat—thanks to Agreste in my civilian life.”

“The first step to being a better person is to admit their mistake and work on them.”, you told her softly.

It was good that she realized what a creepy stalker she had been.

You have read before dying and becoming Chloe the theory that after original Chloe and Kim played this cruel joke with the spiders on Marinette, she become obsessed to know anything about her crushes so something like this would never happen again.

Well, one could understand her. She nearly drowned and if it wasn’t for Socqueline’s original Chloe would have posted online the cruel joke played on her.

Yet, it still was wrong.

Cool motive, but still murder, you know?

You hoped with all your heart that she would grow from it.

You were now back at the hotel, sitting on your bed, freshly showered, and thinking and writing down your thoughts in your little notebook.

Plagg was sitting like a king on a pillow beside you and eating 100 times his weight in camembert.

“What’s with that face?”, he asked you, gulping down a whole wheel.

How in the name of the kwami he managed that was the real mystery of life.

Where did all this cheese go in his little body?

“I’m just thinking.”, you answered him, scribbling down. “My memories I have from watching the show, and the memories I inherited from Chloe have made a little mess in my head. I forgot this girl named Socqueline Wang who was Marinette’s friend and stood up to the original Chloe. Today I remember her again. I need to apologize to her too.”

“Don’t worry so much about that. Sanura had the same problems. It takes a while before you can live with two mindsets and remember things right.”, he told you.

Curious you looked up from the notebook.

“Sanura, the Egyptian black cat who was a Dimensionwanderer just like me and had to misfortune to be reborn as a boy even if she was a girl?”

“Exactly.”

“When will you tell me her story?”

“When this pharaoh Akuma comes. Would be too simple if I told you all right now.”

“You are a meanie.”, you whined. “Also after today with Chat Blanc, could be I screwed canon totally over. This could be bad. We need that Papillion appears on Hero’s Day, so we can catch him and Mayura and end this show before it drags on.”

“So bad was the future?”

“You have no idea, it was just so dragging, and stupid and like how can someone have three moms and not expose themselves!”, you talked rapidly and angrily.

Plagg frowned.

“What? Who has three moms and doesn’t expose themselves?”

“A girl named Lila Rossi. A manipulative and serial liar. She will be joining at the end of this season my class, then stay away for the whole of season two, till Heroes Day, then be back in season three. All besides Marinette will kiss her ass and she will become the Papillion of the future. But if we manage to get Nooroo and Duusu back this headache doesn’t need to happen.”

The kwami frowned even more.

“Are you sure, we will be ready till Heroe’s Day?”

“We need to be ready.”

You put your notebook down.

Writing on it were all potential new holders for the bee, fox, and turtle.

Alya and Nino couldn’t become Rena Rouge and Carapace, even though Alya knew Marinette was Ladybug she still believed Lila and Nino just followed his girlfriend along.

No, you needed strong people in mind and body to catch Papillion and Mayura.

You had already a few in mind.

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