#anti faith lehane

[raisedbythetv89]

Me when the manipulative character manipulates irl viewers into ignoring all the bad and only seeing the good and then treating me like I’m the crazy one because I see through the manipulation and see the characters for who they really are instead of how they want to be perceived

#this was inspired by willow rosenberg and logan huntzberger specifically but there are SO MANY 😭 #xander riley and angel all belong on this list as well #also emily gilmore fuck her fr she’s literally the karen of all karens yet has sooo many stans like hello??? #y’all would believe narcissists and blame their victims if you’re falling for this shit like USE YOUR BRAIN OPEN YOUR EYES #joss whedon is manipulative af which is why so many of his characters are too especially ones he doesn’t hate and want punished #ppl are like how can you hate Willow she’s so sweet! like very obviously that’s an act??? she plays innocent like so many white women do #but then enables or directly causes SO MUCH HARM #anti logan huntzberger #anti willow rosenberg #anti scoobies #anti riley finn #anti angel #anti emily gilmore #anti xander harris #anti bangel #anti biley #anti faith lehane #anti fuffy #spuffy #jess x rory #literati #spike and buffy

[spangelmybeloved]

Buckle up kids, because my blood pressure is through the roof, and I think this one might be a doozy.

I am so so tired of hearing this take TW: discussion of the canonical rape/noncon perpetrated by Faith in S4. Under the cut.

It actually disgusts me, makes me want to rip my hair out, that over and over and over again I hear that what happened is somehow Riley's fault.

Some of you all need to take a sex ed class or something, because Riley DID NOT consent to having sex with Faith in Buffy's body. Sex without consent is rape. Riley was raped. Say it. Riley. Was. Raped.

And I will gladly fight anyone who someone wants to use this as a point against him. He was raped. Not his fault. End of story. Saying otherwise is victim blaming.

Could he maybe have handled the situation better? Possibly. But that's something that gets said to victims of SA all the time. "You should have done something differently." That, that right there? Victim blaming. Stop it.

It sickens me that it was not really addressed how much of a violation that was in the show, but it's worse that some parts the fandom continue to insist that Riley was somehow at fault, or that the fact that he was raped makes him a bad person.

And yeah, what Faith did was a violation of Buffy, too. And yes, she was in the wrong. Yes, I still like her as a character, just like I like a lot of other characters who have done bad stuff. But this post is specifically about the horrendous take I keep seeing.

I've seen this take so so many times. It will never cease the disgust me. Knock it off.

#btvs #meta #riley btvs #anti faith lehane #<just to be safe #not really an anti faith post but she doesn't come off looking too good #tw sa #tw rape #tw noncon

[nevergonnabemuchmorethanweather]

It never occurred how Faith did more emotional and psychological harm to Buffy in the body swap episodes more than any of her enemies did. Or close to that if not.

Eh... I think The Master and Angelus both beat Faith by a pretty wide margin. We saw echoes of that damage throughout the whole rest of the series. It was still incredibly fucked up and clearly made her feel very violated in a way that was particularly bad because it was almost impossible to articulate in a way that would make sense to anybody else. And I don't think she really 'got over' it, because she still felt it when Faith showed up in season 7, but it didn't permanently change her on a fundamental level like the ordeals she went through in the first two seasons.

#btvs #buffy summers #anti faith lehane

[nestaenthusiast]

My Btvs opinions part 1

Okay so I finally finished Buffy the Vampire Slayer and just wanted to share my opinions on all of the main characters throughout the season. Forewarning though, some of this might be controversial!!

Buffy

Ah Buffy. The most main character to have ever lived. She truly slays. Like I just love everything about her. She’s fucking iconic. Shes confident. She is a total badass. She has her insecurities. She can’t drive. She is totally bisexual. She has amazing one liners and amazing outfits to go with them. The list goes on and on forever. Buffy has taught me a lot about believing in myself. Believing in my power. I’ve made a post on this before but a common theme in this show is Buffy feeling like she can’t do something and then stops herself and goes “wait a minute? I’m Buffy. Of course I can do this” and then she does it. It was truly inspiring to watch. Since watching the show I’ve had moments where I’ve doubted myself and then I literally thought of Buffy and got a boost of confidence. Buffy is so inspiring. She is one of those characters that I think will live in me for a long time. She is very close to my heart and honestly gives me strength. Ironically she wasn’t the reason I started watching this show but she’s the reason I stayed.

Faith

I am not joking when I say Faith was the reason I started watching this show in the first place. I saw an edit of her on TikTok and she was so fucking hot I instantly fell in love with her. So I decided I HAD to watch the show. So maybe my expectations were too big because I hate Faith now. Don’t get me wrong Faith is a greatly written character!! She was only in 26 episodes and is one of the most impactful characters on the show. But I still hate her. If it was any other show where Buffy wasn’t the main character, I might love her and be in the pro Faith hashtag. But because of the way Faith treated Buffy, I just can’t with her. Especially after s7. Like she just fucking irritates me. She is always wallowing in her self pity and jealousy of Buffy. She pushed all of her insecurities onto Buffy and made her seem like some prudish stuck up bitch when that was just far from the truth. She didn’t even have a clear image in her head of who Buffy actually was cause of how much she projected onto her. And she was sort of a pick me girl. And no arguments or deep analysis from her supporters will change my opinions on her because my feelings are based on my utter love and devotion to Buffy. When Faith and Buffy were friends I loved her!! I loved their friendship and I would have probably shipped them romantically. But when Faith started treating Buffy badly is when my feelings for her changed.

Willow

Willow is probably my all time favorite Tv witch. So much so that she made me want to start practicing witchcraft again. She has so many amazing quotes like “Occasionally I’m callous and strange” and is such a sweetie pie. And I have a ginormous crush on her. But Willow season 6-7 I do not like. She became very egotistical and I also blame her the most for bringing Buffy back. It is honestly very hard to separate my feelings for Willow from s1-5 and s6-7 cause that’s how much she annoyed me. But before I watched s6-7 I truly loved Willow. And Alyson Hannigan is a truly terrific actress. Dare I say one of the best in the entire show.

Xander

Okay here is where things might get controversial. I actually like Xander. There are definitely episodes where I hate him but for the most part I really like his character. He has a lot of flaws like being a “nice guy” and his occasional sexism. But most of that I feel it is just a sign of the times. That was how they wrote guys in the 90s and early 2000s. The reason I like him despite these things is that I like his heart. Like what he brings to the group is stability in the form of food or repairing Buffy’s house or driving them around or babysitting Dawn. I just love how they didn’t give him superpowers or a lot of intelligence but was still needed in the group. Or maybe not even needed just wanted. He gave what he could cause he loves Buffy and Willow. And he is so fucking hilarious. Like maybe we just have the same sense of humor but I legit find him funny. And he is one of the few characters who I liked more in later seasons that in years beginning.

Giles

I love love love loved Giles. He was such a dad to Buffy and supported her through so much. In s3 he was one of the few to understand the pain she felt with Angel dying and running away. I love how he made mistakes with Buffy but always tried to do his best. He was always there for Buffy whenever she needed him and was there for Willow at her worst and helped her rehabilitation. And most importantly—I love his sweater vests. As with almost every character in this show, I started to not like him in s6. I know they had to write him off cause he needed to be with his family in real life but it still makes me angry that he left Buffy at her absolute worst. It was just so out of character for him and it made no sense. That’s really the only thing I don’t like about his character. Also teen Giles and demon Giles will never fail to make me laugh hysterically.

#btvs #buffy the vampire slayer #buffy summers #buffy deserves better #giles #rupert giles #giles btvs #willow rosenberg #xander harris #faith lehane #anti faith lehane #fuffy #faith x buffy

[lecoindecachou]

It's 2023 and Faith Lehane is still a rapist.

#buffy the vampire slayer #faith lehane #anti faith lehane #anti fuffy #it's like. i know none of us care about riley as a person #but it doesn't change the fact that she raped him #and stole buffy's body #stop shipping buffy with the people who violate her 2k24

[petpluto]

shocked and appalled and intrigued and delighted to hear that you hate my number one good time gal faith lehane. i have so many questions!!! actually it's more like one question and it's just "???????????"

I would love to know why she doesn't work for you as a character (if you ever want to go into it, but no pressure!)

ALWAYS ASK FOR MY BUFFY THOUGHTS! I am legitimately thrilled to go into everything about this show.

And I want it to be clear - I think she’s an exceptionally well written character and Eliza Dushku was so good in the role. She just doesn’t work *for me*.

I’m going to start in the middle - the moment when Faith confronts Buffy at Sunnydale U and says, “You gutted me, Blondie”, it embodies the type of bully I hate more than any other. The type who will, in this case, try desperately to kill you and end the world while also trying to kill your friends and boyfriend, and then see themselves as the victim and you as the aggressor if you fight back. The kind of bully who will use any aggression against them - in this case, getting stabbed in the gut after months of violence directed toward the scoobs - to be even more violent.

Faith is a victim, 💯, of her mother, of probably any number of people before she became a slayer; and I don’t want to discount that. I have a lot of sympathy for Faith, and think she was not cared for in the way she deserved. The Watcher’s Council failed her, the adults who knew her in Sunnydale failed her, and the system continually failed her. Joyce was willing to sacrifice her for Buffy to have a normal life, and no one seemed perturbed she was living in a crappy motel - let alone questioning where she was getting money for things like food and clothes and rent. And I understand that breeding resentment and creating a nihilistic person. I understand abuse begets abuse, and that Faith lashes out at Buffy because she sees this girl getting everything - having *everything* - that Faith feels like she deserves. That Faith *actually* does deserve. Faith deserves a warm home and parents who care and lunches and dinners. She deserves a watcher who has her back. She deserves all of these things.

But when she goes after Buffy, when she talks to Buffy about how everything Buffy has should be hers, when she steals Buffy’s body (which I see as a metaphorical rape) and then sleeps with Riley in Buffy’s body (which I see as actual rapes of both Buffy and Riley), when she makes Buffy the subject and target of her ire, I hate it and I hate her. When she sexually assaults Xander as she works on killing him, I hate it and I hate her. When she rages at Buffy for stealing her life when she was trying to end the world, I hate it and I hate her. Because these are good people; these are also kids; and these people aren’t and shouldn’t be her targets.

And I hate it when she comes back in season 7, because the show doesn’t allow her the space to reintegrate into the gang, after everything. It’s partially the way her arc resolves in season 1 of Angel, where it and Faith coming to terms with what she did is separate from the majority of her violence (torture of Wesley notwithstanding). If she had remained on Angel the Series, I think I could have grown to tolerate her, because that show and those characters interacted with her during the season 1 arc and the season 4 arc. But the story the writers were telling on BtVS necessitates Faith’s presence, because it affects her as well. She deserved to be part of the discussion and the resolution about the slayer line. But the writers also had her talk about stealing Buffy’s body like it was ultimately fine, and had the line, “There's only supposed to be one. Maybe that's why you and I can never get along. We're not supposed to exist together.” Which, for me, sums up the thing I dislike most about Faith, even post-turn toward the good side arc. She is myopic. It’s not that they couldn’t get along - it’s that she wouldn’t let them get along. There isn’t a force in the Buffyverse that gets in Faith’s way when it comes to her relationship with Buffy other than Faith herself. And I hate that I think that line is supposed to be funny, because it just drags Faith back toward still being that bully who can’t handle it when someone fights back. And I want her to work beyond that, and be someone who can see and empathize with other people’s experiences. And, for me, we don’t get there.

I used to describe Faith as a Tennessee Williams character, and I hate Tennessee Williams. And I think that’s still true. I don’t enjoy nihilism. I think there’s value to Faith in the story they told. I think there’s a reason she’s here. I just don’t enjoy the journey, or the resolution.

#faith lehane #anti faith lehane #buffy the vampire slayer #shiverandqueeef #ask me anything I will rant and rant and rant #this is a bit all over the place #I meant to answer it from my computer but I’m typing it up at work which means it’s all from my phoooooone

[williamprattz]

fa1th stans on twt are so fucking dumb they plan out ignore the fact she raped buffy and riley 🤢— also notice the pattern that they’re also always ang3l stans too 🫢

#angel stans 🤝 faith stans acting like their morally better but than excuse rape/pedophilia #anti faith stans #anti angel stans #anti faith lehane #anti angel

[juanabaloo]

Faith Lehane is the MVP!

aka yet another Eliza Dushku appreciation post!

Still not over the fact that Faith didn't have a last name until 2 years AFTER BTVS went off the air. She literally DID NOT HAVE A LAST NAME the whole time she was on the show. (Neither did Kendra BTW.)

In the literal dictionary sense: Faith is technically a minor character in terms of screen time. (Whaaaa???) She was in 20 episodes of BTVS and 6 of ATS. She was never listed in the main cast for either. She was not in the BTVS (or ATS) 20 year cast reunion.

We know Eliza played Faith as having a crush on Buffy. In cons Eliza consistently supported the idea of Fuffy (Faith x Buffy). (GIF proof)

Think about Riley, supposedly Buffy's third love interest on the show (behind Spike and Angel). The show tries really hard to have you think he's a good guy (5x10 Into the Woods - hate this ep) and that he's the one who got away (6x15 As You Were - not buying it). Riley was in 31 BTVS epis (vs 20 for Faith). Riley also has more speaking time than Faith in BTVS, ranked at #10 vs #13 for Faith. But it's 2022 and who the fuck is still talking about Riley? (mostly) Nobody!

But for Faith? There's gorgeous gifsets and insightful meta essays and text posts and webweaving poetry posts about Faith and Fuffy. (I'm not even gonna get into the fanfic that's still getting posted.) That's what Fuffy is still inspiring, nearly 20 years after going off the air!

So... also proud of you FUFFY Nation. Sometimes I get a little choked up (like Buffy here) and sometimes I get hopeful and thoughtful (like Faith here). Here's to a great 2023!!

Gif credits: top (sweet on her) is from BTVS 7x20 by @raggeddypondond middle (drink and porch) is from Faith in 7.19 by @shelly-johnson bottom (right in the feels) is from Buffy & Faith 7.18 by @cwladiesdaily

Additional gif that I couldn't figure out how to include: linked gif proof of Eliza supporting Fuffy is from pullmysoul

#btvs #faith lehane #eliza dushku #fuffy #faith x buffy #eliza dushku appreciation #thank you original gifmakers you are worth your weight in gold! #anti riley finn #sorry riley fans i do go off on him a little here

[mothmans-wedding-photographer]

Mothman's Buffy Rewatch, Season 3, episodes 9 and 10, "The Wish" and "Amends"

The Wish

It's nice to see the main three together alone again

XANDER WHAT THE FUCK STOP CALLING HER

"Your logic does not resemble our earth logic"

Cordelia doing weird witchy stuff...

IS THIS THE ANYA INTRODUCTION EPISODE?? I THOUGHT SHE CAME IN LATER? But I can't think of another time Cordelia was doing witchcraft

OH MY GOSH IT IS ANYA

In my defense my parents didn't let me watch this my first time around

Damn they're bullying Cordelia hard, this is like when the other mean girls turned on Regina

Also poor guy though like he's being used as a cruel joke 😭😭

"The reason you want to talk is so that you can feel better about yourself, and that's not my problem" I love Willow but he's right

Anya and Cordy bonding hell yeah

Willow 🤝 me: constant guilt (except I never cheated on anyone womp womp Willow)

Oof poor Cordy I would literally never get over being tossed in the dumpster but to be fair I have contamination ocd

ANYA'S DEMON FACE????

If you take the Buffy out of Sunnydale everyone would be fucking dead 😭😭

Monthly memorial?

"The Bronze isn't cool in this reality" bro she is not subtle

I just realized Cordelia kind of looks like my grade 12 English teacher

Vampire Xander sjsjdjejsj isn't he also one in those AU comics?

DOPPELGANGLAND WILLOW??????

Oz, Giles and another woman team up? OH THERES ANOTHER MAN TOO

THE MASTER???

I do not like vamp Willow and her clinginess to Xander in this episode

Cordelia is not explaing the alternate reality thing she just expects Giles to figure it out

"So you're a Watcher right? Watch this" LMAO

Oof rip Nancy

THE INCINERATOR?

What is the puppy. Im afraid

"Bored now" she keeps saying the thing

This isn't going to make me feel bad for Angel I refuse

Ok maybe a little bit but only because Willow is making me very uncomfortable

Xander is freaky as well ok

Giles gets bonked

BUFFY???

Oh she's got a nice lip scar

Grumpy less fun Buffy

I don't really have a lot to say about this part besides the fact that it is horrific

ANYA'S BACK

Oh my gosh that's so horrifying what the fuck

Xander gets crossbowed

Oz finally kills a vampire!!! Only took an alternate universe

"Your only power lies in wishing" Anya fucking chokes him I'm crying

OZ PUSHES HER ONTO THE BROKEN WOOD LMAO

Buffy has this constant pinned mouth expression this whole episode. She's bitter-er in this reality

Buffy fucking dies what the fuck

I can't believe Cordelia said kill all men

Ok this episode was great but also really hard to watch

Amends

Angel with the Irish accent and mustache this is so wrong

Buffy Christmas episode??

Her hair sucks I'm sorry Buffy

Haunted by the spirit of the Irish guy

"I thought you slept outside to avoid your family's drunken fights" "I told you that in confidence" well she thought in confidence that you wouldn't cheat on her so womp womp lmao

Oz and Willow talk it out? Good for them, it's probably healthier than letting it linger

Oz wants her back? I kind of think he deserves better but whatever it's his life I guess

It's sweet that Joyce thinks of inviting Faith but it does make me think of how she kind of treats Faith better than Buffy

Poor Faith :( she's trying to act cool in front of Buffy

Sorry to bother you is crazy

THE CROSSBOW

Jenny appeared at the perfect time

He's using the treatment of women at the time to force his victim to not "make a scene" when hes hurting her, absolutely awful

I do feel bad that Jenny can never have the life she wanted but again. It's not Angel's fault he's literally a different guy

Yeah Angelus is so much worse than the average vampire. They've said this in the show, I like that they're showing his victims now

Angel as a person sexually harassed woman. This is not surprising to me

The "Mr. Giles" stocking 🥺

Buffy and Willow are eepy

It's just Buffy and Angel having sex for like half a minute ok

Imagine if this was actually Jenny's ghost lmao

The slayer walks in and all the vampires leave I'm crying

Willy encouraging Xander is kind of wholesome in a weird way

Willow's trying to be sexy but she's so awkward 😭 Alyson Hannigan can do both sexy and unsexy Willow well

"You don't have to prove anything to be" I mean she does but not through sex

Faith showed up yippee!!!!

ANGEL JUMPSCARE FUCK

ANGEL JUST FUCKING THROWS HIMSELF OUT THE WINDOW

Having people whispering in your ear telling you to do horrible things is kind of like ocd. Fuck why am I relating to Angel.

I like the designs of the eyeless guys

I do not care if Angel kills himself I'm ngl

Chekov's gun moment or whatever

It's funny that she just starts hitting the ground but it's funnier that it works

Buffy taking a few seconds to think up that quip

"You have no idea what you're dealing with" "let me guess. Is it evil?"

David Boreanez if he was a good actor

He hits, grabs, and shakes Buffy... yeah ok go fuck yourself

Yeah ok I hate Angel but this is not the right stuff to be saying to someone who is suicidal

It's snowing merry Christmas

Oof Xander sleeping outside is rough :(

They never. Solved the evil problem. What

#buffy the vampire slayer #btvs #buffy summers #willow rosenberg #mothman's buffy rewatch #rupert giles #xander harris #cordelia chase #anya btvs #anyanka #anti angel #tw suicide mention #faith lehane

[shewhobefuddles]

Once again thinking about the emotional trauma that listening to "Kyoto", "Moon Song", "I Know The End", or "Killer" would cause Buffy Summers.

#ICU is Spike obvs #And we all know who Moon Song and Motion Sickness are >:III #Thinking more and more about how Angel is a symptom of her daddy issues lately #Wait which song is about her intimate fiery devastating connection with Faith #buffy summers #Buffy the vampire slayer #btvs #buffyverse #faith lehane #spike btvs #angel btvs #spuffy #fuffy #anti bangel #buffy btvs #buffy x faith #buffy tvs #buffy x spike

[raisedbythetv89]

just saw someone saying “buffy has a lot of faith in her in seasons 1 & 2” and I’m like um… NO buffy has a lot of BUFFY in her in seasons 1 and 2 and then they CHANGED HER COMPLETELY when they introduced Faith!!!!?????

Buffy was ALWAYS the rebel slayer who didn’t follow the rules and got into trouble - FUCKED THE SOUL OUT OF A VAMPIRE AND HAS DIED FOR CHRIST SAKE and lived on her own in LA for several months supporting herself and escaped a hell dimension and they fucking changed her into a goodie goody who dresses like a church mouse in order for her to actually contrast enough with faith when those changes make zero fucking sense given everything she’s been through and everything they established about her in the first two seasons!!!

God how the fuck can you attribute characteristics of the main character to a character who hasn’t even shown up yet. That is just the dumbest interpretation I’ve ever fucking seen. I hate season three for so many reasons but the main one is what they did to Buffy’s character in order to make the faith storyline as “her shadow self” make any sense.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again it would have been so much better and made wayyyyyyyyyy more sense if Buffy had become the “bad slayer” after helpless and they had kept kendra to continue to contrast buffy as the “good” aka rule following, council obeying slayer

#don’t mind me I’m ranting #I hate that we lose kendra and gain faith #the concept of faith and buffy is so much better than the actual execution bc faith is written to cater to the male gaze and it gives #me the ick to watch cuz she’s trying sooo hard to be so cool and sexy bc of the writing like iliza did what she could playing faith queer #which was then later incorporated but joss is still joss so there’s just an underlying ick factor #anti faith lehane #buffy summers i love you #and I hate what they did to you in season 3 to make space for a character I hate #and that kendra had to die in order for her to even be there in the first place

[kyliafanfiction]

Stop woobifying Faith!

She committed manslaughter and her first reaction was to hide, lie, pretend she didn’t care, blame someone else, act like he deserved it, and then when she was finally past all that, she immediately switched sides.

#I love Faith but she sure is a murderer #and while yes the Mayor cared about her and gave her a sense of belonging etc etc she hadn't know #known him before she changed sides and had no idea what he had to offer #Faith's reasons for doing what she did are complex and in part are rooted in her trauma but she still CHOSE #to do what she did #Buffy thought she killed a man by accident and she did not react the same way #Again Faith's trauma and issues are legit factors but even if she didn't act the way Buffy did she could have acted a million other ways #and she didn't #She's not some uwu baby child soldier victim of circumstances #at least not the way ya'll want to talk about her #Grumping #In Which Kylia Responds To Another Post Indirectly #Anti-Faith Lehane #Technically #Faith Lehane

[nevergonnabemuchmorethanweather]

I know I've already said this in the past, but it's so ironic how Faith was like "everybody thanks Buffy and ignores me" all the while almost everyone who interacted with Buffy (including/especially her own mother and sonetimes the Scoobies) for the most part either barely acknowledged her, heaped a bunch of expectations onto her or whined about how her being a Slayer (and her existence as a whole) made their lives so inconvenient.

Nothing about Faith's view of Buffy was based in any kind of reality. Buffy wasn't a real person to Faith, she was whatever Faith needed her to be at that particular moment to feel better about herself and justify her choices. Any detail that didn't fit her narrative was immediately forgotten and if she couldn't find any details that did fit, she'd make them up.

#btvs #buffy summers #anti faith lehane #anti scoobies

[nestaenthusiast]

I love how Faiths raid on Caleb went COMPLETELY worse than Buffy’s raid

#btvs #buffy the vampire slayer #buffy summers #buffy deserves better #faith lehane #anti faith lehane

[confusedguytoo]

I don’t know why, but no matter what the summary of the fic is when I see Faith Lehane/Tara Maclay as a ship I gag and scroll past as fast as I can.  I just absolutely hate that concept.  Not that I ship Tara with anyone but Willow, but Fath/Tara hits me as wrong in a way no other ship does

#Buffy The Vampire Slayer #faith lehane #tara #anti-ship

[juniperhillpatient]

I have this thing where I get older but just never wiser…

#azula #faith lehane #azula atla #faith btvs #atla #Buffy the vampire slayer #anti hero #taylor swift #midnights #amv #guys I’m a little obsessed with myself for this I gotta be honest