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moprocrastinates · 5 years

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STRANGER THINGS S4 THEORY:

mkay... now that we’ve all digested *that* ending with Hopper, I have theories for S4 (if it is S4) based on snippets of things we’ve heard in s1-s3. SPOILERS FOR S1-S3 OF STRANGER THINGS.

p.s.--- i don’t know shit about anything. this is just my dumb guess/wishful thinking. keep your negative comments to yourself.

- Hopper went through the gate. @strangergotham has a really great, plausible theory about it. Their summary, in short--somehow, Hop got into the Upside Down through the Russian’s drilled gate. Whether he jumped in or was blown in by the explosion, the camera does not let us see. He walks through the Upside Down and finds another gate (like El does in S2E1 after defeating the Demogorgon and disappearing in S1E8). Only this gate leads him to Russia, where, on the *OTHER* side of that Hawkins-Upside Down-Russian gate, Russian officials capture him. He is indeed the American the Russians have captive. @strangergotham is spot-on.

- What are the Russians doing? In S1, when we get El’s scenes in Hawkins lab, Brenner or someone there is talking about using El as a weapon against the Russians. This means two things: 1) All of the “experiments” (numbers 01-011/El) were meant to be weapons against Russia, and 2) If the Americans felt a threat against Russia and needed a deadly weapon, why wouldn’t the Russians ALSO be doing the same thing? But the Russians failed more than the Americans in developing people with powers because the Russians are generally better with technology (as evidenced by S3 and the Russians’ weird spinny gate-opener), and were kind of SOL about the whole developing-people-with-powers-to-use-as-weapons, until one day, a Demogorgon broke through on THEIR side of the gate. Somehow, they managed to wrangle it and train it, using their prisoners as a reward for a good little Demodog. However, they’ve now reached a point where the Demogorgon is reaching its full power, and can utilize it to their full advantage. In S1, the Demogorgon was a loner, likened by Nancy to a bear. However, we saw in S2 that Demodogs (a less evolved version) are pack animals. Have they evolved from lone to pack? Does Russia have an army of trained Demogorgons that attack in pack formation? ... Maybe.

- We saw at the end of S3 that the crack in the Hawkins’ side isn’t closed completely. Like a scar with feeble stitches, it can be busted open. Essentially, the Upside Down will act as a tunnel from Russia to Hawkins. What better place to destroy America than from the inside out?

- So, El, still having not completely recharged, tries to fit in normally in her new home. But it sucks, and she’s not around all of her friends and family. She’s been, mentally, in that cave Hopper mentioned, and she tries to remember her happiest memory with Hopper and searches for that feeling. But like with Billy, she somehow gets caught in HOPPER’S memories and realizes he’s alive. She tells Joyce, and the Byers go back to Hawkins. Joyce has to deal with her feelings for Hopper as El discovers that the gate is still open.

- But El isn’t strong enough. So she searches, and finds her “siblings.” They too have all lost someone they loved and want retribution on Brenner, who is still on the lookout for his “child prodigy,” El. All of the Experiments come back to Hawkins. They help El recharge/reconnect to her powers, and prepare to extract their vengeance on Brenner.

- LITERALLY IT’S JUST GONNA BE A GIGANTIC SHOWDOWN BETWEEN MONSTERS AND HUMANS.

Storylines ST Needs to Wrap Up... In One Season????:

- Brenner storyline

- Joyce/Hopper date storyline

- El/Kali/The Other Experiments --> where are they?

- Steve gets someone who loves him (or not)

- closing the gate once and for all, giving Barb, Bob, Billy, etc... justice. (Why do all the people who die have B names? Do the Duffers have an issue with B names...? wtf)

- Will gets to be the person he wants to be, free of pain and suffering

- Nancy and Jonathan reunite

- Mileven

- Max grieving over Billy while dealing with her conflicted feelings towards him/dealing with her abusive stepfather

- Robin becoming more open and comfortable with her sexuality (in the 80s!!!)

- El and Hopper being a peaceful family together family

- El, Hopper, Will, Joyce, and Jonathan... as a family???

- El getting to be a normal kid

- Karen leaving Ted or something bc she deserves better

I really want the whole thing to end with a flash forward-- some of the Party’s kids watching a documentary about Hawkins like the one at the end of S3, and turning to ask their parents if they remember anything about the mysterious leaks, deaths, explosions, etc., and I want someone (preferably El) to shrug and say something like, “There were stranger things out there.”

give me s4 and give it to me NOW

#st #stranger things #stranger things season 3 #stranger things spoilers #stranger things theory #stranger things theories #stranger things meta #I'M DUMB AND I KNOW IT

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janehopperra · 4 years

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OOE:

So in order to take back some of the order on my blog, I’m gonna keep the tally for today’s stuff on one post, then when I’m done watching tomorrow, I’ll put that tally on here as well.

This is also to save the dashes of whoever likes to keep them clean. I apologize for the mass ooc. I just finally felt like I could safely let my saltiness over s3 run rampant.

Bad: The makeout scene Good: Will taking care of everyone in the party making sure everyone has snacks for the theatre Bad 2: Mike being a whiny brat right off the bat Good 2: Steve immediately flicking the switch on and off to spite Robin Good 3: Jane playing pranks with the party with her telekinesis. Bad 3: The Karen and Billy Thing Good 4: IT IS CONSTANT… CONSTANT. Bad 4: ‘Curfew at 4:00pm’ Bad 5: The apparent focus of Will’s character only being that he’s jealous of Mike and Jane and also that he can sense the mindflayer. literally nothing else. Bad 6: Karen and Billy Again Bad 7: Joyce eating tv dinner alone while thinking about bob :( Bad 8: Makeout scene 2.0 Good 5: Hopper yeeting himself to another plane of existence in the next room Bad 9: Mike whispering to Jane right in front of Hop ( As if I didn’t find this creepy enough ) Bad 10: I gotta admit Hop lying about Mike’s grandma is bad Good 6: Hop being an actual dad and placing boundaries between Mike and El makes up for that though. Like that needed to happen. Bad 11: Dustin being left alone at the radio tower. Bad 12: Karen??? what the fuck are you doing??? Good 7: Karen coming to her senses. Bad 13: Billy.. jfc

First episode - 7-13

Good 8: Boundary establishing actually working. Bad 14: Mike lying through his teeth, keeping the lie up even after Karen caught him in it. Bad 15: “You lie?” “What? No! Friends don’t lie!” Good 9: Hop scream singing his song in the Blazer. Bad 16: Nancy’s boss being an absolute??? Jerkwad??? They were that way in the 80′s to women yeah but yikes. Good 10: Dustin and Steve’s handshake Good 11: ‘Mike’s a piece of shit!’ Snaps fingers hell yeah he is Bad 17: ‘You don’t understand lucas! He’s lost his mind!’ How about stop??? Blaming other people??? For how you acted Mike??? You had a choice not to lie dumbass. Bad 18: The boys acting like this is some sort of battlefield where you need combat strategies when in reality you need to speak the truth. Bad 19: Them constantly leaving Will hanging, poor boy just wants to play dnd :( Bad 20: More Karen and Billy like tf Thank god Billy told her to stay away Good 12: The girls going out and having fun!!! To hell with the boys!!!! Bad 21: Joyce forgetting about Hop to solve the magnet issue ( wasn’t her fault but yeah ) Good 13: The Material Girl skit!!! The photographer session! High heels! Jane pranking the binch that rejected Dustin at the snow ball. There’s more to life than stupid boys! Bad 22: “Can we play DND now???” “NO!!!!” Bad 23: Mike trying to change the subject and recoiling when he’s caught at the mall, like he thought he would get away with the lie??? Good 14: I dump your ass. Bad 24: The face Mike makes when Jane walks away, like you’d think if he’s so??? in love he’d be at least a little more devastated??? He looks like a brat. ( No offense to the actor he’s great, the character’s a brat ) Good 15: IT’S CUTTING EDGE STUFF MAN!!! Bad 25: Hop being left at Enzo’s :((( He was so excited man Good 16: The scoops troop solving stuff. Bad 26: Hop taking the whole bottle of alcohol and leaving, kind of shit faced, DRIVES HOME SHITFACED. You’re a cop, Hop! For fuck’s sake.

Episode 2 mark - 16-26

Good 17: Jane and Max acting like best friends Bad 27: “I don’t understand what I did to deserve this why is she treating me this way I’m the victim” I honestly can’t. Bad 28: ‘We’re trying to solve the great mystery of the female species’ oh yikes. Bad 29: Hop arriving home drunk and barging into Jane’s room thinking Mike was with El and the door was closed. Bad 30: Hop.. acting like a bit of a creep and then cracking open the bottle of wine for more drinking!!! In the presence of El. After what he just did. Good 18: Honestly I think it’s kind of cool that Max and Jane have made a game utilizing Jane’s powers instead of shoving them away. Bad 31: The boys mocking Will for taking the chance to play DND. Will honey its okay Bad 32: Hopper being a weird disgusting bear, and also being kind of spiteful towards Joyce. I get she hung you up but like come on man, you know she wouldn’t do that without good reason. Bad 33: “You stand me up, no phone call no apology because you had to go to Scott Clark’s house” NOW IT’S TIME FOR HOP TO GET BASHED. Bad 34: Hop pretending to understand how Joyce thinks the magnetism loss thing was the lab then going back to being spiteful and a smartass. Bad 35: Max in denial about the Billy situation Good 19: Scoops troop being funny little shits. They’re the only pure group in this nonsense of a season. Bad 36: The boys still mocking Will during DND. Guys just humor him for fucks sake, he’s been dealing with yalls shit all summer. Bad 37: Mike recoiling when Will finally has enough of their shit and leaves. Bad 38: “You guys are never in the mood anymore! You’re destroying everything and for what, so you can swap spit with some stupid girl” “It’s not my fault you don’t like girls!” Honestly, low blow on both ends. Yikes. Good 20: Honestly the horror in this season is good so it gets it’s own good point for that. Good 21: Hop actually going to the lab with Joyce to soothe her worries about the magnetism loss. ( Also poor joyce remembering Bob’s death ) Good 22: The scoops troop again being on the case, only to then find out the guy they’re chasing is a yoga instructor. Good 23: Hop trying to make sure everyone feels safe and at home. Good 24: Hop opening up just a tiny bit about what he did after Sarah died, trying to relate to Joyce. Bad 39: The fact that Will felt so alone and outcasted to the point that he felt the need to tear the castle down after looking around at all the memories in it and bursting into tears. My poor lad. I’ve been in the same boat, fuck the boys honestly. Good 25: The scoops troop at it again, actually being productive in their side of the story. Bad 40: Something I just don’t get at all is the fact that Jane just.. introduces herself as El, giving herself away almost immediately. Hun, you have another name, you’re not still a number. Idk that thing just irks me. Bad 41: And again, Will just being used for the ‘woe is me/enemy locator’ trope.

Episode 3 mark - 25-41

Good 26: Max introducing the wonder woman comics to Jane after listening to her. Bad 42: Max still being in denial about Billy and Heather. Good 27: Joyce taking care of Hop, SOMEHOW dragging his ass back to the cabin. Bad 43: ThIs iS a CoDe ReD ( I don’t blame Max for turning the radio off I’d throw it across the room after all that’s happened ) Bad 44: Again. Will’s only purpose being that he senses the mindflayer– like what the fuck he could be used for so much more. Bad 45: This is just a thing– I honestly hate that we only get one scene with the hoppers and also the byers acting like a family. All that build up in season 2??? wasted. All that potential wasted. Bad 46: The mayor taking a jab at Hopper and his ‘dead daughter sob story’. Damn right you deserved that fucking punch. Good 28: Joyce pulling the phone line when the receptionist tried to call the police. Good 29: The scoops troop and their hilarity. Bad 47: Max continuing to be in complete denial over Billy’s role with the mindflayer. Good 30: “Don’t you love your country” “You can’t spell America without Erica” I love Erica so much Good 31: “I want you to forget about sales and come work for me at hawkins pd.” “And have to look at your face every day? I don’t think so.” I have to admit that was cute Good 32: Karen actually being a mom for a change and listening to and supporting Nancy. Good 33: “He made me lie, I mean–” “What if he’s right?” “No no no he’s just a crazy old man” “No, if I only see you and I’m a different species, maybe I should be with my own species more.” Bad 47: “Wait you spied on me? That’s totally against the rules!!!” Mike she’s a telekinetic who can locate people and also implode your brain. There are no rules. Good 34: “I make my own rules.” Except hers. Good 35: “If you die, I die” “Okay” Dustin’s such a ride or die bitch I love it. Bad 48: How many times has Will been used for mindflayer location? 4-5 times? Bad 49: Jane relenting when protecting herself and her friends. I’m sorry but if someone’s had a hand to her throat or face or anything she’s thrown whoever did that through a wall, caught off guard and not. Good 36: She eventually did throw Billy through a wall but still the point remains

Episode 4 mark - 36-49

Bad 50: Joyce’s bad throwing skills. Hun you’re throwing a gun not a baseball. ( jk ilu mom ) Bad 51: This terminator guy gets a bad point. I don’t think they explained him at all? Even if they did.. eh. Good 37: “Why wouldn’t he be safe? Nancy?” For once someone’s worried about the welfare of these kids. Good 38: Hop’s big butt sprawled over the Blazer gets a point. Bad 52: Hop calling Alexei Smirnoff gets an… eh point for me. Idk why it turns me off a bit. It’s a funny name and all but eh. Bad 53: The beloved Blazer exploding gets a bad point. Shame on you for killing it, st writers. Good 39: “Ill-annoy” cute. Bad 54: “ThEy’Re CoNsPiRiNg AgAiNsT mE” Not everything’s about you, Mike. Good 40: “She was making bad screams” “What’s a good scream” Max: “Doesn’t matter–” Bad 55: Hop making the joke that every man Joyce talks to must be another version of Clark. Yikes man, she burned you that bad? Good 41: “He’s a dangerous child murderer” As Alexei smiles whilst sipping his cherry icee.

#OUTOFEGGOS #so far this whole season has been yikes from start to fucking finish #Moira watches s3 #now I must go and delete the mass amounts of ooc

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