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mapetitetetefolle · 1 year
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Rating Sarah J Maas Male characters just because from the most green flag to de most red flag…
This is just my opinion… don’t take it seriously 👀
1. Rowan Whitethorn: I mean… for me he is the definition of all green flags in a mate, supportive, true to his feelings, honest (if he doesn’t like something he would tell you), he would never gaslight you, he respects you and considers you as his equal, he would do anything for you, he takes care of you, he would go to the end of the world for you and do whatever it takes to find you, he would let you shine and with him never is a competition, he would be your most devoted fan,he tries to control his terriorial fae bullshit (sometimes 🤣) so many qualities that I couldn't mention them all.
2. Hunt Athalar: first of all is a hot angel 😇. He could assume wrong things about you but when he gets to know you he will accept that he is wrong and once he does he will devote himself to admiring and adore you. he expresses his feelings directly and what he wants from you 😏, it can be a bit cringe but as kourtney kardashian says: omg is so cringe, guilty! he is vulnerable with you and he doesn't care that you see that side of him, he just makes him more attractive.
2. Cassian: For me, Cassian is in second place along with Athalar, I actually think that the three of them (Rowan, Hunt and Cassian) could be a first place, except that I am really in love with Rowan and for me he is always number 1. Anyway, Cassian It's too GreenFlag, besides knowing exactly what you want 😏 and when you want it and of course it will always wait for you to give it your consent. He cares about your safety even in those private moments 🤭. He does not hide the soft and vulnerable side of him. He has a sense of humor, with him you will always have a good time, He protects you from yourself, He will forgive you absolutely everything even if you are a damn bitch. He will be interested in your hobbies and will learn to do the things you like. He will always vote to tell you the truth.
3. Lorcan Salvaterre: He can be a total miserable and controlling bastard but once he realizes you're the most important thing to him he'll do everything for you, even cut his own clothes if it means you'll have period pads when you need them. He definitely has a soft side but he doesn't let others see it, sometimes neither do you, he can make hasty decisions that sometimes don't turn out very well.
4.Dorian Havillard: For many it may be questionable that I put him on this site but I consider that Dorian, despite the fact that I am sure he will make you have a great time, he is cute, he will give you a puppy, he will bring you your favorite sweets and he will snuggle with you when you have your Period, he's very fickle, I don't think he knows exactly what he wants, I think we've seen him in love so many times that I really don't think we (or even him) can trust his true feelings. I don't know, I think that as a friend and lover he is great but that's all.
5. Rhysand: I think it is not necessary to explain much, but definitely he makes quite questionable decisions regarding his love interest, I am sure that he will do whatever is necessary for your happiness and well-being, the problem is that perhaps his concept of well-being and happiness will not be the same than yours.he will totally gaslight you "for your own sake" (lie to you or hide some info if he considers it necessary for you to be okay). I think he is the one that definitely has the most control management problems. On the bright side he definitely knows how to make you have a good time and will encourage you in your hobbies. he definitely has a problem giving you your private space.
6. Azriel: I know half the internet is in love with him, but come on! we know almost nothing apart from a few actions that happen in the books, mentally he could be the most toxic and psychopathic of all... probably not but that only talks about how a pretty face and a few actions that could be interpreted as good (or questionable) are enough for us to fall madly in love with an individual.
7. Rhun: Let's face it, he's just a gorgeous and interesting fuckboi. definitely as an older brother I think he is the best! but as a love interest not so much, just like Dorian I think he's exceptionally attractive and he definitely knows how to do things, but other than the fact that you'll have an incredible time with him on a date, as a long-term relationship I don't think he knows what he wants either , he fell in love with someone he practically didn't even know and according to him he was so sure of that love that nothing mattered and suddenly he meets her and changes his mind 🙄.
Chaol: seriously this man is the definition of toxic masculinity. I really think that those who like him is because they haven't been to therapy...anyways he will only love the parts of you that are comfortable for him, despite the opportunities he has to change his toxic behaviors he won't. he will always blame someone else for what happens, when you have your period he will run away. his priority will always be his best friend. clinging to the ideas that he had even though time and circumstances prove otherwise. It seems that he likes strong women but he ends up complaining about them for whatever reason.
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bookishfeylin · 10 months
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Does anyone else think the Elriel/Gwynriel/Elucien ship war is due in part to Sarah’s habit of solving love triangles by making the losing love interest toxic and/or abusive so fans of <insert ship here> are forced to defend why the members of their preferred pairing aren’t abusive or toxic and are forced to call members of the opposing pairing toxic?
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leiawritesstories · 9 months
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stay a while, it's safe here
Rowaelin Month, Day 8: Single Parents
Word count: 3,070
Warnings: angst, references to past abusive and toxic relationship, big heavy emotions, few scattered swear words
A/N: I'm both apprehensive and ready to share this, because it is...heavy. it's angsty. it's not a fluff fic. it has been in the works for a while now, though, and being able to share it means the world to me, so thank you deeply if you choose to read :)
also, i'll be taking a few days off after this, partially because the fic drained me a bit and partially because i've just started a new semester of college classes and i have a big fat paper for constitutional law class that's gonna require hella research
You only feel it when it's lost Gettin' through still has a cost Quietly, it slips through your fingers, love Falling from you drop by drop
~ Hozier, "Who We Are"
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Night had fallen over Doranelle when Aelin finally pulled off the interstate and slowed down as she drove up the ramp and turned into the slumbering city. The streets were nearly deserted save for a handful of other late-night drivers, probably travelers like herself, their vehicles chugging quietly through the gentle drizzle drifting from the skies. The light rain dusted a soft sheen of crystals all over the city; the drops glittered faintly in the yellow hues of the streetlights.
After what felt like an eternity, Aelin turned into the parking lot of a simple brownstone building whose sign labeled it "Mistward Hall Bed & Breakfast -- Your Home Away From Home." She found an open spot, parked her car, turned off the engine, and exhaled a soul-deep sigh of pure relief.
For at least a snatch of time, she was safe.
She glanced into the backseat, eyes locking on the small figure slumbering peacefully in the bright purple booster seat that had been installed in the car after multiple screaming tantrums. Four-year-old Alanna Galathynius was fast asleep, her mussed blonde curls squished against the side of her head where she'd leant into the carseat's headrest, her little button lips dropped halfway open as she slept.
"Mama will be right back, my little love," Aelin whispered. Grabbing her purse, she ducked out of the car, locked it, and kept one eye on the vehicle for the whole of the three minutes it took her to enter the B&B, check in, and return to the car, which was conveniently parked right by the entrance. Lana was still there, still peacefully asleep.
"Come here, little love," Aelin murmured, carefully unfastening her daughter's seatbelt and lifting the small child into her arms. "Shh, lovey, it's alright, Mama has you." She cuddled her daughter close, whispering softly to her as she took the overnight bags out of the backseat, arranged them so she could carry both the luggage and her daughter, and headed inside.
It was only a short walk to the suite where she and Lana were staying for a few nights, and Lana was still fast asleep when Aelin unlocked the door, entered the room, and laid her daughter on the smaller bed. Gently, she unfastened and took off Lana's shoes and jacket, slid the barrette from her unruly hair, and decided not to try and change her into pajamas. "You're safe, baby, I swear it. Rest now, Lana love," Aelin murmured. She kissed her daughter's forehead and tucked her into bed. Within fifteen minutes, she too was burrowed into the comfort of a warm bed, and sleep claimed her almost as soon as she had closed her eyes.
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It started with a collision and a smile.
Aelin was twenty years old, a senior at Adarlan University thanks to AP credit and accelerated courses, and she was walking back to the campus apartment she shared with Elide, Lysandra, and Nehemia when she collided with a body that had come out of seemingly nowhere.
"Oh god! I'm so sorry," she gasped, stumbling over herself, her feet, and her words as she picked herself up and scrambled to collect the notebooks she'd dropped all over the sidewalk.
"No, no, it's all my fault for not paying attention to where I was going." The guy she'd just run into--a few inches taller than her, standard athletic build, brown hair, brown eyes, khakis and a fraternity polo shirt--offered her a charming smile. "I'm Chaol Westfall, and I have no sense of direction."
That got her to crack a smile. "I'm Aelin Galathynius, and I really need to look at my surroundings once in a while." She shook his hand.
They exchanged idle chatter for a few minutes before Chaol flashed another of those polished, charming smiles and hit her with the unexpected, but not unwelcome, question. "Could I have your number, Aelin? I know we've just met, but I really want to get to know you better. Maybe coffee? Lunch?"
The warm, tingly feeling of being appreciated and asked on a date spread through Aelin's limbs. "I'd like that," she agreed, typing her number into Chaol's phone. "I have an insane schedule, but I'm always free on Tuesday afternoons."
"Tuesday it is, then." Chaol's parting smile stayed at the front of her mind until their first date. Which turned into another date, and another, and studying at his frat house, and visits to her apartment, late nights and exhausted crashes and everything.
His only potential flaw was how oblivious he was to when she was really, deeply struggling. But Aelin hadn't spent years fortifying the barricades around her mind and memory for nothing.
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She graduated, and he was there for her, smiling his whitened smile and holding her close to his side, the perfect proud boyfriend. She got a job in the city, and he offered to let her move into his townhouse, even declined her repeated attempts to contribute to the rent. Let me take care of you, he insisted.
Being young and foolish and fancying herself in love, she'd acquiesced. Lost in the throes of young love, of first love, she hadn't recognized the warning signs until it was too late.
"What do you mean, I shouldn't drive myself to work?" Aelin literally couldn't understand where Chaol was coming from. "Babe, I've been driving myself around in this city for years, and everything has been perfectly smooth and safe and fine."
"You don't understand, Aelin, babe," he sighed, rubbing one hand over his face in what appeared to be worry. "The crime downtown, it's grown so massively in these last few months--there was a goddamn scene only a few blocks from your office last week!" He grasped her hands, running his thumbs soothingly over her knuckles. "I can't keep going through my days wondering if you'll leave work and find your car stolen or broken into or compromised and if you'll never make it back home." The anguish in his voice, in his face, was so convincing.
She stepped closer and looped her arms around his neck. "I can change my parking permit to one for the garage. It's not that much more expensive, and it's definitely safer than street parking."
He shook his head, pulling her closer as if in protection. "It's still not enough, babe. I...I need to drop you off and pick you up, otherwise I'm afraid I'll go fucking insane."
"Babe," she whispered, sympathy glowing in her still-innocent eyes, "is that the only way you'll feel safe?"
"Yeah," he murmured.
Aelin exhaled deeply, choosing to cede this battle. "Alright. You can be my chauffeur."
"Thanks, babe." He kissed her gently. "It's for the best, it really is."
For a while longer, she believed it.
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A little over a year after she moved in with Chaol, Aelin went out with Lysandra and came home to an empty house, which made her stop for a moment. For as long as she could remember, Chaol had been home whenever she returned from going somewhere, or he'd been the one going with her, so he was there with her when she returned. So, the empty house threw her for a loop.
As did the lingering stench of cheap beer.
Still, like she'd become accustomed to doing, Aelin texted her boyfriend once she'd set down her purse. I'm home, babe. Simple and direct, the little heart punctuating the sentence a reminder that she was there and waiting for him.
He didn't respond.
It was late, later than she wanted to be awake, when he half-stumbled through the front door, the faint but unmistakable sheen of alcohol glazing his eyes.
"Hey, babe," she greeted him, tentative.
He blinked, slowly adjusting to his surroundings. "Aelin? Babe? Where are you?" His speech was clearly enunciated--perhaps he wasn't that drunk after all.
"Right here," she responded, coming to stand in front of him. "I texted you when I got home, just like you want."
"How long were you'n Lys out?" The question was casually asked.
She shrugged. "Oh, probably longer than we meant to be, but I haven't seen her in ages since we've been so busy, and I--ah!"
The sharp, burning sting of his palm across her cheek stunned her into silence.
He stared at her with huge, disbelieving eyes. "I'm so sorry, babe," he breathed, immediately folding her into his arms and spilling apology after apology. "I'm so sorry. I think I'm drunk, I don't know why I did that, god I'm so sorry, babe." He went into the kitchen and grabbed an ice pack out of the freezer, wrapped it in a towel, and settled it gingerly against the blazing red imprint on her cheek. "I'm so sorry," he repeated.
She believed him when he said that, too. She kept believing him the next time, and the next time, and the next time. He loves me, she told herself as she concealed the bruises with artistic makeup and stylish clothing. He isn't himself. He's drunk.
Are you sure he isn't himself? pushed a tiny little voice in the back of her mind. Or are you just believing him because he'll hurt you worse if you disagree?
She told that insidious, dangerously true voice to go fuck itself. Even if it was right, even if she was making excuses for a boyfriend who was a completely different man now that he was when she'd met him two years ago, he was still her boyfriend, and he still loved her. He said so himself.
Then she found herself pregnant, and everything changed.
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Aelin had resisted telling Chaol she was pregnant for as long as she possibly could, both out of fear that he would react badly and out of her lingering worry that she had inherited her mother's fertility struggles and might lose the pregnancy. When she made it to the second trimester, though, she couldn't wait any longer, and she told her boyfriend. She was terrified, shaking with nerves the whole time.
Chaol was floored with shock, but he reacted surprisingly well. He swore that he'd clean himself up, that he'd stop going out to clubs and bars and parties with his old frat brothers, that he'd become the man and father he needed to be.
Pretty words. Empty lies, all of it.
At six months pregnant, with her heart just about ripping out of her chest, Aelin broke up with Chaol and moved out of his townhouse into Elide's apartment. He'd tried to sober up--for about two weeks, and then he'd chosen the party life over his girlfriend and unborn child. He'd come home wasted out of his mind. He'd...he'd hurt her, and he'd been completely callous to the horror that he could have hurt the baby.
So she left.
And he followed.
He followed her to work, where he cajoled her with pretty, plaintive words to come back home. He followed her to her new neighborhood, where he pleaded with her not to cut him off from the girl he loved. He followed her on her errands, where he listed all the reasons he was sorry and how he'd do better if she just gave him one more chance. He followed her to the doctor's office when she had ultrasound appointments, where he begged her to keep him in the baby's life.
It took Lorcan Salvaterre--Elide's huge, hulking, and honestly rather terrifying boyfriend--to convince Chaol to stay the fuck away from Aelin, who clearly didn't want to see him any more.
A month before Lana was born, Aelin left Adarlan for good, telling no one, and flew back home to Orynth. She changed her phone number, her email address, deleted her rarely-touched Instagram account, bought a new laptop and wiped the old one clean before discarding it. Her cousin Aedion gave her his spare room, no questions asked, and provided the steady, stable support she needed during the last month of her pregnancy, through her birth, and through her recovery.
Over the flurry of months that turned too quickly into years, Aelin found herself slowly healing, the cracks in her fragile heart repaired with the love of her family and friends and the all-consuming love she bore for her daughter. She grew more secure; she laid aside the tension and anxiety that she'd turn around one day to find Chaol behind her, ready to barge back into her life and steal everything she'd come to love.
She should have known that he would hold a grudge.
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"What the fuck are you doing here?" The words spilled out of Aelin in a breathless gasp.
Standing opposite her in the parking lot of the grocery store, Chaol lifted his hands to placate her. "I'm not here to cause any trouble, babe."
"Like hell you are." Her vehemence came as a surprise. "I'm not falling for your bullshit lies anymore, Chaol. Why are you here?"
His face hardened. "You've kept my daughter away from me for years, and you have the fucking nerve to ask me what I'm doing?" He laughed coldly. "She's mine too, Aelin."
"She will never be your daughter," Aelin hissed. "You forfeited any claim you might have had when you...when you ab-ab-abused me." The last words came out in a halting rasp.
"Don't be dramatic," he condescended. "I admit I've had troubles with anger management, but I would never consciously hurt the girl I loved, and I'd certainly never abuse her."
Her jaw slacked in disbelief. "You are such a liar," she breathed. He isn't worth your time, her inner voice reminded her, and so she breathed deeply and ended the interaction. "Go home, Chaol. Don't you ever step foot in my personal space again."
Chaol followed her to Aedion's house, because he just didn't know how to stop or when to take no for an answer. He stayed outside the house, too smart to pull into the driveway and trespass on private property, but too stubborn to admit defeat.
"I'm terrified, Aeds," Aelin admitted after dinner, curled up in a tight, tense ball on the couch. "He just...he's not going to just disappear."
"He will if I make him," Aedion growled. "Bastard."
"Language," she chided, shooting a sharp look at Lana, who was happily throwing foam blocks around the living room. "That's all kinds of illegal, Aeds."
"Legal and illegal don't matter when your probably-psychotic ex is stalking you, Aelin."
She was quiet, knowing that her cousin spoke the truth. "I won't let him force me to run."
"But you want to leave, anyway."
"Yes." She nodded, firmly. "Only for a little while. It'll be like a vacation, just me and Lana. It'll leave you and your...friends...free to handle the Chaol situation."
He propped his chin on one fist and latched his solemn gaze onto hers. "Are you sure, Ae?"
"I am." Despite the deep-seated fear glimmering behind her veil of conviction, Aelin's voice was strong.
"Okay." Rising, Aedion wrapped Aelin into a breath-stealing hug. Just soft enough for her to hear, he whispered one word into her ear.
Doranelle.
The mountain city was just over 500 miles away. It had been on Aelin's vacation bucket list for years, and she'd never made it out there.
"Lodging?"
"Here." He scrawled a phone number on a piece of scrap paper. "One of my buddies always rattles on about this place."
"Okay." She gave him a hesitant but genuine smile and headed down to her room to pack and make a reservation.
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Rowan had the night shift at the B&B that week, because he had stupidly gone and agreed to switch shifts with Enda. Lesson learned: never trust a man who says he prefers stay-home nights. Most guests came in and out during the daytime and early evening hours, though, so he didn't entirely mind the night shift. It was just a pain having to stay half-awake in case he was called to the front desk.
As if the thought had summoned it, the buzzer went off. Rowan suppressed a tired sigh and walked out to the reception desk, sliding a toned-down version of his customer service smile onto his face. That smile morphed into something damn near awe when he saw the impossibly beautiful woman waiting at the front desk.
He shook himself out of that highly unprofessional thought. "Hello."
"Hi." Through her exhaustion, the woman could barely muster a tiny hint of a smile. "I'm here to check in. Aelin Galathynius?" She held out her driver's license and credit card.
He typed the name into the computer and nodded. "Three nights, yes?"
"Yes."
"Perfect." He checked her ID. Aelin Galathynius, a poetically lovely name fit for such a stunning woman. "Do we have permission to keep this credit card on file for incidentals for the duration of your stay?"
"Yes."
"Thank you." He typed something else. "All right, Ms. Galathynius, you're all checked in." He passed back her ID and credit card and handed her a key--a real metal key. "You'll be in room 203."
"Thank you." She offered him another tiny, tired smile and went back out to her car. In a handful of minutes, she reentered, pulling two suitcases and a toe bag behind her. And carrying a fast-asleep little girl with the exact same hair and face structure as hers.
Rowan had seen a vast myriad of travelers passing through the B&B throughout the years his family had owned the place--families, single people, friends, students, commuters, the list was endless. He liked to think he'd grown proficient at reading the stories on the travelers' faces as they passed through; he liked to imagine what could have brought them to scenic, picturesque Doranelle.
The woman--Aelin--the exhaustion on her face and the tender protectiveness with which she cradled her child told a story Rowan had never wanted to see again. Hers was a story of pain that followed in her footsteps, but also of the incredible strength it took to push forward and of the powerful love she clearly had for her child.
He didn't know Aelin. He doubted he ever would know her, other than as a guest passing through the Whitethorn family's B&B.
In that moment, though, Rowan knew that he would do anything that that woman wanted, whether his actions would be known or not.
Even make the demons from her past disappear.
"Stay a while," he whispered after Aelin had gone upstairs. "It's safe here. You are safe here."
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clockwork-fayz · 11 months
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In honor of me finally reading Kingdom of Ash, here’s what I think the core group of characters sexuality meters are:
Aelin: 60% attracted to masculine men, 30% to herself, and 10% to women that act like herself
Rowan: 100% straight (sadly, but like he had a whole cadre of beautiful men and never once thought about it? SMH) but also 100% approves of everyone’s sexualities. You could say you are attracted to large ships and he’d be like okay, good for you!
Dorian: 40% attractive to any person with a pulse, 60% attracted to people that can kill him
Manon: 90% attracted to herself, 10% to Dorian but like reluctantly
Chaol: 90% straight, 10% Dorian
Yrene: 95% straight, 5% Aelin
Aedion: 100% poly
Lysandra: 50% to Aedion and 50% to Wesley but never had felt anything towards anyone besides that
Lorcan: 100% Elide (anything he felt for Maeve was actually the feeling of desperation disguised as attraction)
Elide: 100% the most toxic ass people (She says she can change them and she’s right actually)
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lorcandidlucienwill · 7 months
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Chaorene vs Feysand Pregnancy
A lot of people have pointed out that Feyre’s pregnancy trope is awful, but I haven’t seen anyone compare it to Yrene’s yet and I think it would help a lot of people understand the countless problems with it. First let’s discuss Yrene’s pregnancy: Yrene's baby was a regular human baby so it carried minimal risk to her life. Actually, she hid her pregnancy initially because she didn't want Chaol to worry, but clearly, the baby was entirely her choice. But even after Chaol found out, it didn't stop Yrene from healing a bunch of people on a daily basis, including removing Valg from human bodies. Chaol had an insane amount of faith in her, so much faith that even though he was worried as hell, he trusted Yrene to take on the DEMON KING Erawan which she did and won because she is a baddie. Even Lorcan points out that he's "not sure Yrene is human" because she's such a queen. Clearly, being pregnant didn't stop her from taking action. Now let's discuss Feyre's pregnancy: Feyre was complaining about being seen as a "trophy wife" by Tamlin (I just don't see this at all but go figure), yet after being constantly objectified by Rhysand, being sexually assaulted, and playing his whore, she finds herself a year later isolated from everybody, forced to walk around with a heavy shield and unable to go anywhere without heavy protection, forced to hide her pregnancy from everyone until it was "deemed safe," and she was unaware of the fact that her baby will most likely kill her. Rhysand threatened Nesta into not telling and when she did tell her (as was in her right), he nearly killed her. Not to mention Rhysand was acting like a possessive asshole, antagonizing everybody who got anywhere near her. But canonically, Feyre is very powerful. So why the hell doesn't he trust her? Why does he isolate her? Yet I see Chaol get an insane amount of hate from this fandom and Rhysand doesn't get nearly enough. Yrene's pregnancy is inspiring. Feyre's pregnancy is the upholding of toxic masculinity and underlies the major problems with pro-choice advocacy. It's amazing that both are written by the same author. But it shows that SJM is capable of writing a proper story if she actually tries.
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whitedemon-ladydeath · 8 months
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SJM + Eugenics + Ableism in her Writing
thinking about how insidious eugenics can come up in writing- specifically SJMs writing. Personally I take a lot with a grain of salt bec I don't think a lot of ppl realize how fucking deeply entrenched and rooted it is in everything and more often than not its not intentional
and to an extent I don't think it was intentional by SJM. she does have a degree of plausible deniability in her story telling
however that being said:
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the Cauldron "pairing mates" has allusions to being a breeding program of some kind of supernatural predestined idiocy. Sam + Melissa on Tiktok have some pretty great videos on it
However, while they think that SJM is providing commentary on the matter, I do have a different view, not that I really disagree with what they're saying
SJM has a track record of using disabilities as an aesthetic for her characters. It's often a point of suffering and/or there ends up being a magical fix (yay fantasy eugenics providing miracle cures!!! /sarcasm)
Chaol, severely injured with a spinal cord injury that left him paralyzed goes to the super special healing place to have the world's bestest healers where the magical healing trope + black girl magic collide. He spends the whole book, a duration of only six months, regaining the ability to walk, with a cane most days. Chaol spends a large part of the book feeling sorry for himself and immasculting himself. Yerene, a professional trained healer who helps him with PT snaps at him in frustration to "just get up" when he's being difficult with her Note: some of these detailed may be incorrectly remembered + I never finished the book bec I can't stand him
Lucien: he gets his eye ripped out and is literally blinded but now he has a magical eye that is even better and can sense magic and spells and all that good shit
Rhys: chronic pain; never addressed
Azriel: scarred hands and wings, but so far we've seen no real struggle or accommodation of any kind or even a real discussion on how he had to learn how to fly at an older age due to his captivity and scarred wings
Cassian: his wings were beyond shredded but between books they got fixed up right as rain. it would have been fantastic rep for this decorated veteran and leader to be disabled, esp for a culture of warriors where flying is so crucial + where thr women are also forceably mutilated and can't fly either
speaking of the illyrian women
the Illyrian Women: not being able to fly and use their limbs is a disability. We have seen zero repercussions of Emeries father (and brother(?)) for disabling and mutilating his daughter
the mental health crisis of NESTA for ONE. in both the Fandom and in the series the grating toxic positivity and lack of patience and understanding and support and willingness to meet her halfway enraged me holy shit. The tone policing, the lack of autonomy, the unaddressed childhood trauma that has made Nesta the core of who she was. it was vile and disgusting
Aelin: quite frankly should have difficulty moving as fluidly as she does. she was whipped to ribbons and beaten bloody. Her back should be full of chronic pain and difficulty
Elide: as far as I'm aware Elide isn't too bad and she's incredibly intelligent and resourceful but it's been a hot minute since I've read the series. I do remember when they talked about it at the end about possibilities to heal her ankle (they couldn't)
I haven't read CC yet but I heard that LIMBS CAN GROW BACK???? sure let's just completely erase and magically fix imputations I guess?
I find it a lit harder to forgive "accidental eugenics" when her disabled characters disabilities are either made into Aesthetics, not properly addressed, or just healed all together
and when you pair magical eugenics + aesthetics:
You get Rhysand, the most powerful high lord of ever that you just have to keep being told is the most powerful high lord ever due to his parents being mates that his father whisked away from moments before she became mutilated like all the other Illyrian Women at 18 years old to a 900 year old man
you get his entire IC who is made of The Night Courts super special powerful clique who now happen to be the most powerful illyrian EVERRRR (Cassian + Azriel), Amren who was some trapped angel of death or something and Mor who is just so super powerful a mountain quaked or something when she was born
the entire IC is a concentrated powerhouse who also uses a specific mindset of "might is right"-
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-and have forced others hands across the entire series or just outright lied and stole. also trespassing and routinely breaking laws but hey
Rowan, Aelin, Aedion, Dorian, Manon are all ToG Powerhouses. Rowan is described as the "most powerful full blooded fae male alive". there's an implication that human blood "weakens" fae traits and magical abilities [this is rather common in a lot of fantasy books]
every single character in this series is seen as some sort of extraordinary person with some sort of extraordinary power or ability aside from maybe a few. Hell Chaol, the only fully human character with no powers is the "Captian of the Guard" which he got bec he's a nepo baby from being Dorians friend. He gets disabled and they immediately go to get him fixed
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abruisedmuse · 2 months
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Now look I've been an Elain's book is next truther since I finished Acosf. So what I'm about to say I still think this is what shes hinting at, but damn wouldn't it be hilarious if she's not hinting Elain and it's Tamlin. And Tamlin gets a redemption arc a la the Chaol special with Briar as the love interest. Then the next book is Elain and Lucien. If the novella still happens it's Azriel.
I would laugh so hard. Shows this toxic fandom that she really gives zero fucks about your ship war.
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nikethestatue · 2 months
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I have a very hard time understanding why the fandom thinks there is going to be so many bait and switches with ACOTAR series.
The books are entertaining, but they’re not very cerebral. Even if you use the first book as an example of Sarah changing love interests, upon not so close reflection, there are a lot of red flags and foreshadowing of the change away from Tamlin.
I compare these books to “fancy fast food restaurants”(Shake shack, In n’out, chipotle) in that, you’re not getting a truly gourmet experience, but you consume the food to make yourself feel good. It’s not that complex, but it does the job. We aren’t reading Virgin Wolfe or Margaret Attwood.
Why do you think this author’s and this series’ fandom is so toxic? Do you find it very different from other young adult book fandoms?
Yes, i think some are very fixated on the whole 'oh she changes LI thing' but she legit changed a LI ONCE--from Feylin to Feysand, and there were plenty of indicators that that's how it's gonna go anyway.
No way anyone actually believed that Aelin is gonna stay with Chaol for 7 books. Come on. I never felt that that was a 'switch'. The relationship with Chaol ran its course and she met someone else, and on they went. Also Chaol was painfully unmagical and painfully human. A nice guy, but nothing special. You KNEW that someone like Aelin would be getting someone mighty and immortal and Fae.
So no, I dont think that SJM does a lot of baits and switches. If you read carefully, everything is usually set up way in advance.
As for the tensions and toxicity in the fandom--hers isnt the only one, tbh. And if I am being truthful, it's the influx of Gwynriels with the last book that caused this whole thing. Before, you quietly shipped who you shipped, there wasn't much hatred going on. If you liked Nessian, you liked Nessian. And if you liked Feysand, you liked them.
I think ACOSF was a book that caused a lot of dissent in its core, because it's essentially set Nesta up against the IC (stupid choice, and even if SJM didnt meant that, that's what came out). Suddenly, Nessians started hating Feysands. And then Gwynriel came up with their fairytale, began yelling about it on every street corner and haven't stopped, though they are quieter now. The length of time between books, author's silence and complete disengagement don't help either.
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You’re on queen of shadows and still think he did nothing wrong?! I agree that he didn’t in crown of midnight, but in QoS he is such a DICK! I guess he didn’t like actually do something wrong, but his attitude rubs me the wrong way. He’s giving toxic, I feel threatened by powerful women vibes
Yeah, so true bestie. He's so toxic for giving up everything and fighting for the city he grew up in to not be destroyed and trying to save Dorians life. He should absolutely bow at Aelins feet when she strolls back in, blames him for Sorcha and Dorians demise, tells Chaol she's going to kill Dorian, and threatens over and over to destroy Rifthold because she hates it. And he's such an ASSHOLE for not being able to read her mind or know the details of the magical happenings, or being able to keep up with her endless secrets.
And like yeah he still does everything she tells him to do but he should have been more obsessed with her about it because Aelin is NEVER wrong and NEVER makes mistakes or misjudges people and she's definitely never impulsive to a destructive degree.
And like- I absolutely get this since no one ever complains that Rowan let's her do whatever she wants with no pushback, which Chaol is doing and is, I guess, also wrong and toxic.
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city-of-sjm · 8 months
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Probably an unpopular opinion,
My comfort listen for driving long distances is Tower of Dawn…..
Because it’s not an overly taxing and intense book, like with Empire of Storms or Kingdom of Ash, I would become a hazard to others on the road.
Also I have grown to like Chaol, he made a mistake and he grew up with loads of hatred and and prejudice. I’m not making excuses but I do understand, I grew up in a very conservative part of the US that has a lot of hate, prejudice, toxic masculinity. When it’s all around you it’s take a constant effort to think/act differently Anyway……
Tower of Dawn, has action, has romance, is calmer placed, a good driving book.
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mapetitetetefolle · 1 year
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I made a meme about what would probably happen if you had your period with your ToG boyfriend.
That's how I knew that Chaol was a toxic man since book 1 🙄.
(NOTE: please but PLEASE! don't feel offended it's just my opinion about characters that don't exist, it's not personal)
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385bookreviews · 3 months
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1.72.3 Crown of Midnight by Sarah J Maas
SPOILERS
Pages: 418
Time Read: 7 hours and 8 minutes
Overall Rating: ★★★★★ Storyline: ★★★★★ Dialogue: ★★★★★ Characters: ★★★★★
Genre: YA Fantasy
TWs for the book: Death, murder, violence, blood, grief, gore, injury, torture, slavery, kidnapping, death of a parent, assassination, body horror, confinement, war, genocide, colonization, physical abuse, classism, toxic friendship, misogyny/sexism, su*c*dal thoughts/su*c*de attempt, toxic relationship, gaslighting, animal harm, hunting, minor s*xual content, cursing, stalking, abandonment, mentions of r*pe, panic attacks, self harm, mentions of drug abuse
POV: Third person
Time Period/Location: Rifthold, the capital of Adarlan, in the fictional world of Erilea.
First Line: The shutters swinging in the storm wind were the only sign of her entry.
Celaena Sardothien has been the King's Champion for a couple of months at this point, and has already been on five assassination missions for the King. However, she has faked all of their deaths. The King then gives her a mission in Rifthold to kill Archer Finn, a courtesan she knew from growing up at the Assassin's Keep, as he suspects him to be a part of a rebel plot. Her friendship with Chaol has grown during this time, and she takes him with her to "accidentally" bump into Archer. Chaol is jealous by how closely they bond, and starts to realize his feelings for her. Celaena attempts to go to the library and finds what appears to be a cloaked person standing there, and it growls at her. The Eye of Elena begins to glow, and the creature runs off. She goes down into the tomb to seek answers from Elena, only to discover that the bronze skull knocker on the door can talk, and his name is Mort. He tells her that Elena wants her to find the evil in the castle. Dorian's cousin Roland arrives in the castle, wearing a black ring like Perrington and the King, and Celaena immediately dislikes him, even though he is trying desperately hard to gain Dorian's trust. Celaena and Archer go to dinner, and she tells him that she was sent by the King to assassinate him. Archer pleads for his life, saying he has no involvement in the rebel plots, but that some of his clients do, and that he knows that they want to find Aelin Ashryver Galathynius, the heir to the throne of Terrasen, and use her to overthrow the King of Adarlan. Celaena gives him till the end of the month to get his affairs in order and to give her as much information as possible about the conspirators. He begins by taking her to a ball held by one of his clients, Davis, and she sneaks into his office and discovers a book on Wyrdmarks. In the back, she finds written, "It is only with the eye that one can see rightly." Davis catches her snooping and cuts her with a dagger that was covered in gloriella, a paralytic poison. She manages to kill him and make it back to the castle in time to tell Chaol to give her the antidote. Celaena then involves Nehemia, asking her to teach her to read the Wyrdmarks and help her solve the riddle. They go down to Elena's tomb, and discover that when standing on a constellation of the Stag, a hollowed out eye appeared in the wall. They both looked through it, but discovered nothing. Chaol and Celaena grow closer, and Celaena takes him out for a romantic dinner. She confesses that she hasn't actually been killing her targets, and Chaol is angry but ultimately chooses to be with her, saying he'll leave Rifthold with her one day. They have a lot of s*x over the following week.
Celaena and Nehemia get into a heated argument where Nehemia calls her a coward for refusing to help her plan to overthrow the King. Chaol is then kidnapped, and Celaena is left with a ransom note. She goes to a warehouse and kills 15 men before she is stopped by Archer. He tells her that Nehemia founded their rebel group, and that he had heard that she was going to be interrogated by Chaol and the King that day so they kidnapped him in an attempt to stop it and to show Celaena that Chaol had kept secret the fact that Nehemia's life was threatened. Celaena races back to the castle and finds Nehemia tortured to death. She attacks Chaol, blaming him for her death, and Dorian uses magic to stop her from killing him. Chaol puts her in the dungeons for a few days, where Kaltain tells her that Duke Perrington is taking her to Morath to be his wife, and that Roland will be going with them. When Chaol releases her from the dungeons, she sinks into heavy grief and refuses to speak to anyone. She then deduces that Grave, an assassin from the competition to be Champion, must have killed Nehemia, and she uses the tunnels to sneak out and kill him. She brings his head before the King, accuses the lord that was his sponsor in the competition of hiring him to kill Nehemia, and she gives him a list of the 15 men she killed from Archer's group. She solves the riddle talking about the eye and uses the pommel of King Gavin's sword Damaris to see another riddle written on the inside of the hollowed out eye. It is a map to to finding three powerful objects. She goes to a the carnival being held in honor of Prince Hollin, and speaks to an Ironteeth witch named Baba Yellowlegs. The witch reveals that Dorian came asking her questions about magic, and offers to sell his questions to Celaena but she refuses. She asks her about the riddle and the witch tells her that it speaks of Wyrdkeys, three slivers of rock broken off from the Wyrdgate, the portal between worlds. They are immensely powerful individually, but with all three one can open the Wyrdgate to all sorts of different planets and dimensions. She kills the witch for knowing Dorian's secrets, and her and Dorian grow closer again.
She then investigates catacombs she found beneath the library, using Wyrdmarks to unlock the iron doors. She finds an underground prison, and then the entrance to the giant obsidian clock tower built by the King. She is turning back when she is attacked by the creature from before. Dorian, who had followed her down, runs with her, and he tries to use his magic to seal the door. It doesn't work, so he runs to find the spellbook and they use it to trap and kill the creature. Celaena realizes it has a human heart, and that it must have been human at one point. She believes the King used a Wyrdkey to make it into a monster. She discovers the meaning of the first part of the riddle and discovers the key is gone. Distraught, she grabs the spellbook and uses it to open a portal to contact Nehemia. She succeeds, but Nehemia tells her to never do it again. Just as the portal closes, Archer appears, and reveals that Nehemia showed him the tunnels and he's been spying on her for weeks. Celaena realizes on of the coded notes in Nehemia's room was saying not to trust Archer. She acts like she is on his side and is willing to give him the book and work with him, and he confesses he was the one to order Grave to kill Nehemia. She attacks him once he does, and in their fight they accidentally open a portal to another world. Dorian is warned in a dream by King Gavin that Celaena is in trouble, and he runs to get Chaol and they discover the tunnel. They arrive to see a demon attacking Celaena, Fleetfoot (Celaena's dog) hurt, and Archer chanting out of the spell book. Chaol attacks the demon, Archer flees, and Dorian drags Celaena away. Celaena knocks him out, and sees the demon drag Fleetfoot through the portal and Chaol run after her. Celaena runs into the portal and immediately shifts from a human to a Fae, and attacks the demon with fire magic. They all get to safety and Celaena uses Dorian's magic blood to close the portal. Celaena then hunts down Archer in the tunnels and kills him, bringing his head before the King.
Chaol tells his father he wants to send Celaena away to Wendlyn to assassinate the King and his son, and that if he backs him up he will return to be the Lord of Anielle. His father agrees and they propose the idea to the King. He agrees, and tells Celaena to go to Wendlyn. She is panicked, not knowing how to get out of it, but Elena tells her to go. Before she leaves, she says goodbye to Dorian, and then says goodbye to Chaol at the docks. She tells him about the Wyrdkeys and everything she's learned, and then tells him the date of her parents' death and leaves. He is confused, and researches the date, and realizes that Celaena is actually Aelin Ashryver Galathynius, lost queen of Terrasen, and he just sent her away to the land of her distant Fae relatives.
Storyline: The storyline in this book was a little slow for me, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
Representation: Nehemia is the only POC, and she has herself killed in order to motivate and progress Celaena's character, which is a huge issue I have with this book.
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theladyofbloodshed · 1 year
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It’s not that the T0G fandom is calmer, it’s that it’s not as active because it’s a finished series. But back in its hey day, it was just as toxic as the ACOTAR fandom, if not more so because LB and Morgan Rhodes stans were also involved. if SJM still plans on doing that TOG encyclopedia thing, where she said she’d throw in what the characters were doing after the end of the series, bet you’ll see it. But when people called out the racism, especially after what happened to Nehemia and then to Sorcha just one books later, they were bullied for it. When people called out the homophobia because there were only TWO gay characters in three and half books, they were bullied for it. When SJM assassinated Chaol’s character for Rowan and switched the endgame ship from Doraelin to Rowaelin and people were upset about it and calling it out for bad writing, they were bullied for it. When people called out how Malide was perfectly set up, only for them to forced into relationships with men, and after it was exposed that SJM would roll her eyes whenever someone asked about them at an event and after she said there would be a wlw ship in the book after qos aka the book with malide in it, only for it to be about a throwaway sentence about Manon’s grandmother, they were bullied for it.
SJM’s fandom has always been toxic because she’s the one who makes it that way. It will never get better until SJM acknowledges her own hypocrisy and that what she’s written has been harmful, but since she even refuses to take questions about these things, it’s never going to happen.
Big yiiiiiiikes!!! I didn't know she'd said there'd be a wlw ship. That's so pathetic to use that, knowing it will hook readers who want to see representation and then get a throwaway sentence... and wasn't her grandmother an absolutely terrible person?!
I've only read tog once but isn't aedion mentioned to be bisexual but then has no interest in any males in the story?
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longsightmyth · 1 year
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I think my problem with Sarah's writing is how hypocritical it is. The Tool definitely has red flags in ACOTAR, but he's like the LEAST problematic of all Sarah's male love interests save Chaol. At least he doesn't punch Feyrug in the face (looking at you, Rowboat) or betray her (like H/unt) or spend months drugging and groping her (like Riceman). It's a low bar, but The Tool clears it. But if Sarah can see that he's still toxic, why can't she tell any of her other WORSE love interests are?
Protagonist centered morality.
Though I am on record as thinking the punch to the face was excusable (though by no means romantic) since it was in response to Celaena saying his people deserved genocide.
Also Chaol got exponentially more toxic when Sarah Janet decided he should be an endgame love interest for SOMEBODY, which says some questionable things about the entire process.
But also, Yrene was a dick to chaol. We have LAYERS here! NO ONE IS FREE FROM SIN.
(This is a lie, Lysandra, Evangeline, Sorscha, and Elide are free from sin. Also Lehaba, for obvious reasons)
(Manon was almost free from sin, we were so close)
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gwyns · 3 months
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It seems like e/riel’s can’t handle Gwyn’s popularity. I wasn’t in the fandom when Silver Flames came out, but apparently within a week of the book being released there was tons of fan art and praise towards her character. Gwyn really does seem to be loved by many in the fandom. The only people I’ve seen that are anti Gwyn are e/riel’s, which to me, is both sad and embarrassing. Not liking a character is fine, but not liking a character only because they’re a potential love interest is so stupid. They can’t come up with a reason as to why they’re so anti with her character other than she’s possibly a love interest. I have seen a few though that make fun of Gwyn by calling her “ribbon cutter” because of her being tied to Illyria and how she’s going to “save Illyria”, which I don’t think any Gwynriel has even said that she would. Most E/riel’s give off toxic mean girl behavior. Gwyn is probably the most unproblematic character in the series.
hey look it popped back up! first, let me link my previous post about this here. now, onto the rest of your message...
i have never seen any gwynriel say that gwyn will "save" illyria. literally no one wants that lol we don't want a white savior story. i've only ever seen gwynriels discuss her being there with az to help try and sort out the conflict there, that's it. anyone with half an ounce of critical thinking would understand that it's better if someone who is actually illyrian helped settle that matter
gwyn is literally the most unproblematic character in this series, like genuinely the saying "they did nothing wrong ever" only applies to her and emerie in my opinion. like i love other characters and personally think they acted in the best ways they could at times so i don't fault them for any of it, but you hopefully know what i mean
e/riels are the most toxic group i've ever encountered but unfortunately the sjm fandom as a whole has become very toxic. not to sound my age but i miss the old days when it was more about discussing the books in a healthy manner and sharing things you created for it. were there arguments? sure. did people have bad taste even then? as a chaol stan, i can fully say yes, but it was never this bad. it upsets me, like i've said before, this fandom used to be my safe space. it brought me so much joy and now it just makes me anxious most of the time. of course there are beautiful people here and i appreciate every single one of you but it can be tough some days, as i'm sure we're all aware
but, and not to sound too dramatic, we'll get through it together and be stronger because of it 🥰
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whitedemon-ladydeath · 7 months
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New Blog Bio:
I do not tolerate pro-israel, zionist shit anywhere near me. I don't tolerate anti semitism anywhere near me. I will not tolerate anyone who is upholding or supporting the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians. if you do, BLOCK ME
if ur gonna follow or interact with my blog pls realize I am very critical towards most acotar content, especially if it involves Rhysand. I am more-or-less a Rhys Anti until further notice and I am hard-core side eye towards Cassian until Rhysand is held accountable for being a shitty person for more than like *checks notes* two pages
I'm not a Tamlin Stan, nor do I particularly care for him, but I have been engaging in thoughtful criticisms of his actions often which involves character analysis so you v likely will see that pop up every now and then
likely you will find:
anti Rhysand
anti/critical IC
anti/critical/pro feyre
anti/critical Cassian posts, maybe MAYBE pro cassian
critical/pro Azriel- I'm pretty neutral towards him
anti/critical/pro elain content [often. w/o being tied to a ship]
pro Lucien
pro Nesta
pro Eris
most pro tog characters
anti/critical chaol (he just annoys me with his high horse)
Pro Ships:
Azriel/Eris/Nesta
Tamsand (lmao)
Feylin [book one]
Elucien
Nesta/Lucien [idk the ship name]
Feycien
Feyssian
Mesta
most tog ships
aelin/manon
malide
chaorian
Anti Ships:
Nessian
Feysand
Elriel
lysaedion
chaolena
My Specific ACoTaR Meta:
SJM + Eugenics + Ableism in her Writing
CoN + the Eternal Perpetuation of Abuse and Toxicity
SJM and the vilification of Ireland in acotar and tog
SJM could have had the HLs give their power to resurrect her wo Rhys forcing them if she played by Faerie Rules
Rhys physically assaulted Nesta
Class Warfare + Class Traitors in ACoTaR
Rhysand + Morally Grey Behavior
My Meta / Aus / etc Posts
tag -> #justice for poor cassian and poor archeron Sisters
tag -> #glasses!elain propaganda
tag -> #slavic archeron Sisters au
tag -> #fix cassians characterization challenge
tag -> #scottish!tamlin
tag -> #welsh!rhys
tag -> #disabled!Cassian
tag -> #my acotar world building
tag -> #appropriated faerie lore in acotar
tag -> #hybern Ireland
tag -> #white feminism in acotar
tag -> #eugenics in acotar
tag -> #eugenics in tog
tag -> #classism in acotar
Other Acotar Meta:
Mor SA'd Cassian
tag -> #acotar tiktok meta
tag -> #acotar meta
tag -> #racism in acotar
tag -> #Nesta is not an alcoholic send tweet
Other:
A Synopsis of The Ballad of Tam Lin
If You're interested:
Mission to have my own Bookstore:
tag -> #mission: cheshire books
TVDverse:
leave season 1 Caroline ALONE. she deserved better 🥺
Damon and Rose's Friendship that is ALL
Esther is Mikaels victim too stop this irritating 'Esther is the real villain'
tag -> #can we stop the overt vilification of Esther Mikaelson and the UwUization of Mikael Mikaelson
tag -> #tvd tiktok edits
tag -> #Damon Salvatore
tag -> #Caroline Forbes
tag -> #Vincent Griffith
tag -> #Shelia Bennett
Shadow and Bone / Six of Crows:
The Darkling Meta
tag -> #David kostyk
Once Upon a Time
tag -> #cora mills
The Hunger Games / A Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes:
Coriolanus Snow Meta
tag -> #thg tiktok meta
tag -> #coriolanus snow
tag -> #reaper ash
tag -> #wovey
Percy Jackson
tag -> #nico di Angelo
completely irrelevant:
tag -> #rural iowa
more to be added!
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