#chelsea quinn yarbro

[fanaticsfiction]

Authors Convinced Fanfic is Illegal/Requires Permission

Terry Goodkind: “Copyright law dictates that in order for me to protect my copyright, when I find such things, I must go out and hire lawyers to threaten these people to make them stop, and to sue them if they don’t.”

John Scalzi: “Let's remember one fundamental thing about fanfic: Almost all of it is entirely illegal to begin with. It's the wild and wanton misappropriation of copyrighted material”

Diana Gabaldon: “OK, my position on fan-fic is pretty clear: I think it’s immoral, I know it’s illegal, and it makes me want to barf whenever I’ve inadvertently encountered some of it involving my characters.”

Robin Hobb: “Fan fiction is like any other form of identity theft. It injures the name of the party whose identity is stolen.”

Anne Rice: “I do not allow fan fiction. The characters are copyrighted. It upsets me terribly to even think about fan fiction with my characters. I advise my readers to write your own original stories with your own characters. It is absolutely essential that you respect my wishes.”

Anne McCaffrey: “there can be no adventure/stories set on Pern at all!!!!! That's infringing on my copyright and can bear heavy penalties…indiscriminate usage of our characters, worlds, and concepts on a 'public' media like electronic mail constitute copyright infringement AND, which many fans disregard, is ACTIONABLE!”

Chelsea Quinn Yarbro: “No. Absolutely not. It is also against federal law.”

Lynn Flewelling: “Whether you are writing about Seregil or Fox Mulder or Sherlock Holmes, if you do not have legal permission from the author, their estate, or publisher, then you are violating US copyright law. It is creative piracy. Doesn't matter how many disclaimers you put on, or if you're being paid. It. Is. Illegal.”

Someone Else, elaborated in the notes

#anne rice #chelsea quinn yarbro #anne mccaffrey #terry goodkind #john scalzi #diana gabaldon #robin hobb #lynn flewelling

[basicallyanotherwitchesthing]

Chelsea Quinn Yarbro - Floating Illusion - Harper & Row - 1986 (jacket art by Michael Garland)

#witches #floaters #occult #vintage #floating illusions #harper & row #chelsea quinn yarbro #michael garland #1986

[sharkchunks]

That movie was definitely a LOOSE adaptation.

#hotel transylvania #adam sandler #chelsea quinn yarbro #books #movies

[dramyhsturgis]

In my latest "Looking Back on Genre History" segment on the StarShipSofa podcast, I discuss Library of America's recent "Back to The Future Is Female!" event and some of the works of science fiction related to it.

#science fiction #starshipsofa podcast #StarShipSofa #feminist SF #SFF #lisa yaszek #chelsea quinn yarbro #sheree renee thomas #pamela sargent #the future is female #library of america

[theamazingstories]

NAMETAGS REVISITED (Column 24 redux)

NAMETAGS REVISITED (Column 24 redux)

Figure 1  – MidAmeriCon 1976 nametag by George Barr I was away all last weekend and, for various reasons, I don’t have a brand-new column this week, but since I was at Spocon 2022 in Spokane WA, I figure it’s a good excuse. At the “tag end” of this column, I’ll speak a little bit about Spocon 2022. Otherwise, you’ll be treated (?) to a repetition of a column from my first year with Amazing…

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#Amazing Stories #Anders Bellis #Bea Taylor #C. J. Cherryh #Charles Brown #Chelsea Quinn Yarbro #Column 355 #Conventions #David Eddings #Dena Brown #Denvention #Denver #Donald Grant #Donna Bailley #Dragon Dronet #Edmond Hamilton #Forry Ackerman #Frank Herbert #George Barr #Glenn Lord #Hugo Awards #Jane Fancher #Jim Young #Jon Gustafson #Kansas City #Kelly Freas #Leigh Brackett #Len Wein #Liz Wilmerding #Margie Ellers

[olreid]

[ID 1: But since vampires are immortal, they are free to change incessantly. Eternally alive, they embody not fear of death, but fear of life: their power and their curse is their undying vitality. From Varney to Dracula (particularly as Bela Lugosi intones him), from Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's disenchanted idealist, Count Saint-Germain, to Lestat and his friends, vampires long to die, at least in certain moods, infecting readers with fears of their own interminable lives.

ID 2: Vampires are neither inhuman nor nonhuman nor all-too-human; they are simply more alive than they should be. end ID]

nina auerbach, our vampires, ourselves

#currently reading #making monsters #mocked with death

[olderthannetfic]

Wait I’m genuinely curious about the mechanisms of this - so I know about ao3 and copyright law, but what about zines? I think the earliest are from the 1970s but how have they, as a media form, survived for so long if they’re also technically breaking the law by profiting off an IP? I get a lot are for charity and companies would be reluctant to sue projects for charity but I’ve seen some being sold that aren’t?

And also what about authors who post early updates on patreon or have patreon exclusive fics? That surely has to break copyright law?

Possibly answering my own question but maybe it’s because companies don’t care about this but I also did live through Nintendo viciously taking down let’s plays because they thought it breached their copyright by disincentivising people from playing the games?

Companies can be really strict about their IPs, so I’m really curious as to how this is happening and how people are protecting their works.

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Getting away with shit and shit being legal are two very different things. ;)

And, to be fair, shit being illegal and companies threatening you with legal action are also very different things.

The oldschool ones were not for charity. You could make a fair use argument, but most zines survive simply because rights holders don't bother to go after them. Small print runs of physical objects are often not seen as significant enough to bother with. Zine makers often argue that they're only charging because they need to cover the printer's bill. Some prices on old zines bear this out; others don't.

Plenty of zines did get shut down by rights holders, however, from big-for-sff-publishing names like Chelsea Quinn Yarbro to Hollywood types like George Lucas. The reasons ranged from "My historical figure vampire is super original and your random-ass zine is endangering my copyright" (Fuck you, CQY. I'm never reading a page of your crap!) to "I just don't like Luke/Leia for some reason but won't tell you why" (LOL). I hear Lucas went after horny zines in general too. I wasn't around for any of this, obviously, but there are writeups online, including on Fanlore.

I presume modern zines benefit from the greater awareness around fair use and around bad press from suppressing fanworks, but they could still be in danger from big rights holders. Being legal or illegal is less important than who has the money for lawyers. Sometimes, a fan can get a big corp to back off by brazening it out, but you have to tell them your legal name and go "Come at me, bro!" Who wants to do that?

Fic Patreons are not only on shaky legal ground, but Patreon does not allow that use of the site. It's a private company, not a public service, and it can pretty much do as it pleases. Here are the guidelines in part:

Restrictions We don’t allow creations and benefits that violate our terms or policies. You can learn more by visiting our Community Guidelines and Benefit Guidelines. A high level summary of those rules is that we don’t allow:

illegal creations or benefits;

creations or benefits that are abusive towards other people;

creations or benefits that use others’ intellectual property, unless you have written permission to use it, or your use is protected as fair use;

or creations or benefits with real people engaging in sexual acts.

If your fans include people under the age of 18, then please remind them that they need their parent’s or legal guardian’s permission to purchase an offering or membership subscription on Patreon, and that those under the age of 13 cannot use Patreon. We are not required to allow any particular person or group of persons to be a patron or otherwise access Patreon services.

Now, yes, they do make an exception for fair use, but I doubt they'll side with the majority of fanworks creators on their particular Patreon works counting as fair use. (Actually, they might be more lenient on RPF. That "real people" rule is about porn starring live actors, not about RPF.) They might rule in favor of the person selling their fic on there, but they very well might not, and even if you were willing to fight it out in court, you probably couldn't since Patreon would be denying you service on their site, not suing you. They can deny service to whomever they want any time they want.

I don't advocate tattling to Patreon simply because I don't think there's any social contract around respecting Patreon's wishes, nor are Patreons I don't back super visible and in my face. Patreon is built by people who get paid to do that; the extra ethical issues present on AO3 are not present here. I don't really approve, but I'm also not going to go out of my way to rat on people. However, I'm sure that fandom enemies of BNFs with Patreons do tattle. I'd advise anyone monetizing this way to have other contact info for their patrons in case they suddenly get kicked off.

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Basically, people are flying under the radar, and then periodically, there's a big drama where a rights holder or hosting site destroys everything.

[forthegothicheroine]

Should I read the Chelsea Quinn Yarbro vampire novels?

[karnsteins]

There is no such creature as “The Vampire”; there are only vampires. Walter Kendrick emphasizes the formulaic stasis of a horror genre that responds monotonously to a universal fear of death, a genre reducible to an “apparently endless recycling of a few scant materials, all assembled two hundred years ago” (p. 255). But since vampires are immortal, they are free to change incessantly. Eternally alive, they embody not fear of death, but fear of life: their power and their curse is their undying vitality. From Varney to Dracula (particularly as Bela Lugosi intones him), from Chelsea Quinn Yarbro’s disenchanted idealist, Count Saint-Germain, to Lestat and his friends, vampires long to die, at least in certain moods, infecting readers with fears of their own interminable lives. — (Our Vampires, Ourselves, Nina Auerbach)

#vampires #our vampires ourselves #nina auerbach #quote #quotes #dracula

[arwainian]

My Reading This Week

formatting changes, what do we think about italics for book titles and authors to set them apart from what I write about them? (maybe i should try color coding?)

Lots of reading this week because I had half the week off to go home for the holidays, but honestly I spent more time crocheting than reading, which I won't complain about

Finished:

Boy Oh Boy by Zachary Doss

recommended to me by @unfathomabletortoise , and I'm still rotating the themes and such of it around in my head. one that was on my mind this week was where your boyfriend lives literally inside your body. the like... "oh i'm so close to you, i'm with you all the time" but really you're not close at all you're just being used. but ALSO the intimacy of loving someone so much, physical affection as the closest substitute we have to unzipping someone else and living inside them... much to think about. as I said on my Twitter thread, I may recommend this collection to my queer scifi teacher from a few years back

Ambrosia, edited by Tab Kimpton & Jade Sarson

started reading this a while back! i will keep most of my thoughts on this private ;), but i will say I'm glad this exists

Started and Finished:

Lucky Charm by Chase Verity

this was cute, but just. so short. too short. like how short it was really worked to its detriment because I think it could have really benefitted from taking more time to flesh out the characters and their relationship. i really enjoyed the concwpt though and it made me want to look into deaf silent film stars (have yet to do so, someone remind me)

Mob Psycho 100, Vol. 9 by ONE, translated by Kumar Sivasubramanian

mp100!! i just. really like this manga. i dont have many longering thoughts from this volume except just like excitement at its existence and god i love reigen and mob and this was fun to read even if i already watched the anime

Daniel Cabot Puts Down Roots by Cat Sebastian

i was about to say i thought i didnt have much to say about this one. but then i remembered that actually i do, i even started my brand new reading journal saying stuff about it: this was cute and sweet and low stakes! i am technically in the acknowledgements of this book by virtue of being in the author's writing discord server, which she mentions! I will say, there were a few too many [typos/apparent name mix ups/one instance where a character says "fifth disease" in a bit of dialogue which was clearly just meant to be a placeholder for an actual disease to add to the list] for me to fully overlook, so i got a little bit frutrated. doesnt take away from the good character work, but did give it a bit of an unfinished feeling

Uncommon Charm by Emily Bergslien & Kat Weaver

like the above this book is more quiet vignette and low stakes character work than plot-y plot, but this book just hit Perfectly for me. i think because i loved the narrator/pov character so much. i am gently shoving this novella into my bf's hands when i next see him.

Ongoing:

Blood Sisters: Vampire Stories by Women edited by Paula Guran

La Dame by Tanith Lee Chicago 1927 by Jewelle Gomez Renewal by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro Blood Freak by Nancy Holder The Power and the Passion by Pat Cadigan The Unicorn Tapestry by Suzy McKee Charnas This Town Ain't Big Enough by Tanya Huff Vampire King of the Goth Chicks by Nancy A. Collins Learning Curve by Kelley Armstrong The Better Half by Melanie Tem Selling Houses by Laurell K. Hamilton Greedy Choke Puppy by Nalo Hapkinson Tacky by Charlaine Harris Needles by Elizabeth Bear From the Teeth of Strange Children by Lisa L. Hannett

I said last week that I had trouble sitting down and reading multiple stories from this in a row, but that was not a problem for me this time! as of writing i only have five stories left to read from this anthology, and those amount to less than 100 pages.

i've idenfitied a repeated theme (though not one present in even half the stories here) of several lady vampires presenting a sort of 'to defeat a predator you have to become one' rape-revenge sort of monster hunting fantasy. like i said, this is FAR from a uniting theme, but its an interesting motif. also several stories deal with very predatory vampires without being the above, and having read Dracula earlier this year i appreciate vampire fiction grappling with the themes of vampirism and sexual assault that were set up in the classics

#cal reading log #arwainian princessoid decrees #bookblr

[vtgscifi]

source bluemelodybooks CHELSEA QUINN YARBRO Cautionary Tales 1980 first Edition Warner Vintage Sci Fi

#bluemelodybooks #sciencefiction #scifi #vintagebook #vintagescifibook #scifibooks #bookart #retroscifi

[bookthroneking]

Book Review: The Penguin Book of Vampire Stories, edited by Alan Ryan

I finished this 600+ page monstrosity in barely a week, despite reading several books parallel to it; whenever I opened my vampire anthology, I would read at least 50 pages in one go. That good.

The late Alan Ryan was an editor of impeccable taste, as I found out here. This 1987 collection traces the origins of the vampire myth throughout the English literary canon, from the very first vampire story published in England (The Vampyre by John Polidori, but Ryan also included the story fragment by Lord Byron that Polidori based his tale on, very interesting stuff) to Ryan's contemporaries in the 80's. From the classics like Le Fanu and M. R. James to more recent horror giants like Ramsey Campbell and Richard Matheson, Ryan presents the reader with a huge variety of stories exploring the vampire's existence. Here we see the creatures of the night as repulsive, as beautiful, as terrifying, parasitic, as romantic, heroic or even funny, but never as ridiculous. Some of the stories I didn't expect to see in such an anthology (like Luella Miller by Mary Eleanor W. Freeman or Shambleau by C. L. Moore), but those provide variety from the more commonplace vampire tropes and blend in perfectly with the rest of the anthology. And there's a little appendix in the back of the book of recommended vampire books and movies, which I thought was a really nice touch.

My favorites from this collection were the darkly romantic tales: The Drifting Snow by August Derleth, Cabin 33 by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro, Tanith Lee's Bite-Me-Not or Fleur de Feu... and of course, Carmilla, the full text of which was included in this book (to my delight). Two of the stories, though, genuinely scared me, which REALLY isn't easy to do at this point: For the Blood Is the Life by Francis Marion Crawford had one of the creepiest images I've seen in a vampire story, and The Room in the Tower by E. F. Benson was just terrifying all the way through.

I really appreciate this anthology coming my way, even if I'm not a huge fan of this reprint cover in my library (what is that color choice, or that Eyesore Gothic font?!). If you're looking for a cozy, creepy Halloween read, I can't recommend it enough.

StoryGraph rating: 5

#book review #vampires #vampire books #anthology #short stories #horror #gothic literature #bookblr #my posts

[wot-tidbits]

TIDBITS AND FUN № 344

SOURCE

Letter to Carolyn Fusinato

Feb 1st, 1994

ROBERT JORDAN

Dear Carolyn,

Thank you for your letter. It is good to hear about your newsletter and the activity of my fans.

I think I need to address your question about the stories. You are right about stories set in my world or my landscape or my world's history plagiarizing my creation, and plagiarism is theft; a benign theft in the case of a fan publication, but just the same, an author's sole property rights to his creating lie in his copyright, and to infringe my copyright is to steal from me...Even if I were to set restrictions, any permission or approval from me would set a precedent that I cannot and will not set. You might agree not to use any of my characters, say, but another fan club might not be as correct as you have been regarding asking permission, yet take publication by your newsletter of stories in my world as an okay to do the same. Like Chelsea Quinn Yarbro, I might well find stories being published that do include my characters, and published to make a buck. Such would lead to all sorts of legal wrangles.

For that reason, I cannot give you such permission.

As to role playing, that is an entirely different matter. As long as there is no commercial consideration involved, feel free. With regard to sanctioning your club, I'm afraid I can't. I do not intend to sanction any fan club; there are a number of clubs, and I really can't favor one over another. I hope you understand.

Now about how evil the Forsaken are. I'm not really sure you define evil. Part of what I am writing about is just how ordinary evil is. In many ways, without the One Power, the Forsaken would be no more than Darkfriends, though perhaps a bit more than ordinary. True, their callousness toward the pain, suffering, even death of ordinary people, and the way they submerge everything and everyone in their own quest for power—and true immortality—their willingness to deliver the world to the Dark One in that quest, are shared by many who do not have their powers. The point is that they are human; they haven't gotten rid of human emotions, or human weaknesses except for a few physical ones. They are not gods, nor even demi-gods, though they seek to be and think they already are. But believe me, there is nothing they will not do to achieve their goals, no price too high to pay—especially if it is paid by someone else, or millions of someone elses. And Lanfear holding back and doing good for Rand's sake? Ha! She was psychically fixed on possessing a man who never loved her. Even with that, her desire for Rand was as much a desire for power as for him. To be the one to deliver the Dragon Reborn to the service of the Shadow; that would set her above the other Forsaken. And learning that the access ter'angreal for the two huge sa'angreal were still in existence....Sure, she wanted his love—not least because it had been denied her; Lanfear was a woman who claimed a right to anything she wanted—wanted his devotion, but even more than his body, Lanfear wanted power, the power possibly to replace the Dark One, even to replace the Creator. For Rand's sake? Not a chance.

I must say that I'm not surprised that most of your predictions didn't come out. I try to avoid doing what people expect. And I avoid answering questions, at least about what is happening in the books. If I answer some, people can begin to figure out some important things that I mean to hide simply by which I answer and which I don't. Whether you decide to go with publishing or illustration for a career—or both—good luck. Again, thanks for your letter.

With best wishes, I remain,

Sincerely,

Robert Jordan

CAROLYN FUSINATO

[in black pen Jordan wrote in script at the bottom, "P.S. Good luck with the club and the newsletter. Please keep me informed as to how things are going. I'd also love to see copies of the newsletter. I must say I am very impressed with your maturity and your skills. In short, I'm impressed with you. RJ"]

#wheel of time #tidbits #robert jordan #lanfear #the forsaken #the shadow #fan fiction

[elektramouthed]

 The Christian ideology that underlies these distinctions begins to disappear and vampires move further away from their folk-lore connections with such things as garlic and crucifixes. Rather than being the devil’s work, vampirism is explained in new ways: it might be some kind of viral infection, for example, as in Barbara Hambly’s Those Who Hunt the Night (1988), or the product of evolutionary processes, as in Suzy McGee Charnas’s The Vampire Tapestry (1980). What these new vampires do is an expression of their own condition, not of any metaphysical conflict between good and evil, and there can consequently be vampires that edge alarmingly close to the good – Chelsea Quinn Yarbro’s Saint Germain does not kill when he feeds, for example, and, in exchange for the blood he takes, offers his victim some rather good sex.

David Punter, Glennis Byron, from The Gothic

#david punter #glennis byron #the gothic #nonfiction #essays #2022 reads #*

[dramyhsturgis]

I am looking forward to this online event at 6pm Eastern on March 14, 2023!

From Pulp Era pioneers to the radical innovators of the 1960s and ’70s, visionary women writers have been a transformative force in American science fiction. For Women’s History Month, acclaimed SF authors Chelsea Quinn Yarbro, Pamela Sargent, and Sheree Renée Thomas join Lisa Yaszek, editor of LOA’s The Future Is Female!, for a conversation about the writers who smashed the genre’s gender barrier to create worlds and works that remain revolutionary. 

#science fiction #feminist sf #feminisim #genre history #sff

[books0977]

Hôtel Transylvania (Saint-Germain #1). Chelsea Quinn Yarbro. New York: St. Martin's Press, [1978]. First edition. Original dust jacket.

A fixture in 1740s Parisian society, Saint-Germain is a perfect gentleman--and a vampire. When the fiery young Madeline falls in love with him, a group of evil sorcerers targets her for their black mass--and only Saint-Germain can save her soul.

#Hôtel Transylvania #Chelsea Quinn Yarbro #first edition #original dust jacket