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Tory Nichols "The Moment of Truth" & “Pulpo” - 2x04 &  2x09
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persefoneshalott · 6 months
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zooming on Aisha's face when Tory first shows up and then having Tory admit she joined because of Aisha... what was the reason
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Cobra Kai Whumplist
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Characters: Miguel Diaz (played by Xolo Maridueña), Robby Keene (played by Tanner Buchanan)
Age Rating: TV-14
Show available on Netflix
(The styling of this whumplist is inspired by @love-me-a-lotta-whump​ who has an amazing blog, go check them out!)
Genre: Action, Drama, High-School, Ensemble, Found Family
Synopsis: Two former high-school karate rivals start their own dojos, each taking in teens who are social outcasts. 
Note: This show is a sequel of sorts to the Karate Kid movies, and even has the same actors (all grown-up, of course). It’s packed full of references, but there are enough flashbacks to the movies where general knowledge will get you through it. The characters, old and new, are compelling and the action is fun. Also SO MUCH FOUND FAMILY <3 
TW’s: severe bullying, child abuse, child neglect, blood, violence, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, mental health issues/trauma
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bold = most whump, best whump, or favorite whump scenes
~~ = scene break
THIS LIST CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR THE SERIES!
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Character: Miguel Diaz (played by Xolo Maridueña)
1x01: bullied, humiliated, kicked, shoved
1x02: thrown to the ground (comedic), groaning, using an inhaler (comedic) 
1x03: bruised knuckles ~~ zip-tied, tossed in a swimming pool (comedic) ~~ fought, beaten ~~ found, barely conscious 
1x04: carried, bloody face, in pain ~~ bruised face, band-aid on his forehead, ice pack on ribs, sore ~~ bullied
1x05: sparred, hit in the ear by a baseball (comedic), bruised ear ~~ sparred ~~ fought
1x06: shoved to the ground (comedic)
1x07: none
1x08: upset
1x09: drunk, angry
1x10: sparred
2x01: upset
2x02-2x03: none
2x04: sparred ~~ worried 
2x05-2x08: none
2x09: uncomfortable, concerned
2x10: very rough fight, bruised + bloody face ~~ rough fight, kicked off of a balcony, broken spine, unconscious ~~ in a coma, neck brace, oxygen cannula, concern for him 
3x01: in a coma, dreaming, concern for him 
3x02: still in the hospital, in pain, weak voice ~~ paralyzed, worried, teary-eyed ~~ “The doctor told my mom I might not walk again”, argued, choked-up voice, teary-eyed, crying/sobbing
3x03: still in the hospital, tired
3x04: still in the hospital, frustrated, upset ~~ frustrated, trying to walk, falls on the ground
3x05: physical therapy ~~ in a wheelchair, trying to get up, falls, groaning, helped back into wheelchair, frustrated 
3x06: trying to stand, falls ~~ falls, helped back up, argued, teary-eyed, emotional, hugged
3x07: on crutches, training himself to walk again, emotional ~~ frustrated
3x08: falls, frustrated ~~ argued, yelling, teary-eyed
3x09: frustrated
3x10: very rough fight, bloody/bruised face, heavy breathing
4x01: bruised face 
4x02: none
4x03: shoved into cold water (comedic), embarrassed 
4x04-4x06: none
4x07: emotional, crying 
4x08: fought, thrown into a pool, argued, upset ~~ emotional, crying, upset
4x09: upset ~~ sparred, pulled muscle, in pain, collapsed, concern for him
4x10: medical exam, scar on his back ~~ emotional
5x01: fought, upset 
5x02: threatened ~~ nervous, upset, crying, hugged
5x03: crying
5x04: argued, emotional 
5x05: argued, upset ~~ fought, emotional, hugged
5x06-5x07: none 
5x08: worried 
5x09: worried 
5x10: fought 
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Character: Robby Keene (played by Tanner Buchanan)
1x01-1x03: none
1x04: upset ~~ argued 
1x05: upset ~~ angry
1x06: sparred ~~ rough fight, out of breath
1x07-1x08: none
1x09: upset, yelled at, scared 
1x10: dislocated shoulder, collapsed, angry ~~ shoulder set into place, in pain
2x01: sling on his arm ~~ argued
2x02: worried ~~ upset ~~ concern for him 
2x03: worried
2x04: upset ~~ threatened, hit in the head, knocked to the ground ~~ holding his head in pain, choked, at knife-point, shoved to the ground ~~ sore
2x05: fought 
2x06: fought
2x07: none 
2x08: upset, rough fight
2x09: bloodshot eye, upset ~~ concerned 
2x10: worried, upset ~~ rough fight, bloody face, concerned
3x01: no appearance
3x02: upset, teary-eyed, restrained, handcuffed, arrested 
3x03: in prison, stressed ~~ very rough fight, bruised face, kicked in the ribs, breathing heavily/wheezing, in pain ~~ bruised face, teary-eyed ~~ upset
3x04: bruised face ~~ bullied
3x05: frustrated ~~ rough fight ~~ bloody/bruised face
3x06-3x07: none 
3x08: angry
3x09: none
3x10: fought, argued, knocked out, concern for him ~~ bruised/bloody face
4x01: sparred
4x02: sparred
4x03: none
4x04: sparred, heavy breathing ~~ frustrated, argued 
4x05-4x06: none
4x07: sparred
4x08: fought
4x09: sparred
4x10: angry, sparred ~~ emotional, crying, choked-up voice, hugged
5x01: fought
5x02: fought 
5x03: none
5x04: frustrated, argued
5x05: argued ~~ fought, bloody nose, emotional, hugged
5x06-5x09: none
5x10: rough fight, gasping for air, half-collapsed ~~ emotional
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TORY NICHOLS and AISHA ROBINSON in COBRA KAI 2x04
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I am watching Cobra Kai 2x04 "The Moment of Truth"
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CK 2x04 Moment of Truth Screencaps 208
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karivem · 3 years
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Favorite On-Screen Kisses Part 2
This list includes kisses from TV shows and Movies. They are in no particular order, all have my heart and I love them so much. My list is infinite so expect part 3, 4 and beyond.
Part One💕
Nadia and Guzmán (Elite 2x04)
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Robin and Alice (Once Upon a Time 7x10)
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Ennis and Jack reunion kiss (Brokeback mountain)
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Jack and Kate (Lost 5x06)
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Johnny and Carmen (Cobra Kai 3x08)
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Anne and Gilbert (Anne with an E 3x10)
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Jonas and Martha (Dark 2x06)
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Allen and Lucien (Kill your darlings)
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Emma and Jacob (Miss Peregrine’s home for peculiar children)
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Eric and Adam (Sex education 2x04)
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Part 3💕
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breckstonevailskier · 3 years
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Rewriting Cobra Kai Season 2 to eliminate the love triangles
There's a lot to love about Cobra Kai. But I have to admit season 2 is a bit of a weak season. And one of the areas that I view as a weak point is with the teen romance and love triangles.
Love triangles are one of the cheapest sources of conflict, given that you're either pitting two girls against each other in a competition for a guy's love, or two guys against each other for a girl's love. We see both of those in season 2 with Robby/Sam/Miguel and Sam/Miguel/Tory.
Obviously, the pairings for the season of Sam/Robby and Miguel/Tory were rebounds because it's typical in a show like this to break up an endgame couple early, then have them get back together later. Thing is, the rivalries of Sam and Tory, and Miguel and Robby, already have a lot of meat for them that doesn't hinge on the relationships.
With Sam and Tory, it's kinda ridiculous that the whole rivalry is basically over Miguel's heart when it could've been about so much more. It could've been built more upon the wrong perceptions that they had of each other from their first encounter at the beach club in 2x04: Sam viewing Tory as a thief, and Tory viewing Sam as a privileged rival who's never had to deal with hardship.
With Robby and Miguel, the show focuses a lot on how Miguel views Robby as a rival in their affections for Sam, but not really about another source to their rivalry: Johnny. It would've been interesting if the rivalry was built around Robby's resentment towards Miguel for getting Johnny's attention and affection, and in turn for Miguel to feel conflicted about his anger towards Robby because he's aware about Robby being Johnny's son.
There's also the fact that I don't think Sam/Robby and Miguel/Tory really have chemistry compared to Sam/Miguel and Robby/Tory. Sam and Robby have more sibling vibes than romantic ones. In the case of Miguel and Tory, Tory pursued Miguel and he went along with it because she was offering herself as a rebound girl, and the whole thing felt like a temporary relationship to tide him over before he got back together with Sam (and he was a pretty bad boyfriend to her in turn).
So my solution to the mess is to, well...to fix the problem, you have to go back into season 1 and not have Sam break up with Miguel at the tournament. Keep Sam and Miguel in a relationship for the duration of season 2, while having Tory get together with Robby in season 2. Here's how that would go.
SEASON 1
Episode 9:
In this episode, Sam returned home, planning to come clean to her dad about Miguel (and prepared to take the risk of him not approving of the relationship because Miguel is in Cobra Kai), only for her mom to confront her about the hit and run and ground her. Because her phone was confiscated, she can't reach out to Miguel, who is becoming paranoid in light of Johnny's biased stories to him about Daniel and seeing Sam being friendly with Robby. He gets drunk, and tries to take a swing at Robby when he brings Sam over so she can explain the situation, accidentally hitting Sam. Subsequently, they break up after he refuses to apologize for resorting to violence on Robby, and she leaves the tournament early, unable to bear what Miguel's turned into under the Cobra Kai teachings, while Miguel fights dirty against Robby in the finals and wins.
The change:
Sam returns home, planning to come clean to her dad about Miguel. Her mom confronts her about the hit-and-run...but she isn't quick to ground Sam. First, Amanda asks Sam for her side of the story about the hit-and-run. This, I think, is a very necessary change because, in the canon episode, Amanda's a bit of a hypocrite here. She's rushing to judgment based solely on Johnny's word without hearing Sam's side of the events or considering the possibility that Johnny's being biased, something that she had chided Daniel for doing earlier (regarding Johnny bringing to his attention what Kyler and his gang had been doing to Miguel).
So Sam explains what happened: Yasmine was texting while driving and they collided with a car that was parked illegally in the street outside the All-Valley Sports Arena. They were prepared to get out and leave contact information when a drunk Johnny began banging on the backseat window, making them drive off out of fear for their safety.
While Sam has told her side of things, she's still grounded for not coming clean sooner. But before Amanda can confiscate Sam's phone, Sam brings up that she has plans to see Miguel that night and he'll be worried sick if he can't contact her. She comes clean to her mom about how, "You know about that viral video of the kid who beat up Kyler and his crew in the cafeteria a few months back? Well, I've been dating that kid for the last few months." And she explains everything: his name is Miguel Diaz, and he's a student at Cobra Kai, and she was planning on telling Daniel about all this.
Of course, Amanda is aware Daniel will probably not take the news that their daughter is dating a Cobra Kai well, given Daniel's personal beef with Cobra Kai (what with getting Armand Zakarian to jack up the rent on the strip mall, and Louie hiring his biker buddies to destroy Johnny's car as retaliation for the billboard penis), and how he's not above intruding on his daughter's social life (given what happened with Kyler). But Sam insists Miguel's a good person, and that if Amanda gets to know Miguel through and through, then she can help Sam stand up to Daniel when Daniel inevitably blows up. More importantly, her best friend Aisha's in Cobra Kai, and can also vouch for Miguel's character. Amanda agrees to Sam's idea, and lets her call Miguel to invite him over.
So Miguel abandons the Cobra Kais' party and comes over to the LaRussos' house. He's already feeling jealous and insecure, because he knows Sam is hiding their relationship from Daniel, and the previous day, he went to her house uninvited and saw her laughing and talking to Robby. This was right after he'd heard Johnny's biased story about Daniel "stealing" Ali from him. So when Amanda lets Miguel in, he's a bit on edge, but Amanda mistakes it as him just being nervous at him coming over to his girlfriend's fancy house. Nonetheless, she's quickly won over by Miguel's personality, and when she asks him about "Why did you take up karate?" determines that he's the real deal, especially when he mentions how he took up karate to defend himself from bullies (much like Daniel did).
But things change when Robby arrives at the house for a training session with Daniel. Robby and Miguel recognize each other, and immediately Miguel's insecurities come to his head. He tries to attack Robby, but Sam steps between them, calms Miguel down, and explains that whatever Miguel saw, it's not what it looks like. Robby's just a friend and a teen working for the LaRussos' dealership who is also being trained by Daniel in the art of Miyagi-Do. Miguel listens to her, accepts what she's saying, and relaxes, no longer seeing Robby as a threat to his affections for Sam. However, Sam also notices the disdainful look Robby showed the moment he saw Miguel, but can't figure out why as she nor her parents are aware that Robby is Johnny's son.
When Johnny and Daniel return home from their day out, they agree to a "Rocky III-style" match in Daniel's dojo, but find Robby there waiting, and also find Sam with Miguel and Amanda. Things get heated, the altercation where Daniel's trophy gets broken happens, and ultimately everyone blows up at each other:
Daniel is mad over the fact that his daughter is dating a Cobra Kai boy and about the whole fact that Robby is Johnny's son.
Johnny's mad at Daniel because Daniel is training his son. He is also offended by the fact that Daniel is mad about Miguel being in Cobra Kai, causing him to get defensive of Miguel.
In Johnny's rush to defend Miguel, he only succeeds in angering Robby, who's now mad at him for showing his favoritism for Miguel. Robby is also mad at Miguel for the fact that Sam is already taken.
Miguel is mad at Daniel for not approving of him, and mad at Johnny for escalating the situation.
Sam is mad at her dad for not reacting well to Miguel, and mad at Miguel and Robby for letting there be bad blood between them.
Amanda is mad at Johnny for terrorizing Sam, and also mad at Daniel for flipping out at Miguel.
So the whole thing ends with Johnny driving away angrily with Miguel, Daniel banishing Robby from the house and the dealership, Sam storming off to her bedroom in tears, and Daniel also being banished to the couch by Amanda.
Episode 10:
At the LaRusso house, everyone broods over the events of the previous night. Amanda puts Daniel in his place and calls him out on his behavior towards Robby and Miguel, with her saying "You really want Sam to shut you out again?" He apologizes to Sam and Amanda for losing it, and reluctantly agrees to sit down and get to know Miguel after the tournament.
Everything at the tournament is the same up until the conversation Sam has with Miguel right before the finals. She apologizes for her dad's behavior, and tells him that her dad wants to get to know him. Miguel accepts her apology, thanks her, and agrees that they'll talk after the tournament.
Subsequently, Sam stays for the finals rather than go home early. Miguel doesn't threaten to hurt Robby, and wanting to make the best impression for Daniel, he chooses to fight cleanly rather than exploit Robby's injury, an act that baffles Miguel's fellow Cobra Kai students. Even though the match ties at 2-2, Robby's injury puts him at too much of a disadvantage, and Miguel earns the winning point not by attacking Robby's shoulder, but by using the Crane Kick (to which he subsequently gives Daniel a bow of respect).
Subsequently, Sam is among those who run over to him, gives him an approving hug, and then goes over to check on Robby and Johnny. Meanwhile, Sam goes with Miguel to the victory celebration at Applebee's. And afterwards, he goes with her to her house for a sparring session of their own.
On the drive home, Robby is sullen about his second place finish, but Daniel assures him that he is as much of a winner as Miguel. Robby expresses concern that Cobra Kai is going to become the premier dojo in the Valley, but Daniel--bitter over Johnny's behavior towards his daughter, and Hawk's behavior in the semi-finals--replies, "Over my dead body", taking Robby to Mr. Miyagi's old house which he plans to convert into a full on dojo for Miyagi-Do.
The next day, Miguel comes over to the LaRussos' for dinner. He is hesitant, since besides what he's seen of Daniel, the only other things he knows about Daniel are from the biased narrative that Johnny gave him about what happened in 1984, and the way Daniel flipped out at seeing him. Daniel apologizes for his behavior the other day, but explains that the name Cobra Kai just brings up lots of bad memories with him. So we get the car scene from season 3 episode 9 where Daniel fills in the gaps about what Johnny didn't tell Miguel, and to further clarify why he doesn't trust Cobra Kai and Johnny, also brings up what happened when he was manipulated by Terry Silver and Mike Barnes. At the end of it, Daniel decides that he's okay with Miguel dating Sam, but this hasn't done anything to cool the blood between him and Johnny because of Hawk injuring Robby and Johnny's own actions with the hit-and-run.
SEASON 2:
Episodes 1 and 2:
So for season 2, Miguel's arc is about him being torn between Cobra Kai and his loyalty to Johnny, and his relationship with Sam and the new respect Daniel has for him. Sam and Miguel are still dating. Robby still doesn't like that Sam is with Miguel, and still dislikes Miguel because of Johnny's favoritism for him, but decides to stay friends with Sam after she convinces Daniel to take Robby in. Robby also tries to be civil to Miguel for Daniel's and Sam's sake. But with Miguel spending so much time with Sam and being practically a fixture at the LaRusso house, it's hard for Robby not to grow envious of him given all that other baggage.
Episode 3:
The season is mostly the same, up until episode 3 at Valley Fest. In canon, Daniel is having a hard time finding new students, who are put off by his chore-based training methods. To help get exposure, Daniel decides to hold a solemn karate demonstration with Sam and Robby at the upcoming Valley Fest fair. In canon, when Johnny hears about this, Cobra Kai interrupt them with a much more flashy demonstration of their own set to "Back in the Game" by Airbourne, winning over the crowd and stealing the spotlight from Miyagi-Do as Daniel and his students look on with contempt.
In this timeline, however, Valley Fest puts Miguel's loyalties to question. If nothing changes, and Cobra Kai hijacks the demo as happens in canon, Sam is mad at Miguel for raining on Miyagi-Do's parade and not telling her about it in advance. So Miguel, not wanting to jeopardize his relationship with Sam, or at the minimum interested in softening the blow, either gives Sam an advance tip-off and preemptive apology, or better yet, convinces Johnny to wait until Miyagi-Do has finished before they do their show (risking being called a pussy by Johnny). Sam still has some bitter feelings towards Cobra Kai for putting on a demo that overshadowed Miyagi-Do's, though accepts Miguel's apology about the matter, as happens in canon when she argues with Aisha about this at the beach club and they decide it's not worth fighting over.
Episode 4:
Episode 4 is where Sam's rivalry with Tory begins in canon. Daniel takes Robby and Sam to a beach club, where his attempts to promote Miyagi-Do to local parents are overshadowed by Cobra Kai's display at Valley Fest, with Aisha's mother praising the difference that Cobra Kai has made in her daughter's life. Meanwhile, Sam tries to make up with Aisha, who is upset about the slight against Cobra Kai in Daniel’s ad, but ends up in a quarrel with Tory, whom she accuses of stealing her mother's wallet (having witnessed Tory stealing liquor at the club beforehand). Tory responds by pushing Sam into a dessert table and walking away with Aisha.
Not much about this would change, especially where the rivalry between Sam and Tory is concerned, because it's important for me to note that in canon this inciting incident for the rivalry was before Tory hooked up with Miguel. That wasn't until the next episode.
Meanwhile, through circumstances, Tory also runs into Robby, befriends him, and enters into a relationship with him. In season 3, we see them form a connection after Robby joins Cobra Kai over how they're the ones who bore the blunt of the punishment for the school brawl, and their troubled home lives. So we see that here, with Tory also using elements of the playbook she used in the actual timeline to seduce Miguel, which in this case means convincing Robby that he needs to pretend that he's over Sam. Kreese finds out about the relationship between Robby and Tory, and since he's wanted to snag Robby this whole time, he decides to use Tory as a pawn to influence Robby, in hopes of both eventually getting Robby to join Cobra Kai while also getting revenge on Daniel for humiliating him and Terry Silver back in 1985.
Episode 5:
In episode 5, the mall fight still happens, but with Miguel taking Robby's place. It would work nicely since Miguel is Demetri's friend too. (Robby's on a date with Tory, which is why he's not here)
In this version of events, Sam and Miguel go to the mall with Demetri. Demetri is confronted and attacked by Hawk and several other Cobra Kai students as a reprisal for his Yelp review. Demetri flees into the food court, where Sam and Miguel come to his aid. Despite being outnumbered, they utilize the "wheel technique" to soundly defeat their opponents (Miguel knows it because Daniel, at Sam's request, agreed to give Miguel a private one-on-one lesson with him and Sam in the LaRussos' home dojo). Proud of his students, Daniel resolves to continue training Demetri at a slower pace, and also convinces Miguel to consider joining Miyagi-Do, saying that Miguel could use some new fighting moves for when he defends his title at the next All-Valley Tournament. Sam and Miguel have an intimate moment afterwards (either a passionate makeout session, or they make love in Sam's bedroom).
Hawk is infuriated by Moon breaking up with him AND the fact that Miguel is consorting with the enemy by aiding Sam (in fact, he's noticed Miguel growing distant from him and the rest of Cobra Kai ever since the tournament, having spent more time with Sam than with his friends from the dojo). So when Kreese notices Hawk blowing off steam, he encourages him to continue the fight. That night, Hawk and his Cobra Kai followers trash the Miyagi-Do dojo and steal Mr. Miyagi's Medal of Honor.
Enraged, Daniel confronts Johnny in front of the students at the Cobra Kai dojo. Although Johnny honestly denies any knowledge of the incident, the two nearly come to blows until Miguel steps in and forces them to stand down, getting Daniel to remember his promise not to alienate Miguel from him. While Daniel predictably fails to get any restitution out of Johnny, he nonetheless succeeds in convincing a number of Cobra Kai students to walk out and join Miyagi-Do instead...including Miguel. There's a small smirk on Kreese's face as Miguel leaves, since Miguel's no longer around to oppose him, and he hopes the friction between Robby and Miguel will get Robby to leave Miyagi-Do and come over to Cobra Kai.
Episode 6:
So for the next two episodes, Miguel is now at Miyagi-Do. Although Robby does not trust Miguel (thanks to Kreese using Tory to indirectly manipulate him), Daniel reveals that he himself used to be Cobra Kai before seeing the error of his ways, and tells the class that it doesn't matter who they were before — as of now, they are all Miyagi-Do. They work together to raise a heavy stone slab that Hawk's gang knocked over.
At the Cobra Kai dojo, Johnny punishes the students with strenuous exercises, seeking to root out who was responsible for trashing the Miyagi-Do dojo while also trying to reach out to Miguel, trying to get him to come back (with no success). He then receives a call which brings him to the hospital to visit his old friend Tommy, who is suffering from a terminal illness. Along with Bobby and Jimmy, the former Cobras resolve to treat Tommy to one last day of fun. His departure allows Kreese to corrupt the other Cobra Kais, moreso than in canon where Miguel was around to raise objections. The OG Cobra Kais, besides taking issue with Johnny for letting Kreese back in the picture, don't exactly help Johnny when they suggest that maybe it's for the best that Miguel is on the side of the LaRussos for now, as they've come to develop a lot of respect for Daniel and Mr. Miyagi since the tournament in 1984.
Episode 7:
I'd divide up the training sessions of Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do to happen on separate days. Miguel participates with Sam in the meat locker training scene, taking Robby's place in the canon scene, while pairing Robby up with Demetri or Chris. Meanwhile, Hawk acts as Tory's partner in Coyote Creek instead of Miguel.
Meanwhile, Miguel suspects that Hawk was behind the trashing of Miyagi-Do and it was as payback for the mall fight. Finding out somehow that Cobra Kai are training the following day at Coyote Creek (because someone, maybe Stingray, was foolish enough to post it on social media), he decides to bring Sam and some of the other Miyagi-Dos to ambush the Cobra Kais. Miguel does the ambush on and beatdown of Hawk and takes back the medal of honor, while Sam attacks Tory and gives her a beating, even though Tory wasn't a participant in the vandalism of Miyagi-Do. Daniel's not happy with Sam or Miguel, but Sam counters that they have to show they won't stand for being picked on.
When Tory tells Robby about what happened, Robby is understandably torn on his loyalties. On the one hand, he's got to be loyal to Miyagi-Do, but Tory is his girlfriend, and his resentments towards Miguel begin to resurface. Tory is furious, recalls the same thing Kreese said to get Hawk to trash Miyagi-Do in the first place, and swears revenge on Sam. And for that matter, the Cobra Kais also want revenge on Miyagi-Do.
Episode 8:
Johnny gets Miguel to come back to Cobra Kai, now that Kreese has been expelled and isn't around to teach them in his old ways. Daniel is sad to see Miguel go, but tells Miguel that he's always welcome at their place for private sessions with Daniel and Sam. While Hawk is glad to see Miguel back, Miguel keeps him at arm's length in light of the vandalism and what happened at the mall, and Tory puts on a poker face to hide her hatred of him (which is another reason why she's targeting Sam: to hurt him by proxy).
80's night at the roller rink in canon is the first time Sam and Tory have crossed paths since episode 4.
In canon it goes like this: Tory invites Miguel to the roller rink, and Tory trips Sam for talking to Miguel, getting Sam and Robby ejected from the rink.
In the alternate timeline, it goes like this: Tory invites Robby to the roller rink, and she kisses Robby in front of Sam, something Sam doesn't react well to because she sees Tory as dragging Robby down and potentially undoing the hard work Robby has put into turning his life around ever since he entered the LaRussos' lives. Miguel tries to smooth things over with Tory for Coyote Creek, with little success because he doesn't realize just how deep Tory's hatred for him and Sam is. He starts to realize this when Tory trips Sam moments later, leading Sam to retaliate with a leg sweep, and Miguel also retaliates by getting in Tory's face. As a result, both Sam and Miguel are kicked out of the rink.
Episode 9:
Moon's party goes down a bit differently when it comes to Sam, Miguel, Robby, and Tory's actions.
In the show, while Miguel is by the pool kissing Sam, Robby's inside getting food for a very drunk Sam. However, he gets distracted as the summer-long tension between Hawk and Demetri escalates, and he has to step in and defend Demetri.
Here, due to circumstances, the roles are reversed and Miguel is the one inside defending Demetri from Hawk, while it's Robby who's outside by the pool with Sam, just making sure she's all right (after all, he's the son of two alcoholics). There's no drunk kiss, and instead, Robby and Sam are being friendly, talking, and Sam is raising her concerns about Tory being a bad influence on him. They're seen by Tory, and like when Miguel approached Sam at the roller rink in the actual timeline (or in canon when Miguel saw Sam being friendly with Robby at the LaRussos'), she misinterprets the whole thing in a way that fuels her hatred for Sam that has been festering ever since Sam beat her up at Coyote Creek.
When the police break up the party, Robby hastily decides to take Sam back to Johnny's apartment like in the show. Tory happens to see him getting Sam into his car, and decides that Robby isn't entirely over his feelings for Sam. Giving her another excuse for the school brawl.
Miguel isn't anywhere near them, so he reaches out to Johnny. Johnny calls back when he gets to his apartment and finds Robby and Sam there, or Miguel finds them together there. In either case, there's a short fight between Robby and Miguel (due to Miguel, who has been fully aware this whole time that Robby had a crush on Sam, fearing Robby was taking advantage of her) that Johnny quickly breaks up, with Johnny placating Miguel enough to get him to back down. Miguel takes a few deep breaths, focuses, goes over to his apartment to get his mother, and she quickly whips up a hangover cure for Sam. Carmen also sees fit to call Sam's parents to let them know that she's all right, and they can come pick her up in the morning.
Episode 10:
The Sunday morning after Moon's party, Daniel comes by to pick Sam up. Meanwhile, Robby begins to reconcile with his father. He is thankful for Johnny's help, and when Daniel shows up to take Sam home, Robby is willing to accept the blame to prevent further tension between the two men.
When Daniel arrives, there is no "rematch" between him and Johnny, and nothing of him disowning Robby (it's actually a bit redundant seeing as Robby's going to provide Daniel with a reason to hate him later). Johnny just hands Sam over to Daniel, Daniel takes her home. He's not happy that she seemingly turned to Johnny instead of him in her hour of need, but accepts that that's an issue for another day.
Over that Sunday, Robby and Johnny reconcile at Johnny's apartment, while Miguel goes over to the LaRussos' house and talks things over with Daniel, Amanda and Sam. He apologizes for not being more attentive to Sam, as he was busy trying to defend Demetri.
That Monday, Johnny takes Robby to school. Even as Johnny's attempts to be fatherly to him on his first day of school are awkward, Robby appreciates that he is trying, and encourages his father to make peace with Daniel, believing that the two of them could learn some things from each other.
Shortly into the morning announcements, Tory assaults the teacher and seizes control of the intercom to announce an ass-beating of Sam. Like in the show, the two girls circle each other in the hallway, with Robby and Miguel frantically racing to reach them. Miguel gets there first and manages to briefly separate them, only for Robby to arrive and — believing that Miguel is attacking Tory — start his own fight with him. With Miguel also giving his all, still pissed at Robby for (seemingly) trying to take advantage of Sam.
The brawl thus plays out the same. And the outcome of the Sam vs. Tory and Miguel vs. Robby fights are the same. In the girls' fight, Tory shifts her spiked bracelet to her knuckles, slashing Sam's arm before threatening to slice her face with it. Sam regains the upper hand and knocks her down a staircase. Meanwhile, Miguel pins Robby to the floor, but, remembering what Johnny said about the difference between having no mercy and no honor, shows mercy and apologizes. However, Robby’s anger at Miguel over having everything Robby doesn't have--the tournament trophy, the romance with Sam, Johnny's preferential treatment, Daniel's approval-- boils over and he seizes the opening to attack Miguel, inadvertently kicking him over the stairway balcony and paralyzing him.
In the aftermath, Daniel is furious that both his daughter and her boyfriend, who he's come to like ever since the tournament, are both in the hospital with injuries. He also blames Tory for corrupting Robby once he learns from Sam that Robby had been dating Tory.
Season 3:
Season 3 has some differences in the details, but otherwise stays mostly the same.
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At the end of the day, the rivalries amongst Sam, Miguel, Robby and Tory are made a bit stronger by cutting out the love triangles. With Sam vs. Tory, that rivalry is balanced out a bit by having Sam be a contributor to the increasing tensions between them, not just Tory doing everything. While Robby vs. Miguel is a bit stronger rivalry due to the fact that Robby has to interact with Miguel a lot more, all while having to bottle up his resentments of Miguel so he doesn't lose the LaRussos' hospitality.
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Cobra Kai 2x04 "The Moment of Truth" ; Johnny Lawrence
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xsophie2x · 2 years
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Cobra Kai’s best episodes (my opinion)
3x05 Miyagi-Do
This entire episode was wild and really so good! Meeting Chozen again was my favorite part, but the rest! The kids’ arcade fight, Robby’s prison fight with Shawn, Johnny and Miguel at the Dee Snider concert... There is literally nothing bad about this episode.
2x03 Fire and Ice
Nice summer vibes are always fun in an episode. And who can resist a good karate demonstration, complete with fire, breaking boards while blindfolded and slamming through bricks with your fist?
3x08 The good, the bad and the badass
The high school vibes were strong in the beginning of this episode (and I always like that) and to see Miguel back on his feet again and being friends with Sam again is great! Plus, judging by how important that next tournament turned out to be, it’s good that they save it. And seeing Daniel, Johnny and Kreese getting scolded like three little kids by the principal is just a funny bonus.
2x04 The moment of truth
More summer vibes. That’s what I enjoy. So many great things episodes, mainly Sam and Tory meeting for the first time, that’s what comes to mind. Not to mention Aisha and Tory being friends, Tory kicking Miguel’s ass and everyone adoring the Cobra Kai dojo because their kids have gotten so much more confident thanks to it.
4x09 + 4x10 The fall and The rise
Yeah, yeah, two episodes. But they kinda belong together anyway. I absolutely loved the All Valley Tournament. It was epic, it was tense, it was so well done, and I genuinely didn’t know who was gonna win. So many shocks and twists, there’s nothing bad about it. 
2x07 Lull
The coyote creek training was just awesome. Honestly, Miguel versus Hawk in this episode might be my favorite fight in the whole series? I just love it.
2x10 No mercy
Yeah, everyone knows how this episode ends. But the school fight? The school fight was crazy. I enjoy that fight so much it was just insane, the drama that it brought on.
1x03 Esqueleto
There’s definitely more high school vibes in here. And Johnny’s swimming pool training with Miguel was crazy. But I love a good high school Halloween dance / party. And listen: how cute were Miguel and Eli and Demetri here. I love their friendship.
4x02 First learn stand
Listen, Johnny and Daniel training each other is one of my absolute favorite things this season. I got so hyped watching Daniel do Eagle Fang training. And that ice hockey player fight...? Wow. Plus finding out Shawn is Kenny’s older brother? Pure gold.
3x10 December 19
This had to be here. Welcoming more original Karate Kid characters is always welcome (Ali) and her and Amanda were amazing! Plus, of course, the house fight. Demetri’s asshole speech? Sam overcoming her fears for Tory? Hawk’s redemption and reuniting with Demetri? Like I said, pure gold.
Bonus: 1x01 Ace degenerate
This pilot was wild. You can’t just leave out a show’s very first episode. So many things happening in this episode. Sam and her friends crashing into Johnny’s car. The TV and the wrong wall incident. Daniel and Johnny meeting again. Of course Johnny telling Miguel he’s gonna train him. Crazy but good.
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January 1st 2021
Podcasts: Wonderful -- 163 Party Time! Threedom -- Circles on a Stick TV: Cobra Kai -- 2x03, 2x04 NXT -- 13x599  12/30/20 Taskmaster: New Years Treat
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capitanogiorgio · 4 years
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The Fisherman scene in Cobra Kai 2x04
There’s something about the fisherman scene in 2x04. Beyond the Miyagi echo thing, Miyagi’s “sign” to send Daniel or whatever.
It almost looks like a dream or a vision or even a hallucination. You see at the beginning of the scene, while Daniel is walking towards the camera, we can see background strollers going in the opposite direction, as if leaving the beach. With the shot of the fisherman, you can also see people in the background going opposite from where the fisherman is. The beach gets filtered out as if there’s only Daniel and the Fisherman left, no one else. Just the sea, the Fisherman and Daniel.
Everything in this scene screams that it’s not just a simple random encounter. The fact it’s before the sea/ocean is a first indicator. It has many symbols but in some cultures and mythologies, the ocean is linked with the afterlife, with the link between the living and the dead, the deads being all together within the ocean. And it just so happens that Daniel finds a fisherman, with an accent and who doesn’t speak English very well, exactly like Mr Miyagi. Coincidence, right? I think not.
(Not to mention the beach is also a gentle nod to the different training scenes of the Karate Kid trilogy, especially the first and third films where Daniel 1) first see Miyagi use the Crane Technique 2) Perfects the “Miyagi” kata in the third movie).
Second of all, the Fisherman. He doesn’t have a name, could fool Daniel it was Miyagi for a second, as foolish a thought as it was (but I guess when you’re as lost as Daniel is throughout the show you may tend to see the one you’re desperately looking for anywhere, even if this doesn’t make any sense). He’s mysterious, seeming full of wisdom. To link it back to the ocean being the link with the world of the dead : the Fisher King from the Arthurian legend has many sources of inspiration and one of them is from celtic mythology, concerning the god Nodens who was believed to fish the souls of the dead. All of these symbols are too big to ignore when you watch this scene. Other symbols include patience, that the fisherman will wait calmly until he catches a fish. And that’s exactly what the Fisherman says to Daniel: “You just have to be patient.”
And third, this has not passed anyone’s attention that the Fisherman sports a similar beard/moustache combo as Mr Miyagi (and I would argue a similar haircut but it’s difficult to judge properly because of the hat. In any case, the length is more or less the same).
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(And, as I said, both characters talk in a very similar way with 1) a foreign accent 2) with a type of english that doesn’t use articles or the verb “to be” too often)
And then, there’s the final shot of the scene, when Daniel leaves and we see the Fisherman with his back turned to us. It’s not a wide angle shot of course but the way that shot was framed, clearly adds to the feeling that they were alone on the beach, that it was an eerie encounter, maybe an apparition or a hallucination of Daniel’s desperate and lost mind.
Tl;Dr: What I’m trying to say is that this scene, as emotional as it was, seems to me more than just an hommage to Mr Miyagi (and Pat Morita by extension) and maybe more of the fabrication of Daniel’s desperate search for Mr Miyagi’s guidance especially since the return of Cobra Kai. I doubt the show would take on a fantastic-like approach with the theory of the Fisherman is an apparition of Mr Miyagi’s soul, so I’m going with the theory of Daniel’s lost self.
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CK Rewatch 2020: 2x04, part 3
Oh, Sam. Oh no. Not a good look for you.....
Trey & Cruz!! See, Cobra Kai brought these guys back in a way that totally makes sense. Other shows would have just basically forgotten they existed after season 1. Not Cobra Kai.
So, I’m of the opinion that this is all a ploy by Kreese. I think he is legit renting this room, but only as a side hustle in case Johnny ever followed him. 
GO DANIEL!!! Grandpa? FUCK YOU. RAPLH’S STILL GOT IT!!
Johnny.... He’s just.... He’s so good at heart? And wants to believe the best in people and Kreese knows that. 
But Martin is so good that I almost believe him? I want to believe him. But I know more of the story than Johnny does and oh boy.....
Oh, hai Daniel.......
Dimitri! I’m so happy he came to Miyagi-Do. He is such a great fit for Daniel and his teaching.
Oh, Johnny. You should listen to Miguel.
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