#lostposting

[stripesysheaven]

#good for them good for them #benjamin linus #ben linus #john locke #bocke #lost #lost abc #abc lost #lost tv #ben x locke #my posts #lostposting #benposting #my edits

[16-jarrah]

mentioning LOST's church ending got me riled up about the racism in LOST again lol. i obviously am aware that some actors just did not return to production for possibly other reasons, but also especially in the case of harrold perrineau (michael dawson) he felt like his character (and walt, his son) was treated like shit by the writing. and he was absolutely right. i've already made posts about this (will try to dig them up later), but michael was treated absolutely bullshit and unfairly wrt the story. michael betrayed them and killed two people, yes, but what did he do it for but to protect his son? he felt like nobody gave enough fucks about walt and there was some truth to that claim. his whole character arc is about being a dad to walt and their improving relationship over the course of being stuck on the island, so of course he would do that. it just makes sense.

which is why i don't think it's all that fair to punish him for it immensely in the narrative. harrold perrineau said it himself that he didn't want michael and walt to be another case of the absent black father stereotype [citation needed, i'll look for it but he said it in an interview] yet that's what he ended up being anyway. after his and walt's escape from the island, apparently walt cast him away because he doesn't agree with what his father did—which i actually think its interesting to explore: walt disagreeing with michael's actions and trying to grapple with it, but i don't think separating him from his dad was the best writing choice to make. walt is being punished for caring about his son by making his son be the one to cast him away. you can argue it's supposed to be tragic, michael is supposed to be a tragic character, but with the context surrounding michael's character? there's better ways to make his character be tragic than this.

which brings me to his next punishment. i was happy to see michael again on the kahana (just happy to see him in general), but it didn't last long when he gets killed, sacrificing himself to prevent/prolong the kahana's explosion from happening. (put a 📌 on this bc it's similar to how sayid dies and we'll come back to that later.) michael dies here and walt doesn't know about this. and then michael joins as part of the whispers, his soul trapped on the island (presumably forever) and that's why he's not in the church ending.

i'm gonna be frank. michael being trapped on the island because of his guilt or remorse or perhaps repenting for his sins is just bullshit to me. a lot of characters seen in the flash sideways and in the church ending are characters who've done "bad things". it's bullshit to have michael be the only one doomed to pay for his misdeeds forever. his misdeeds for... killing two people. not that killing two people is Nothing, but moreso if you examine the circumstances it's hardly anything to be damned eternally for.

remember the 📌 we had wrt sayid and michael? both of them died trying to prevent an explosion from reaching everybody else. which makes this more egregious imo. i can say 1000 things about sayid's arc (points to url), but this is about michael and not him, so i'll just focus on this: sayid was grappling with "being a bad person" for torturing and killing so many people. he worked as an assassin for ben. and yet, somehow, you're telling me sayid is not being damned eternally for his misdeeds but michael is? if you don't see the BS in that i don't know what to tell you.

i'm also aware why some characters don't appear any more re:conflicts with their actors (or just availabilities or other reasons for declining to come back), but even then arguably any conflicts with harrold perrineau stemmed from a justified place because of how michael was treated.

i think mr eko had a more dignified arc (he's one of my fav characters, thematically speaking) and honestly he had some of the rawest shit i've ever heard:

I ask for no forgiveness father for I have not sinned, I have only done what I needed to do to survive. A small boy once asked me if I was a bad man, if I could answer him now I would tell him, that when I was a young boy I killed a man to save my brothers life. I am not sorry for this, I am proud of this. I did not ask for the life that I was given but it was given none the less, and with it I did my best.

but despite this it doesn't change the fact that his absence in the church ending is very noticeable. he had meaningful connections with charlie, with locke, and interestingly like michael he kind of parallels sayid but this time thematically through their arcs. sayid is constantly burdened with feeling like he's a bad person and resigning to it as some sort of self-fulfilled prophecy, but mr eko is very firm about how he sees himself as not necessarily a bad man, just a man whose hands were forced because of the cards he was dealt. i wish we could have seen a more direct parallel between them, because it would've been interesting. back to the main point: i think it's such a missed opportunity for mr eko to not be here. especially since even after his death, hurley was able to communicate with his ghost, showing that he still had connections with his fellow losties even long after his death.

ana lucia being "not ready to move on" is interesting. but ultimately you can't help but raise a few eyebrows at it anyway. you can argue that, unlike mr eko she died an unresolved death, but most of the LOST characters died with an unresolved death. (she was killed early.) that's the whole point of the sideways segments. so what makes ana lucia so different from the others? yeah she killed shannon, but that was completely a freak accident. her people (the tailies) were being picked off one by one by the other so she was understandably on edge. she was kind of a hated character but i think a lot of it is just racism and misogyny combined tbh. (LOST is...notorious for a lot of misogynistic character writing decisions.) ana lucia was just as complex and morally "ambiguous" as the rest of them. i find the decision to make her corrupt in the sideways segments interesting (negative). cz like, there was never any indication she was like this in real life. what does that corruption symbolize? because obviously that corruption is a key to why she "can't move on yet". what exactly is she supposed to be repenting for? they hinted at a possible direction her arc is going towards before killing her off, ie. her ultimately choosing not to kill "henry gale" because she no longer wants blood on her hands. again, in a way, she's just like sayid! someone who decided they'd turn away from ceaseless violence. only right afterwards she got killed. so what does she need repenting for so much that she's left out of the church ending? much to think about.

i don't really know how to conclude this post. but my main point is that the lack of these characters during the church ending is and has racist implications. (again, i understand the casting issues, but it's still a writing decision you can critique as a viewer at the end of the day). i'll try to find the old posts i made last year abt michael and mr eko and their parallels to sayid and link them here (and self reblog).

edit: go read/look up "burn it down". it details a lot of the behind the scenes mistreatment of the staff (including racism and sexism), including actors and writers. the quote from an interview from harold perrineau that i mentioned was also linked in a reblog. (post link)

#op #lost #lost abc #abc lost #lost 2004 #<- have we agreed on a main tag yet #michael dawson #mr. eko #ana lucia cortez #meta #analysis #media analysis #church ending #// #lostposting #<- my tag for LOST rambles on this blog

[katnissgirlsmakedo]

BOONE’S RADIO TRASMISSION!!!!

#damn ana lucia. and YOU cut him off…. and he DIED. #lostposting

[lostfanboy]

Never underestimate the power of singing along to a The Amazing Devil song. My mood was shit driving home and then Wild Blue Yonder came on and I started singing my lungs out and it was an instant mood shift.

#need to just go on like a 3 hour drive and throw on TADS entire discography. I think that would fix me. #lostposting #^ also it helped that I was Thinking About The Characters:tm:

[vampirefvggot]

damn is locke bout to fuck/murder this hitchhiker

#wouldnt put it past him #lostposting

[permanently-breedable]

SAWYERS LIL MISMATCHED GLASSES SHUT UUUPPPPOP 🥺🥺🥺

#lost #lostposting

[teamisc]

This is Miles and Sawyer to me

#lostposting

[patheticgirl69420]

why is lost so raw …

#lostposting

[stripesysheaven]

#the cycle goes on and on and on #ben linus #benjamin linus #john locke #bocke #lost #lost abc #abc lost #lost tv #lost tv show #my posts #my edits #lostposting #benposting

[16-jarrah]

You can love a character & still admit when they’re wrong. I love Ben but can acknowledge his flaws (he has none) & can hold him accountable for his wrongdoings (he’s never done anything wrong in his life) & call him out for his actions (which are always correct)

#this is a copypasta meme for those who aren't aware #lost abc #ben linus #benjamin linus #op #lostposting

[katnissgirlsmakedo]

ummmm i wanna rank lost characters too…

sayid (sorry women it had to be him)

kate!!!!

charlie

sun

jack

locke

claire

walt

shannon (i am. holding out hope that she will bounce back into favor)

michael (known commonly as “walt’s dad”)

boone

hurley (sorry anton. you didn’t stick out to me… also there’s the weird casual racism)

sun’s husband

sawyer booooooooooo

#shannon could come back. ok. i believe in women. she could come back #lostposting #i can’t wait for rebecca mader to show up we need more cunty bitches in here #lost rankings

[lefthandofscaevola]

He’s a boy scout. He’s haunted by visions. His mother convinced him he was immaculately conceived. He died multiple times. His foster sister was reincarnated as a dog. He once joined a marijuana growing commune and then got it shut down by inviting in an undercover cop. He’s a cult leader. He is the most manipulable person imaginable. He was stalked through his childhood by an immortal being and nothing even came of it. He’s a knife fiend. He’s friends with the guy who shot him and strangled him to death in an alternate universe. He’s bald. He’s possessed. His father stole his kidney and pushed him out the window of an eight story building. He stole $200,000 for said father. He would have died another time if he’d still had two kidneys at the time he was shot. I didn’t say his name but he popped into your head didn’t he

#0 note lostposting isn't a choice it's a calling #lost #lost abc #talk

[incandescent-mushroom]

i just think Locke should have kept Ben on that slutty little leash for the rest of the show, it would have calmed them both down. Locke (dragging Ben around like a feral dog), “oh this is just my boyfriend, he bites :)”

#i’m so sorry for lostposting AGAIN #i finished the show yesterday so here’s hoping it will fade from my brain and i’ll finally be free #benjamin linus #john locke #lost abc #mine

[vampirefvggot]

just finished s1 and i am. a broken man

#lostposting #i kindaaaa tho after tht end sequence of them boarding the plane am guessing what th end is #like all i heard for years is the ending SUX #so like #its gotta be purgatory or like #a collective dream #or just locke's dream mayhaps #idfk

[permanently-breedable]

brooo I did not like John lock at first but I’m on episode 11 rn… after walkabout I was like yeah ok he’s fine not as mystical but omg…. “Jack go be the doctor, let me be the hunter” him saying that and not being told no is such a testament to his character. how confident he is when he can walk again omg…… ok I’m a John locke stan (even if his name is a bit of a yaoi jumpscare)

#lost #lostposting

[teamisc]

Had a dream that the girl I have a crush on was on that fucking island omfggggg lost is ruining my life

#lostposting