#tdp time skip

[mariquitascadoodles]

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I’ve been meaning to doodle Rayla in her timeskip outfit but never found the time to do so , until now >:D

I love her with long her so I drew it down rather than on a bun, wonder how long it grew in 2 years :O

Also scenario, if Rayla has to leave again but this time asks Callum to go with her :Oc !

#thedragonprince #tdpart #tdp #the dragon prince #thedragonprincefanart #thedragonprinceart #tdp fanart #the dragon prince Rayla #Rayla #tdp rayla #tdp rayllum #rayllum #tdp rayla x callum #the dragon prince season 6 #tdp time skip #mari;tdpart #mariquita;art #Mariquita; tdp art #the dragon prince rayllum

[mytdpblog]

#so #2 year time skip huh? #afssfsjshsjdjdjf #i am trying to remain calm #the dragon prince #tdp #thw dragon prince season 4 #tdp s4 #tdp s4 spoilers #the dragon prince spoilers #tdp spoilers #sdcc #sdcc 2022 #callum #mine

[m4rs-ex3]

ok let's get this straight. 1 callum is indeed wearing heels and B--considering both the fact that elves live longer and that them being taller than humans jus like? makes sense??? like i have no evidence to support this but it makes sense--rayla could totally get taller. yeah? yea

#rayllum #tdp #the dragon prince #also also also rayla and claudia are around the same age and post time skip #rayla actually looks like she's grown quite a bit #and claudia looks the exact same #I KNOW I KNOW that's not how human/human adjacents work #but still smth to think about

[dekuhotnugget]

Last year, I created my first OC in the The Dragon Prince universe called Noah and with that, I decided to draw a kind of time-skip of Soren after Noah was born.

(this is just a WIP, btw)

For more context:

Soren at the time Noah came along, he was among 25-30 years old (I haven't decide an precisely age to him or even, Rayla yet) and well, 'cause of that, I believe his beard got a little bigger over time so, I decided to do a little bit more beard on him. I decided to add a strand of white hair to his hair and beard, to match Rayla's hair.

About the clothes, I even thought about drawing the armor he currently has on the series but, then I thought, if Soren and Rayla live together in Silvergrove in that time, why not to do an outfit from the MoonShadow Elves to Soren too? 🤔 🤭 So, it came out this.

#The Dragon Prince #Tdp #Tdp fanart #Sorayla #My time-skip Soren #My Art

[rainwalker-dragonblade29]

@dragonprinceofficial Day 6, Moon.

Here's my take on a lil bit of a redesign... excited to see her in season 4 (whenever that happens)

PLS JUST GIVE US NEWS OF RAYLA, WE ARE MISSING THIS MOON GIRL!

#I know I'm skipping prompts in between #but time to draw has been scarce #so just 10 ish this October #tdptober #tdp rayla #rayla the dragon prince #rayla fanart #rayla #rayla x callum #rayllum #rayla redesign #where is rayla? like seriously???? #i miss her so much #moonshadow elves #moonshadow elf

[sp3akfromtheart]

everytime i think i be chilling but then i remember how the dragon prince was my favourite show in the world and THEY ABSOLUTELY RUINED IT

#art talkz #WHY DID THEY DO TAHT? #WHYYYYYY???? #i was so sad when I read through the moon #ahy did they make rayla leave #why build up a whole relationship of two characters #just to rip it away from me #then do a STUPID TIME SKIP #I DONY CARE ABKUT AAVROAS I HATE BIS STUOID PURPLE ASS #IM ACTUALLY STILL NKG OVER THIS #cartoon runners stop destroying all my favourite shows challenge #it was like voltron all over again #and tdp was supposed to be my escape from voltron #WHATEVER. RANT OVER. FILLED WITH FURY

[thefandomstorage]

So Soren stans, how we feeling?

#the dragon prince #tdp #soren tdp #We get two glimpses at Soren's time skip design and honestly #I'm liking the current 5 o clock shadow style and am OBSESSED with his hair #IT'S GROWING #LONG HAIR SOREN IS LOOKING POSSIBLE Y'ALL!

[1lovepeace]

TDP Season 4 Coming In November. TDP Is Back Baby

😊😊🥳😭😭

#the dragon prince #rayla #runaan #ethari #callum #lain #tiadrin #soren #claudia #viren #tdp time skip confirmed

[metro-nix]

These things have been sitting in my folder waiting to be posted, so together they go. Give it up for a creeper, a caricature, a badly remembered face, and Gundam Benry.

#mx creations #traditional art #fanart #creeper #Minecraft #Minecraft mobs #Aaravos #TDP Aaravos #The Dragon Prince #Mei #LMK Mei #LMK #Benrey #they're really underwhelming I skipped over them so many times I just want them out of here

[pheonixrainbow15]

Time Skips!

This should be quick

So the short-short Inheritance provided a lot of insight on how callum's feeling post-ttm. But how long has it been since the moon nexus incident, and since rayla ran away?

And just for speculation on the show itself, how long will the time skip be for season 4?

In the story, it states:

It's been months since anyone has set foot in viren's lair.

And the last time we'd seen viren's office was in season 2, episode 9 when we found ✨🍓Gren✨

It's safe to assume the guards did a quick sweep in his dungeon around the time viren was arrested. And that's the last time we'd heard of that place.

So what does that tell us?

Real quick explanation

At the very beginning of season 2, Callum tells us that season 1 was only a week. Applying that format to each season, season's 1-3 had taken around a minimum of 3 weeks.

So at the end of season 2 marked around 2 weeks, and was the last time anyone had touched Viren's area, then that's where the months start.

But that doesn't tell us much yet.

If I remember correctly, the time skip between season 3 and TTM is around a month. Adding a week(season 3) to that count, it had been over a month since anyone had gone into Viren's inventory.

I might be mixing things up but the bottom line is: Callum didn't check the area immediately after TTM. If he did, the text would've just said it's been over a month.

But it's been months.

It's clear it's been a pretty long time since anyone has been in the secret area, with all the dust and cobwebs mentioned in the story. But it's also been a long time since TTM.

It's been fewer months since TTM.

But it's still been a few months since TTM, rayla's departure, and Callum's birthday.

2 questions:

1- does Callum have a new outfit, or does the position make it look like a vest over a sweater??

And 2- so how long is the time skip between season 3 and 4?

No fucking clue.

It's near impossible to find an exact amount of time between TTM and this story. And for all we know, season 4 may start a while after this story. So there's no telling as of yet.

Maybe the sneak peek at the panel tomorrow will give us an idea of how long it's been.

#the dragon prince mystery of aaravos #the dragon prince #the dragon prince speculation #tdp speculation #tdp theory #its 1:00 in the morning and my brain is still working #but like Ice King said #no sleep for the sexy #i likely don't have my information straight #I'll probably make a follow up another day #i can't remember the time skip between s3 and ttm #fuck #oh well #rayllum #tdp callum #tdp rayla #callum #the characters may look physically older

[galactic-empress]

IM IN HYSTERICS WE HAVE A DATE AND TRAILER AAAA FINALLY

#the dragon prince #tdp #2 year time skip??? #his hair!!!!

[astraskylark]

I haven't been in the fandom in ages but believe me when I yell

WHERE IS RAYLA I MISS HER

#the dragon prince #tdp #no what happened to her #I wanna see time skip rayle #she's going to he cooler and sassier and edgier with a sprinkle of mental illness

[latin-dr-robotnik]

I sat through a very unfunny Netflix pre-show + show just to get a small teaser for TDP S4 but I DON'T CARE I WANT TO SEE MORE OF AARAVOS HOLY CRAP

#the dragon prince #hello tdp fandom it's been a while #the way aaravos way toying around with viren looks soooo interesting #and since there's a time skip between seasons i wonder how that'll play out #but man we gotta wait until later in the year and it's so toughhhhh

[acidicdreamer]

Not to be taken as criticism or anything but next season I’d really like Rayla to form a friendship with a girl that is around her age. The dragang is cool but atm kind of a boys club? I’m just totally game for girl friendships ok

#tdp rayla #rayla tdp #it’s one of the few thing I’m missing tbh #i dunno maybe she formed a few friendships in the two year time skip we’ll see I’m very hopeful #I feel like Claudia might have had a few girl friends at home but understandably can’t see them right now lol

[moodyseal]

i hear you are 🤡clowning🤡 over Commodus coming to his senses so I have slid into your inbox to 🤡clown🤡 with you about it

What 🤡clown🤡 thoughts have you been harboring about this👀

for science.

🤡<-me and you

SOMEONE WILLING TO CLOWN WITH ME A BIT okay uhm. I was mostly having thoughts about the reasons for his behaviour, actually, and in the end I came to the conclusion that he's not entirely unredeemable, or at least he wasn't up until the fight at the Waystation in TDP, where he became a serious threat to the lives of the people who lived there (and actually got Heloise killed)

Like, if you ignore for a moment his past deeds and historical background (because if we accepted the atrocities as quirky parts of Apollo's personality we can do the same for him /j) and look at what he actually did for the first two thirds of the book, you'll notice that he wasn't as cruel as, say, Caligula or Nero. For example, he didn't kill all the prisoners he was holding captive, like Caligula would've done, even if Georgina (and maybe Hunter, since she's one of Artemis' hunters) was the only one that was actually useful in luring Apollo in, and at the end of the book he was still agreeing to let everyone go as long as Apollo and Meg went with him.

This shows that he is capable of some kind of restraint and not totally incapable to be reasoned with, which makes for some solid villain redemption arc material; the only problems, other than his small bloodlust problem that, again, we'll skip over for now and deal with some other day, are

a) the behavioural issues his relationship with his father led to (that could've been actually dealt with if only someone told him that therapists are an option today),

b) his ugly, horrid desire of revenge against Apollo,

and c) his narcissistic tendencies, which resulted in him not acknowledging the whole concept of. You know. Other people's feelings and how his actions might affect them.

They're all intrinsically tied together, and as a whole they're the main reason why, in the past as well as after his death and deification, Commodus was unwilling to accept any sort of help or suggestion coming from the people around him, and Apollo specifically. Before his death, he didn't acknowledge that there was a problem with his behaviour at all; to him, his actions were always right, and the people around him were vilifying him when he didn't deserve it, all while trying to suffocate his desires and needs. The lack of his father's support throughout his adolescence only intensified those feelings, and at the same time rendered him all the more vulnerable, making him latch strongly onto anyone he felt like would always support him—Apollo, in this case. Inevitably, the betrayal of the only person he trusted unconditionally (which was done for Rome and its citizens' own good, but was still a betrayal) had an explosive result, leading to Commodus' attitude worsening, him becoming effectively deaf to the guidance of anyone who didn't agree with him (when in the past there was a chance that maybe he would have listened to Apollo, at least, had he intervened sooner) and, finally, him making his life's goal destroying Apollo's life.

Despite the fact that any last bit of love Commodus had for him turned into blinding hatred, though, there were still some feelings in his heart that weren't rage. He didn't show them; on the contrary, he tried to hide them, and that's because they were a sign that there was still some vulnerability left in him—that he cared, to a degree. Had Commodus' revenge been the two dimensional kind, where he didn't give any sign of care about what happened two thousand years before and operated solely on the train of thought of "kill, maim, destroy" even when he barely thought about Apollo being the reason he died, I wouldn't have thought of there being a chance of him coming to his senses. But instead, with these feelings, Commodus demonstrated that he didn't forget, and that as much as he hid himself behind his glitter and his spectacles and his luxurious palaces, what Apollo did ultimately affected him. He still cared about what Apollo did in the past, and about what he was doing in the present too. In a way (and this is purely my personal perception, as everything I've written above is) it seemed that, consciously or subconsciously, he was even waiting for some sort of feedback, for a response that Apollo didn't give.

Why else would he insist so much? For what other purpose would he throw back his death in Apollo's face again and again, if not to get a reaction out of him?

I don't actually know how, exactly, it would be possible to fix all these issues, as well as their relationship. I have thought a lot about a scenario where Commodus realizes he's in the wrong, where Apollo manages to bring him to the good side just like he did with Lityerses, and this behaviour of his is exactly the reason why I never figured out how it would happen. How do you help someone who doesn't want to be helped? Apollo tried and failed, didn't he?

Maybe not enough.

It's true that Commodus was a selfish, arrogant man, as it is true that Apollo tried to help him, only giving up on his insistence when the man he loved went down a path of no return. It's also true that he didn't reprimand him for what he did once, trying to get to him through good humour and support, being too permissive when Commodus didn't need permissiveness, but some strength of character from someone he trusted. It's also true that Apollo never apologized.

I don't remember much about TDP and TTT, but didn't Apollo never mention once to Commodus the reasons for what he did? He cried about that day on his own, never with him, never showing Commodus that he has suffered for that murder just as much as he did.

Maybe the apology wouldn't have changed anything, maybe Commodus would've stayed the same ruthless man he's been for the whole series. But I like to think that it could've potentially stirred something inside him anyway.

#this isn't to say that apollo was at fault for how things turned out #commodus' actions are his own responsibility #and he stays evil through and through because he CHOSE to do what he did #but still. still #it makes you wonder. what would've happened if they all behaved differently #lonely thoughts #ask #trials of apollo #toa #btw i remember people talking about this on the server #so if any point seems familiar it's because i've assimilated it from the conversations on there <3 #also sorry if this makes no sense lmfao it's really late and i'm tired

[sarasade]

On Claudia, Viren, Aaravos & Claudia's Character Arc

This post is mostly about Claudia's character development or should I say character deterioration.

It's highly likely that Callum will be the one to take down Aaravos- like it all goes back to Harrow's letter in s2 and chains of history and the themes of free will vs destiny and such. Aaravos possessing Callum is all about that. He's literally taking control of Callum's faith. There is clear antagonism there that's in a direct conflict with who Callum is.

But at the same time Claudia is the one who's got the biggest personal beef with Aaravos. He exploited her grief, manipulated her and used her father to accomplish his own goals. If Aaravos didn't exist Claudia wouldn't have spent two years of her life in a complete stagnation waiting for her dad to come back from the dead instead of moving on. It seems like Aaravos has been molding Claudia into his personal minion through dark magic during the time skip as well.

Taking this into account it would be really satisfying to see Claudia snap out of it and take her revenge. Characters having a personal connection to the villain always makes a story's climax more gripping. More personal the better! And everything between Aaravos and Claudia is VERY personal.

That's why Viren worked so well as a foil to Callum and Ezran in s 1-3. Especially Ezran whose rightful place as the king he tried to take. He was basically their shitty, power hungry uncle who turned against them. Side note but if Viren is still alive I hope he makes a return as Ezran's foil.

Claudia helping to take down Aaravos would be emotionally satisfying. All the elements for that are already there. Of course Claudia should come to some kind of realisation about the way she's been used by Aaravos before she can take that turn. I doubt the show's got the time for that but it's an interesting possibility to think about.

I really like how the plot around Aaravos manipulating Claudia is done. Even Claudia's own father didn't do anything to prevent it from happening although all the signs of Aaravos having sinister plans for Claudia were there from the beginning: Aaravos calling Claudia "an asset" and encouraging Viren to lie to her in s3 therefore enabling Viren's worst impulses while also using them to his benefit. It's SO EVIL (and I love it). Viren isn't that much better since he always had some kind of excuse to ignore the red flags. At this point of TDP's run I'm convinced that Runaan's "Faith worse than death" line about Aaravos' mirror is finally paying off. It means that the consequences of Viren's actions have hurt Claudia, the only person Viren loves unconditionally, in an unfathomable way.

I think Claudia's arc is relatively subtle and very well done. It balances between Claudia being a victim of manipulation and neglect while also giving her agency to influence the plot as a whole. My only complaint is that Lost Child short story should have been implemented in the show itself and not just be extra material. I have some other grievances but those are mostly fandom related.

How some fans, especially in YouTube reviews, talk about Claudia's downfall like it was inevitable because she's always been fucked up or talking about how "trauma isn't an excuse for bad behaviour" is strange to me. Like, yeah, it isn't an excuse but it's simply just bad media analysis to instantly jump into condemning Claudia's actions, like she's a real person who uses trauma as an excuse to hurt other real people, instead of seeing it in the terms of a character study. Claudia clearly uses trauma to convince herself that what she's doing is right but never tries to manipulate anyone else by using it as an excuse. Think about her and Terry for example: she usually refuses Terry's help instead of trying to garner sympathy from him. This character trait is one of the many reasons why she felt obligated to keep her family together as well. She's extremely stubborn and not very self-conscious about her trauma brain but she does understand why others would see her actions as objectionable. I think this character type (usually a woman) has been given the playful nickname "trauma bitch" in the internet lexicon. Anyway god forbid if we actually empathise, reflect on and engage with unpleasant or problematic characters instead of instantly condemning them.

TDP is about how people can always CHOOSE a different path. Viren's dark magic hallucination in season 5 stated this very clearly.

In Claudia's case it's more interesting to think about WHY she DOESN'T choose differently. That's where all the meat of her character writing lies.

Claudia's arc is what happens when the desperate actions of someone motivated by trauma around abandonment are taken to their logical conclusion in this fantasy setting. It's a fictional story, it has metaphors and shit. Fantasy genre has used necromancy and extending one's life by magical means as a story element to explore humanity's relationship to death many times. The metaphor for loss and regret basically writes itself. Ursula Le Guin has used this trope in The Earthsea books, Peter S. Beagle's The Last Unicorn has done it etc. Everything can't be a one to one comparison to real life (trauma rarely makes you want to kill your friends with dark magic irl. idk that's just me though) and there needs to be a level of abstraction involved in a fantasy story. Abstraction and metaphor, paradoxically, can reveal a greater truth about the world. (I'm probably accidentally quoting someone here but can't remember who.)

Anyway the rest is great. When you think of it all for a moment it's pretty fucked up how Claudia has been used by Aaravos. It's not some tiny part of Caludia's story. It IS her story. And Viren set that norm for her. Viren too has abused Claudia's trust. It's a complex subject and probably requires its own post since Viren, Soren and Claudia's situation reflects some pretty realistic dynamics real life troubled families have. That's why the characters compliment each other's stories so well. Viren is a more realistic character after all when Aaravos is more over the top and symbolic and less of a real person. Aaravos is one of those villains who embodies the opposing ideology of the heros. We (still) don't know almost anything personal about him so he matters mostly in relation to other characters.

Thanks for reading this Claudia propaganda! I've had so many of these in the drafts. Anyway TL;DR

#they did a callback to the unicorn horn spell in s5 #rule of threes guys- what if they use the unicorn spell on Aaravos? #like the whole fandom has already figured that Nova Blade is not gonna cut (heh) it #being real salty about TDP YouTube here lol #not to be that person but- is engaging with a complex female character's story really asking too much? #tdp meta #sarasade text #the dragon prince meta #tdp claudia