#warframe theory

[r0semultiverse]

Ablrecht Entrati is the Y2K bug

Can anyone figure out what the virus text says? I think it's void-related based on the eye imagery, but I'm not 100% certain whats going on with that. 👀

Look at the clock in the background, literally a minute away from the year 2000.

#I've watched this like 3-4 times now & I keep piecing together more stuff #this is just a really cool detail #also doctor?! did albrecht originally invent the infested only for dr. tengus to discover them later on?? #I have so much more now that I want to know about the timeline #seems like the year 2000 was when the infested were being tested out; looked a bit different less fleshy & incomplete looking #did this part take place on earth before it became uninhabitable? is the y2k bug event what made earth unihabitable?? #theres soooo much I wanna knowww!! the looooorrrreeeee! #this is a universe where the y2k apocalypse is actually real #mine #op #warframe 1999 #warframe #warframe spoilers #albrecht entrati #whispers in the wall #warframe theory

[orowyrm]

just had some INSANE revelations and theories about duviri, the orowyrms, and dominus thrax in the group chat and i’m at work atm so i can’t re-type it all but i’m posting screenshots of the convo because i’m genuinely losing my mind about it all

*I HIT THE IMAGE LIMIT SO THE REST IS GONNA BE IN REBLOGS SORRY*

#CHECK THE NOTES FOR THE REST OF IT I KEPT HITTING THE IMAGE LIMIT LMAO #warframe #the duviri paradox #warframe spoilers #dominus thrax #warframe drifter #warframe theory #i guess? more like speculations but. what ever

[not-a-skeleton-and-is-a-human]

Next warframe is called jade, right?

‘The jade light’

Is she the one who turned people to glass? Is this why she is related to stalker because she was closer to the higher ups of the orokin, maybe even killed stalkers direct master

#warframe #warframe jade #warframe stalker #warframe theory

[bassuwun]

So in the latest Devstream they showed us the prison and the new frame that came with it. They also showed us it’s warden and asked us to guess who he was, which most thought Ballas because of his looks.

That does not make a lot of sense to me, but I could see him being a person like Ballas. There is also a missing person in Duviri, a named character who does not currently exist in the world to my knowledge.

The Lonesome Shawzin player talks of a person named Fergin who I assume is his brother. Despite Fergin being a horrible person and telling this man to jump of a cliff everyday he is still missed. Fergin also likes Komi, and calls it a true Orokin game while the Shawzin is just for Dax. 

Also it just seemed odd that this named character existed in the background but we never see or hear from him.

#there is another lonesome shawzin in Deviri in a cave although the person it is with does not play it #if Fergin does exist in the world and I just didn't know please do tell me #anyway fuck that guy #warframe theory #duviri paradox #warframe #also any thoughts on the Despair Spiral that they seem to be adding

[tenno-aster]

It kinda seems like Dominus Thrax gets "possessed," based on his mood?

Each of the Moods have a corresponding figure (which Mother seems to describe) who directly interacts with the player.

DE just put out a little teaser showing the Anger mood, where a distinctly different voice calls Duviri their kingdom. Prior, Thrax seemingly spoke in slightly different voices, but it wasn't as different as this new one.

The obvious explanation here would be that Thrax has DID. But I don't think that's the case, as this new voice also seems to think Duviri belongs to it, thus implying it is still Thrax's identity.

So maybe what is happening is that Thrax is somehow channeling these personas (who could be historical or mythological characters) with every mood. The personas represent an archetype, and Duviri seems to be heavily structured around the concept of theater. So Thrax plays them as a part, and perhaps vice versa.

#Warframe #the duviri paradox #warframe theory

[xeilon]

I was looking through the Warframe wiki and (once again) I realized that probably the most disturbing / unexplained thing here is how the hell is Teshin still alive? And it got me thinking, and with every idea it gets worse and worse? We also don't know for how long have he known the queens, and maybe it's all connected? I have a few theories, but they are a bit long, so I put them under the cut.

1. The most tame theory:

So Teshin IS a liar. He kept the queens' secret, shitting on the Lotus throughout a whole quest, telling us how we can't possibly trust her because she's been keeping secrets from us. Conveniently "forgets" to mention that he is a Dax etc.

So the guy decides to fib a little and tell the Tenno that no, of course he didn't go into stasis, HE just "searched the long path for redemption". 🙄

The queens found him a few years before the main plot started, woke him up, and he's been serving them since, also running the Conclave between his missions.

2. Slightly worse theory:

Teshin has been with the queens from the start. As in, since the fall of the Orokin empire. Some Orokin escaped with their guards, grineers, Dax. He was fighting in the same location as where the twins were, and they commanded him to come with and protect them.

Tyl Regor calls Teshin a pseudo-Tenno and is surprised to see him... alive? Why would he?

The Tenno during the game are mostly known for one thing: stirring up shit in the empire and then disappearing.

What if the queens decided to put Teshin in cryosleep for most of the time and then wake him up for missions. Find them new bodies, fight against an uprising, let Tyl Regor examine him to make more "durable" less mutated grineer using orokin technology. And then, when everything is said and done, he goes back to stasis.

Just as the Lotus thought the Queens never existed, Teshin is just a mere ghost story for the average grineer. Those who met him (like Tyl Regor) don't know he's a dax, they just think that he's some Tenno like soldier who the queens managed to capture and then was killed.

His newest mission might be to get close to the Tenno and either steer them towards the grineer / orokin faction or bring them to the queens for continuity.

He searched the long path for redemption through living in a limbo of life and fake-death. Maybe after a while it just didn't work. His body was asleep and unchanging, but his mind was aware. The things he learned in this state were the skills that helped him help us during The War Within.

3. The worst of them all:

We know from Vorunas backstory that the Orokin weren't the only ones who could preform the continuity. We also know, because of the existence of Varzia that there were Dax put in stasis. So who's to say that the grineer queens haven't actually told a lot of Dax to come with them, and put them all into stasis except one. Teshin.

He does their bidding, time passes he gets older and when he can't preform well anymore in his current body, well, there are others. A bit of kuva and everything is solved.

The queens wouldn't use dax bodies for continuity, because they then would inherit the dax's weakness - being unable to defy the symbols of the orokin.

On the other hand, not preforming continuity on him is just too much work. A new dax that doesn't know/understand the structure of the grineer army? Someone who has to be taught the language and the rules? Someone who doesn't know about previous missions, who doesn't know the enemy? Continuity just saves them the trouble.

After all, Teshin did tell us that he believes the kuva is both an elixir of immortality and a corrupting poison. Maybe he knows it all too well.

#3 theories about teshin staying alive after the fall of the empire but they are getting darker #warframe #warframe theory #the war within #teshin #teshin dax #the grineer queens #dax

[giganotus]

Warframe really went "what if you not only got the attention of a Great Old One but also got it to be pissed off at you specifically?"

#warframe #whispers in the walls #the man in the wall #WALLY'S FUCKING PISSED #HE'S SO MAD #I could go off on theories about Wally and why he's angy but I wanted to shitpost lmao

[wainwrightjakobshammerlock]

Drusus had a WARFRAME as his assistant?!??! So does this mean he's a Cephalon or maybe a Necramech Construct?

#apparently a common theory is that he's a Solaris #but um. yea i dont think fortuna existed back in the days of the labs #my post #warframe #dante unbound spoilers #warframe spoilers #text post

[holistichiatus]

so... drifter's fucked up hand, am I right?

I was wondering how drifter could have fixed their hand before new war since their hands are normal looking in the origin system. then I remembered.

natah is a mimic.

so what if her hand slowly took on the appearance of drifter's normal hand and they are part sentient now. this would also be the reason they can use transference, based on what teshin tells us when we choose our warframe.

they also threw up their hand during the natah chase scene in New war like they expected to be able to do something to defend themselves. it wasn't an "I'm trying to shield myself" move, it was an "I'm trying to return fire" move

#warframe #duviri spoilers #warframe spoilers #warframe drifter #wf theories #def fitting this into my drifter's lore #literally anyone is free to add this to their drifter's lore too. im not claiming i own this idea #drifter tam has always been ambidextrous favouring lefty and i think this plays into that very well #holistic thoughts

[r0semultiverse]

Is Ablrecht Entrati hopping through space-time to ensure he becomes The Man In The Wall?

Making sure canon events happen ever since (or even before) 1999?

#someone make an edit of him showing up to the train station with the canon event music PLZ #his ex hubby loid is like plz take this also giant void statue body & knock some sense into my Albrecht #real miguel spiderverse vibes but this guy is ACTUALLY an antagonist like full on #although without albrecht entrati messing with everything... if we take him out do we cease to exist or does eternalism save us? #because of eternalism even if we chop albrechts pod in half (assuming he's not just dust in there at this point) he would still exist right #how do we beat this guy?? hes a reality warping altering level threat that exists in presumably multiple capacities #I have SO many questions! #is this a time loop; butterfly effect type thing; or what? #mine #op #warframe spoilers #warframe #warframe 1999 #the man in the wall #albrecht entrati #whispers in the wall #warframe theory

[void-skoom]

Man wouldn't it be wild if the Man in the Wall was another alternate version of our operator/drifter that never made it out of the void?

Like the Drifter, they learned how to control the void and turn it into whatever they want but they could never actually escape it and eventually drove themselves mad trying.

Then after an eternity something - or rather someone - finally breaks through to them; Albrecht Entrati.

Time in the void is far from linear after all. And once that barrier was broken, maybe it finally had something to grasp onto to drag itself out from that nothingness and plant itself firmly back in reality. Then the Zariman accident happens and hey would you look at that? It's right back to the beginning of it all, except now things are different. It's become the very outsider they had once feared.

An outsider looking in with the power to meddle and change itself and everything around it. Long has it forgotten who or what it once was but here now is the ship who's very being has carved itself into the back of the entity's mind. It's own birthplace. And suddenly it's looking at a child who's face feels so very achingly familiar and it grins.

#warframe #but hey thats just a theory #A GAME THEORY-*shot*

[ritasanderson]

Like how Dominus arm is just there, manifesting from the angels remains

#warframe spoilers #my screenshots #still onto my theory that dominus is not a doll

[harrow-unchained]

Love how every WF blog here (myself included) all collectively have the same reaction: the hell did we just watch?

#but it was amazing #Warframe #Tennocon #I have so many theories and so many questions

[tenno-aster]

The other thought I had on Duviri is that maybe every entity inside it is actually a puppet and extension of Dominus Thrax.

Pablo basically confirmed in yesterday's AMA that the denizens of Duviri are puppets and void manifestations. We've seen that void manifestations can be created and affected by intentions and concepts. Thing looks like a gun, now it works like a gun. They reflect the thoughts of the observer.

What if Thrax manifested the denizens himself? Perhaps Thrax was incredibly lonely, felt powerless? So he manifested an entire kingdom. Everyone and everything in it acted only on his ideals. This would explain why the Drifter is so troublesome to Thrax. The Drifter is not subject to Thrax's whims. The Drifter is a foreign body that Thrax wishes to purge.

This might explain why Thrax's voice changes a lot. He's subconsciously playing every part in the play of Duviri, and perhaps there some spillage between these roles that leads to the multitude of voices.

Taking this further: what character have we seen prior that could control multiple bodies? Who was also lonely and cast out of a social hierarchy? Rell. Rell was able to puppet the corpses of multiple dead Red Veil agents, albeit through transference. Rell was cast out of the main group of Tenno. Maybe some version of him, still stewing in the Void, had gone mad and created Duviri through the shear potential of his powerful connection to the Void. A perfect kingdom that acted in his ideal vision, all of it to cope with his loneliness.

#Warframe #the duviri paradox #warframe theory #rell

[xeilon]

Why? No! No! Valeria!

I've seen people speculating about who is her before, how she must have been a fellow Dax soldier to Teshin, who lost her life protecting the Orokin against the Tenno, or, perhaps one of the Golden Lords themselves, massacred, with him being able only to watch.

However, I don't think she would have been any of those things, in fact I don't think she died during the fights at all.

I came up with this theory while rewatching the Duviri Paradox trailer and especially from the comment made during the Devstream, that Teshin will be an important character to the Duviri plot.

So, I'm gonna start at the end, saying it now, evidence under the picture, that this lady IS Valeria herself, or at least the person who is meant to represent her in Duviri.

And I hear you saying: "You lost your mind!"

And all I have to say to this is "I've been non-stop thinking about a character that was name-dropped once, and was relevant for 10 full seconds with literally 0 information on her other that her name, FOR 2 WEEKS, OF COURSE I LOST MY FUCKING MIND. "

Now, having that covered, the promised evidence:

The Yuvan Theatre

The first time we hear about the Yuvan theater is during the War Within quest. Teshin describes it like this:

"A Yuvan theater, long abandoned. In ages past, I would have stood guard as the young and exotic were paraded through the mountain pass and marched by the viewing pane. They'd barter here, the Orokin. Withering and coughing as they prepared for their Continuity."

Part of the ceremony was described by Ordis like this:

"A harpish voice sings a song they've prepared in my honor. Its title the same as mine: 'Beast of the Bones'. I feel the crowd pulled inward, enraptured by the brutal verses, the sickening chorus."

Teshin, as a guard of the Golden Lords, would have had every chance to meet, talk, and have a close relationship with one of the singers of the theater, especially considering his own interests.

He gives us advice about our choices in a poem, one that he starts quoting even under the veil, he talks in riddles and verses, he believes having your mind be as sharp as your blade is a must, it's not at all out of character for him to be fascinated by this part of the Orokin's culture, and to seek out someone who can tell him all about it.

Faces of Duviri

Duviri is full of new, and old, faces, however only a few of those were important enough to appear in the trailers. Dominus Thrax, Bombastine, Teshin, and the singer who entertains Dominus.

In Duviri Dominus clearly meant to represent the Orokin, ruling above all, while everyone else is hoping for him to look at them favorably, and don't make their lives miserable. I believe Duviri is a world meant to torment those who entered it, most obviously by ridding the world of color.

The Drifter also has to parade around as the person, who he despises the most - Dominus - and Teshin? Well, he has to listen to the singing from far away.

(Interesting how the only 2 "places" that naturally have color in Duviri are Teshin's cave, and around the opera singer.)

(Even more interesting, is that if you go close to the Lone Guardian in a Conjunction Survival mission, you can hear her singing.)

The young and exotic

Another interesting thing in Duviri is how the citizens are the ones who look like the Orokin. Blue skin, one arm longer than the other, clothes inspired by Ancient Greece...

If Valeria looked like the singer in Duviri, then she must have been a perfect candidate for Continuity, wouldn't she?

And when the Veil started working on Teshin, the first thing it reminded him of were the lines of the Litany of the Dax that tell you to be patient, and do nothing, and just see how things turn out.

The Veil

A strange thing about the Veil is that it doesn't make you focus on a bad memory, but it very specifically turns memories "inside out".

When the Drifter got theirs the Veil would have had a much easier time reminding us of all those time when the Lotus abandoned us, when Margulis lied to us, but no, it instead started rewriting our memories of Margulis, to fit better with Ballas' fairy tale.

This tells me that memories seen by the Veil are fake, even if they are based on truth. However, Teshin was fighting against the influence of it, so there's a good chance that what he says is based on truth.

But... what does he say exactly?

Why? No! No! Valeria!

Why? Why would he ask "why" like that when the Tenno are killing the Dax and the Orokin around him left and right. There isn't really a question there, and even if there was, wouldn't that be angry? That "why" just sound... I don't know... not one said in the middle of the battlefield, but when something catches you completely off guard.

The whole thing sounds more like "I refuse to believe what you just said to me" rather than "how dare you kill her / oh no, she's dead".

"I-I can... see her... Tenno... why???"

Now, this is where things turn VERY good. Can you HEAR the amount of focus put on the word SEE?

This line to me obviously was said when the Tenno killed the Orokin, that used Valeria's body as their own. But something was out of place, which is that Teshin associates her with VOICE, the opera singer who he listened to for years while on duty, and he knows when "she" dies that he only SEES her at that moment.

He is confused at that memory, he was confused when it happened, knowing that Valeria was dead, yet seeing her die again, in the hands of the Tenno. And that's what the Veil can use, turning him against us. However, just like how the Drifter could tear down their mask, because of the absurdity of what they were hearing, that Ballas was the one who loved and saved them, well, Teshin too knew and felt how absurd all of it was, the anger and broken trust in the Orokin, hearing the voice of the one who gave Valeria the Kuva clashing with false memories.

And so he broke free, just to then fall into the Duviri, where a familiar tune started playing in that very moment.

#warframe #warframe theory #warframe spoilers #teshin #teshin dax #valeria #the new war spoilers #duviri paradox theory #the duviri paradox

[shubox]

Warframe Thoughts

I really, really hope that the Kalymos Protocol boils down to Albrecht Entrati leaving a footnote in the Grimoire for Loid that says "I know shit has gotten extremely real and I know you can handle it, dear, but please also make sure to feed the cat at 9am."

#warframe #kalymos protocol #lore theory