A masterpost of (almost) everything problematic Emilie Autumnâs ever said and written
Introduction
A few days ago, someone on asked @shefightslikeagirlâ about examples of Emilie being condescending/ableist toward other mental illnesses than her own, and/or trying to elevate bipolar above others. Hereâs my masterpost of the things I remembered and found (bear in mind itâs not nearly entirety of problematic things sheâs said). Itâs going to be a long, scan/screen heavy and commentary heavy text, so brace yourself for a lot of information. I think itâs all well known to old timers, but new fans coming arenât always âin the knowâ and keep asking about past dramas. Hereâs almost everything you need to know.
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When I was compiling all that and writing commentary, I had both MY personal opinion and the fandomâs opinions. I try to explain why those things are problematic. I added a lot of my own commentary especially in book scans section, in the form of me personally speaking to Emilie, as a direct response to what she wrote. Keep in mind it wonât be unbiased text, thereâs a lot of my personal opinions here, I think itâs impossible to write a completely unbiased, sideless, proffesional text at this point, cause a lot of what she said/wrote hurt/disappointed/disgusted me and others and it would be really hard to do this without even a slightest bit of sarcasm. (But itâs all good. Emilie likes sarcasm, right? She even thinks most of the world is too stupid to understand sarcasm, itâs only her that is so intelligent. Plague Rats claimed they love sarcasm too, so why not having some?)
Also, I donât care if I violated anyoneâs Emilie-protective feelings, I donât have problem with posting scans of the book. This version of the book is no longer available to buy in eBook version, no less in paper version, and I donât think it will ever be anymore. Fragments I posted are NOT included in newest versions of her book and to know the context, you need to take a look at at the text. I wonât tell you to read page this and this in a book that is impossible to obtain.
I know a lot of you will say itâs all a big exaggeration. Well, there are certain things I didnât pay attention earlier, things I took with a grain of salt or ignored, but now, as I got older, I notice those things and look at them a little differently. I listed most (not nearly ALL) things that were and can be viewed as problematic. These are just scans/screens plus commentary, I canât and wonât persuade you to change your mind or behave a certain way in current situation. Itâs your thing what youâre gonna think and do.
I know a lot of newer fans or those blindly in love with Emilie wonât agree with me or say:
1.    âOh thatâs sarcasm, sheâs not seriousâ
2.    âitâs not a big dealâ
3.    âitâs EA, what were you expectingâ or even
4.    âI know all that and I donât care.â Iâm talking here on that âholier than thouâ âIâm above you, suckersâ attitude.
To those I have following responses:
Ad. 1 Â No, not every time she said those things Emilie was sarcastic. Some things she meant 100% serious and itâs widely known. And even when she jokes or is ironic, this doesnât excuse her when she says completely hurtful, ableist, racist or (drugist? How do you call having biases against drug users?). âIt was a jokeâ, this way you could excuse absolutely everything. And the hurt still remains, additional hurt and harm. Think about it for a while.
Ad. 2 Â I wonât force you to understand anything, all I can do is laying out evidences and explaining whatâs so wrong about them. I cannot understand those who claim Emilie is 100% Innocent and has never done anything wrong. Youâre either painfully blind or youâre lying to yourself. Hopefully you will see it for yourself in a few years, when you grow up a little, or when she personally hurt you too (block you, lash out at you, cast you out of her Asylum).
Ad. 3 Â Well, we accepted to be in an environment of understanding and empathy, a house for outsiders, a safes pace. Thatâs how Asylum was presented. The most of if not entirety of hate/drama/hurt and problematic situations were caused by Emilie directly. NOW, now we donât expect anything from her. But back when all the shit was fresh and happening, we were confused and lied to ourselves, making unnecessary excuses for a grown up woman that refused to explain it herself and take responsibility for her actions, and we thought she would eventually grow up and change for the better each and every next time, up until most of us has had enough, either now with the current drama or a few past dramas.
Ad. 4 Â I canât force you to change your mind, also Iâm not forcing anyone to boycott Emilie, to stop listening to Emilie, to understand my point of view. Do whatever the fuck you want, I donât really care. Just donât boast around how little you care, how youâre âabove it allâ, cause it mostly doesnât speak well of you when you think all things are alright and easily dismissable. Also, nobody will look up to you as someone âcoolerâ or anything. Nobody cares if you ignore her shit or not. Do whatever the hell you want. Â
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Now, you can read entire thing or jump straight to the sections for whatever you need to read. Hereâs a little bit of introduction with commentary on her âwardâ thing, W14A, 3 diaries vs âEvidence of insanityâ parts of the books and the newest ECT bullshit she added to newer versions of the book.
List of sections:
1.   Introduction: the âasylumâ and âpsych wardâ/âEvidence of insanityâ/ECT
2.   Fatshaming
3.   Ableism
4.   âManatee R*tardâ
5.   Britney Spears
6.   Emilieâs feelings towards drug addicts
7.   Romanticizing of bipolar disorder
8.   Emilieâs bipolar disorder vs ânormal depressionâ and downgrading depression
9.   Emilieâs descriptions on people with other mental illnesses
10. Â Schizophrenia
11. Â Schizophrenia part 2/Emilieâs âjokesâ
12. Â Romanticizing of cutting and self-harm
13. Â Asexual discourse
14. Â Additional stuff, more or less discussed, also problematic
15. Final words and bonuses
RACISM:
Additional note: Iâm leaving recent racism case out. I might add this in the future if needed, but for now, I think youâve all seen everything for yourself. You can always read about the racism drama here:
https://shefightslikeagirl.tumblr.com/instagramincident/
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Introduction: the âasylumâ and âpsych wardâ/âEvidence of insanityâ/ECT
All throughout her career, EA referenced the hospital she stayed in as âasylumâ. âI got locked up in an asylumâ. This and also âpsych wardâ.
She claims W14A stands for her numer in the âasylumâ and W stands for âwardâ, 14 the number of the ward, A stands for the cell. She wrote that part of hospital she stayed in had words written over the entrance that spelled âpsych wardâ, from the way it sounds you can immediately see itâs impossible. Comming back to W14A, thatâs complete utter bullshit, not a single modern institution refers to their patients by their âcell numbersâ. No patient is âgiven a numberâ. Not in the way Emilie implied. Remember hand bracelets you get when you need to stay in a regular hospital? They always have a long number â itâs a number of a patient staying at the hospital, itâs considered a normal thing by everyone, nobody questions that and nobody feels personally offended or stigmatized by that. I believe Emilie might get one of those long patient numbers, but thatâs about that, only the number of X person entering the hospital. It couldnât be âW14Aâ. Her claims of the LA hospital having âwardsâ and âcellsâ as a fact, not some victorian metaphore, are lies. She didnât use those words to describe Emily with a Yâs victorian asylum, it was all about her modern day mental hospital. If you bought heavily edited 4th edition of TAFWVG (black with striped legs cover), you know that 3 personal journals of Emilie named âCutting Diaryâ, âDrug Diaryâ and âSuicide Diaryâ, got ridiculously cut and edited, Iâd say 90% of text got deleted and remaining text got randomly thrown on last pages of the book (it got omitted completely in eBook version). While those 3 diaries seemed like the heaviest but also the most personal and honest part of the original book, this feeling got washed out and destroyed completely by what she did to those diaries in 4th edition, somewhat putting in question their honesty. She compiled remaining edited scraps of all three diaries and titled them âEvidence of insanity: excerpts from confiscated notebookâ. And she added some fake âcommentaryâ from Dr Sharpe. Underlining certain fragments and madeup comments from Sharpe, explaining some things. All of them go like this:
Doctorâs Note: W14A exhibits paranoia and inability to remain in her own reality, begins to reference âAsylumâ more frequently.
W14A is clearly experiencing delusions â arrange for time in the quiet room, keep away from other patients.
She basically states that her doctored referenced her as a number. I donât believe it. Itâs fucking bullshit. Even such âevilâ doctors as EA considers Dr Sharpe to be follow their rules, donât give out ward numbers to people and donât refer to them by some bullshit âwardâ and âcellâ number. âPatient behaves this way or that wayâ â yes, but not âWard 123 Cell D seems delusional, schedule lobotomyâ.
Doctorâs Note: âHisâ is assumed to be referencing W14Aâs boyfriend at the time of this writing. We have been investigating the identity of this man and have narrowed it down to two subjects, one extremely famous, one marginally so. Names will be made available to specialists upon request.
What? I mean WHAT? Yeah, we get it, Emilie, that you wanted to let us know you were dating Billy Corgan and Brendon Small in those years, we knew this already long ago. But the whole ridiculous âwe have been investigating identityâ?! Go ask yourself which fucking âasylumâ doctor would care enough to do a fucking âinvestigationâ on the identity of someoneâs fucking boyfriends?!
But this oneâs most fucked up:
W14A seems to have disassociated her own identity, episodic, each lasting for a longer period of time. We suspect she will continue further in this â stronger medication is needed, schedule electroconvulsive therapy.
She implies they at least scheduled ECT for her, if didnât put her through ECT. There was NO mention of Emilie having ECT or having ECT planned for her in the original 1st and 2nd printing of the book. Not a single mention in interviews. Nothing. Itâs a completely made up thing she fantasized only recently. She rewrites her own history over and over, adding more layers of lies. Now this sounds more like fantasy thing, these days EA treats her book more as fantasy novel. But back in 2009, this book had been marketed as â100 % true autobiographyâ. Suddenly, she writes more and more fantastical additions to HER OWN STORY, which in effect makes fans more and more sceptical about reality of her hospital stay. She basically dramatizes that hospital stay. If she dramatizes and fills it with fake elements now, who said she didnât fake it 10 years ago? And people in the fandom had doubts about the way she portrayed the hospital stay for years, saying itâs a huge exaggeration and saying Emilie spits and rages at everyone in the hospital, feeling like a victim, when in reality all that was expected from her was following rules, and the way she was treated was the way everyone is treated in a regular mental institution. In effect, Emilie mainly made herself look like a spoiled brat. I donât know what is true, what is not, Iâm not saying some shit didnât happen for real, but I donât believe her âwardâ, âpsych wardâ and W14A thing. EAâs flawed and irrational depiction of modern day psychiatric hospital is another subject.
 But itâs also a real biography, just with mystery and time travel added, itâs so epic, but now that its finally here, I realize that a lot of people know so many intimate things about me and facts. Itâs like they know me better than like my best friends, I hope I donât regret it, but I donât think I will, itâs that whole honesty thing again you know. Iâd rather have 5 people at a show that love it, and likewise 5 people who read and understand or can relate to what I have to say; brutal, horrid truths about what really goes on in an asylum; itâs is really fucking uncomfortable, and Iâm not going to sugar coat it. I think a lot of people may not know what they are in for when they buy it, it is funny and entertaining, but with the truths that go along with that, and when I did âOpheliacâ, it was my truth and my obsessions, and the book is the same. It doesnât try to pretend that itâs something it just clearly isnât, which is all charming and pretty and nice, and all the things a supposed young woman should be. But I donât give a fuck, itâs either this or death, and thatâs what Iâm trying to convey. Itâs not daunting to share that with the world, itâs my relief that itâs out there now, so people know. I guess it comes down to that childish wish, or want to be noticed and be the centre of attention.
(Shakenstir interview)
Also once upon a time Emilie claimed TAFWVG is a 100 % historical bookâ. She claimed sheâs done a massive research for the book and she called herself a âhuge history nerdâ.
Itâs been proven by a lot of well-read people and victorian times fanatics in the fandom that her book is anything but historical, her knowledge of victorian times is very faint and it seems sheâs done no reseach for the book AT ALL. There are signs of blatant ignorance in this book, for example, âresurgence of bubonic plague in Englandâ when there was no bubonic plague in England in victorian times, or the usage of lobotomy in 1840s when lobotomy both as a term and procedure didnât exist up until nearly 100 years later (the only thing existing then was trepanation). Her âOphelia galeriesâ this is another bullshit: asylum tours were a thing in a previous epoque, Iâve never found ANY proof of specific âOpheliaâ galleries taking place at all. Do I have to mention thereâs no vultures in London? But thatâs a talk for another day.
Fatshaming
 Letâs just go straight to the scans.
4th edition of the book was heavily edited and modified. First the original story was hugely cropped up by the proffesional editor for a mainstream release, leaving all the bloody and ugly things out, like 3 diaries, abortion details, etc. Also suddenly making a 27 year old Emilie into a 17 year old Emilie. Nothing came out of that deal, except for the audiobook, which was this very edited and modified version.
Later came out also the paperback ânormal bookâ edition of Asylum. It was hugely modified too, but EA sneaked things she wanted back in. Sheâs not 17 anymore here, I think. She even added tiny pieces of diaries back, but in a completely bastardized version (to see why, check the Evidence of insanity section). Emilie literally changed characterâs looks, ages, stories and endings, she took time to do all that, but she didnât bother to remove her fatshaming stuff. No, she actually added some more, in a much harsher words.
Now, Iâll allow myself to take these screen from Asylum_Oracle Instagram story, cause itâs all phrased perfectly already.
Ableism
Emilie got terribly offended when she had to be transported in the hospital in a wheelchair. Itâs nothing out of ordinary â you may be alive and well and totally walking on your own, but they offer to transport you by wheelchair. I got transported in wheelchair for magnetic resonanse, ultrasound, etc. I donât know why they offer this, but I donât see the reason to throw tantrums about it. The wheelchairs they use in hospitals for that kind of transporting are just plain hospital wheelchairs, NOT specially adapted wheelchairs for physically disabled. I donât get why itâs such a big deal to her.
However, she doesnât have any problems with dancing and snaking around in the wheelchair onstage. This case was a huge drama, there was a lot of people offended, both physically disabled and not at all, also a lot of people (also disabled) dismissing it all and saying itâs not ableist. Itâs your opinion, but I think youâre lying to yourself a bit. Take a look at her response to reader letter in Bizzare magazine and ask yourself, is that alright? Is it alright to you that she considers being compared to physically disabled offensive?
When you see her dancing and laying dramatically and using wheelchair as a prop and fashion statement â it is fucked up. In this case, the fact that she uses hospital wheelchair doesnât excuse anything. I mentioned it to see that:
a)Â Â Â being transported in wheelchair in hospitals (donât know about psychiatric hospitals, so I say hospitals) is something totally normal
b)Â Â Â wheelchair can be used for both transportation and for general use of disabled people.
But using the wheelchair for something other than a vehicle for disabled and a transport for others (for example, people who arenât disabled but felt ill and arenât strong enough now to walk on their own), it is viewed as ableist. Using wheelchair as a fashion statement, on the cover of magazine, photoshoot, etc., including able bodied person sitting, or in the case of Emilie, hanging upside down from the wheelchair for the cool effect, is ableist. Seeing EA dancing and standing on that wheelchair, hanging upside down/whatever else during shows was extremely hurtful to those who cannot dance, stand or casually change position in their wheelchair. Those people cannot stand up and then lie upside down from the wheelchair in a âcool, fashionableâ pose. They use their wheelchairs as a necessity, not a fashion statement. Itâs not a cool show prop to them, itâs a thing they cannot move and function without in most of everyday life situations. The wheelchair can be both a blessing and a curse to them.
You may not notice that, you may not even think of it that way, but take a moment to actually think for a while, try to understand and empathize with those who are disabled and hurt by EAâs âWheelieâ actions.
Examples of lack of understanding for those hurt by the situation and Plague Rats dismissing them, telling them to âmake light out of their situationsâ and ânot take their misery out on othersâ (this is disgusting):
âBut the worst thing about that is her response to Bizzare Magazine question. She didnât consider how it might look to disabled people. She once again lashed out at the person asking and proceeded to make a victim out of herself, so fucking hurt by the necessity to use wheelchair once in her fucking life for a few minutes, so fucking hurt forever, literally, lifelong trauma, PTSD after being wheeled for a second from point A to point B, in a fucking hospital. And once again, as always, she points all the attention to herself, makes a poor wounded victim out of herself, then tells everyone who doesnât agree to fuck off.Â
(Big thank you to loveyou-x3000 for finding that photo - isnât it crazy that the only place you can find it now is the glorious archive of spreadingplagueoflulz⌠)
Transcription for those who have difficulty with reading from the scan:
Star Letter - Going to far?
I enjoyed Bizarre 161 from cover-to-cover, but the images featured in the Emilie Autumn feature were the only letdown.
I sustained spinal injuries and was milimeters away from having to use a wheelchair. The use of a wheelchair as a prop for an able-bodied model is entirely irresponsible and decidedly nasty. Iâm aware that Bizarre publishes material that some may find offensive, but I feel the chair is there to represent the possibility of illness, injury, the thread of imperfection, damage and weakness.
While I can only applaud you for your exposure of disabled models such as Viktoria, you undo all your fine work when you publish an image like this. Bizarre is on the frontline of the battle against discrimination based on cultural identity, so why propagate a misleading and unhelpful image of disability? - TraumaDoll, YourBizarre
Emilie Autumn says:Â Â Dearest TraumaDoll, thank you for your letter. Iâm sorry that you didnât see the irony in these photos. Iâve experienced being in a wheelchair while on suicide watch on a psych ward. Despite my mental health issues, Iâm far from being physically incapable, yet Iâve sure been treated like I am. This stigma will never end, so Iâll own my fucking wheelchair and Iâll brandish any tool thatâs been used against me and others. The concept of these images shows the jokeâs on me because if I canât find the humour in these situations, Iâll dry up and die. Your offence taken at my hard-won self-acceptance proves that I indeed have something to fight against - people with mental illness ought not to be treated like idiots who deserve no respect. Itâs this that I want to bring to the general publicâs attention. With Love, Emilie.Â
Again, everything is excused by the great irony. Itâs ironic, you just donât get it. Itâs all the great irony that seemingly nobodyâs intelligent enough to understand. In the past, whenever Emilie said something questionable and people started asking, itâs all been dismissed as âbeing ironicâ, the irony and highly intellectual sarcastic humour that you had to have high IQ to understand! (Take any older interview; Emilie loves to boast about her ironic sense of humour and how nobody understands her.) Also, screw what you feel - Emilie Autumn needs to make fun of mentally ill, drug abusers, plus sized nurses to stay alive. She needs to tell her schizophrenia jokes and pose provocatively upside-down on a wheelchair, cause if she canât find humour in mocking others, sheâll dry up and die.Â
No matter how bad was your experience, no matter if you had spinal injuries, if you were on the verge of death or disability, or actually you are using the wheelchair, just remember that Emilie Autumnâs experience was way worse: sheâs been through the hell of standard hospital procedure, the horrible necessity to sit down for a minute in a wheelchair to be transported, and her trauma lives on, this stigma will never end. Questioning the point of her hanging upside down from a wheelchair for a magazine is really offending, cause sexualizing wheelchair is her way of coping with catastrophic trauma of being sat down in a wheelchair for a minute or less. This way, youâre destroying her hard-won self-acceptance.Â
âPeople with mental illness ought not to be treated like idiots who deserve no respectâ. That would be very true and important quote, if only it wasnât put in a context it was put in. Emilie Autumn thinks that being likened to disabled people is offensive, being an able-bodied mentally ill and transported in a wheelchair is offensive, and so having to sit in a wheelchair and being transported is in her opinion being âtreated like idiots who deserve no respectâ. Itâs a really poor choice of words, no matter the intention. If mental illness people ought not to be treated like disabled people, then it sounds like itâs disabled people who are those âidiots who deserve no respectâ. I donât think she truly intended to call disabled people idiots, but the way she said it makes it sound so disgusting.
Take a look at the way she subverts everything. She finds using the wheelchair as a âtorture deviceâ of transporting her despite her ability to walk gravely offensive, yet she cannot see how wheelchair users can be offended by her using the wheelchair to pose/perform on. She doesnât try to understand why would disabled people and wheelchair users be offended by this kind of use of a wheelchair, she immediately turns it all around and accuses TraumaDoll of not getting her refined irony and taking a stab at her âhard-won self-acceptanceâ. Itâs Emilie Autumn thatâs the real victim of wheelchairs, right? Being likened to disabled people, getting the same treatment as disabled people, in her opinion (what happened to her was actually a way of transporting typical for every hospital, and being able-bodied has nothing to do with it) is worse than actually being a disabled person?
What the fuck does it really mean? It means that being SO OFFENDED by being transported in wheelchair implies that being compared to physically disabled is a biggest, worst offence to her. Thanks, Emilie. Iâm sure your disabled fans are really flattered.
She didnât really say âfuck youâ in this response, but she didnât really need to. The way itâs written already implies it loudly enough. If you know the way she writes her angry rants, the way she replied on the forums and formulated responses to any sort of criticism in general, then you know whatâs hiding behind her words, which are âpolitely civilizedâ only on the surface. What she wrote was enough of a slap to the face. âWith Loveâ was a bonus slap.
Manatee R**tard
I donât use that word and usually if its needed, Iâd write the word as above with **, but itâs her own words, so have them in full, as they were written.
âManatee Retardâ is a song written on tour and performed sometimes in 2009. It was a song about Captain Maggots, who was rumoured to be a âspecialâ inmate.
Lyrics:
âManatee Retard
Manatee Retard
Swimming in the Sea playing âround with you and me
Manatee retard
manatee retard
Sheâs an African dream, an ocean beauty queen
oh oh oh, manatee retard
oh oh oh manatee retard
manatee retard
manatee retard
manatee retardâ
âThe real problem is simply that we talk about a lot of things which is good, in our society, which is we can talk about child abuse, and rape, and all that stuff to some degree, but thereâs still so much we donât talk about, largely because we donât know. One of these things isâŚwell, on the subject of mental illness, weâve no fuckingâŚI mean, calling someone bipolar is now almost equivalent to calling someone retarded.â
Another thing that caused quite an outrage in the fandom. Emilie has a HUGE problem with women products placed next to baby products in shops. Hereâs excerpt from the book. Same thing was said on other platforms such as her forum (2009) and Instagram (2014), but in much harsher words. This time, if we didnât agree with her, we got called âfucking potatoesâ.Â
January 16, 2009: In Which There Are Questionable Items In The Feminine Care A
Dearest Plague Rats,
Can anyone tell me whatâs wrong with this picture???
[Photo of baby care products next to feminine hygiene products.]
(thanks Shefightslikeagirl for source)
Again:
Britney Spears
One of the things that really bothered me personally was how she spits at drug addicts and celebrities with mental problems. She constantly made references to Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan, describing them as âstupid starletsâ, âdumb fucksâ, stupid fucks loaded on drugs and making fools out of themself. Emilie clearly suffers because of how tabloids call Britney bipolar. She constantly highlighted that the reason Britney behaved the way she did (shaving head, showing tits, etc.) was because she was âfucked up on drugsâ, not because she suffered from any sort of mental illness. Now, Iâm not a fan of Britney and I donât know if she indeed has bipolar disorder, but we know she used to have severe mental problems at some point in her life and I think itâs very hurtful and cruel to judge âshe doesnât have this, doesnât have thatâ or say sheâs âa stupid idiot fucked up on drugs and making fool out of herselfâ. We donât know the reasons behind Britney Spearâs behaviour, it might have been drugs, but EA treats drug addicts with real contempt, calling them idiots and whatnot, inventing offensive names for them and blaming them for their own stupidity and blaming then for âgiving poor bipolar depressed victimized girls like her a bad nameâ. Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan give her bad name, just because they happened to have mental and drug problems and got called âbipolarâ by tabloids. Itâs not Britney Spearâs fault that tabloids armchair-diagnose her with bipolar disorder or whatever else. Britney Spears doesnât have any power over what is published about her in magazines. Itâs not her fucking responsibility to come out and say âIâm a dumb fuck, Iâm just a stupid junkie, please donât call me bipolar cause Emilie Autumn is gonna cry because of thatâ. Plus, how the fuck sheâs so sure Britney doesnât actually have bipolar disorder? Does the fact someone uses drugs doesnât allow you to have bipolar disorder, depression o rany other mental condition? Does the fact your name is Britney Spears and you play kitchy pop music means that you cannot actually have mental illness? Does being a âstarletâ scorned by Emilie Autumn and deemed âdumb fuckâ exclude you from having the âpriviledgeâ of having super fun and artistic glamorous bipolar disorder? Emilie acts as if Britney Spears couldnât actually suffer from bipolar disorder, like her actions couldnât be a result of that illness and like whatever eventual drug problems excluded her from having that mental illness. She considers her a fool that intentionally go out fucked up to get peopleâs attention and then get called bipolar, and intentionally âgive bipolars bad nameâ. She clearly thinks bipolar is some uncommon issue, a rare artistic disease that only affects artistic, special, chosen people.
Here are quotes both from interviews and journals.
(Bipolar) Â âItâs just like a blank, almost insult for someone whoâs acting fucking crazy, which essentially is doing something stupid.â
(Curve Magazine)
âThe thing is that bi-polar disorder/manic depression, to begin with, is so intensely misunderstood in a way that really affects people and really matters. It doesnât help if youâve got people in Hollywood â Britney shaving her head and showing her whatever-the-hell (I couldnât think of a clever word to call that right now) weâve all seen it a million times, and not just with her. Basically, a famous person behaves badly and the next day in the paper, they start calling her bi-polar. Itâs like âOh my God, she acted crazy, she must be bi-polar.â Itâs almost like calling somebody a retard.
Yeah, itâs like saying âThat bitch is insane, sheâs acting all bi-polarâ and the thing is, no, theyâre hopped up on drugs, thatâs what. They might be miserable, and they might have good reason to be, but theyâre not bi-polar â thatâs something entirely different. This condition has made me try to kill myself, but itâs never made me get out of a cab without underwear or shave my head. It made me cut my hair, but that was different â I left a few inches on there.â
(Glade Magazine)
January 12, 2008: I throw up my handsâŚ
âHmmmâŚSufferâs kidnapping and my plot for revenge has undoubtedly put me into a foul mood, something not entirely unassisted by my having been unable (happy âunâ day) to refill my myriad drug prescriptions while on tour leaving me still unmedicated (which, in accordance with the publicâs positively moronic understanding of bi-polar disorder, and yes, that is the exact same thing as manic-depression, folks, means that I ought to be out fucking some paparazzo guy whose name I canât pronounce and jetting off to Mexico after shaving my head and getting myself kicked out of the Four Seasons every night)âŚbut this would do in anybodyâs day, UNless of course, as Iâve said before, youâre a fucking potato (would you be surprised if I told you just how many letters Iâve received from good people telling me, âAlthough according to you Iâm a âfucking potatoâ - insert UNnecessary *wink* here - Iâm a big F-A-Nâ):
As long is no oneâs biting their tongue today, I will confess that I HAVE gotten into trouble at the Four Seasons, and Lady Joo Hee can confirm itâŚI was refilling our champagne flutes during high tea with the vanilla vodka I had stashed in my sarcastic pink thermos, and waiter boy didnât like it, poor thingâŚbest day evah!
Hey, Brit Brit, Iâm on my way!
p.p.s.
Note To The Press: Being Bipolar doesnât make you do any of the things that the Hollywood fucked-up are doing. Being a drug addict does. Thereâs a big difference. And itâs days like these that give me the slightest splinter of a reminder of why in the hell I am writing a book about it. So, please, remind me of this day when it comes out and I canât quite recall why I went to the trouble.â
(From forum journal)
Potato - A derogatory slang term used to describe the mentally handicapped.
And now weâre coming to another closely related subject, which is Emilieâs very visible disgust for drug addicts.
Emilieâs feelings towards drug addicts
I screened that next quote and seemingly forgot to save it and I canât find it now, sorry. But I remember that at some point she says specifically:
âThese people might have taken a lot of drugs, but I actually tried to kill myself. Which is more crazy?â
Yeah, sure Emilie, you gain upper hand in this argument. Those people might have taken a lot of drugs, but you win this round because you tried suicide, yes, youâre more crazy, congratulations. (Hey⌠didnât she actually say sheâs NOT crazy? Decide for once.) As if people abusing drugs donât try to commit suicide. As if they werenât suicidal, didnât use the substance they abuse to try to kill themselves. Their whole drug use is a long suicide in some way or another. People are drugs are just stupid, irritating, REALLY CRAZY honest to god lunatics, who are too stupid to actually have any idea of themselves, to have feelings and to ponder the oh so inteligent question âto be or not to beâ.
Thereâs no word on her being officialy âlunaticâ, i.e. mentally ill. Even if Kara is indeed mentally ill in some way, itâs pretty disappointing how Emilie categorizes and judges illnesses - depression and bipolar disorder patients are perfectly sane, itâs so offesive to call them crazy lunatics, this title is reserved for such oddities like schizophrenics and drug users. Emilie is not âcrazyâ, sheâs always âstark raving saneâ, itâs junkies that are crazy and violent lunatics. Karaâs biggest fault is mostly being loud and too talkative for Emilieâs liking, flirting with guards, talking out loud what she thinks. She shouted at staff, but her curses and other words didnât hurt anyone nor threaten anyoneâs safety, she got ignored just like every screaming patient gets ignored. Sheâs detoxing from crack and it would be honestly surprising if she acted polite and satisfied. Iâd like to notice that Emilie shouted and lashed out at hospital staff, nurses and doctors a lot of times too. She loudly cursed and âravedâ too, yet she doesnât deem her outrage âviolentâ or nonsensical (excuse me, in what way exactly âIf leaches ate peachesâ was more sensible and intelligent that whatever shit shouted by Kara?). Is her screaming fit directed at Sharpe really that much different?
Notice that Emilie calls Kara mad from the very beginning, when sheâs done as little as asking for mixed juice. No matter what she does or says, Emilie documents everything with a great joy and reserves almost entire page for calling her offensive names. She hears that guards are violent towards her and she doesnât have a sympathy for her. So whereâs your Fight Like a Girl attitude, Emilie? Where is condemnation of misogyny and abuse? Itâs horrible when men are abusive and violent towars women, UNLESS they are drug addicts?
If you donât view this as problematic, youâre very delusional. Sheâs got real issues and real prejudices against drug users.
Romanticizing of bipolar disorder
Thereâs a lot of weird things she says about bipolar disorder, she often acts as one true medium of bipolar disorder, some sort of proffesor specialized in bipolar disorder, knowing everything. She can only be an expert on her own bipolar disorder experiences, but just because she experiences this and that doesnât mean every person suffering from bipolar experiences same things as her. Thatâs what i feel about her madeup âstatisticsâ on three out of four bipolars jumping out of the window, or that âthereâs a bipolar phenomenon that every bipolar person in the world wakes u pat 4 oâclock!!!â What you have in mind is insomnia, not that a âbipolar thing is to wake u pat 4 oâclock on the fucking dotâ. Thatâs bullshit, but not most irritating of everything she said on the matter.Â
What unnerves me more is her glamourization of bipolar disorder. While she describes her struggles and downsides of the illness in lenght, she often praises bipolar, talks how it opens some special doors, how incredible it is, etc. She mentiones being bipolar in EVERY DAMN INTERVIEW, before even speaking about music. Sheâs the one that called herself âfamously bipolarâ in her own fucking biography promo description.
Some of these are just rather realistic descriptions of bipolar disorder and benefits of manic phases, but if you look at the sheer AMOUNT of bipolar mentions, bipolar talk being the staple of almost every interview, to the point where she sometimes brings up fucking word in word same sentences, as if she recited it from the memory (same as FLAG talk, same as âclassic music selling less than jazz, and itâs really fucking lowâ)⌠(Well, I tried bringing you more âvariedâ answers at least):
âSo when it comes to bi-polar, anxiety, whatever it takes you to this whole another world of creativity that is never ending.â
âIt puts you on another planet a bit to where you see things differently. You know, the sunlight looks different, everything looks different and it makes you a very dramatic person which then leads toâŚitâs like other people hear a leaf fall, and you hear a house crash. Thatâs something that makes youâŚyou have this intensity of experiences that need to be let out. You just see things differently which have a unique point of view which then makes it slightly interesting. Still unfortunate - Iâd still trade it in for anything else but, while itâs here, Iâm going to use it for all itâs worth so that Iâm not a victim of it.â
(Metal Discovery interview)
âIt is, and thatâs because nobody understands it. I know that Iâm derailing, but itâs fun to talk about the whole bi-polar thing for a second.
So I could either try to live a normal life and be 9-5, whatever, and have background checks and psychiatric evaluations and have that matter, or I can take everything and make it my career. Now itâs like: how can you fuck with that; itâs what weâre making money off of, and thatâs a beautiful thing*. Iâm honestly pretty proud of that, because Iâm not ashamed of anything.â
(Glide magazine)
 *She sure made a lot of money off of that, lol.
âAs a writer, a creative person, [bipolar disorder] gives you access to a place that you would not otherwise be able to go to.â
Interviewer: Youâre often described as being âfamously bipolar,â so I wasnât sure if all the drama was just part of the show.
âNo, that was all completely legit. It is kind of funny â and Iâm not ashamed of this in any way â that a large part of what Iâve fortunately been able to figure out and build a career aroundâ
(wrestling with pop culture interview)
Hereâs one of those repetitive answers:
 âThat access to a particular portal of creative awesomeness,â she says. âWhen youâre writing on the ceiling because you canât find enough paper to contain your thoughts.â Countered, unfortunately, by long periods of bleak depression. âSo it isnât a good tradeoff â no high is worth that kind of suicidal low,â she says.â
I want to make it clear that despite all that, she usually adds the bad sides of bipolar and she admits itâs not worth this kind of low, as stated above. But thatâs too much of talking on one subject only nonetheless â nearly every interviewer, no matter if he asked or not, has to listen to her ramblings on being bipolar. I donât think i know any other artist that boasts about his bipolar disorder on every occasion or brings it up as much as Emilie.
Thereâs a photo from 2012 where she shows her âbipolar pinâ, literally a button pin with both :)  and  :(  emoticons and âCertified bipolarâ text. It was really in a bad taste â wearing your illness as some sort of badge of honor or a title earned at your local scout meeting. I think the pin was stylized as this exactly, a scout badge, something to proudly wear around.
(If you happen to have this particular photo Iâm talking about, please send it to me!)
 Emilieâs bipolar disorder vs ânormal depressionâ and downgrading depression
âDepression is serious business, but itâs something you can develop through life. Bipolar disorder is completely genetic. Youâre either born with it or youâre not and thereâs no getting rid of it through any amount of medication. Itâs always going to be there, but itâs a matter of deciding after so much incarceration and suicide attempts, if youâre going to die or if youâre going to fight and live.â
Itâs not true bipolar disorder is strictly genetic, like youâre sentenced to bipolar from the beginning of your life. It can appear at some point in life due to stress, long drug use (itâs a chemistry after all, it changes your brain), some other lesions and other mental problems. Environmental risk factors include a history of childhood abuse and long-term stress. Itâs not true it only happens when you have a history of bipolar disorder in your family. Causes of bipolar disorder are still not clearly understood, but the fact is a lot of different factors and environments make an ill person and saying itâs ONLY genetic isnât really correct. Plus, i hate how she literally highlights that because of genetics, wheâs sort of doomed for this fate since her fake great-great-great-grandmother Alice Liddel, while âmere depression can be developedâ, âdepression can be easily treatedâ.
Emilieâs descriptions on people with other mental illnesses
(Reminder: Emilie considers herself mad, but also not insane, because bipolar is not crazy, sheâs âstark raving saneâ.)
It can just be about taking a person of any sort and can be as simple as bringing them this enjoyment or taking someone who has some serious problems and maybe reminding them while having a sexy sparkling fun time in one small way relying on your individuality to carry you through crazy times or not paying attention to a bunch of doctors who tell you that you are insane just because you do certain things doesnât necessary mean that you are crazy. Because you are bi-polar doesnât mean that you are crazy. Crazy is a whole different term.
Who is âcrazyâ then?
Again, sheâs âsadâ, other illnesses are âdangerousâ.
Now, brace yourself for one specific illness that got slandered in quite a lenghtâŚ
Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia part 2/ Emilieâs âjokesâ
Emilie has a penchant for making âmental illness jokesâ. She gets hellishly offended when someone says anything on her bipolar disorder, but itâs totally fine for her to make jokes on conditions she doesnât have and certainly doesnât understand. By the way, if you look at her schizophrenia jokes, youâll see sheâs quite misinformed about what schizophrenia is.
Yes, you do hear voices when suffering from schizophrenia. But you DONâT take on a 2nd persona, different to your usual personality. Developing unconscious personalities is a symptom of dissociative identity disorder. If you want more Wikipedia sort of description:
Dissociative identity disorder (DID), previously known as multiple personality disorder (MPD), is a mental disorder characterized by the maintenance of at least two distinct and relatively enduring personality states. The illness is accompanied by memory gaps beyond what would be explained by ordinary forgetfulness.
(taken from Troll Like a Girl, the quote comes from Opheliac Deluxe Edition.)
Ok, you donât find this offensive? Try putting yourself in a schizophrenic personâs shoes. I know EA offended a lot of schizophrenic people. And even if you donât have schizophrenia, nothing gives you permission to make fun of it or dismiss it. Or speak for everyone and claim that something is ânot offensive for schizophrenicsâ, ESPECIALLY if you donât have schizophrenia.Â
Next joke:
Hereâs an opinion of a person actually having OCD, plus something thatâs probably never been discussed this way:
You can hear all that and more here, by the end of the video. âWhat illnesses you do NOT haveâ⌠How funnyâŚ
So, are they lighthearted jokes? Emilieâs âway of copingâ? She claims itâs her way of coping, in order to not go mad, to not go and blow her head and drown herself, etc. and so on. Weâve heard it all in her interviews, right. Yeah, her way of coping is basically offending sufferers of other illnesses. Emilie, if you like joking about yourself so much, why donât you joke about your bipolar disorder instead of someone elseâs illnesses, which you donât understand? Why do YOU get so mad when someone jokes at your own disorder? Thatâs literally degrading someone elseâs illness to feel better about your own. Thatâs low even for you.
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Youâd probably protect Emilie saying âBut itâs sarcasm! Sheâs just showing victorian standards and victorian obsession with madness! But she herself speaks against romanticizing of mental illness in the book!â Yes, she speaks negatively about victorian and modern examples of romanticizng of mental illness, but at the same time she doesnât preach what she speaks, she romanticizes it herself. She spoke about downsides and suffering of mental illness in lenght, but she also wrote and repeatedly said A LOT of very problematic things, including stuff that is apparent glamourizing of madness and ESPECIALLY self-harm. I will sacrifice a lot of space for dissection of her Cutting Diary.
Romanticizing of cutting and self-harm
 ***(TRIGGER WARNING! Please donât read if you find this topic triggering, thereâs A LOT of glamourization of cutting.)***
Yeah, Cutting Diary. While I donât think itâs 100 % bullshit and she noted a lot of accurate observations (especially on how society views cutting and self-harm), she wrote a ton of questionable things in that diary that, no matter what her intentions were, sound pretty fucked up. And I think intentions are clear, she spoke her mind so clearly that there is really no point in further making excuses for her, attempts at finding explanations for the shit she wrote or saying that âshe didnât mean it, it was sarcasticâ â there was no sarcasm when she repeatedly called bleeding âbeautifulâ. Iâm aware a lot of people never had a chance to read it in full (Iâm talking to 4th edition book owners now â your book contains next to nothing from original story in case of Emilie Autumnâs story, she cut out at least a good half of hospital entries and she deleted basically entirety of her diaries, only leaving 10 or so scant tiny fragments, filed as âEvidence of insanityâ), Iâm aware some never read it because of trigger factor or never re-reads it anymore because of that. If you feel triggered by Cutting Diary/Drug Diary/Suicide Diary, I advice you to leave out this section. But if you look for specific examples of her glorifying self-harm with paragraphs and words highlighted, as well a bit of commentary, here in Cutting Diary excerpts you will find all that and more. As I said, not everything in that diary is shitty, some of her opinions are very accurate, itâs worth reading it to form your opinion (but not if reading on self-harm is triggering to you). But the fragments I posted speak volumes, thatâs best examples you will find.
She explains her reasons and feelings and how horribly self-harmers are treated by society very clearly and a lot of what she says is true. What is problematic however are passages where she clearly becomes enchanted (sorry for the punâŚ) with some sort of âbeauty of cuttingâ, she thinks cutting and bleeding is beautiful, uses a lot of pretty comparisons and words and expresses her pride of her new cuts.
This very attitude of âscarring so they see my pain/illnessâ is the reason that honestly depressed and struggling self-harmers get accused of being emo phase attention whores. I donât think Emilie started cutting purely for show, I believe, like a lot of cutters, looked for a way of escapism. But if sheâs done it as a âfuck offâ for all people asking, a visible proof of authenticity of her manic depression⌠thatâs questionable and naive at the very least.
I used to cut a lot, but I never deemed my blood flow âbeautifulâ, âsomething to be proud ofâ or a meaningful âartworkâ. I didnât collect my bloody tissues. I didnât have a treausured cutting kits or favourite âtoolsâ. My family used to take and throw my razors away. They also hid/threw out all the razors in the house, shaving razors, etc. They did that because they were worried and hoped lack of razors might stop me from cutting at least for a while. I would never throw a hissy fit about someone throwing out âmy favourite razorâ or âbeautiful artwork masterpiece and whole year documentation of Top 20 cuts on my bodyâ. I wouldnât make threats like âthis bitch better watches her backâ. This is fucking ridiculous. If thereâs ONE thing embarassing about it all (and I will always fight anyone calling cutting yourself embarassing, or cringey emo phase, or wanting attention), itâs this particular thing, raging at someone because she threw out your favourite razor, probably living in a cozy little bed made of victorian matchbox and called Mr. Thompson or Mr. Wilde, plus a true modern art of papers filled with âbeautiful droplets of crimson tearsâ. This is fucked up and this I would count to the list of glamourization of cutting.
I have somewhat mixed feelings about her want to have scars left, re-cutting the old wounds so that they become more visible, or worrying about scars that are fading away too fast. I think self-harmers just concentrate on the action of cutting, to feel the pain that would allow them to escape psychological pain, not on âwanting scarsâ. Thatâs so fucked up. I canât fucking imagine any cutter being GLAD that they have visible scars. Or STRIVING to get more scars, more visible. Scars left after cutting are a real torment to both ex-cutters and ongoing cutters because of how society treats cutters. Itâs a thing that fills them with a huge amount of shame and self-disgust, all those problems with covering wrists/other parts with clothes, worrying what if somebody notices, what if somebody asks, what if your friends notice and mock you and leave you. As a person constantly asked âWhat happened to your arms?â by complete strangers, mocked, called âemoâ and âattention seekerâ by people I used to call âfriendsâ, eventually left by those fucking idiots AND as a person that has scars so deep and visible that after almost 9 years are very much apparent (because theyâre healed white scars that wonât ever fade, theyâll stay forever), EAâs whole fucking want to have scars, to make them visible, to use them to let everybody show sheâs sick and unapproachable, this is fucking disgusting.
I donât think she still has this mindset anymore, but what she wrote in Cutting Diary is fucked up.
Asexual discorse
Ever since 2003-2005 Emilie claimed sheâs asexual. The problem with her identifying as asexual is her definitione of being asexual, which is as faulty as it could be.
Here is right definitione of asexuality.
Asexuality is the lack of sexual attraction to others, or low or absent interest in or desire for sexual activity.[1][2][3] It may be considered a sexual orientation or the lack thereof.[4][5] It may also be categorized more widely to include a broad spectrum of asexual sub-identities.[6]
Asexuality is distinct from abstention from sexual activity and from celibacy,[7][8] which are behavioral and generally motivated by factors such as an individualâs personal, social, or religious beliefs.[9] Sexual orientation, unlike sexual behavior, is believed to be âenduringâ.[10] Some asexual people engage in sexual activity despite lacking sexual attraction or a desire for sex, due to a variety of reasons, such as a desire to pleasure themselves or romantic partners, or a desire to have children.[7][11]
Emilieâs definition of asexuality:
About your sexuality; what are your tendencies? Are you hetero, bi, lesbian�
âI think for the most part I feel asexual, which is a kind like you are not completely attracted to either men or women, is in between spaces which is almost as to be bisexual, because you donât have a real choice. Iâve been with men, of course, but I love women so much (and you can see it on stage) âŚand thatâs what men think: âoh, this is what women do?â that doesnât make me a lesbian, itâs just what happened. But at the same time thereâs a part that I donât like, and is to donât be on only one side, because it makes me confuse. And often I watch all from the outside, and I watch all as it is fine, and I respect it. Iâm just proud that more and more people show their own tendencies and sexuality in a more free way, I speak even about my shows, where thereâs a âlesbian marriageâ every night. We started like a joke, and it develop in a very good thing, where people feel more and more comfortable to show themselves.â
Then, suddenly this happened:
Ok, if you didnât dislike sex, if you were attracted sexually to others, then you werenât asexual. From what i understand, she had a lot of boyfriends that happened to be bad at bed and suddenly she met someone who wasnât and she needed to tell everyone in the world⌠Itâs good she finally said she isnât asexual, cause it would be ridiculous if she still claimed to be, but itâs just that she was misinformed/didnât care to actually read wtf that means. Thatâs it â thatâs the whole asexual thing.
Additional stuff, more or less discussed, also problematic
Say that to women who had to part with their breasts because of cancerâŚ
Idk about you, but itâs the choice of photo that bothers me. This i san article compiling all the bad shit that happened to her â rape, abuse, depression, contrasted with info on sexuality AND a sexy photo session, with EA putting her finger between her mouth. I think weâre all not surprised that when asked about âwhatâs inside her mindâ, she will 100 % bring up bipolar, supplemented with rape and abuse. But this is fucked up. You have all that horrible traumatic stuff and itâs accompanied by sexy semi-lingerie photo. It changes the sound of it all dramatically, it makes it sound as if she lists all the traumatic stuff and make it look her sexy points. Like romanticizing. I donât know who chose that photo for this article, it might as well be Kerrangâs fault. She made that âQueen of Heartsâ costume specifically for Kerrang photoshoot. I donât know if she had that costume specifically in mind for this particular article. But itâs her own words, her own costume and her chosen pose. Idk whose fault is this, but it looks kinda distasteful. It make it read like âhey, Iâm Emilie Autumn, iâm super hot, and these are my super hot mental issues, and rape and abuse, wink winkâ.
Analogical situation: combination of heavy subject, suicide, with sexy suggestive pose. Sarcastic? Ironic? Still kinda odd. It didnât bother me before, but now it lowkey does.
âLithium chicâ fashion. Her sarcastic t-shirts with puns very intended. At the time it seemed super witty and smart. After you grow up a bit, itâs not so cute anymore.
âLithium chicâ is a play on âheroin chicâ, a fashion trend of 90s, which is a look promoted by huge fashion designers. Those designers not only started making âgrungeâ collections (a style based on flannel shirts, a common element of wardrobe of so called âgrungeâ scene of punk/alt rock bands like Nirvana, Mudhoney, Melvins, Tad, Mother Love Bone and their fans, bands coming not only from Seattle but also up to 100 kms away from Seattle, who wore flannels because of warmth and weather factor, not because that was in âfashionâ where they lived â designers of course took it and thought itâs genuine real fashion trend), but also created a âheroinâ look based on what they thought is the look of girls addicted to heroin. That look involved hot models putting fake grease in their hair, heavy smeared make up, ripped clothes and heavy boots and generally being almost anorexically thin. It was a straight up glamourization of heroin addicts.
Does it make it any better if itâs sarcastic? No matter what were EAâs intentions, itâs still tank tops with mental illness puns, itâs still making a fashion statement out of serious issues.Â
Personally, i didnât pay much attention to that matter. I remember how everybody loved those tanks⌠It seemed so witty at the time. People actually wanted her to sell that kind of t-shirts/tanks. Can you imagine yourself parading in that kind of tanks now? Iâd honestly feel pretty stupid.
 I think good part of fans/ex-fans will dismiss this case, ignore or like those tanks nonetheless. Tbh, itâs not the most offensive thing sheâs ever done. I donât feel anything when I look at those tanks, aside from the fact that I think now itâs rather distasteful. Itâs up to you to decide if itâs offensive to you. But itâs still something that CAN be called problematic and deserves its place here. What I find most fucked up is wearing your depression medice as a fashion statement. Itâs just as cringey as wearing âI love cocaineâ t-shirt. Who the fuck cares what you take?
This really irritates me:
Final words
My finishing 2 cents:
Laughing at mentally ill and mentally disabled, or considering songs like âManatee R****dâ cute and funny really does say a lot about your maturity and empathy. Downsizing and dismissing something just for your own comfort, because youâre âboredâ or uncomfortable, says a lot too. Donât tell others what to be or not to be offended by. Youâre not everyone and you donât make rules for what is internationally offensive or acceptable. There could be literally one single person in the world hurt by EAâs words and it STILL always be be hurtful words. The fact that someone else got offended is enough. Your âbut itâs not offensiveâ has nothing to do here and doesnât change that fact - it is offensive when it offended someone. Same with her idiotic claims. Emilie doesnât decide that sheâs not racist - if she clearly said something racist and silenced POC, and offended black (and other) people, the fact remais that she said something racist and behaved racist, no matter what sheâd like to think. Even if her intentions arenât purely racist, ableist, fatphobic from the start, itâs her actions that scream the most. Itâs her actions that showcase what she really is. And her actions paint a really unflattering image.
To those eager to excuse EAâs behaviour with bipolar disorder, EAâs own words:
Something to think about:
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