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#I hate drawing this star shaped mf
coffeeaddictedidiot · 1 month
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Achtung Baby
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They grow up so fast
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archive2394934 · 1 year
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I want to state that I absolutely love your account and your points. I’m a big fan of analysis especially with fictional tragic characters. And yes Henry isn’t a perfect person by any means, but he deserved a lot better and I hope when we learn more about his backstory we understand him even more. It’s also nice to see more people acknowledge that Henry did not create the Mindflayer. Personally I think the flayer let Henry form it the way he did and is using him. Plus there are also a lot of similarities that I noticed when rewatching the Lotr recently and Stranger Things (hell Lord of the Rings was referenced in season four). I feel like Henry is a combination of two characters, Saruman and Sméagol/Gollum and the MF is I guess the “Sauron” or the dark/evil force. I plan on doing LONG post in the future that explains this in a deeper way with pictures. But like there are a lot of references specifically with Sméagol. Both were corrupted mentally and physically by a dark force, both were casted out by said families, both were captured, abused, and isolated, both of them formed a “bond” with a spider, and both sought companionship with someone who understood them who would end up denying them. YES the circumstances and affects are different for sure, but both of them are tragic villain characters who were victims of their circumstances and how they were treated by those around them. (I know this is a lot, but when I rewatch Stranger Things and Lord of the Rings it gives me ideas 😭 and I wanted to share this with someone who analyzes Henry Creel more than just being a villain but a character that is super complexed).
🥺Omg thank you so much! I'm glad for that. Also thank you for sharing that, that is actually REALLY interesting. I see this fandom talk about things like LOR, and Horry Pooter and Star Wars and like parallels they find with characters and stories and I just have to sit and nod because I'm a fake nerd and those are the 3 franchises in nerddom I don't know anything about (insert your favs would hate you post and its the whole party + eddie @ me) so I can't really comment on them but yeah its always so INTERESTING reading posts about it and how it relates to ST. I know all the horror inpos, cos I'm a horror fanatic, and I also know most of the comic book inpos but yeah the actual fantasy adventure type inspos are the ones I'm NOT that familiar with--- at least not the bigger, most recognizable ones. Because I do know Legend somewhat and I'm pretty sure Legend has a relevancy to ST as well but I haven't watched it since I was a kid so I want to rewatch it and then maybe make a post about it in the future (if I can be bothered jdfkkdf) But yeah! I'd love to read your thing if/when you get round to making it! And I def agree, I feel the mind flayer is absolutely bigger than the fandom currently wants to give it credit for (Though I cant even begin to fathom why its so majority to completely refuse that idea). All the scenes and things I've pointed out would make no sense otherwise. And I think its extremely interesting how almost every one of the inspirations used to make Vecna as a character are characters who SERVE or are influenced by some type of evil entity as opposed to just being the actual or 'soul' big bad themselves. Plus Vecna from DnD has The Serpent and similarities between The Serpent and the MF from what is suggested in canon are uncanny. I also def think the MF probably kinda "coached" Henry into choosing that particular shape for it. It would explain Henry's weirdly accurate childhood drawing. Like I might think otherwise if Henry just drew that 'spider-shape' but the way he put such effort into depicting it as true to life as possible and for that drawing to turn out so realistic to how the MF actually did end up looking down to the 'texture' of it ... That just feels odd. Putting that with all the other little weird things in Henry and Victor's flashback it does add up pretty well!
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japanessie · 7 years
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@hiroki-moriuchi​ relogged your post http://japanessie.tumblr.com/post/158810918037/about-kissing-teruki and added
Though I agree with your explanation of the kissing photos, I have to say that it’s a bit difficult to say to ‘always look at the whole context when you see a picture’, because sometimes the context is just hard to find here on the Internet. It’s not particularly weird to draw the conclusion that Hiro likes guys after seeing a photo of him kissing a guy. Had it been a photo of him kissing a girl, the conclusion would have been that he likes girls, right?
Also, I have a question about your fourth point, of him yearning for love and affection because he’s a child of divorce. Has he ever said anything about this, or is this just something that you think? Because maybe being affectionate with his friends is just in his nature, and wasn’t much influenced by his past.
Hi! I decided to reply to you in a separate post instead to avoid the original post getting too long XD
Question 1
That last part in my post was something I decided to add to reflect my feelings about the need for fans to be responsible over what they say. Sorry if my sentences didn’t convey my intention very well.
I saw someone put that kissing photo on a comment column on an MFS Fanpage claiming, “Everyone in J-Rock know that Hiro is gay!!”. Not only was he clueless about Hiro but that person obviously didn’t know much about J-Rock music scene if a kissing photo like that shocked him. Yet, there he was, acting like he knew it all.
Then, I also saw someone on Instagram commenting the photo was disgusting and questioning other fans who were okay with it. Instigating hate over someone’s sexuality is not something I support.
It’s understandable for people to look at a photo of a guy kissing another guy and think, “Oh, he likes men,” and leave it at that. The issue to me is the people who make these assumptions and then try to convince others that their assumptions are facts without bothering to verify their claims. Just as serious as the “Taka & Hiro hate each other” issue which stemmed from fans’ assumption due to the brothers not being seen together.
I decided to write about this because @inapatricev said these fans kept bugging her with it. Even if an artist is a gay man, why bother girls who chose to fancy and support that artist anyway?
Info isn’t that hard to find if people actually research using common sense.
Question 2
This is the nature vs nurture question.
I was not making generalization about ALL children of divorces though. What I stated was specific for Hiro.
Yes, I did make a bold statement there about Hiro and his longing for love and affection with a strong linkage to his broken home history BUT my conclusion wasn’t just something I plucked out of thin air. Hiro may not have said it explicitly but it’s all there implicitly. Just as I was daring enough to say Hiro would be the one most emotionally affected by Sho’s absence, I also made similar observations here. 
It’s way too obvious when we put things together. The way he behaves, his song lyrics, the way he expressed himself in interviews and the people he surrounds himself with. I highlighted the one about him & Sho even before Countdown Japan 15/16 and certainly before the song We’re Just Waiting 4 You was released. It was impossible to ignore to me. Glad when Hiro proved my instinct right in the end.
What I said about Hiro is exactly what I would say to him if I somehow get the opportunity to have a one-to-one conversation with him.
Is being affectionate something Hiro was born with or groomed into?
Though I’m not going to argue that every baby born has his/her own personality BUT the human brains develop largely in the first few years of our lives. A child is shaped by his/her experiences and surroundings in these crucial early years. To me, nurture plays a bigger factor.
“Genes provide a blueprint for the brain, but a child’s environment and experiences carry out the construction.” -The Urban Child Institute-
The age gap with brothers Taka (6 years) and Tomo (5 years) gave Hiro the advantage of being the family’s baby fully. So, all the pampering and attention naturally went to him in abundance. He was also raised by very much older parents. Papa is 46 years older and Mama is 36 years older. Then he also experienced the same thing at Johnny’s. He was the youngest star there at the time. The other older boys were super nice to him e.g giving him hugs & piggy rides, making sure he was alright. At least for the first 9 to 10 years of his life, love & affection from these older figures were what Hiro was exposed to. To suddenly lose it at age 11 must have a deep effect on a child so used to getting it all.
Hiro got back that environment in MFS. With a big brother subsitute i.e Sho in the package as well. I noticed Hiro seemed to get along well with older people. Not surprising considering his background. I was also always fascinated by the way Hiro’s eyes looked at Taka when they were kids. Then I observed he was behaving the same way towards Sho. That man must have had evoked the same feeling this boy had with his own brother, eh ;-)?
Hiro made his feelings about missing these people very clear
“I wanna see you again someday I wish I wanna hear your voice again” -Someday lyrics (for the late Kei Goto)
“This is a very important song to me.” -Hiro’s exact words onstage in Kaohsiung, Taiwan about Someday-
“You are the only one who has completely changed my life ...... ...... come back forever one more time ” -We’re Just Waiting 4 You lyrics (for Sho Tsuchiya)
“Even if I can’t go back to those memories I will not run away from you” -Home lyrics (for his family)
“Someday I hope the five of us will gather again” -His actual tearful plea to his parents at the Budokan-
Going through these observations, I certainly can’t tear myself away from the thought of a boy holding on to the ideals of his past with every tender moment Hiro shares with his friends.
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