#I just didn't like a lot of cartoons from the early 2010s so explains why I haven't much of a taste for it

[spongebob-connoisseur]

@bluebellthesponge

You're right about it. Its seriously dorky and not in a good way. You're telling me the happy go lucky sea sponge would hate his modern counterpart for being happy go lucky? Y'all okay? I know they differ a lot now in personality but the core is about the same. Sometimes it feels kinda ironic. I remember a post on Instagram where everyone in the comments was hating on Mind The Gap saying it was a disgrace to Spongebob and that Hillenburg would've hated it. While it was MADE while Hillenburg was still alive and was noted that he laughed so hard at the episode and really enjoyed it. Also the fact that its inspired by a Jerry Lewis movie and Spongebob the character is inspired by the man-child type character's Jerry Lewis would play. The episode fits the idea of the show better than some classic episodes.

I feel like if the classic episodes came out today then they'd be hated on. Spongebob came out at a particular time that allowed it's success because it stood out amongst all the cynical 90s cartoons. If it came out today people would think its just mindless goofy nonsense.

I feel similarly about modern episodes. I'm sure if the modern stuff came out like 20-30 years ago then it would've done so much better.

I'm just rambling but yeah, at the end of the day its not meant to be taken so seriously that you'd make literal hate art. I get why since the classics are so dear to so many people and people are particularly sensitive to nostalgia but nothing lasts forever and not all change is bad.

#Train of thoughts #Sometimes I do think of how modern episodes especially fit the wacky offbeat stuff that was popular in the 80s #Its just timing since people want more serious plot driven cartoons now #They're tired of silly and innocent but that doesn't make it bad #If you wait a couple of years I can guarantee the episodes of today would be treated with more love #Spongebob always changed with the times #The middle seasons are a good example of it trying to copy what was popular in the early 2010s #As much as I don't like the middle seasons I can recognize that #I just didn't like a lot of cartoons from the early 2010s so explains why I haven't much of a taste for it #Anyways you can't expect the show to stay the same forever especially since its nearly 25 years now #Even with the same crew from way back when they aren't going to create the same things they did 25 years ago #Its easier to just say 'its not for me' rather than putting it down just because you don't like it #Replies #Bluebellthesponge #The Spongebob connoisseur

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Pretty Series song reviews: Vanity♥colon

Song

This song sounds like if a child made up a silly little tune and then an adult decided to go on Garage Band or whatever and make an entire backing track for it.

I've said before that Rainbow Live music is careful not to put in anything too weird and confusing, but this song has an exception to that. The voice-like thing (vocoder?) during the instrumental part is very weird! There are times where the song is building up a nice flow and actually sounding pretty okay, but sooner or later, it starts sounding silly again. Though it's actually only around 30% silly and 70% nice. (Not that silly can't be nice.)

I feel a very subtle jazz influence... the rhythm, vocals and instrumentals aren't jazz-like at all, but the melody itself reminds me of light jazz. I can't explain why. It's hard for me to explain anything about this song.

The instrumentals are the epitome of the early 2010s modern-girly sound. Everything about it – the rhythm, the theremin(?), the hand claps, the key with lots of sharps. I can't explain it, but it sort of reminds me of the soundtrack to the 2012 Littlest Pet Shop cartoon, or early 2010s Barbie. It's like, songs to make Pinterest boards to. Does that make sense? Am I making sense?

This song is just goofy!

Vocals

There are parts where Otoha's voice sounds very cute and whispery, but there are other parts where she just sounds like a child with a cold.

Like Bell's song, the vocal style is very consistent and I think a bit of variation could've made things more interesting. But I believe Otoha's voice actor said that she was instructed to really play up the character and voice her in a very anime-like way, so I can't blame her for just following instructions.

Lyrics

Like all Rainbow Live songs, the lyrics give many insights into the character. Otoha is someone who smiles through her pain until she just can't take it anymore and starts crying, but she's okay in the end. The lyrics perfectly reflect that.

Choreography

Most of the My Song dances embody their character's attribute (e.g. cool, pop, etc.), but nothing about this dance says "feminine". It's not bad, but, like the song, it's a little bit goofy.

Also, it makes no sense that the choreography includes a rock hand sign, since the song isn't rock-like in the slightest.

Visuals

The Bell Rose and Seventh Coord outfits are a bit more elegant than the song, but they're really pretty so it's fine. The other outfit (the turquoise and red one) didn't seem to suit the song at first since it seemed more country-ish. But actually, the design of that outfit was what was popular among girly franchises at the time, just like this type of music was somewhat popular at that time. So it works by association of trends, kind of.

Good points: Cute song that sounds different from most of Pretty Rhythm's music Bad points: I want to say that it's just kind of silly and odd, but those aren't necessarily bad things... I don't know how to explain the bad points in words.

Rating: 5/10 Personal rating: 5/10

#pretty series song reviews #vanity colon

[nuclear-smash]

I don't normally post my thoughts out, and I feel like not many will know what I'm talking about, so I'm going to apologize for that in advance before I get professionals beating me to pulp, just needed to let it out of my system and eventually try to figure out why I feel this way. (It's a long one, and it's about cartoons, babyy) Don't know how to explain, nor prove it, but I feel like a lot of animated cartoons nowadays that are officially put on streaming services feel stale. They lack life, they lack exaggerations, what makes characters believable. I don't have anything on me to prove it, I'm just cooking with my sleep deprived and caffeine chugged ass.

It all honestly started when I checked out Animaniacs for the first time (never watched the original either, so it didn't come from place of bias) and the way the characters try to exaggerate their movements -- it just didn't feel like it at all. Feels like they're lacking inbetweens, or maybe some extra motions, I don't know. The Cuphead cartoon also falls into this as well, and I understand how much replicating rubberhosey style would cost in time and money, but in the end it slips so far from what Cuphead originally was that the cartoon's just ever so slightly feels off to me. There's more examples somewhere hidden in my head, but these two I've had been thinking about the most.

I do acknowledge that so far in my examples I've only talked about a reboot of a 90s cartoon and an adaptation of a game based on 30s animations, however I do want to include that The Looney Tunes Show did whatever these cartoons would wish to achieve. The stylization, the acting, it feels so much closer to original Looney Tunes than whatever some newer cartoons do with their quick buck 'reboots'.

Also must include, I do know that there are amazing new shows out there with gorgeous animation, like Amphibia, Owl House, Steven Universe (anyone bringing up the off-model screenshots will get sent to he🏒🏒) and even Bluey. But guess Cartoon Network, Disney and the sheer power of Australia just carried these.

I don't know, I haven't done proper dig down on why I feel like some of the new cartoons are trying to be what they're not. And I know I probably ramble about nothing and someone's out there will see this post in the future and reply with 'wtf are you on about', but it's just simply something I couldn't get out of my head.

Going to also apologize for the way I say my thoughts out loud too, I probably sound like someone who has never animated before (<- solo, indie animator since early 2010s lmao), at the moment I really lack better words and research on what I'm trying to express. In the end the only thing I'm blaming for that is the industry and their greed.

#i really hyped this one up with the intro but i don't have time to write what i fully think atm #look forward to my next ramble if i ever figure out what exactly im on about #i do feel like im cooking but not sure what exactly #yuba talks

[giddlygoat]

heyo it's the autism swag onceler anon, i wanna elaborate my headcanon. his speech pattern is unusual, it's very overexaggerated, and he uses big words and phrases, such as gratifying (yeah ik it can be explained by the fact that he's a movie character, but none of the other characters speak like that) and unlike his family, he doesn't have a thick accent. he has an unusual gait and posture (although this too can be explained by him being a cartoon, again, no one else in the movie walks like that). he's socially awkward and he's better at making "friends" with the lorax, who is also eccentric and weird as hell and not human people. not to mention that his family's behavior can be explained by them being ableist, (ableism tw) them telling him he won't be able to amount to anything and be a failure was a pretty common mindset about autistic people amongst autism m*mmies between the late 90s and early 2010s whether they wanted to admit it or not. it's safe to assume that the family was poor, and accommodations, special education programs in school and such, are expensive and they were not happy about the fact that they had to spend money they didn't have on some child.

this was very long (i didn't mean to write a whole book in here sorry lol)

hope i explained my headcanon well enough and free to tag trigger warnings if you need

these are good points. i think it’s totally cash money if people headcanon him as autistic and i can definitely see why. i noticed especially in his tendency to get his mind fixed on something until he sees it through is a trait i see in lots of autistic people, my twin brother and myself included.

i do agree with you in that he’s definitely the bounciest/most interestingly animated character in the movie. everything about his acting is goofy and exaggerated but also feels very purposeful. it’s one of my favorite things about the movie and one of the main reasons i love his character so much. i feel like in that sense, among many others, the directors/animators did a spectacular job of setting him far apart from his family visually and personality-wise. i can think of several scenes off the top of my head that illustrate the stark difference in him and his kin that make me feel inclined to agree with you.

i don’t know if i headcanon him as autistic myself, but it’s definitely a valid interpretation and i find it very interesting. i also just love any autistic character that is portrayed as bouncy and loud/outgoing in personality because i am like that and i have a harder time identifying with the more quiet, monotone autistic characters in media (although they are just as wonderful!)

thanks for the ask, anon! it made my day :]

#onceler #the onceler #the lorax 2012 #asks #ableism #sorry forgot to tag the warning ough

[spongebob-connoisseur]

almost every cartoon youtube channel use to always rubs me the wrong way usually the way they review "modern" spongebob was going to cause the apocalypse and then rob you and then when hillenburg returned people started warming up and being a bit nicer to spunch bop but i really wonder is that they simply picked up spongebob again because of hillenburg and actually saw more modern spongebob episodes instead of cherrypicking the weaker eps hmm

in general about cartoon youtubers usually these days i feel like the early 2010s and some mid 2010s a lot of cartoon reviewers were a lot more negative for some reason but i am glad a lot more seem to have cool down and actually be a bit more positive and give real reviews and criticismm and i like the review more when they say things like "i personally didn't enjoy this but if you did i am glad you liked it!' instead of saying "this is bad because it's bad and the crew for these are horrible people and whoever actually likes these is cringe and that is fact"

You're very right! I've got more to add on this. I remember watching a lot of cartoon reviewers when I was younger. I stopped watching spongebob some time around 2011 because I just wasn't a fan of the episodes. So years later when these cartoon reviewers started popping up swearing they have an explaination as to why spongebob isn't good anymore, I believed it. I was a kid but still. There's a lot of holes in their arguments. They'd put out video after video of the same thing. Spongebob isn't good anymore because the creator left and the people working on the show now is bad. Only like the first 3 seasons otherwise you're a stupid kid.

That's dumb. Hillenburg didn't completely leave the show. He still had some work on the show. Reviewing episode plots and scripts. There's a lot of good moments post season 3. Some people straight up think some moments from post movie episodes are classic episodes and I've caught this often. The newer episodes have a lot of qualities older folks would enjoy. It isn't going to be exactly the same as the classics in tone and its understandable if you're not a fan but gosh these people have no respect.

In the early 2010s I feel like it was clickbait. It was something that can easily to get a microphone and talk about how modern spongebob is ruining the world to get a lot of likes. It appeals to the largest demographic and so why not? Its funny because most of the time they meant 6-8 and even those seasons aren't that bad. They have some weaker episodes for sure and that can be for a multitude of reasons not just "new writers bad". Even I'm wrong since I shat on those seasons before, only to find out recently from some rewatches. They aren't that bad. I mean when there's a bad episode like yeah its not great. But I think my main issue was I just didn't like the tone of the newer episodes. It was purely subjective and I couldn't see that for so long. It makes me laugh how blind I was. They're so creative too and do so much but I couldn't find myself liking them because I didn't like the chubby cheeks design on spongebob, I didn't like how slow some episodes are. Blah blah subjective stuff. And I couldn't see outside my bias. The Hot Shot is a genuinely good episode from season 8, Spongebob's Last Stand is one of my favorite SB episodes of all time, The Sponge Model is so weird, I can't help but laugh.

I'm getting off topic but I really wish it was as easy to say that they're changing now. I mean YouTube cartoon reviewers, the ones who especially shat on spongebob during the early 2010s started to turn around and enjoy the show post movie. I largely assumed it was tone change in the episodes. They started to become more spunky and goofy. Maybe that just appealed to them more. A new feel made them have a bit of change of heart. Especially watching season 9a and season 9b there's a big difference in feel.

But also like you said, they were probably only open to change because Hillenburg was now said to work on the show. Which he's always have been. Just now he's more involved than before. But since his passing, err some people have been pretty rude. I know even before people sent hate messages to the crew on spongebob. Largely fueled by those irresponsible youtube cartoon reviewers who acted like modern spongebob was the root of all evil. But now a days I feel like its too common. Probably because of all the misinformation around kamp koral, Hillenburg's passing, and also some people's dislike with the expressiveness post season 10. It's been fueling a lot of hate.

I get people not liking the expressiveness. Its not for everyone. But gosh it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. And I hate keep running into the amount of hate people flooded the crew with. I hate even more whrn the movie came out, people acted like it was ruining the integrity of spongebob even though Hillenburg worked on it and pitched what is the main plot of the movie. And actually getting in arguments because people think I was a "movie defender" for stating the facts. They all acted shocked when they found out Hillenburg approved of the movie and Kamp Koral when Vincent Waller officially came out and said it. But for a long time, the facts were there and readily available. I admit I was wrong before since I also fell for the misinformation but even after a while, I just didn't want to fuel the hate because it drove people to do crazy shit.

Its also interesting seeing people's biases. I remember seeing a review where someone was review of sponge out of water and the person's review is essentially "I think its bad and if you like it then you should feel bad about it" someone needs to knock their ego down a bit. They were right earlier in their video that they didn't like it and didn't need to explain to people why they didn't like it. And that's right and I wish more of the internet would accept they don't need an elaborate reason to dislike something. But gosh that was a bad take.

And its funnier when the 3rd movie came out, they made a video acting like the film was hell on earth and remarked that the 2nd movie at least has some qualities and is enjoyable. Like before they weren't telling people they should feel bad for enjoying the 2nd movie.

Or how seasons 4-8 was considered modern spongebob. People shat all over it. Then when seasons 9-12 came out. They act like 4-8 is apart of the classics. Like season 8 is the last good season. It kinda feels like a joke. Or maybe they finally got over their blind hatred for those seasons and now found something new to hate because they can't let go that the classics era is long gone. I remember watching a review where some guy was just acting like seasons 9-12 is hell and was like "look how they massacred my boi" mans really was just drawn with an interesting facial expression. Calm down. And then he later admitted he never watched the modern seasons because he doesn't have the strength. He was just going off a random clip.

It gets frustrating. Tumblr here is very tame but on twitter or wherever else, some people really don't know how to behave and do research for themselves. They act like Hillenburg is some kind of god who will save the show and while shitting on the exact episodes he worked on. His name is literally in the credits before each episode.

They're like "oh I would fire all the current writers and hire the ones who worked on the classic episodes" the ones who worked on the classic episodes are working on the show now. What are you going to do? Fire them and hire them back on??

This turned into a long rant but uhh I just had a lot to share. It just gets on my nerves since the patrick show coming up adds more hate to deal with. I haven't the energy. If you have a problem with Nickelodeon's corporate decisions then deal with the executives themselves ya kno? But it wouldn't matter because people are really biased. Especially with the lasting effects of those early 2010s cartoon reviewers.

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