#Wolf 359 spoilers

[lesbian-jack-barnabas]

”kill them with kindness” WRONG! harpoon

#wolf 359 #wolf 359 spoilers #i suppose? #is this anything

[theonceandfuturefool]

daniel jacobi in the wolf 359 finale is in the fucking scenario of all time. imagine. imagine that, after a tense hostage situation, you get shot in the leg, even though you did nothing to deserve it. this is a non-issue, of course, because thankfully your evil science overlords brought an automated surgery system with them. leg gets patched up. you take none of their meds. eventually your team figures out that they probably popped a tracker in your open wound while their spaceship was playing operation™️ so, either by your own volition or someone else’s suggestion, you end up with the job of distracting the super dangerous dude who basically specializes in murdering other super dangerous dudes while everyone else handles the rest of the station. you decide to do this by locking yourself in a room with him. you probably have a little hand-to-hand combat training, but making shit blow up isn’t necessarily an intimate activity. you are only moderately dangerous. also, you still have a bullet wound. also, you’re a bit of an asshole. and for some reason you brought confetti into space.

so you get the absolute shit beat out of you for probably the better part of the day while everyone else does their part before the bomb you planted earlier finally joins the party and blows up the room you’re in. thankfully, you’re an expert, so you get out of the way in time to not end up in bits and exit this room probably feeling pretty good about how the plan turned out. only to join the rest of the crew to find that your captain is asleep, your commander is bleeding out in a pool of her own blood, your comms officer has no memory of what the hell he’s even doing here, the AI in charge of the station is rebooting, there are 11 minutes before you all end up freefalling into the star you’re orbiting, and someone fucking harpooned your (ex) boss. so you, your bullet wound, and your various injuries from several hours of losing at physical combat and surviving a bomb exploding gather everyone up into the one functioning ship you have left and take off into space. and somehow you still had the most normal day out of everyone else there

#wolf 359 #w359 #daniel jacobi #wolf 359 spoilers #I cannot express how much I love him. daniel jacobi the man that you are

[hephaestuscrew]

Renée Minkowski loves Organised Fun, whereas Doug Eiffel thinks Organisation and Fun are inherently incompatible. Eiffel can get hours of enjoyment out of discussing 'What are your Top Five ____?' questions with Hera, but if you asked him the same questions and told him it was a team icebreaker activity, he'd jump out of a window. In contrast, the best way to get Minkowski to engage with pointless questions like those would be to include the discussion on a precisely timetabled schedule of activities. I don't think Eiffel would have voluntarily got involved with Funzo because he would have taken one look at the size of the instruction booklet and decided that maybe he did think they should follow Pryce and Carter Tip 792 after all. I think Minkowski sees a robust instruction booklet on a game as a sign that she's in for a good time. Minkowski believes any day of leisure is improved by an itinerary. Eiffel can't even contemplate following a schedule in his work hours, let alone his downtime.

#Wolf 359 #w359 #Renée Minkowski #Doug Eiffel #They have a sitcom-esque personality clash #and they are also best friends who get separation anxiety if they are apart too long #and want to live their lives together #These things are not contradictory in this case #There are so many exciting ways they can annoy each other when there are no potentially fatal catastrophes to deal with #I think they should go on weekend trips together and bicker endlessly #I think Minkowski should make a ring binder of fun activities #and I think Eiffel should tease her about it #I think Eiffel should persuade Minkowski to do something spontaneously that she ends up really enjoying #and I think Eiffel should admit that maybe Minkowski's schedules are somewhat handy sometimes #the empty man posteth #Eiffel & Minkowski #w359 spoilers #wolf 359 spoilers

[eva-birdman-art]

Going back home, with only ghosts to keep you company

#i cant believe i forgot to post this one #its been three months #but yeah jacobi angst #the thought that he just survived but lost the two people closest to him😭😭😭 yeah #wolf 359 #wolf359 #w359 #daniel jacobi #warren kepler #alana maxwell #wolf 359 spoilers #my art

[spacerockband]

i'm sorry i don't know you like that

#art tag #comma ommitted on purpose #w359 #wolf 359 #wolf 359 spoilers #w359 spoilers #doug eiffel #hera wolf 359 #eiffera #digital art #digital painting #fan art #w359 fanart

[dalesbianfoppishdandy]

maxwell should have gotten a chance to be genuinely scary. like she gets some good "girl what us wrong with you moments" but her job is betraying and hurting people. you just know she loves to monologue over intercoms. if jacobi died instead of her Kepler would end up in a saw trap

#alana maxwell #i love you alive girl #w359 #maxwell w359 #si 5 #wolf 359 spoilers

[captainhark]

I think about Minkowski shooting that spider on the daily

#wolf 359 #renee minkowski #doug eiffel #alexander hilbert #wolf 359 spoilers

[hyperfixssession]

NOOOO THEY KILLED THE PLANT MONSTER?!?!!? KEPLER YOU SADISTIC FUCK

#I still love you Jacobi but that was cold #wolf 359 episode 32 #wolf 359 spoilers #wolf 359 #completely fucking forgot this from my original listen

[everythingitcouldbe]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a module. A module on the other side of the star. A module with my clone. And my clone makes me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once.

#wolf 359 spoilers #daniel jacobi #doug eiffel #wolf 359 #alexander hilbert #isabel lovelace #renee minkowski #warren kepler

[alfvenwave]

#kepchel #my art #wolf 359 #warren kepler #rachel young #tw strangulation #let me know if this needs to be tagged as anything else!!! #wolf 359 spoilers #w359 spoilers #w359 #wolf 359 fanart

[tyrramint]

Oh my god, okay, I just finished Wolf 359 and now looking back on it, I NOW REALIZE that all the out of context posts I saw that were like ‘headcanon that when Eiffel and Minkowski get back to Earth they watch Star Wars together’ WERE NOT because they were picturing Eiffel roping Minkowski into watching something he loves with him but for almost the exact opposite reason 😭😭😭

I am DEAD

#so unwell #gonna need a minute #wolf 359 #wolf 359 spoilers

[l0ngc0unt]

forever thinking about this moment. Minkowski definitely found a photo of Eiffel and his daughter. And the fact that both Lovelace and Minkowski talk about never having seen Eiffel that happy before. ☹️☹️

#wolf 359 spoilers #wolf 359 podcast #wolf 359 #doug eiffel #renee minkowski #isabel lovelace

[theonceandfuturefool]

I think something that is so funny about the wolf 359 finale episodes is how much of a non-issue everything becomes. your crew gets their minds restrained so they do whatever they’re told? just use some alien blood to short that shit out. you get shot in the leg? ship has an automated surgeon. your commander tries to hurl you back to earth solo without your consent and the ship will only respond to her? say the order with enough conviction and turn that baby back around. you need that one guy to get the information you want, but he got shot off into space? good news, doug eiffel fastball special. bomb goes off? jump out of the way. evil tech guy obsessed with progress can somehow catch bullets? yeah, okay, sure. harpoon.

#wolf 359 #w359 #wolf 359 spoilers #sorry to everyone who has no idea what I’m talking about but I finished this podcast yesterday and I can’t be normal about it

[hephaestuscrew]

I have such emotional thoughts about Ep40 Limbo and Minkowski telling Eiffel "I'm sorry, okay? I didn't want it to matter. I was trying to make it not matter." It's such an insane thing to say about learning without any context or detail that your friend and crew member was convicted of kidnapping and child endangerment.

It's one thing to learn that someone did something awful and not to care because you don't care about them or their morals (the SI-5 approach). It's another thing to learn that someone did something awful and not to care because you can empathise with them and it's who they are now that matters (the Hera and Lovelace approach). And it's an entirely different thing to learn that someone did something awful and to want desperately not to care but to be unable to stop yourself from caring.

When there was no specificity to Eiffel's tragic backstory, Minkowski successfully made it not matter. Back in Ep15 What's Up Doc?, when Hilbert was hinting at Eiffel's secret that he wouldn't want Minkowski to know about, she trusted him with no "hesitance or doubt". In principle, on an abstract intellectual level, his past doesn't matter to her. But as soon as she has some of the specifics, her ability to trust him without question is shaken, because that trust isn't just about the abstract intellectual level. It's emotional too.

Eiffel really matters to Minkowski, so of course she doesn't want what she learned about his past to change that. But part of what matters to Minkowski about Eiffel is that she trusts him, that she believes that he does the morally right thing when it counts, and that he's the kind of person she thinks he is. The particular way in which he matters to her, when combined with her personality and her values, means that the bad things he's done in the past have to matter to her too. Because the way in which he matters to her is tied up in her sense of him as an ultimately moral person, the spokesperson of Team What's Wrong With Handcuffs.

In typical Minkowski fashion, she wants to make herself not care about it through sheer stubborn power of will. Maybe if she doesn't speak to him, she can pretend she doesn't know. Maybe if she pretends she doesn't know, she won't think about it. Maybe if she doesn't think about it, it won't matter to her. Maybe if it doesn't matter to her, then she can rebuild her idea of him as a good person on her own and she won't ever have to talk to him about it. But three months roll by, and it still matters to her. It still matters to her, and she still wants it not to.

#w359 #wolf 359 #doug eiffel #renee minkowski #renée minkowski #She was never going to be able to make it not matter without having a conversation with him about it #but it's not like things are immediately fixed after that conversation either #And in fact the resolution isn't really about making it not matter #It's about realising that her trust in Eiffel and the strength of their friendship matters more #I like that when they reconcile Eiffel says that those things from his past *are her business* #It's like an acknowledgement of their closeness #but perhaps an attempt to absolve Minkowski from the fact that she cared about knowing those things #I think I've kinda talked about some of this stuff before but not in relation to this specific line #And I might say more another time if I'm honest #w359 spoilers #wolf 359 spoilers #the empty man posteth #Eiffel & Minkowski

[glasses-rex]

updates from the Wolf 359 relisten

okay so I’m midway through Time To Kill right now (meaning I’ve just had Memoria, one of the best single episodes of a podcast ever) and uh:

You ever feel so incredibly normal and fine about the fact that they introduce you to the messed-up brain upload machine in the secret room in engineering in Happy Endings, and then literally THREE EPISODES LATER we get a whole episode about how memories make us who we are? (You ever think about the foreshadowing implications of that? Because you know I am)

Anyway I keep thinking about Hilbert’s approach to his memories, the way he calls the machine an “elegant solution”, because even if Cutter intends to leave him in space, if his work lives on that’s all he wants. The fact that the episodes are so close together surely means that you’re intended to reinterpret this in view of the ideas explored in Memoria. If Hilbert’s brain, his work, makes him who he is, then by saving that, he’s saving the only bit of himself that matters. Hera was willing to die before she let Maxwell change any part of herself, if it meant that she could stay her. And then there’s the Other Thing looming at the end of the final season (although I can’t talk about that in any great detail because it’s been four years since I listened to the episode). But those three episodes form a trifecta of different explorations of one theme. To what extent are our memories us? And when faced with a choice to save your body, or your memories, which do you pick? Which is you?

man I love this show.

#Wolf 359 #w359 #wolf 359 memoria #Wolf 359 Happy Endings #Alexander Hilbert #wolf 359 hera #Wolf 359 spoilers #Spoilers

[herawell]

Actual footage of Jacobi in season four

#wolf 359 #daniel jacobi #warren kepler #renee minkowski #wolf 359 spoilers #alia talks #I mean it’s literally what happens lmaoooooo #I mean they’re not *best friends* #but ykwim