#also the season 7 & season 8 scripts of GoT mentioning that Tyrion was (romantically) in love with Dany

[daenerys-daario]

hello im the anon from dany and tyrion ask (my faves hehe) and to be honest dany/tyrion intrigues me and there needs to be more content for the pairing 👀 like ik ppl say it’s a crackship but like tyrion is 1001% gonna form a bond with her before she even meets jon and im soooo excited for them to finally meet 😭💕

Hi Anon!

Welcome to rarepair-hell !!

Yes, I agree, there needs to be more content for Dany and Tyrion. (*tries to pretend that I hadn't promised more Danyrion content to many of my mutuals without delivering it*)

While I agree that Dany/Tyrion is not canon, I would not call it crack!ship though. It is not yet fully realised, but it's on its way there.

Q: Since Tyrion is going to the Free Cities (and one of Varys's contacts there likely being Magister Illyrio), is it a possibility that he might hear of and hook up with Dany and her dragons (he's fascinated by dragons, if I remember well)? GRRM: It's possible. [source]

Btw, if you need some push to enter into this ship here's my discussion with outerds on how Dany and Tyrion suit each other well, and you can find my meta on Dany and her White Lion here.

You should definitely check out this post by Bruno showcasing the parallels in personality between Dany & Tyrion; as well as this gifset that portrays the narrative parallels between them. And you can go through the tag #danyrion on my blog for any content between Dany/Tyrion.

#answered #anon #anonymous #danyrion #also.. grrm saying he didnt let tyrion and dany meet in ADWD because he wanted to build the anticipation #also the season 7 & season 8 scripts of GoT mentioning that Tyrion was (romantically) in love with Dany #also.. just the two dragon-dreaming; justice-delivering; ruling-failing-cities-&-vilified-for-it; unlikely-heir uniting would be epic

[lawonderlandwriter]

Cersei, Danny, Tyrion, Jon, and Incorrect Prophecies

Okay this post is all about sex and babies, getting that out of the way right now. Let’s start at the beginning with Cersei.

A lot of people think this season that Cersei saying she was pregnant to Jamie was a lie to manipulate him. In the original script spoilers, this would be proven false because there was to be a scene where Cersei wakes up in a bed of blood and screams, implying that she would have miscarried. BUT, VERY IMPORTANT, we did NOT get this scene. So not seeing Cersei miscarry could mean one of two things: 1) she was never pregnant and just used this to manipulate Jamie and later, in the season finale, trick and manipulate Tyrion. OR 2) Cersei is in fact pregnant and STAYS pregnant in season 8, possibly carrying the child to term. More on this in a minute.

Now, a lot of people don’t believe Cersei is pregnant because of the prophecy from Maggie the Frog about having three children who would all die before her. However, this prophecy is kind of debunked already in season 1 and book 1, but in different ways. In the show, Cersei goes to Catelyn Stark after Bran’s fall and has a really touching moment with her (yes she told Jamie to push him but I still love this scene anyway - scene is NOT in the book). In the scene she tells Catelyn that she had a baby who died AFTER his birth because of a fever, the baby had black hair, implying he was Robert’s true born son, not Jamie’s. In the books, it’s a little different. In the books when Ned confronts Cersei about her relationship with Jamie and the children, she tells him that Robert got her pregnant once but that she was “cleansed” i.e. had an abortion. Now, this could kind of muddle things. Some might argue that because the child was never born, it doesn’t count. But I’m skeptical here. Prophecies in the Ice and Fire universe are very sketch. 

My thoughts? I believe Cersei actually is pregnant again by Jamie in season 7. My prediction is that, possibly she’ll actually carry the child to term and it will be a dwarf like Tyrion. She will hate it and try to kill her new born baby and this is when Jamie will really see her for what she is, evil, and end up killing her, fulfilling the Valonqar bit of the prophecy. Because let’s face it, prophecy or not, Jamie will end up being the one to kill Cersei. He has to. Maybe he takes the baby back up to the north or the fight has already reached the south. He’ll die in battle and Brienne will be there holding him as he dies (he once said he wanted to die in the arms of the woman he loves), maybe she’ll live, maybe she’ll die also. But either way, I think Tyrion would be the one to raise the child as he always loved his niece and nephews (well, not Joffery, but Tommen for sure he loved). Okay all of that is SEVERE speculation but I would really like to see that happen. And it would make a lot of sense. Jamie and Cersei’s deaths. Another dwarf baby like Tyrion but one that would actually have a great upbringing because Tyrion would be the best dad/uncle. And it would be kind of neat if (if all this were to happen), Tyrion and Sansa would resume their marriage and be happy together. But that’s just me.

Now, moving on to last night’s episode concerning Tyrion and his creeping outside Dany’s cabin while her and Jon have sex.

So, lots of people think that Tyrion is jealous because he is in love with Dany. The way he looks so worried is in that scene coupled with a few other scenes from this and previous seasons - him trying to talk her into not going to rescue Jon and co beyond the wall, him giving that little defeated look when she says “Jon Snow is too little for me” like he just knew that she’d never see him romantically, him talking her into leaving Daario behind in 6x10 with the logic that she’d make alliances by marriage once returning to Westeros BUT the fact that he NEVER suggests it though Jon Snow is plenty eligible and would be plenty useful as an ally. Yeah, it COULD explain things. And of course, the BTS video suggests it. But I really think otherwise.

In episode 7, we have the very interesting scene between Tyrion and Cersei where he figures out she’s pregnant (again, maybe she’s playing him and Jamie but Tyrion still BELIEVES she’s pregnant). And in the episode before, he and Dany have the conversation about the line of succession where it comes up that Dany believes she can’t have children. Now, that scene between the two of them is very interesting as well. He says “You SAY you can’t have children.” To me at the time, and now more so, it makes me think he’s not sure that’s exactly the case. Like he doesn’t entirely believe her when she says she can’t have children. Jon echoes this later in 7x7 when he tells Dany the witch who told her she was barren might not be a reliable source for information. 

So what could it all mean? Well, Tyrion definitely has babies on the mind in these last few episodes. And possibly, with the revelation that Cersei is pregnant, Tyrion believes Jon might get Dany pregnant. Now, why would this upset him? That’s the big question. It could go back to the jealousy thing and being in love with Dany, sure. But more, I think Tyrion is thinking about the big picture so far as the fight for Westeros, not just the fight in the north. Tyrion KNOWS how ruthless Cersei is especially when it comes to protecting her children. He mentions its one of her only good characteristics, her love for her children. So, with the prospect of Dany getting knocked up at such an inconvenient time, with Cersei pregnant as well, I truly think Tyrion is just worried for her. Why? Because if Dany becomes pregnant, especially around the time Cersei is as well, it makes her INCREDIBLY vulnerable. If Dany became pregnant, especially by Jon Snow who has the allegiance of the entire north behind him, it makes her even more of a threat to Cersei. The northern lords will then WANT to fight for Dany in the war for the crown because she’s carrying one of their own. Yes, Jon’s pledged to her himself but right now that’s kind of shaky because he doesn’t know if the north will follow him in that. 

Dany is already distracted at the moment with the fight for the north and the living, making her vulnerable to Cersei, especially when Cersei has lied to them about helping. A pregnant Dany would be even more distracted and Tyrion knows this. So with all this talk of pregnancy and babies, I think the reason WHY Tyrion was creeping and looking concerned at Jon and Dany having sex wasn’t because of jealousy. It was simply because he knows exactly what would happen if Dany by chance got pregnant (which let’s face it, she will). Cersei could try to kidnap Dany or kill her - she’d have even more reason to if Dany’s pregnant. So yeah, Tyrion’s not liking this. A Targaryen heir eventually wouldn't be a bad thing, but not before they beat Cersei. 

Now on to Jon and Dany and why Jon’s dick and sperm aren't magical cures to Dany’s supposed infertility. Most of Dany’s infertility speculation surrounds the prophecy or whatever (don’t really think you can call if a prophecy because she wasn’t predicting the future), about Khal Drogo returning to the way he was after the blood magic ritual in which she tells Dany, he’ll be as he was when the seas run dry, mountains blow in the wind like leaves and your womb quickens and you bare a living child. She never became pregnant with Daario (there’s an implied miscarriage or menstrual cycle starting again in the books but I don’t think that’s important here), so Dany automatically assumes it means she can’t have children. Now, there could be lots of reasons she and Daario never had a kid. Maybe he was unable to have children, maybe they just didn’t have sex at the right times of the month, etc. So one guy doesn’t prove anything. 

Also, the prophecy (or speech, threat, whatever) wasn’t really about Dany at all. It was about Drogo. Drogo was a vegetable and Mirri Maz Durr said all these things meaning they were the conditions under which he’d be himself again. BUT, Drogo is dead. Dany smothered him. He’s not coming back under any conditions now, no matter how impossible. It’s odd actually. Mirri mentions all these things that could never happen (maybe metaphorically but not really) and then the thing about Dany. Which isn’t an impossible thing. She was already pregnant. Just because her son was a stillborn doesn’t make her infertile. Mirri is also just a healer. She knew all this blood magic and stuff but she wasn’t a seer or prophet. Not like Melisandre seeing visions in the flames or Bran’s sight or even Maggy the frog. So I think her words need to be taken with a grain of salt. In fact, Melisandre says that prophecies are tricky and it’s hard to know their true meaning. 

So yeah, that’s just my two cents. Let me know if you guys agree or have other theories. 

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