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#and autistic . seriously him getting upset bc You’re Not Doing It Right!!!!!!! is very autism of him
lunar-soren · 1 year
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lorenz my darling boy you are so weird and so autistic
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phcking-detective · 4 years
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Referring to the last ask, so Nines has OCD? Or at least something similar to that? What does Gavin think about it, how does he help Nines?
I haven’t written Nines as having OCD in my main fic because it’s not a disorder I have or that has many common overlap symptoms (the way ADD so commonly overlaps or is co-morbid with autism that I feel comfortable writing that perspective), and therefore I’m also not certain how it would translate into him being an android
with him being autistic, I as an autistic person, can imagine Me But Robot Though, but I’m not sure I could believably write that perspective for something I don’t have. I also write all of his more obsessive tendencies as being autistic symptoms based on my own need for consistency and control over my life due to how I was abused as a child for being autistic, and as I understand it, OCD is instead born of compulsions and intrusive thoughts of bad things happening if the compulsions are not accommodated, which isn’t what I experience
I do think an OCD Nines would make a lot of sense though and I fully support anyone who wants to write it that way! I can’t remember what ask you’re referring to, but I think I have a vague recollection of saying something about a human Nines with OCD? as sort of a hypothetical AU, not something I intend to write personally. because again, I think that makes a great headcanon and would make complete sense for his character, so I’ve probably said something about it at some point, I just don’t think I can pull off writing it myself
as for the Nines and Gavin in my own series, I plan on having some scenes where Gavin is usually really great about thinking what Nines needs and how he would react to situations, with one instance or two of getting too caught up in his own head and feelings, and expecting Nines to react like one of his exes or trying to treat Nines the way he (Gavin) would want to be treated, rather than giving Nines what Nines-as-a-person actually wants and needs, then realizing that wasn’t helpful and apologizing
the biggest help Gavin provides is just listening to Nines and taking his needs seriously, even when they run directly opposite to what Gavin would want or need in that situation. like, Gavin is very very touch-starved and needy, so he automatically reacts to Nines being upset or needing reassurance by thinking he should touch Nines or hug him, but then has to stop that impulse and think “no that’s what I would want--what does NINES want”
so he acts as kind of Nines’s human guard dog, bc the other humans are honestly kind of shit at that. Tina, Chris, Hank, they’re all trying to be nice to Nines, but they forget more often that he doesn’t want hugs or shoulder pats or even a handshake if it’s unexpected. he doesn’t like or know how to make small talk, and he’s still very wary of jokes after the hazing he endured when he first started working at the DPD, so Gavin basically orbits around him making sure no one touches him and leaves him alone when he needs his space
in turn, Nines doesn’t mind all of his yelling and blustering because that means nothing to him, and it makes all of the other humans go away. especially Connor, who thinks he knows The Right Way To Deviate and Nines is Doing It Wrong, so Connor is really bad about respecting his boundaries because he’s absolutely convinced that he’s just being nice to his brother who is mean for No Reason, and Gavin shuts that shit down hard
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