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memezeira-fbi · 4 months
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I miss making theories about Camren on my old Instagram account, it was every outbreak about theories that made sense. Besides, he gathered all the possible information he had about Camren and put it all together for everyone to see and remember that it was real. It was all part of the industry's plan
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ragzonacamrencruise · 7 months
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I listened to all of the camren's songs and my head is FILLED to the brim with fresh theories and I can't wait to share em all with you guys!!
Camren shippers!!! Where're ya at bishes?!?!?!
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Theories 5h (10 years) // DSYLM (ft @emisonme and @/Sandradiazcast3)
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I will start by saying that these are theories and that they are not mine, but I have permission to share them. This will be divided into three theories where the last one has more Camren in it.
Filtered audio theory (@emisonme)
This theory arose from a question that I asked my friend Em about the 5H anniversary and the strange message of Ally for the anniversary. You have to read it to understand it.
I can't post the link to the post as usual but it works so click it, folks!
In summary, Em thinks that Lauren's filtered audio where she says they are slaves, Ally is present. Lauren speaks directly to Ally and if you notice, she doesn't hear as desperate as Lauren.
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Another coincidence is another filtering video this time of a Camren conversation where curiously once again Ally's present, but I have never believed a lot in that because I read that it could be an edit, but I don't know. The tenth anniversary of 5h was very surprising for the Fandom. Not only because Lauren was the first to post, Camila did it the next day and it was as intense as Lauren's, but Ally? She only posted about herself without mentioning anyone else. Curious? I think so. Since then, we have thought that perhaps the conflict was never from Camila against the girls, but that Ally had a lot to do there, because … What do we really know about Ally apart from what they always showed us about her? I do not know if the filtered audio is a coincidence and or as my friend EM says, Ally was manipulated to give the bastards just what they wanted to punish Lauren because she was making a lot of war to them and they have never wanted artists who they cannot manipulate.
DSYLM theory (@sandradiazcast3)
This theory was something that my friend Sandra thought about the Don't Say You Love Me MV
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In this theory she mentions that in the mv of the song when NDL comes out through the door they do it looking in different directions. Normani looks towards the side; Dinah looks back and Lauren looks directly at the camera. But Ally doesn't look anywhere except forward and is the last one that comes out.
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The funny thing about this is that while they are leaving Ally is the one that is left behind and an exit scene is interspersed with that of Ally that is the last to leave
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What really attracts my attention is that the three minors compared to Ally go together and Ally is the last to leave, but the first one left Sony to go to the competition. Did the other girls know she would do it? I don't know, but I think it's an important detail In addition to the door almost completely closed when Ally leaves, but then opens halfway. I've always read that means a 5h comeback after hiatus, but who would return? None wants that and less Ally and Lauren because they are out of Sony.
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I cannot really confirm if Ally could have been the one who may have betrayed Lauren, or if there was a betrayal there. All I know is that I love Ally's music and voice, but something in her never finished fitting me. I never trusted her, or the saint image that they wanted to give her inside the band and that did not fit her either. Ally was the one who wrote a book about her experience in the band. Where are the other four books and the versions of the other girls? Why was she who always excited the Harmonizer to a reunion even through her parents and when the anniversary arrived, was Ally the only one who left the girls behind? She did it just because she no longer had a direct bond with Sony? I don't think so, they all have the same base contract.
I have many questions and this video does not give us the answers, but some details and especially because they also say that DSYLM is the answer to IHQ from Camila. I could say much more Ally because although I never liked her, I can't blame her. She was the older in the band and she had to take responsibilities that did not even correspond to her, as being the chaperone of the Camren girls. And the worst, being an adult in a group with four teen girls. Nobody had the blame BUT THOSE BASTARDS.
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This performance is emotional because Dinah cries and Lauren literally shouts her part of the song. Ally hugs Lauren. If the theory of betrayal is true, we will never know if Lauren already knew it, because I have seen Lauren talking about betrayal long after all this.
And … she was the bride … The third theory that is mine is also from DSYLM and also of Expectations, but I will not write it today. Don't ask me when, I want to leave you with intrigue. I do not hope you believe in this, but I want you to think, folks. A lot.
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godlygreta · 3 months
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god is fair | j. t. kiszka
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title | god is fair
word count | 7.7k
warnings | swearing, mentions of alcohol - nothing too terrible... yet ;)
author's note | i've had this in the chamber for some time now, i just lost the inspo to write, which is why i haven't in a long time. this isn't a promise that i'll post more fics as they come to me, seeing as i'm a senior in college who has a fuck ton of other things to do. there will be a part 2 to this fic, but i couldn't tell you when it's coming :)
also, very much so listening to god is fair, sexy nasty by mac miller while writing this & starting the next part, so take that as you will ;)
unedited as hell so pls excuse any mistakes !
You always had this rivalry since the beginning of freshman year. This guy, Jake, would never show up to any of the classes the two of you had together, but always got the highest grades on every single goddamn exam that your Intro to Bio professor gave out. It infuriated you.
You figured that in the spring semester, you would be freed from the disappearing boy, but you weren’t. While the teacher called roll, everyone shouted out here. She landed upon his name, calling out to the class and looking through the rows of students. He had been there for orientation, sitting in one of the middle rows, slouched in his seat.
You planned to confront him the next day you had class together, on Wednesday, but Jake was nowhere to be found. Your roommate and your friends had heard your exhaustive theories as to why he was never in class. “Babe, you sound insane. Just let it go.”
But you couldn’t.
Competition lived deep within your roots, having an entire competition with the second top student in your graduating class in high school. Though the rage held between each other was never taken far outside of the academic realm, the two of you never thought to be friends and encourage one another. Thankfully, the two of you resolved the competition when the two of you realized you would be going into two very separate fields of study in college. 
Camren, who knew she was going to be a chemist from the time she first learned about chemistry, had told you she loved the competition – made it fun and kept things interesting. And there you were, going to school for Pre-Med with the same feeling. The two of you kept in contact, updating each other on the strive for greatness in college as well.
You kept a close relationship with a lot of your teachers, making sure to get on their good side before classes had really begun. You emailed most of them, especially your Anatomy and Physiology professor, Dr. Sahnya Heinz.
She was incredibly skilled in her field, leaving the active medical field to teach the new and future minds of medicine. It was a cliche line she delivered on the first day, but it encouraged that familiar competitive fire that dwelled within you.
You don’t quite remember how you came to figure out that Jake was ahead of you, but you had found out somehow from your professor, although it was an accident.
It made everything in you burn with anger and frustration. Anytime someone mentioned him, or mentioned the fact that you were second, you clenched your jaw and your teeth gritted together. Your friends had an inside joke that you were only mad because you had a huge crush on him.
“I barely even know what he looks like, Mel! I fucking hate the guy. Don’t start shit.” You’d plead, beer can in your hand in the lounge of some fraternity floor.
Over the next few semesters, you kept trying your hardest, spending most of your free time in the library, reading everything that you could to prepare for every exam. You wrote papers early, having them done at least three weeks in advance. As soon as you would be told about a new one, you’d immediately start finding sources.
You sauntered around campus, thinking that you would be way ahead of him. He still never showed up to any classes, aside from orientation and exam periods. You’d stare at him for a few moments while the teacher passed out the exam, looking over his face as much as you could.
His long hair would obscure your vision on occasion, making it hard to catch any of his features at all. From what you could see though, he had nice, full lips. His nose was something you could have stared at the entire exam period.
You watched him as he licked his lips, whispering a thank you to Heinz before grabbing his pencil from his desk and getting to work. You looked away from him as soon as Heinz put your exam on your desk, offering her a small smile and a quick thank you before getting to work.
It was almost spring break, meaning some of your assignments had been slowing, some of them had been increasing. A group of your friends from different majors told you about one of the lounge parties a fraternity on campus was throwing. “Sigma Tau has the worst lounge parties, Tamia. You know this.”
“They’re joining forces with the Delta’s though, so it’ll be better than normal! You have to come, you’ve always got your nose in a book. You haven’t drank with us in so long, I forget what you’re like when you’re drunk.”
“I don’t know… I need to work on this Midterm paper I have in Kainz’s class, it’s due next week.”
“Babe, it’s been done for weeks! You just keep editing it trying to find mistakes and there are none! I’ve literally read it five times. Please, go out with us, just tonight?”
You looked between Tamia and Mel, knowing in the end you would give into them anyways. “Ugh, fine! Tonight, and tonight only, just this once. If I don’t like it, though, I’m leaving and going to bed early.”
“You’ll have so much fun, I swear!” Mel and Tamia looked between each other, sharing expressions of excitement and happiness on their faces. You rolled your eyes, standing up from your chair.
You let them raid your closet, trying to throw something together quickly. Most of the time, Tamia and Mel never obeyed the dress code for the lounge parties, hating the idea of giving into the male gaze of the fraternity brothers. Tonight, however, was a bit different. The theme was Western, meaning it was cowboy hats and very tiny shorts.
You looked over the outfit that laid out in front of you, straw cowboy hat that Tamia had bought from Amazon (one for each of you), a pair of short shorts that may or may not show your ass a bit, and a red bandana top that Mel let you borrow last semester that you forgot to return. “I don’t know about this. I don’t even have the right shoes.”
“You forget we wear the same size, bitch, you’re going. No backing out.” They joked, tossing you a pair of white boots. “Just put that shit on while we heat up the curling iron, okay?”
“Fine, fine, okay.” You peel off your shirt, throwing on the one they picked out. Next to go were your pajama pants, which were replaced by the shorts. You kept the same socks on, knowing that nobody would see them anyways with the boots going up to the middle of your calf muscle. “I look fucking ridiculous.”
“You look fucking hot, now sit down while we do your hair and makeup,” Mel spoke, pulling out your desk chair while Tamia smiled wickedly with the curling wand in hand. You were nervous, looking at the both of them, but the good kind that settled under your skin and was left hidden behind the smallest smile.
You talked about upcoming exams with them while they did your hair and makeup, much to their dismay. They attempted to fill you in on the various drama situations going on around campus while you had been heavily plugged into your textbooks. You gasped often, finding shock and awe in some of the things they had been telling you about classmates.
They spoke about Jake, letting it slip that he had been planning on attending the party, joined at the hip with one of the girls he had been rumored to have been dating. One of the many. “Ugh, he just sounds like a douche. Gives me even more reason to hate him.”
“We’re not feeding into your delusion that he’s some douchebag. Dropping it.” Tamia spoke, putting her hands up in a surrender. Mel laughed, pulling away from you with an eyeliner pen in hand. “Maybe we’ll get you drunk enough to admit you like him.”
“I don’t like him, and I thought we were dropping the topic.” You looked at Tamia in the mirror, watching her face deadpan as she looked back at you.
“I have something hot in my hands, don’t be rude to me.” The three of you laughed, getting back into the rhythm of getting ready. You let them do their thing to you, curling the last bit of your hair and putting the finishing touches of highlighter on your brow bone.
You looked at yourself in the mirror, marveling at the job they did. You thanked them for getting you all dolled up, watching them change into their outfits. It was mostly just them taking off the sweats they were wearing, throwing them over the back of your desk chair. You took a few pictures with them in your mirror before finally deciding to head out.
The party had started a half an hour ago, walking into the party late like most people did. The three of you got in easily with matching the dress code, immediately looking for the drinks table. The boys in charge handed the three of you a free shot of anything you wanted. Mel chose for you, starting the night out roughly with a shot of Svedka.
You grabbed a Sprite from one of the boys in one hand, the shot of Svedka in the other. The three of you tapped your glasses together before downing the shot. The alcohol burned as it slipped down your throat, trying to soothe it with the taste and coolness of the Sprite. You shook a bit, throwing the cup away in a nearby trash can.
“That was fucking gross, I hate you so much for choosing Svedka.”
“I could’ve chosen something even more nasty, like Jack.” Mel laughed, leading the three of you over to a section in the lounge where you could stand a decent enough distance away from one another, instead of being piled on top of one another.
“I would have rather taken a shot of Jack, Mel.” You spoke, sipping more of your Sprite. Tamia pointed out a few of the people they had talked about earlier, letting you put names to faces.
In the midst, two of the Sigma brothers decided to start a dance battle, capturing the attention of those around them. Everyone joined in, gathering around the two guys. Mel and Tamia joined too, but you had slipped out of their grasp by telling them you had to use the bathroom.
You were happy to escape the party, sneaking out with a bottle of Smirnoff the boys had left unattended. You walked outside, taking a deep breath in. You were thankful to be met with the smell of fresh air, not smelling sweat and booze everywhere. Your peace and tranquility was ruined by someone’s voice, “Well, don’t you look adorable.”
Your head snapped towards the voice, seeing Jake sitting up against the bike rack with a cigarette between his fingers. “Shut up.”
“What? I can’t compliment you?”
“No,” you started, crossing your arms with the bottle still in your hand. “No, you can’t.”
“Why’s that?”
“Because I hate you.” Jake looked at you, up and down, taking a drag of his cigarette. You screwed off the cap of the bottle, taking a pull. You tried your hardest to not make a face, looking away slightly when the familiar sting settled in your throat.
“Why do you hate me? I’ve never spoken to you before.”
“Do I have to have a reason?” You asked, walking closer to him.
“Suppose not. But if I knew why you hated me,” he tossed his cigarette butt on the ground, stomping on it with his boot. “Then maybe I could find a way to make you not hate me.”
“Unless you flunk your next exam, I guarantee that won’t happen.”
“Oh, I get it.” He chuckled, standing up from the bike rack he was leaning against. He grabbed his cigarette butt up from the ground, tossing it into the nearest garbage can. He turned towards you, staring at you with his brown eyes. “You’re just mad because I’m smarter than you.”
“You’re never in class. You shouldn’t be ahead of me.” You glared at him, lips moving into a frown.
“Just because I’m never there doesn’t mean I’m not getting the information. I work five, sometimes six days a week. We only have class three days a week. Typically, I gotta work those days. Heinz sends me the powerpoints and the assignment notes so I never miss anything.”
“Oh yeah? Where do you even work then?” You asked.
He chuckled, fingers brushing yours that were wrapped around the bottle. “Now if I told you that, it would ruin all the fun,” he looked you up and down once more, licking his lips slightly. “Well, maybe I’ll see you and your bottle inside.” 
You waited til the doors closed behind him to roll your eyes, and huff outwardly. You took the bottle of Smirnoff, turned on your heels and walked towards your dorm hall. You hated Jake. You really hated Jake.
Your midterms came and went. The stress decreased slightly, but only to be raised again as the end of the semester loomed around. Assignments started piling up, various papers and presentations due all around the same week. Since the end of Spring Break, you had been holed up in your room, left to your mountains of homework.
Your Microbio class had a presentation due that coincided with the research project you had been working on all semester long. Human Anatomy and Physiology (or affectionately known as BIO 312) had a major cumulative exam on the entire semester, which stressed you out more than any other homework assignment or exam you had.
Thankfully, your school held an all day event that attempted to boost the morale of the students on campus. Filled with a bunch of free things, you took advantage of everything offered.
Lined up on tables were various student organizations set up, with their own little games and prizes. A few of them had speakers that played the music they wanted to listen to, all speakers attempting to outman the other. However, the one that ended up winning was a tie dye station located in the lawn, handing out free t-shirts to dye.
One of the guys at the tie dye station had a wide smile on his face while his hands were dripping with dye. Setting your prizes down at a table where Tamia and Mel had put their things, you walked over to him. He welcomed you over with a smile, “Hey! Lookin’ to tie dye?”
“Yeah, I’m a medium.” You smiled at him, blocking the sun with your hand. He called over to Benny, asking him to pull a medium out for you. Benny handed you the shirt with a smile. “I’ve never dyed anything before.”
“Never?! That’s a crime against mankind, darlin’, let’s get this shirt dyed.” He spoke, talking you over the colors in each of the buckets. He explained to you some basic color theory, although you had remembered that from your high school painting class, you didn’t stop him; he was pretty when he spoke.
The curls on his head stuck out from the shaved sides, the gold of his earrings stood out underneath the blistering April sun. He licked his lips often, using the back of his hand to wipe sweat from his forehead. He helped you pick out the style you wanted, making sure the rubber bands were placed exactly where you wanted them. “I’ll dip them in the bucket for you so you don’t get your hands dirty.”
“Thank you. I could’ve managed on my own, but I definitely appreciate it.”
“Of course. What’s your name?” You offer up to him, before he lets out a chuckle. You question him with a pull of your eyebrows. “Jake talks about you.”
“You know Jake?”
“Yeah, he’s my twin.” As soon as the word left his mouth, you could see the resemblance; you almost scolded yourself for not realizing it sooner. They were similar, especially in their features and their eyes, although the two of them had very distinct color differences. Josh, as he told you after dropping the bomb on you, had warmer eyes, filled with caramel colored hues of brown in relation to Jake’s colder tones; his eyes were a darker shade of brown, with the occasional gleam of flirtation laced within the reflection.
He spoke quite differently from Jake, mostly just with the sound of his voice. It matched their eyes, their personalities. Josh’s bright, bubbly stature followed in his voice, almost theatrical as he spoke. “I guess that makes sense, you two do kind of look alike. Minus the hair, of course.”
“Well, of course. Mine’s better,” you liked that about him - how kind his tone was. You attempted to grill him about what Jake was saying about you, curiosity flowing violently through your bloodstream as if it lit your body on fire. “He just says that you’re second in the Bio class you have with him, and that it makes you mad.”
“It does, Jake’s never there. I’ve seen him three times, and two of those times were for exams.” Josh wrung out the part that had been soaking in the dye for a bit, watching the water fall back into the bucket.
“Yeah, it’s cause he’s working all the time, if I’m honest. Jake stays home during the week to work at the nursing home in our hometown. We don’t really have a large CNA population, most of the people who work there are highschool kids, so Jake’s really been their guy. Especially since high school, as soon as he graduated he moved to full time. All the old ladies love him.” He snorts, dipping your shirt into the blue dye.
“I didn’t know that.” You thought he was lying about where he was, which is why guilt started to eat away at you. You felt terrible for making assumptions, but you couldn’t take any of that back now.
“Jake doesn’t talk to a lot of people, but we love him anyway.” You chewed at your bottom lip, rethinking your opinion of Jake. “You goin’ to the concert later tonight?”
“Hadn’t decided. Mel and Tamia want to, so I’ll probably end up going. Are you?”
“Yeah, I think I’ll probably go.”
“Do you know who’s playing?”
“Some local band I think? I’ve heard a lot of the girls think the frontman’s pretty handsome.” He spoke with a smirk. You promised him you’d go, just to see if the girls had been right. He handed you your t-shirt to hold while he grabbed you a plastic bag. He also handed you a piece of paper with instructions on how to take care of your new tie dye.
“Make sure when you wash it, you wash it by itself. Otherwise, you’ll dye all of your other clothes and believe me, you don’t want that,” he chuckled, as if he was speaking from experience.
You thanked him with a warm smile, waving to him before returning to your room. As soon as you got back, you opened your window, allowing the air flow to travel inside. It kept you cool, allowing you to walk around comfortably with a t-shirt and shorts on. You put your plastic bag in the closet of your room, writing on your white board to remember to take it out and wash it tomorrow.
You texted Mel and Tamia, knowing that Mel would probably have some smart comeback about why you want to go to the concert. It wasn’t that you didn’t join them on nights out, you just had a lot riding on your academic success. Not only because you were the first one in your family to go to college, but also because of your mass of scholarships that only continued to flow if your GPA was at a suitable level. Anything below a 3.2, and you would lose almost all of them.
To: The 3 Dumb Sluts
Are we going to the concert tonight?
From: The 3 Dumb Sluts - Mel
Are you offering to come with us without us needing to beg and plead for you to join?
To: The 3 Dumb Sluts
Don’t make me take it back, Mel
From: The 3 Dumb Sluts - Tamia
We’re absolutely going. Come to mine whenever you want to get ready :)
To: The 3 Dumb Sluts
The doors open at 8 right? I’ll be over about 5:30-6ish. Gotta finish up this paper for Heinz real quick
You locked your phone before they could scold you for doing homework on a day that was designated for relaxation and recuperation. You pulled out your Anat and Physio binder, pulling out the sources you printed off in the library. You ran through the last one with a blue highlighter between your teeth. 
You set an alarm on your phone for five o’clock, saving enough time for you to shower.  You were about halfway through the last page when your timer went off. You silenced it, attempting to hurriedly finish highlighting the page. The article was placed onto your desk, highlighter returned to the cup on your desk filled with various writing utensils.
You pulled out your shower caddy, putting it on top of your dresser before pulling out your robe. You laid it over the edge of your bed, removing all of your clothes. You threw them into your hamper and put on your robe. You slipped on your slides, grabbed your caddy and traveled to the bathroom.
Underneath the uneven streams from the showerhead, you thought about Jake.
Maybe your first impressions of him were wrong. When Josh told you about the nursing home back in their hometown, you felt instantaneously bad for assuming that he just never showed up. You knew from what Jake had told you, that he had work, but you figured that was just an excuse.
You bit at the skin of your lips, hands on your shoulders as you soaked the warmth of the water in. You were pulled out of your thoughts very quickly as someone flushed the toilet, making the water fade in from super hot to super fucking cold. You hated the school’s water system.
You finished your shower quickly, drying off with the towel slightly before putting your robe on and throwing your hair up into your towel. You walked back into your room, locking it behind you. You set your caddy back where it originally was.
You threw on a pair of jean shorts that hadn’t seen the light of day since early October, pairing it with a long sleeve shirt that you had gotten back in high school for Christmas. It was plain, brown, but hugged your body well. The sweatshirt debate lasted a few seconds before you remembered how hot it was going to be outside. A record temperature for mid-April, almost 80 degrees outside.
When you checked your phone getting back from the shower, it was just barely five thirty. You texted the groupchat again, asking if it would be cool to come over a half an hour earlier than you had originally said. You knew it was a dumb question, you would always be welcome in their room. You chuckled at Mel’s response of, “Are you fucking dumb? Of course you can come over. Bring wine if you have any left! No carry-in’s allowed at the concert.”
You put your phone down for a second and slipped on a pair of shoes that were comfortable enough for you to stand in for a long time. They used to be white, but had gotten progressively dirty from the years of use. You shoved your phone in your back pocket and slid a few different bottles of wine into your backpack, separated by extra clothing so the bottles didn’t clink together.
You walked down the stairs, out the door and over to the other dorm building across the walkway. You scanned your keycard to get into the building, walking through the hallways waving to the RA on duty, McKenna. She had been in a few of your classes and was always incredibly nice.
Her room this year was actually a few down from where you were living. McKenna was a great RA, knowing exactly how to handle the rowdiness of the floor while still keeping the resident’s respect. She didn’t bother them unless she needed to, and they didn’t bother her unless needed. She kept it underwraps about the underage drinking that would inevitably happen, mostly by telling the floor they could do what they want, as long as they were quiet by quiet hours (which was around ten thirty on the weekdays, and one in the morning on the weekends).
You took the elevator to the second floor of East Sunderland, getting off as soon as the doors opened. The booths that had previously been up had begun to dissipate, bringing the plastic tables back into the buildings they belonged in. You took a last glance at the people cleaning before heading into Mel and Tamia’s dorm building.
You knocked on the door, coming as soon as you announced yourself to Mel and Tamia. The girls laughed as you walked in, looking at a picture of Mel from when they were a kid. The two of them showed it to you as you settled your bag onto Mel’s chair in the corner of their room. “Your buck teeth! Oh my God, you were adorable, Mel.”
“Oh shut up, I bet you didn’t look any better.” Mel spoke to Tamia, making the three of you laugh. “Anyways, what wine did you bring?”
“The Barefoot we didn’t finish the other weekend, and then I still had some Rose, so I brought those over too. I wasn’t sure what we were feeling.” Tamia pulled some glasses from her shelves, passing them out to the two of you. You filled their glasses with the Rose you brought.
The three of you talked specifics on the plans for tonight, hitting up another fraternity party as soon as the concert ended. There were two separate ones going on at the same time, so the two of you weighed your options over which one to go to. “The Sigs are throwing one, but I’d rather die. Delta’s throwing one, too, we’ll go to theirs instead. And maybe see if anyone’s at the Sig party that we like and stop there before heading back to the dorms.”
You walked down with them to the Athletic Department, hoping to have gotten there early enough to get a good spot. As soon as the doors opened, you were filtered through the doors, making sure that you were students with the college. The three of you half ran to the barricade, settling yourselves against it on the right side, although still somewhat in the middle.
The show wouldn’t start for quite some time yet, the three of you talked amongst yourselves about upcoming finals, what you had to do for various classes. You also found a few people around you to chat to while you waited, hearing laughter roaring through various parts of the crowd.
A few students from the Admissions Office had taken the stage, playing a random playlist of music that matched what the band was going to be playing. Rock thundered through the speakers, filling audience members with anticipation. Rochel addressed the student body, “Hello everyone!” welcomed by the sounds of cheers and screaming.
“We’ve got about fifteen minutes before the band comes on stage, so help us warm them up to the stage!” Everyone clapped, although some of the girls around you looked unenthused as they stared down at their phones. You checked yours for any text messages from any family members. You had nothing, so you put it back in your pocket.
Around four songs played before Rochel turned the microphone on again. Everyone shouted before she talked. “Well, it’s that time! Please, give a warm welcome to Greta Van Fleet!”
Rochel and the two other students walked off the stage, passing by what you had assumed to be one of the band members. He sat behind the drums, smiling and waving off into the crowd. You cheered for him along with Tamia and Mel, cheering just as loud when their bassist walked onto the stage. Both of their hair was longer, goofy smiles on their faces as they got situated with their instruments.
Your mouth hung open as you watched the last two boys walk on stage, seeing the twins. Jake’s eyes scanned the crowd as he slung his guitar over his shoulder. He found you after a moment, sending a smirk your way. You closed your mouth, glaring at him. Mel laughed at you, noticing your demeanor shift. “How we doin’ tonight everyone?”
Everyone cheered. “A lot of you might know me and Jake, seen us on campus and stuff. It’s wonderful to see all of you here, coming to support us as we celebrate the onslaught of spring! It’s been a particularly warm one today, so make sure to drink water! There’s plenty to go around.”
Jake started them off, pick between his fingers as he strummed the beginning chords to one of their songs. Some of the girls had begun to scream, shouting at Jake’s response to Josh’s little speech before he began playing. His signature smirk formed, watching the girls go crazy, eyes scanning the crowd before he found you again.
As Jake continued to play, he looked over to you any time he could. It was hard to tear your eyes away from him, enthralled by the way he looked on stage. You tried your hardest, truly, to look at any of the other boys on the stage aside from Jake but you just couldn’t. He fit the stage just right, bringing the attention away from Josh and demanding to be seen by the entirety of the crowd. He belonged up there.
Jake went to the center of the stage during his solo. Josh lingered around the drummer, keeping to himself, drinking whatever was in his cup. They kept on playing as Jake took the spotlight, everyone cheering and screaming for him. You kept silent, wanting to hear him play. His fingers worked against the frets of the guitar, not before sliding down and up it quickly. 
You tried to hide the awe you were in, but your friends knew. They saw it written all over your face. The frustration and annoyance you felt when you first spotted Jake on stage dissipated the second his guitar solo began. You swallowed thickly, watching as his attention turned from his guitar to you, pointing it in your direction. Your cheeks flushed, and your thighs pressed together.
This was going to be a long night.
The second the concert was over, Josh thanked everyone for coming. His smile was wide as he waved goodbye to everyone, walking off next to Jake who had his guitar by the neck before he passed it off to one of the stage hands. Josh put his hands on his shoulders as they walked off stage.
You stuck around mostly waiting for the crowd to die down before trying to leave the building. Mel and Tamia talked about the show, saying that it was fucking dope, commenting on how excellent Jake’s playing was. You didn’t speak about Jake’s playing, mostly praising Josh for his spectacular performance. “I never expected that voice to come out of him, how heavenly.”
“Talking about me?” Jake cuts through your conversation, walking over to you with Josh not far behind. You roll your eyes. Tamia and Mel congratulate him on such an amazing performance, gushing about how sweet his guitar looks. “Why thank you, ladies.”
“Mel! I didn’t think you were going to be able to come.” He gushed, wiping his hands on the sides of his khaki shorts he had changed into.
“Yeah, well, Miss Quiet over here wanted to see her archnemesis, didn’t you?”
“I-I–” You turned your head slightly towards Jake, who had an amused smirk written all over his face. “I did not, Mellie, stop lying.”
“By the redness of your cheeks, sweetheart, I’d say she was telling the truth.” You had barely noticed that Mel, Tamia and Josh had slipped away from the two of you, leaving you alone.
“I didn’t even know you were playing.” You admitted shyly, hiding underneath a guise of innocence.
“Even if you did, you looked pretty hot and bothered by my playing.” You held the back of your arms, trying hard to maintain eye contact with him. You looked into his eyes, they were staring straight at you.
“Yeah, sure. I actually came because Josh said he was going. He neglected to mention that he was going to be singing,” you looked at Josh who wore a smile that read ‘guilty as charged’ before patting you on the shoulder.
“Hey, you didn’t ask. You just asked if I was going.” You rolled your eyes and chuckled slightly. “Anyways, Sam and Danny are gonna spend the night in my room, so I’ll have to find somewhere else to be tonight. Are you guys going to either of the frat parties tonight?”
“We’re going to the Delta party. The Sigs’ reputation is not the best, and I don’t feel like seeing whether or not it’s right.”
“That is completely understandable. I shall see you ladies there then. You coming, Jake? We still have a lot to put away.”
“Yeah, in a second,” he turned towards Josh who had begun to walk away, waving him off before turning back to the three of you. “I hope you guys enjoyed the show, maybe I’ll catch up with you at the party.”
“You’d like that, wouldn’t you?”
“Yeah, actually, I would.” He smiled at you before joining the other boys cleaning up their amps and cords.
“Jesus Christ, the two of you just need to fuck or something. I don’t think I can handle another interaction like that,” Mel joked, making a gagging face when she finishes her sentence. You pushed at her arm, turning around and walking out of the gym.
Tamia and Mel giggled profusely about your and Jake’s rivalry. The two even started making bets on when the two of you would finally ‘get it on’, as Tamia put it. You just rolled your eyes at the conversation, changing the subject to something different.
The party, though filled with lots of fun and drinking, was a bust. While Josh had shown up with his younger brother and his brother’s friend, as you learned, in tow, Jake was nowhere to be found. You thought to ask Josh why he wasn’t there, but he was too busy dancing with Micah. Through the grapevine, you learned that Micah and Josh had been together since high school.
You stayed around the party for almost two hours before you wanted to go back. A small part of you had wished Jake had actually come. You wondered if maybe the two of you would get along if you put your competitive nature aside. You tried not to dwell on thoughts of Jake’s absence for too long, wanting to enjoy the rest of the night with your girls. But when you had enough of the party, you shouted in Mel’s ear to let her know you wanted to leave.
Mel and Tamia had made sure you got back alright about two hours into the party. Your legs were tired and your feet had begun to hurt. The two of them stumbled with you back to the door of your building, making sure you were inside before leaving to go back. They almost came in with you, until you insisted otherwise.
Laying on your bed with your head pointed towards the ceiling you started thinking about Jake again. What was his reason for not being at the party? Did he just make those comments beforehand just to rile you up? It seemed like the only valid reason your impaired mind could come up with.
You grabbed your phone, almost dropping it on the floor. You sluggishly opened Instagram, and searched for Jake’s profile. You scrolled through, looking at the few photos he did have on his page. Most of the pictures he had were of his guitar, or places he’s traveled. You were sent into a panic when you realized you had accidentally liked an older picture of Jake’s, one from freshman year of college. Hurriedly, you unliked it and immediately locked your phone.
That had been a few days ago.
Now it was Wednesday and your first final exam was here. It was for the class you shared with Jake, BIO 312.  It wasn’t exactly final exam time, but Professor Heinz was going to be away at a conference for a week starting Friday. You didn’t mind, though, since it spaced out your other finals enough to have a decent amount of time to study for them.
You sat at your desk, looking over your notecards one last time before the exam began. A frequent look around the room and you noticed Jake walking in, going to a random seat a couple rows in front of you. He set his bag down next to him, before bending down to grab his laptop. He noticed you watching him and sent a wink your way.
You looked away as you tried to hide the rush of rosy skin that fanned over your cheeks and heated up your ears. You tried to ignore him again until at least when the test started, embarrassed that you got caught looking at him. Your phone pinged and you pulled it out of your bag to look at it, as well as turn it on silent.
jacobtkiszka wants to send you a message.
You swallowed and hit the notification taking you straight to the message.
“Person who turns their test in last pays for coffee?”
Your lips curved into a small smile, feeling your fingers type the first thing that comes to your head.
“Hope you brought your wallet with you, Kiszka.”
You put your phone on Do Not Disturb and shoved it back into your bag. The professor walked through the door, setting her things down on the desk in the front of the room. Her coffee mug still had steam coming from it, freshly poured. A quick look of her watch after getting settled and it was time to start the exam. “Okay, everyone. It’s time for class. Take out your laptops and begin your exam. You may leave when you have finished. Thank you for a great semester, and good luck.”
The questions on the exam were all ones that you knew and had studied for for weeks. It was strenuous, trying to remember everything on the cumulative exam. You had hoped it would go quickly and you would answer them faster than Jake could. Occasionally, you turned to look at Jake, seeing if maybe he was trying to look at you too.
With one question left of your exam, you click the answer and press submit after a minute of debate. You had a bad habit of second guessing yourself occasionally; it was actually the bane of your testing experiences. You hated when you felt confident about an answer, until you really sat with the other possible answers it could be.
You put your laptop back into your bag, zipped it up and noticed that Jake had already left. You cursed to yourself, knowing that now you had to buy Jake a coffee. You waved goodbye to your professor with a smile and walked out the doors. Jake sat outside of the classroom at one of the tables they had throughout the building. “Whatcha reading?”
“Josh recommended it to me, but I’m going to be honest, I fucking hate this book.” He laughed, shoving it into his bag. “You know any good coffee shops around here? I’m kind of tired of Starbucks.”
“I just so happen to know the best coffee shop in town, but it is a bit of a walk, if you don’t mind that?” You asked, walking through the door that Jake was holding before muttering a thank you to him. 
“I could also drive, if you’re okay with that.”
“I’m more than okay with that,” you chuckle, letting him know that your dorm building had enough stairs; any chance you could get to use an elevator, or get driven somewhere, you would take that opportunity in a heartbeat.
The drive was short in comparison to the twenty minute walk it would have taken to get to the shop. Jake tried to offer the radio to you, but you let him play what he wanted to listen to. You didn’t know exactly who was playing, but the blues music that played through the speakers was a breath of fresh air.
Your typical shuffle had a plethora of music from differing genres, whether that be rap or old country. You hadn’t known much when it came to blues music, especially the difference between good blues music and bad. Eventually, you got the courage to ask who was playing and Jake answered, letting you know that the song was by Buddy Guy. “It’s called She Suits Me To A T. I tried for weeks to learn this song when I first started playing music more seriously.”
“This is the coffee shop, at the next corner.” You watched his hand as he made a right turn, noticing him steering with just the palm of his hand. Letting the leather steering wheel glide back to its original position in his hand, elbow propped on the door with the window rolled down.
It’s all you thought about on your way into the coffee shop, completely relying on autopilot. Your responses to Jake were almost textbook, one word sentences that could continue the conversation without much effort. “What’re you thinking of getting?”
“Oh, um, I’m not sure. I usually have them surprise me,” you admit, shoving your hands into your jacket. “Sometimes it’s good, sometimes it’s not. That’s the gamble you take.”
“I like that a lot, actually. I think I’ll have them surprise me too, if you don’t mind.”
“No, not at all.” You smiled at Jake before he went to order for the two of you. You found a place to sit in the meantime, offering a spot towards the windows so you could watch people come and go, each on their own paths of life.
By the time Jake sat down, both of the coffees were in his hand. After a few questions, Jake set the iced drink down in front of you, and the hot drink in front of himself. “Yours is an iced chai, with brown sugar syrup and vanilla. Mine is some sort of tea, I wasn’t really paying attention to what she was saying. I just wanted to remember what she put in yours in case you liked it.”
“Oh,” you spoke, bringing the cup towards you. “Thank you, that’s really sweet. Do you like your drink?”
“You know, it’s really not bad. I wouldn’t have gotten it otherwise, but it’s really not bad.”
“You hate it.”
“I hate it. It’s not good.” The two of you chuckled before you offered him a sip of your drink. “Mhmm,” he moaned. “That’s good, oh my God.”
The two of you continued small talk, whether it was over the classes you had previously taken, memories of parties from past years – anything. You shared previous high school experiences, mostly about the ridiculous things that were considered parties in your teenage years.
Conversation with Jake was surprisingly a lot easier than you thought it would be. Especially since you’ve hated him pretty much your entire college career. You figured he’d be stuck up, aware of his academic achievements and ready to flaunt them in front of anyone who’d listen.
He was the opposite. His sentences were wrapped with kindness, and the reflection in his voice seemed nothing but positive. His voice was like silk, he could’ve talked you into damn near anything as long as his voice sounded like that. It hurt when the conversation slowed, spending a few moments to take in the scene around you two, as well as finally being able to drink more of your drink (which was very delicious, it was almost like crack).
“How long have you been playing guitar?” You asked after the silence became almost uncomfortable to sit with.
“Oh jeez. I’ve been playing since I was… like three? Yeah, three.” You stared at him with eyes slightly wide, mouth agape. “What?”
“N-Nothing, that’s just a really long time. You’re what, 21 now?” He clarified that he was only twenty, his birthday roughly a week away. You poked fun at him, mentioning how you were older, even if it was by less than a year.
“Josh is throwing us a birthday party, if you want to come. Since it’ll be our 21st, we’re having it at our parents cabin on Lake Michigan. You’re welcome to bring Mel and Tamia if you’d like. Sam and Danny are going to be there, even though they’re underage, but we’re gonna pretend like they’re older.” Jake spoke with one last sip of his drink, letting the empty cup echo on the table as he set it down.
“I will let Mel and Mia know. I can’t make any sure decisions without talking to them first, but I’m pretty damn sure that they’ll say they would love to go.”
“Yeah, I don’t think they’ll say no either. They seem pretty adamant that you have a little crush on me or something,” he said, putting your cups inside of a bus tub to be picked up and washed.
“I don’t have a crush on you,” you laughed, walking out of the coffee shop with Jake. “I actually hate you, remember?”
“You may say that you hate me, but you’re not really good at showing it.”
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Omg omg sun! I am so glad to have you back!!!
You still ship Camren? Can’t wait to hear new theories when they both drop new songs if you still do!
mucccch love to youuu!!! 🤍
Undeniably yes i do and I was always working just in my drafts but can’t wait to share my thoughts ✨
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Hiiii babies and dear Anons 👋🏼🤗. I'm back with a new Q&A post. Those who follow me already know that I haven't been well for quite some time now, and therefore also know that this is the reason for my delays in posting 😭.
Oh and, I apologize again to those Anons of the songs' analysis 😅. They're not even in this post 😅. Please forgive me guys 🙏🏼. Analysis are long and it was a mess to even post this between work and my bad health 😭. I'll make sure to have them ready for the next Q&A though. Sorry again 🙏🏼.
Now let's move on directly to the answers. Enjoy 🙃.
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Hi to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. Thank you so much 🤗 and yeah, of course you can DM me. I never appear to be online, but you can write to me whenever you want. I'll answer you as soon as I can 😉.
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You can find the answer in the last ask https://fa-by.tumblr.com/post/717423115134779392/hi-to-you-too-dear-anon-and-thank-you-very. Have a great day too, Anon.
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I'm slowly getting better, Anon. I hope you're doing well.
Sorry, but the answer hasn't changed. In case you didn't see it in that post: ---please, please, please guys, don’t ask me to tell you the sites because I won’t. I don’t want any problems.
In addition I can only tell you that many sites get shut down or changed (or both) over the years, especially with the too much word-of-mouth. So I'm sorry but you have to find them on your own. Like I said, I don't want any problems.
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Hiiii to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄 and I hope you're having a beautiful day too.
As for your question, I'm sorry, my dear 🥺. I'm so so sorry, but I don't understand what you're asking me. I really tried 😅 and forgive me 🙏🏼 but I just didn't understand. Could you please formulate the question better or give me an example?
Again, I'm sorry, I really am 😭.
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Hi to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. My girlfriend and I aren't having much luck with health lately 😅, especially me 😅😅, but I hope you are (healthy) 🙃.
To answer your question, no. All In My Feelings screams Camila in every letter 🤣😜.
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Hello to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. A little better, you?
And nope. I personally disagree with that theory I saw around a long time ago. That is Mila's point of view for me.
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Hey to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. Thank you so much for your kind words and rest assured that I'll say hi from you to my gf live since she'll be staying here with me for 2 months 🥳.
About your question, I would very much love to help you and solve your doubts, believe me, but I'm sorry I don't know how 😅 because I don't have a specific context. Mila has been to Spain a looot of times, so if you could tell me specifically when and send me the pics of the phrases maybe, just maybe I might be able to help you 😄.
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Good morning to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. This good morning I don't know why I swear but it's so new and refreshing, I love it 😍! Thank you, my dear Anon 🤩.
Anyway, the answer to your question is: on purpose of course 🤣.
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Hi to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I'm sorry, my dear, but you must have me confused with someone else because I never said anything like that.
I hope you're having a beautiful day too 😄.
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Hi to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄 and thanks, I'm trying. Short summary on the Camren songs you say? Okay, I'll do as I did with Prelude.
All In My Feelings: 2014
Always Love: 2016
Trust Issues: 2017
The One: 2018
My dear, who said I can't do the analysis?
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Hi to you too, dear Anon 👋🏼😄. I'm sorry I can't be as present as before, but shouldn't you be happy that, even if not always, I'm here? Focus on the positive 😉.
1) [If, Lauren's new PR is ONLY to cover up camren-] and the songs (old and future ones), and their private life, yes.
[-why would Lauren do it again (she has denied it thousands of times camren)?]
Why would Lauren do it again, what? Why have a PR or why deny Camren? Sorry but I got confused 😅.
In any case, you can find the answer here in the first ask https://fa-by.tumblr.com/post/717423115134779392/hi-to-you-too-dear-anon-and-thank-you-very.
2) [How long approximately do you think this PR of Lauren will last?]
I hope they've made a basic contract for at least one year's duration with no possibility of extending it beyond that, but I don't know. It'll depend on whether things go as planned or not.
3) [And how do you imagine the PR to end?]
I honestly don't cause I don't care 🤭🤣. No seriously tho 🤣. I see two possible roads connected to those indirects. **For those who don't know, I saw that there are people who think they broke up because of what they assumed were indirects of a breakup on IG.**
Road n°1: that was all PR bullshit as usual. Sasha's on tour with Madonna again and the two of them (L&S) can't see each other, ergo, they can't be seen together to the public like before. Ergo x2, there are other ways to publicize. People need to learn to remember that PRs feed and thrive on speculation and gossip. So ergo x3, nothing has changed because it was one of the many ways to get people to talk about the PR. The PR is still on.
Road n°2: a merge of everything I said in road n°1 + what I said in point 2). Let me explain better.
If my hope that they've made a basic contract for at least one year's duration with no possibility of extending it beyond that can be the reality, then it means that they're running out of time. Why? Because as I explained in my Laucy 2.O post, Lauren and Sasha supposedly got together on the night of December 18, 2021 (unless we’ll have anniversary posts in the future) but officially, the relationship was announced on February 14, 2023, on Valentine's Day.  February 2024 is not that far away. If that's why, December is right around the corner if they want to go ahead with that 🤣. But anyway. This means that they could've used the indirects both for publicity and to generate speculation as I said in road n°1, and to initiate the future official break-up. They could very well use the distance as an excuse for the breakup.
But again, who knows in the end 🤷🏻‍♀️. This could be an idea 😏.
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Hello to you too, dear @camilalauren0327 👋🏼😄, and thank you.
It can be both, although it's rarer. It's usually the inside people who've worked on it with her in a personal way who are the ones looking for potential buyers. By inside people I mean producers and writers by the way. I'd also remind you tho that this is only possible if Mila is super sure she doesn't want a song anymore. Because if she's attached to it or just wants to reuse it in the future for lyrics or whatever, then the sale isn't even a thought.
You’re welcome, my dear 🤗, anytime.
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Hello again, my dear @camilalauren0327 👋🏼😄. My health is improving a little and I hope yours is waaaay better than mine 😊.
1) Chronologically speaking, no. Neither Lauren nor Camila have ever released songs in order. It's more evident with Mila because we have a lot more of her songs, but they both release songs about different situations that happened even in different years. If they were to release them in chronological order, the lies would be all too obvious even to the general public. Instead, in this way, it's easier to hide the truth and mix it with the narratives and their PRs. It's simply up to us to put the pieces together.
2) In the AMAs interview (Oct 9, 2018) with Chelsea Briggs for Billboard, Laur said she'd written 40 songs. Of those 40 songs, and taking away the ones she'd already released, 5 were chosen for Prelude. In December 2021 in the interview with Zach Sang, she said she still had about 50 songs done. In the interview with People (May 26, 2023) (https://people.com/lauren-jauregui-on-working-with-ex-ty-dolla-amid-new-relationship-exclusive-7504696) she said: “I haven't really written a lot since 2020” and explained that In Between “It’s in between the time of Prelude and the actual official debut album”. And in the one with Galore (Jun 20, 2023) (https://galoremag.com/lauren-jauregui-releases-her-newest-ep-in-between-and-talks-about-new-music-love-whats-next/) she said: “These songs have actually been sitting with me since 2018/2019”.
Now what do I want to tell you with this? That Prelude and In Between are the same thing. They're part of the same era. Imagine them together as one album and not as two separate projects, also because that was her initial intent. Even the album we'll get will most likely be part of Prelude and In Between as a whole.
3) It may be as it may not be, my dear 💁🏻‍♀️. We're still getting pieces of their story from both of them, and Laur has basically just started, so 🤷🏻‍♀️.
I hope I've helped you as you wanted 😉.
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Hi again, my dear K 👋🏼😄.
[Hi faby sorry to hear u were ill again I hope ur feeling better now and are taking care of yourself. Glad u remembered me and I also send a virtual hug back ❤️]
🤗🤗🤗🤗
[So the reason I’m not adopting another cat is bc my cat that died Rocky I have her brother still as I adopted them together and he won’t accept another and honestly he’s a little shit 😂]
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 By the way, if I'd known that you have the brother, I'd never have advised you to adopt a new one, especially since he's a little shit and I dare not imagine what he would do to the newcomer 🙈🤣. 
[but I will again I also would love to adopt a dog bur again can’t with him and where I live my landlord don’t allow dogs 🙄]
Let's hope that one day you will also because as a dog lover, I can tell you that having a cat and having a dog are two completely different things 🤣. You'll see hopefully someday 🤞🏼🥰.
[Ur thoughts “🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh yeah? And who told them that? Lauren or Camila? Or both of them? Over text, call, or video call? 🤣.” Was exactly my thoughts when I read that theory 🤣🤣 they must of read too many fanfics 😂 then 🙄 this is why we get called delusional 😂]
Yeah, unfortunately 🙄.
[Ur right about fans leaving L she has always been like this just maybe when she was in 5H their team controlled what she posted/says in a way but I am curious as to why she hasn’t changed her image yet and thought she would now being independent she could show more of her true self and stop coming across as a hypocrite but again I never really thought until u mentioned it that’s she comfortable doing what she is and she knows sexualising herself sales. If I’m not mistaken I believe she even posted in her caption b4 how when she posts sexy pics etc it has triple the likes then her music etc does.]
Exactly 😎.
[I also found it hilarious how C’s fans act when she spent all that time in New York getting papped multiple times a day everyday with yoghurt then they split then C disappears from earth and they complain🤣🤣🤣 I don’t understand how they can be so stupid every single time it happens and don’t even get me started on his fans 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ saying C’s the attention seeker and she needs him to be successful 😂 like he wasn’t papped walking shirtless conveniently on a hiking trail completely empty but somehow a pap just so happens to be there🤣🤣🤣🤣 u can’t make this shit up]
Yeah sure, she's so much attention seeker that I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times she's been papped since they ‘broke up’ again 🤦🏻‍♀️. Contrary to mister please give me attention that three people's fingers wouldn't be enough 🤣. But anyway, you said it yourself: people are stupid 💁🏻‍♀️.
[Also have u heard the AI songs of Camren that shit is good-]
I've listened to them since day one and I keep progressively doing so as new versions come out 😍. And yep, you're absolutely right.
[-and makes me wish they would do a song together better yet a whole ass album can u imagine that?]
Wouldn't that be a dream for all of us 🤣?
[Do u think Camren have heard them? I’m also surprised they haven’t done anything about it.]
Heard or not, they can't do anything about it 🤷🏻‍♀️. Exactly like all the other singers this is happening to. It's still publicity if you think about it.
[I am excited for C’s new music and I hope they give her more freedom where she can really show of her writing and don’t know about u but I would love for her to do some rock/edgy songs. Her NBTS is still one of my favs]
Absofuckinglutely! NBTS as well as Shameless which is one of my favorites, although Shameless is more pop punk rock with a darker edge. I'd love it if she continued to do that and also to re-explore other genres. Like, for example, something trap like in OMG, or electropop like in Crown, or even afrobeat, something new that as a former dancer literally knocked me down, like she did in Ku Lo Sa. *Can you tell that I love everything she does? 😅*
And don't get me wrong, I love love LOVE that she’s primarily a pop singer. That's the main reason why I discovered 5H in the first place in the far back March 2016. I'm just saying that along with pop, I hope she continues to explore other genres and not focus solely on Latin songs like she did for the most part with Familia. Again, don't get me wrong. I love and adore her Latin songs as well and I also understand that she wanted to integrate her culture more into the last album, and I loved them all. I'm just saying that I'd like her to continue to integrate and explore genres in a more varied way (including the Latin ones) as she did before Familia. That's all 😄.
[Hope ur having a nice day/night and are feeling better 😘]
Thank you so much, you're always super kind 🤩. I hope you're doing very well and I hope you're having a nice day/night too 😘. Virtual hug 🤗.
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[HIIII Faby!!! 💜💜💜 ​Me again :P I hope u feel much better and healthier since last time .]
HIIII to you too, my dear purple heart Anon 👋🏼😄. I actually do, thanks 🤗. I'm unfortunately still not 100% yet because it's a long healing process, but I'm better 😊.
[1THANK U SO MUCH for exposing Lauren and Sasha's fake relationship like I asked u to!!!! I'm sure you'll have made many people in doubt happy and u made me laugh a lot as always🤣 .]  
1) It's always a pleasure to help you guys when I can 🥰 and I'm happy to have made you laugh as you hoped, my dear 😉.
[2Wha do u think of the Camren AI images? Aren't they the most beautiful thing?]
2) I obviously loooove them 😍🤩😍🤩 and yeah, they're beautiful 😍🤩😍🤩.
[And of course Camila stays silent while Lauren blocks CS 🤣 .]
Well 🤣 that hasn't changed from the past, right? At least it's a great way to get people to talk about them and keep the fandom alive and they both know it 🤭.
[3Did u see Lauren's last zoom cause OMG 🤣 I thought of u! She was talking about divine energies and said "we all have masculine and feminine within us , we all have to balance these energies in order to be in a space of clarity within ourselves". I rememberd that an anon told u the opposite in an ask and I went to look for your answer because I remembered that u proved them wrong and u were right as always🤣 I mean guys Faby said this 2 years ago and Lauren confirmed it now 0.0 .]
3) I did see it, my dear 😁. I'm surprised you remembered that 🤣. You have an excellent memory!
For those who don't know, the purple heart Anon refers to the LimeWire Zoom that occured on Sep 28, 2023, while this is the ask I answered  https://fa-by.tumblr.com/post/669510575975546880/hey-babies-and-dear-anons-welcome-to-a-new (third to last ask, the one before the two analyses).
[I don't know how u do it honestly Faby . It looks like u have a special and deep understanding of both Camrens as people and I'm always blown away by how u get it right. That's why I trust u completely :D .]
Thank you so much for trusting me completely, my 💜 Anon. It warms my heart 😍😍. And honestly? I think I have it (the special and deep understanding of both Camren as people). And I'm absolutely not saying this to brag or anything like that, I swear. I like to think that I have it because of my personal experiences, because of how I see life, and especially because I love them and have studied them and have always paid attention (even before Laur said so in that tweet).
[For this I wanna thank u .]
No, my dear, THANK YOU ❤️.
[Thnk u for always being available to answer our asks and for always being kind to us.]
I'll always be (unless someone is disrespectful).
[Thank u for always being objective no matter what even when it goes against Camren & their being together and what other CS say .]
I don't lie and I'm pretty realistic as you've perfectly noticed. If something didn't happen, I say so. If something is just a made-up fantasy, I have no problem debunking it. If delusional shit is said just to get attention, I have no trouble telling it like it is.
I don't care. I don't care about any of that. I don't care about the fanfiction imagination that lots of CS unfortunately have of them. I mean, do I want them to be end-game? Hell yeah! But I know there's a chance they might not be. Just as I know that they've both been and that there's a chance that they'll be with other people in the future as has already happened in the past when they broke up.
I just care about the truth, because they're people. They're two flesh-and-blood people with their own lives and their own feelings, and a lot of people still don't understand that. So thank you, my dear. I'm happy that there are people like you who also appreciate my objectivity ❤️.
[Thank u for always being truthful in what u think and always showing proofs of what u say.]
Always ❤️.
[Thank u thank u thank u so much in general I don't know what we'd do without u and your posts. At least me :P .]
And again, no, my dear, THANK YOU ❤️. Thank you for always being kind and polite to me. Thank you for your concern for my health. Thank you for all the ‘HIIII’s I know you write on purpose to distinguish yourself from those you know who don't even greet me before asking. Thank you for all the asks you've been sending me over the years. Thank you for believing in me because, honestly? It's thanks to you and those like you that I'm still here. So THANK YOU in general!❤️
[Have a beautiful day be safe I love u and say hi to your gf. 😘]
Have a beautiful day too 🙃. I'll say hi to my girlfriend when I'll let her read the post live 😄. I love you too, be safe too and take care of yourself 😘.
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Aaand I'm done 👅. Thank you all for your asks and I hope I've been helpful this time too 🙃. As usual, I'm always available for those who have questions, so ask away 😄.
Remember to be nice. Always. Both with others and with yourselves. Be a good example. Be patient. Be safe and take care of yourselves. Don't let our ship sink. Keep shipping them, but please respectfully 🙏🏼. Sending you virtual love and hugs 🤗🤗🤗. I love you, babies. Always with love, F ❤️.
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emisonme · 1 year
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I have a real question what would you do if Lauren did Marry this girl shes dating like would you take back everything you said about Camren in the past and the theories today in the present.
No!!!
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mazes-and-the-madness · 4 months
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Hii
on Twitter, in late 2015, Camila tweeted a photo of an artwork that she liked, and a fan replied trying to link it to Camren or to Lauren
And Camila replied: "this literally has nothing to do with that, this specific pic means a lot to me and always has, don't make it about that pls
I believe Camren was real but I never believed into the moon sun theory lol. What about you? What do you think about the theory and camila’s reply?
I do think the sun/moon meant something to the girls, given how many times they’ve posted about it and depicted it in their art. That one specific reply from Camila was probably during a rough patch for Camren (of which they had plenty), so she probably didn’t want to associate it with Lauren at the time.
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skywithesmeralds · 1 year
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Saludos, sky! Love your takes and theories, so gotta ask:
L is scared of letting camren be public now because of all the denying through the years, right? Do you think people would hold it against her, though? For the public eye is quite obvious that she has shut down the possibility of camren in the past due to her own insecurities and fandom pressure when she was young (even though it has been happening all along…). I mean… The narrative already exists and its endearing. It would be natural for L to finally allow herself to review this feelings now once they slowly start to become friends again and it turns out latin culture was indeed sexual tension all along 😛
What are they waiting for exactly? Context? For 5h to make a reunion or something and make it seem incidental? SM’s coming out party?
Let us hear your thougths <3
Hi, everything you say except SM plans is a yes
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mylittle-sunshine · 1 year
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Why don't you ever reply to your asks?
Well... If I had some, I would have replied 😭 no one really knows me in the fandom, I am not a big page and people know that I don't have any contacts in the camren world/fifth harmony so why would they ask about my theories? I haven't posted any for years now either by the way.
All I know right now in the fandom is that Camila said yes to being with Shawn again and was spotted with him at Coachella and somewhere else but after that, I haven't seen them anymore.
Lauren is with Sasha but no one in Lauren's family wants to follow them and that Taylor gratuated (congrats even though she won't ever read that). So it's pretty basic and common knowledge.
I'd love for people to actually give me some tea too btw, now that I'm talking about that 👀
But yeah, I have no Ask but when I do, even when it is a hater, I reply lol
Does it look suspicious the fact that I have no asks or something for you to ask me about that??
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alarrytale · 6 months
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I used to be a Camren shipper back in the day and it's weird how differently that turned out from Larry. I never believed they were actually together but sooo many people did until Lauren nipped it in the bud by firmly saying it isn't real, it never was, and she hated the way shippers made her feel about herself so knock it off. Now there is no more Camren. Just shows how easy it would be for Harry or Louis to put a stop to Larry if it really bothered them like people claim it does. But Lauren and Camila also definitely are not singing songs that begin with the word "Camren" or writing love songs that name drop a place they used to live together or specific concerts they went to together. So there's that.
Hi, anon!
Larry is different to so many other ships, because larry isn't a ship, it's real. It's years and years of evidence based theory building. We've never gotten a believeable larry denial from them because they can't deny it, because it's real. Also, i don't understand why ships have to be denied in the first place? It's sort of homophobic? Just let it be. It's what fans in every fandom does. If you have to address it just say it's not real and say you're flattered. If it bothers you then check your privilege as a straight person and ask yourself why it's affecting you so much.
The larry denials is because sony thinks it's harming the bottom line. I don't know why lauren denied it (seems so unneccessary to me, but idk anything about her), but that band is long gone and so are their careers.
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athenamariee · 10 months
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Hey friend, I joined camren land in 2020.
Unfortunately there were nothing I could find to understand what's going on between C and L, also COVID didn't help a lot back then and I was served showmila shitty movie so I got myself a Tumblr but couldn't use it at that time because of personal drama life.
Can you please initiate me correctly to camren... I need a camren friend to discuss my camren theories.
Have a good day
of course i can! shoot me a message and i’ll give you my insta cause i’m on there more than here
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I have two wolves inside of me: one of those wolves really wants to share my theories/speculations/analyses of scarlet hollow and the other wolf is my intense fear of being wrong and my self doubt that makes me think that no one else wants to hear my rambling.
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I know I have a crazy Camren post to upload about an equally crazy theory about Lauren and her trip to Cuba, but I've decided to put it off for a while. Although it is on my Twitter account in Spanish. Sorry to leave you guys hanging a little bit
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whatiwillsay · 2 years
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Ok so I just wanna say I really enjoyed your Camila/Camren podcast episode, I think most of your points were pretty valid and I agree with them but there were a few things that were a little on the eh side to me like some of the lyrics things and interviews one thing I want to point out is that for starters the Fifth Harmony fandom is definitely a fandom that is very special in a lot of ways and if you aren't an active fan/stan you wouldn't understand most of the context behind things like they're music (whether it be solo or as a group) and especially they're interviews. I think one thing, in particular, I want to point out is the interview where Camila talks about her marrying her celebrity crush. Now that interview is very special in the Camren fandom just because of what was happening, on and off screen.
This interview is very interesting because after that interview it is speculated by the fandom that Lauren and Camila both got into trouble for interacting so much in the interview. It is theorized that Camila and Lauren have been said to not be allowed to interact with each other in public because of the ship, this theory came to light because of the countless videos and photos of management, bodyguards, the other girls, and even their own parents telling them not to interact, like the video of Lauren waiting for Camila outside of a van, Camila was interacting with fans and Lauren was waiting for her in front of the van Big Rob their bodyguard at the time pulls Lauren by the arm and pushes her towards the van after this incident Lauren posted a pic on her insta with the caption "smile baby everyone's watching" like it's pretty well-known knowledge in the fandom that they weren't allowed to interact with each other like the rest of the girls were, This interview by itself is pretty interesting but what makes it even more interesting to CS is the photo that came from it. In the photo Lauren and Camila are seen standing and talking to three other people from management, this photo was taken after the interview took place which makes us believe that they had gotten in trouble after that interview.
There are so many other things and moments that we can talk about and what I can confidently say is that if you aren't a 5H/CS you are definitely going to overlook a lot of things but I think you guys did a really nice job considering how much-limited knowledge you have on the girls if you have any questions or are looking for any more evidence I would be happy to help especially since I know how disorganized things can be in this fandom and how much harder it is looking for dates and such. Also, I like how you said that Camren is a mix of every ship because it's the most accurate thing I have ever heard.
P.S. You are probably going to find the conspiracy about the Camren bracelet (hair tie) that they always wear around their wrists and tbh that is like a very controversial topic in this fandom just because most of us are like "it's just a hair tie" but at the same time there are moments that are pretty weird like a how one of the girls (mostly Dinah) would tell Lauren to take it off in interviews or Lauren would try to take it off her self when she was in interviews and when she asked someone to photoshop it off her when she took a pic with steve Aoki like it's just a really weird thing so idk if you would want to look into that but that's something that's mentioned quite a lot in this fandom. And also Camren shippers do not believe Lauren actually dated Lucy Vives and there is pretty good evidence to support that theory along with the theory that Shawn and Camila are and were a PR stunt that was developed in 2014 if you want more information about those please ask because we are more than willing to help inform you about those theories.
well, you're going to hate the second episode because we will be focusing somewhat on laucy and what a great ship it is. (there will be a few more comments on camren as well but that won't be our sole focus)
sorry my friend you've gone a bit too far into conspiracy land. while i think it's fair to say camila and lauren may have hooked up and camila seemed to have a big fat crush on lauren and maybe even some music about her i don't go beyond that. lauren didn't fake date lucy and camila and lauren couldn't have had some insane monogamous thing because lauren was with lucy for a good chunk of time during 5h.
if you've seen lauren's couple of interviews talking about how traumatic it was when she and lucy got outed and how miserable she was that those pictures were leaked you would know that wasn't fake.
but yes we will be talking about the hair ties and the kissing photo on instagram.
but babe please take the w- your fav is proudly out and queer and was literally dating a beautiful model. and yeah maybe had a fling with her bandmate but i'm not gonna stand for laucy slander. people don't fake getting outed.
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sun-to-my-luna · 1 month
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Hii how are you?
on Twitter, in late 2015, Camila tweeted a photo of an artwork that she liked, and a fan replied trying to link it to Camren or to Lauren
And Camila replied: "this literally has nothing to do with that, this specific pic means a lot to me and always has, don't make it about that pls
I believe Camren was real but I never believed into the moon sun theory lol. What about you? What do you think about the theory and camila’s reply?
I’m good thank you :)
Regardless of camren: I’ve always loved the sun and moon theory, because there’s an endless dying romance to the story. I mean think about the longing for somebody, or something. The other version is we are whole and full of light despite it fading away sometimes. There’s light in the darkness. The moon died every day for the sun to shine.
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