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childotkw · 1 year

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Back with Sea Dragon Lucerys brainrot...

Also saw that you are calling it the salt in our blood au, haha nice.

After Jace's and possibly Joffrey's death (ur evil) I'd imagine Luke getting colder and losing his childlike innocence... almost like the restless freezing waves of the sea. Of course he would still be unhinged bc its Luke, cmon.

Considering how Jace died, these following events from f&b still happens i'd assume. "Though the attackers bypassed Dragonstone, no doubt believing that the ancient Targaryen stronghold was too strong to assault, they exacted a grievous toll on Driftmark. Spicetown was brutally sacked, the bodies of men, women, and children butchered in the streets and left as fodder for gulls and rats and carrion crows, its buildings burned. The town would never be rebuilt. High Tide was put to the torch as well. All the treasures the Sea Snake had brought back from the east were consumed by fire, his servants cut down as they tried to flee the flames. The Velaryon fleet lost almost a third of its strength. Thousands died. Yet none of these losses were felt so deeply as that of Jacaerys Velaryon, Prince of Dragonstone and heir to the Iron Throne."

So at this point Driftmark is pretty fucked, and i was thinking... maybe Lucerys and grandpa Corlys could go on an adventure together after the crown is won :D sailing around the Realm and finding treasures, discovering new cultures and learning from them, maybe surviving a few dangerous otherworldly creatures, krakens, wyrms, FUCKING SIRENS. The sirens trying to lure Luke and Corlys by mimicking their lovers' voice, and they only survive because while Corlys hears Rhaenys, Luke hears Aemond and he is taken aback. He has pushed away his feelings towards that man for the longest time (rightfully so) And when Corlys asks how Luke wasnt effected by the sirens he questions if he doesnt love Rhaena and Luke is forced to tell him his true feelings. And Corlys is like "i have already lost a son for this exact reason i am not going to lose another" and he is all supportive (and yes he does see him as his son rather than grandson bc he sees Laenor in him)

I can also imagine Aemond going "fuck it i need to find this mfs" taking vhagar and going after them thinking they died or something. Maybe he saves them from a fight or a hostage situation and both luke and corlys r all silent on vhagars back now knowing lukes feelings and aemonds like i just saved u tf is this

Then when they come back after a few months of being gone they r greeted by their family members with feasts and all that. They basically saved House Velaryon's future with the treasures they found and now they r the richest family in Westeros once again.

Maybe Aemond swears fealty to Luke as a protector bc hes enjoyed their lil adventure a bit too much and doesnt have anything better to do anyway. (he is free from baratheons bc he begged Rhaenyra to not make him marry the girl and Rhaenyra helped him get out of it) now he is just a second son of the late King Viserys' and has no inheritence. So he just tags along with the Velaryons

Hahaha thank you!

Losing Jace and Joff (I know I am but I live to hurt fictional characters and this would create delicious ✨drama✨) would absolutely have stolen the last remnants of Lucerys' innocence. For a good long while he'd fluctuate between desperate anger and cold, hard detachment.

Driftmark definitely still gets hit, and it's brutal. Lucerys' need to avenge his brother and his birthright burns very bright after that.

I also love your idea! I can see, after Rhaenyra is Queen and things are...tentatively chill once more, Corlys recognising that Lucerys (and him as well) needs time to process and heal. He'd be the one to suggest the two of them going off, for more 'practical, everyday experience' that Lucerys would need as Lord of the Tides. He'd come into his title on a wave of red, now he needs time to learn how to be a sea dragon in peace.

So the two of them, with Rhaenyra's blessing (and a bunch of conditions, like regular check-ins and having to return within a year or two), board Arrax and set off.

And I'm not sure about bringing merlings into it (I'd have to do more research into how they work in asoiaf), but the idea of Lucerys getting hit with a clue-by-four about his feelings for Aemond because of a fucking magical fish is hilarious. He'd be so offended and embarrassed that it literally took a mythical creature for him to realise what Rhaena had been hinting at all along.

But the idea of Corlys discovering and then accepting Lucerys completely and wholeheartedly because he doesn't ever want his heir to feel like Laenor had? That he never wants to drive Lucerys away, or dismiss his feelings, or call it a 'phase', as he had with his son? Pure art.

The inevitable reunion with Lucerys and Aemond would also be brilliant because Corlys just looks at Aemond for a moment then turns to Lucerys and is like "while not my first pick, I fully support your choice in partner, so long as you are happy" right in front of Aemond and Lucerys just closes his eyes in resignation because omg grandpa must you???

#anonymous #HOTD #the salt in our blood au #lucerys velaryon #corlys velaryon #aemond targaryen #lucemond #supportive grandpa corlys would be so delightful

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bohemian-nights · 6 months

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“He laughed . He actually laughed. Laena would not have thought anything of it had they been anywhere else, had it been any other time, about anyone else, but here, now, one this day, in front of everyone who mattered to them; this was wrong; even for him.”

Daemon is such an a**hole 🙄

“They would leave together. Hours would pass, mayhaps she would find herself giving into the temptation of a dreamless bout of sleep within them. There would be nothing else to entertain herself with except madness and cruel imaginings. When she awakened it would be to Rhaenyra sitting by her bed bouncing Aemon on her lap as she would tell her in a honey voice laced with venomous sting of her triumph. It is done Laena. We shall leave for Dragonstone on the morn.”

I wish that b*tch would. Vhagar will be back on the scene in less than a minute. Rhaenyra and Daemon would get a quick Dracarys.

“Daemon must have written back to Viserys for the next letter he received, which he let her read to him, was much warmer. You, Laena, and whatever children come from your union will always have a place in my court brother.”

I’m not sure Kings Landing is the absolute best place for Laena to be.

“Is he diseased?” Baela questioned. This time screwing up her nose and mouth. Dark eyes as wide as her grandmother's albeit with revulsion rather than shock. She did not even attempt to hide it."

🤣🤣🤣

"She had counted to thirty before she lost that regality. She tripped over her skirts when her foot caught on the bottom of her trail as she reached a step. Forgetting that her balance was not quite what it ought to be and her skirts too long. Daemon was too far away to catch her though he could surely see her. Probably cursing her silent command to stay. She would have fallen on her face if an olive hand had not reached out to grab her."

Sorry Laena but that’s Alicent’s man lol 🤭 and as I side note Criston is fine and I’m tired of people acting like he’s not.

“Laena had thought about leaning over their girls to place a kiss on the shadow of his broad chin, but grabbed the hand that had taken to stroking the back of Baela's locs, trying to lull their wild girl to sleep, and brought the back of it to her lips. Planting a kiss on each knuckle. I. Love.You. He knew that. He knew she was incapable of anything else. I'm. Sorry. That he knew was a lie, but he had not held it against her. Squeezing her hand, he mouthed the words over Baela's silver curls. I love you too, you minx.”

Aww I’m feeling the feels.

“Love, he loved her. Maybe not the way he loved Rhaenyra. Maybe never in that way, but was a part of him that loved her. That part of him that had chosen her when he had not had to.”

Laena darling, and I’m going to touch your hand when I say this, you don’t want to be loved by Daemon the way he “loves” Rhaenyra.

“Aegon and Helaena were plump,” Laena could see a glint of light in Alicent’s brown eyes and a hint of a smile when she spoke of her children as she bounced Aemon. “Chubby little cherubs. Daeron too. Aemond was my smallest. I used to spend hours just watching when he was a babe. Precious thing.” To that she did not know who she was referring to, but it mattered not.”

I want them to be friends 🥺

“Her body went stiff. Every last drop of blood drained from her body. All she could hear was a ringing in her ears. How she remained standing she did not know. Laena almost wished she was staring at the sea again. For drowning was preferable to having your heart ripped out from your chest.”

Sh*t just got real. You get a betrothal, you get a betrothal, and you get a betrothal lol. I can Baela and Rhaena siding with Jace and Luke on one hand because Rhaena wants a dragon (though they don’t know Laenor so I don’t they’d get as defensive in canon) on the other Aemond is Rhaena’s “betrothed” (well not officially but Aemond knows that) so I can’t imagine him still hitting her. Speaking of betrothals I think Aemond and Rhaena will get along fine but Baela and Aegon 🥴. It could either go very wrong or very well. As for Daemon if his a** comes in with Rhaenyra on behalf of Laena I’m asking for an annulment.

Everyone gets a betrothal 🤣 Yeah I’m debating on what side I’m going to have the girls on. Aemond knows about the betrothals, but Baela and Rhaena don’t and she does really want a dragon(and to prove herself). They may not have known Laenor, but he was still their uncle(and Rhaenys might’ve promised that once things had settled down she’d help Rhaena claim Seasmoke💀).

If I take it there(Aemond will not touch Rhaena, but he might push Baela) the fight definitely will be a minor bump in the road for these future love birds.

However, Baela and Aegon 🫠(that’s going to be a very bumpy ride).

#the dragons will clash #aegon is going to be like she’s crazy #and baela will be like he’s crazy and a drunk 🤣#what we may mend #my writing asks ✍🏽#love this commentary 😊

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moonlitgleek · 5 years

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How do you feel about Alicent Hightower? I used to feel some sympathy towards her, mostly because she's smarter than both Rhaenyra and her son, but she lost me with her cruel treatment of Aegon III in F&B. (Though tbh for someone who asked for peace twice, it felt OOC to have her be so petty and vengeful later on, it seemed that GRRM wanted to sideline her and couldn't find a better way to do so than turning her into a Hysterical Woman).

My feelings towards Alicent are complicated. Certainly, I’m not prone to thinking that a person who constantly refers to Rhaenyra as a whore, wishes for her death in childbed and lets her own husband rot while she plans a takeover is a good person. However, I’m somewhat bothered by how she gets discussed in fandom because more often than not, it’s Alicent’s desire to see her son succeed to the throne despite Viserys’ expressed wishes to the contrary that gets singled out as something to condemn. I get that it’s the root of a lot of Alicent’s actions thereafter, but of all the crappy things she did or said, wanting her son to be king is a weird thing to hold against her imo considering that any lady in her position would have had the same expectation. Alicent was not an outlier in either expecting or advocating for a son to come before a daughter of the same generation. It really did not matter who Viserys married; his wife was always going to expect her trueborn son to inherit ahead of his sister, though of course the way she went about it might have differed. Viserys I set up a a rather knotty succession debate then did nothing to resolve or mitigate it so a conflict over the throne on his death was always going to happen irrespective of the identity of his wife. It might or might not have been as bloody as the Dance of the Dragons, but it was assuredly happening.

That said, I disagree with your assessment of Alicent’s treatment of Aegon III being OOC. Alicent was not remotely a kind or a peaceful person by nature. I’m generally iffy on how much credit to give her for her peace offers considering she only proposed the idea of a Great Council when she was defeated and in Rhaenyra’s control - where was that willingness when she had control of King’s Landing after Viserys’ death and Rhaenyra’s loyalists were being thrown in the black cells and/or killed? The thing to note about Alicent’s peace offers is that her motives were purely personal; she tried to broker peace after the tide started turning towards the blacks and her children were in terrible danger.

Words of these plans [to kill Daeron the Daring and his dragon] soon reached the ears of the Dowager Queen, filling her with terror. Fearing for her sons, Queen Alicent went to the Iron Throne upon her knees, to plead for peace. This time the Queen in Chains put forth the notion that the realm might be divided; Rhaenyra would keep King’s Landing and the crownlands, the North, the Vale of Arryn, all the lands watered by the Trident, and the isles. To Aegon II would go the stormlands, the westerlands, and the Reach, to be ruled from Oldtown.

Rhaenyra rejected her stepmother’s proposal with scorn. “Your sons might have had places of honor at my court if they had kept faith,” Her Grace declared, “but they sought to rob me of my birthright, and the blood of my sweet sons is on their hands.“Bastard blood, shed at war,” Alicent replied. “My son’s sons were innocent boys, cruelly murdered. How many more must die to slake your thirst for vengeance?”

Alicent’s twisted logic aside, peace for her was explicitly tied to the safety of her own children, all of whom were in perilous positions at this point as far as she knew. But not only did Alicent dismiss the loss of Jace and Luke as inconsequential due to their bastardy, she deliberately misconstrued Luke’s death because Luke didn’t die at warbut was cruelly murdered by Aemond, and completely ignored young Viserys’ presumed death.Rhaenyra naturally rejected Alicent’s peace because why should she be interested in sparing her brothers’ lives when her brothers killed her sons? But Rhaenyra’s rejection of Alicent’s offer meant that the two factions continued to clash, and two of Alicent’s sons were killed by Rhaenyra’s supporters whereas Helaena committed suicide after a depressive episode suffered as a result of Daemon’s “a son for a son” vengeance. Alicent’s pleas for her sons’ lives were rebuffed and she ended up losing two of them as the third suffered permanent injuries. In that context, I find it logical that Alicent would be as uninterested in any scenario that spared Rhaenyra’s Aegon as Rhaenyra was in one that spared Alicent’s sons. Too, it is very in-character for Alicent to pursue vengeance; don’t forget that she had previously demanded that the 5-year-old Lucerys’ eye be put out as a punishment for him taking out Aemond’s eye, so the willingness to maim children as a form of vengeance and a statement wasn’t new to Alicent. The bad blood that turned this war into a circle of vengeance and violence long preceded Viserys I’s death.

I’d also disagree that Alicent’s vengeance was an attempt from GRRM to sideline her, simply because Alicent was not sidelined at this point. For all intents and purposes, she acted as a regent in her sons’s absence. She was the main political authority in King’s Landing prior to Aegon II’s return from Dragonstone. It was Alicent who negotiated the reclaiming of the Red Keep during the Moon of Madness. It was her who proclaimed a curfew, had the City Watch reformed and had the three pretender kings arrested. It was her who betrothed Aegon II to Cassandra Baratheon and accepted Corlys Velaryon’s fealty on Aegon’s behalf.It was her machinations, along with Larys Strong, that prevented Alyn Velaryon from attacking Aegon II on Dragonstone and succeeded in bringing him back to King’s Landing. Even after Aegon’s return, Alicent remained a power player in his court and a constant presence in his councils.

With his half-sister slain and her only surviving son a captive at his own court, King Aegon II might reasonably have expected the remaining opposition to his rule to melt away…and mayhaps it might have done so if His Grace had heeded Lord Velaryon’s counsel and issued a general pardon for all those lords and knights who had espoused the queen’s cause. Alas, the king was not of a forgiving mind. Urged on by his mother, the Queen Dowager Alicent, Aegon II was determined to exact vengeance upon those who had betrayed and deposed him.

Though years would need to pass before Morning grew large enough to be ridden to war, the news of her birth nonetheless was of great concern to the green council. If the rebels could flaunt a dragon and the loyalists could not, Queen Alicent pointed out, smallfolk might see their foes as more legitimate. “I need a dragon,” Aegon II said when he was told

“Your Grace,” the Sea Snake said, when the rump of the once proud green council had assembled, “you must surrender. The city cannot endure another sack. Save your people and save yourself. If you abdicate in favor of Prince Aegon, he will allow you to take the black and live out your life with honor on the Wall.”

“Will he?” King Aegon said. Munkun tells us he sounded hopeful.

His mother entertained no such hope. “You fed his mother to your dragon,” she reminded her son. “The boy saw it all.”The king turned to her desperately. “What would you have me do?”

“You have hostages,” the Queen Dowager replied. “Cut off one of the boy’s ears and send it to Lord Tully. Warn them he will lose another part for every mile they advance.”

“Yes,” Aegon II said. “Good. It shall be done.”

Alicent was not sidelined at all. The one decision she took that Aegon went against was agreeing to the betrothal between Princess Jaehaera and Aegon the Younger, and that can’t really be described as him going against her wishes because Alicent was negotiating in bad faith with Corlys Velaryon and had no intention of allowing Aegon to actually wed Jaehaera. Aegon listened to her in all else.

Finally, I wouldn’t characterize desiring vengeance as a sign of a hysterical woman, especially not in the context of the Dance where Martin had previously contrasted the reaction of men and women to the loss of a child, doubling down on his pattern of broken mothers in having both Rhaenyra and Helaena fall into depression and retreat from court in the aftermath of Luke and Jaehaerys’ death at the same time that Daemon and Aegon II swore vengeance. Because men get to act while women get to break. If there is a problem in Alicent’s characterization here, I’d say it is in her ultimate fate being an imprisonment where she “spent more time weeping than reading or sewing. One day she ripped all her clothing into pieces” which may be understandable in the context of the story but is also a part of a consistent problematic pattern in the narrative.

#asoiaf #asoiaf meta #alicent hightower #aegon ii targaryen #rhaenyra targaryen #viserys i targaryen #corlys velaryon #lucerys velaryon #jaehaera targaryen #aegon iii targaryen #helaena targaryen #fire and blood volume 1 #the dance of the dragons #Anon asks #ask box

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