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captain-crowfish · 8 months
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Drawing expressions and went into some sort of trance for 3 hours, I woke up, suddenly he is everywhere.
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dandansposts · 1 year
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I am intrigued by DID Vergil, do share
infodump below the cut i will try to cut it up correctly so it is readable.
i am like VIBRATING so here you Go anon
canonical facts!
both vergil and dante have some pretty obvious and pretty intense childhood trauma.
when wrenching himself into pieces cuz he has issues and problems, Not Only does vergil split a human and a demon half, he splits several other independent beings as well. these are explained away as nightmares or whatever in text, it's not super clear what they are, but they're manifestations of his trauma In Some Way
in visions of v theres an extra "nightmare" v doesn't pick up, but we aren't talking about that.
it's clear, i think, that the nightmares exist because he's trying to rid himself of weakness and fear is a very human weakness, but i honestly think it makes more sense looking at the character and all his associated parts thru the lens of DID.
lets get into it shall we
basic premise without all of my headcanons and nonsense is this: vergil has DID as a result of, yk, Childhood Trauma. 'urizen', v, griffon, shadow, and nightmare are all individual alters.
alter roles are reductionist and ignore each alters capacity for the individual, but they're helpful in terms of describibg what each alter does for the group, so i'll be using some here. i'm also going to get into origins of each alter according to me and how they work/don't work together as a person.
urizen
in my own writing i tend to split urizen further into vergil and nelo angelo, but the distinction isn't overly important. the main take away here is this is the alter who considers himself To Be Vergil. as in, this is the guy who IDs most closely with their body.
i like to further break that down and have vergil ID more closely with the way their human form looks (as much as he hates that), and nelo angelo identifying more with their demon form for elaborate worldbuildy reasons, but the takeaway is that this is the guy who looks in the mirror and goes "that's me". this is our power hungry little bastard who'd rather raise a giant demon tower or plant a huge horrible demon tree than be vulnerable. the motherfucker who would rather cleave himself into 5 than admit to being weak. this bitch. this horrible little man whom i like SOOOOO much.
once again in my writing i like to change stuff and the main thing i like to change is like after eva dies i send 8 year old vergil to hell for a decade, give or take (just for fun), and as a consequence of this and being in hell for so long both then and just in his life, he doesn't speak any human language very well. he's fluent, and he understands perfectly, his words just come out clunky and foreign
(not relevant, but i headcanon dante the same but opposite, where hes fluent in infernal but way more comfortable speaking human languages, and his infenal would come out super clunky. consequently as adults, they talk to each other in a super messed up mix of infernal and whatever human language they speak that is largely incomprehensible unless you speak both languages)
enough of my headcanons Next Alter
edit; i'm returning to this after most of my section about v; vergil considers the yamato to Be His more than it being a shared object; he feels he has some more claim to it than everyone else.
edit 2; vergil follows regular dmc lore and fully believes eva abandoned him
v
in terms of the DID ~*~experience~*~ v would be a common fronter if not a former host personality.
you'll have to forgive me here since i headcanon v as nonbinary so very aggressively that referring to them as "he" is physically painful. i will do this again later with shadow and nightmare. i am not sorry. v they/them.
v is the magic bitch. v's the one with the flair for demon magic. the one who at the very least came up with a lot of the weird silly tricks they all do with summoning swords and other things. they are far from the only one who uses their abilities, but they might add flourishes the others don't or experiment in ways the others aren't entirely comfortable with. like, vergil's moveset over the games stays basically the same minus a few things, but those few things, which tend to be little flourishes, would be largely stuff v came up with.
v also considers the book to be Theirs, rather than the entire system's. for more elaborate worldbuilding reasons, in my writing, v also considers nero to be Their Son rather than the whole system's son, or at least they feel they have some higher claim to him than everyone else, both of these things being a major source of strife.
as a departure from textual vergil, v has a much softer view of eva, and therefore has a much more concrete connection to their humanity than any other alter, hence v being the only human and only other proper humanoid besides urizen out of the 5 of them.
notably, when all in their body rather than cleaved in 2 by vergils special magic sword, v has bad posture. this is their main tell aside from the ease w/ which they speak human language. (sounds sort of academic and mispronounces words a lot as a result of having read but never spoken them)
griffon
now. this little bitch is my favorite and i am going to get SOOOOO into him. griffon's a protector of sorts, right, but he absolutely didn't start out that way.
according to me, he was, initially, an introject of dante. he's their brain flipping the absplute fuck out after they lost what was left of their family, and producing an internalized version of their twin to cope.
he's goofy, he deflects with humor, he bullies affectionately, these are traits he shares with dante in spades. there is definitely more, but those are the things that initially made me decide this.
as they grow up and mature and change and, y'know, find out firstly that dante is Alive, and griffon has to grapple with what is probably the worlds most fucked up identity crisis, he does very much eventually Become Griffon, as in, forms his own individual identity. why he decided to be a bird, idk, but i think that's mainly down to him just iding more as a demon and not really feeling even remotely human. identity is fluid and even more fucked up of you're a half demon with dissociative identity disorder, so we will cut him some slack.
he's primarily an emotional protector, and is and has always been primarily associated with v; v is significantly more emotionally vulnerable than vergil, who will just kill you if you inconvenience or upset him.
in their body, unless he's masking, he'd be very obvious. his posture is looser, he's more relaxed, and if i had to call any of them well adjusted, it'd be him.
shadow
shadow she/her because i fucking said so.
i don't have much to say about my friend the big kitty other than she's very much a physical protector and is extremely good at keeping her head in a tight spot. as for why she's a demonic cat that is also definitely not a cat, see griffon. same shit.
in their body, this would be her fronting in a desperate combat scenario in order to get out alive without anyone freaking out. with v while they're all separated, this manifests as her pretty much always being physical and acting as a mobility aid, since v's physically weak and genuinely just disabled.
i also think she's mostly or fully nonverbal and tends not to talk if she's stuck fronting. if she says anything, it's likely single words in human tongues or short sentences in infernal.
nightmare
nightmare is an it/its pronoun user if you ask me. i asked me.
it is also a physical protector in the same way shadow is, and is also largely nonverbal. i don't have much to say on it other than it's more inclined to look after vergil/nelo angelo than anyone else. as for the giant blob of goo features, see the other 2 non humans.
the way they interact with each other is the most interesting to me. i imagine they're aware of each other and have been at least since their time under mundus. how their internal communication skills are really depends on the day as it does for Us All, but as they get older and calmer and have space to process their trauma, they get better at it and for functional as individuals and as a single person.
your headcanon worldbuilding, since dmc doesn't have a ton to go off of, colors this as well.
example, in my writing, eva is always a witch, vergil always grows up in hell, the book of poetry is always a grimoire and i always include nelo angelo. vergil is always a trans man, and always asexual like that is just how i write him. shit like this colors everything from things about v to each of their individual relationships with nero and dante to their individual relationships with each other and etc.
as a fun little aside i'm going to talk about nelo angelo bc i like him so much i like him just a lot hes my blorbo from my dmc headcanons.
nelo angelo
when including him, i also include the tidbit that nightmare split largely because of the same trauma (mundus stuff) that causes angelo to split. angelo bears the brunt of the emotional and mental repurcussions of what happened when they were under mundus (nightmare has the memories but not the feelings; the code but not the software to run it.) consequently he's very reactive, very scared but very steely, and very dangerous. this isn't to say he's an evil alter, it's just to say that literally The Sight of dante can sometimes send him into a panic as he was conditioned to Kill Dante So Much and by god does this man have a fight response.
they all know trish because i said so, but to him, trish is *his* person, she would have been the only semi kind face he saw for *years* and i like to imagine them finding comfort and a sort of like. sibling kind of relationship in each other that is like the only good thing that happened thru the whole mundus ordeal.
however. my absolute FAVORITE things to write with angelo are about his recovery. as they get older, have their processing space, come to grips with the fact that they have family and friends who'll do anything for them, angelo gradually becomes less and less reactive and more and more the most chillest but least likely to take shit guy you've ever met. he's definitely gutted dante a few times but to be fucking frank, who hasn't, so no hard feelings there. honestly, out of all characters in DMC, i think recovery angelo becomes Thee Most emotionally stable. also i just like him so much.
there's soooo much more i could say especially wrt my trans vergil headcanon and how that relates to nero amd also to the system but u know what. we will leave it there. happy to go into that should anyone be curious but this is the most like... thought out DID vergil headcanon post ive ever made.
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