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#repeats them to sasuke and then applies that same logic to him as well
obihoe · 1 year
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thinking abt this screenshot of madara looking down on tobirama after attempting to take out his hurt over izuna's death on him .. but tobirama cannot die, he cannot feel pain and izuna is dead anyway so its not enough
#posts#madara#sorry i feel like ive said this exact thing on some post already a while ago .. but i came across this picture again and it brought up#some thoughts#this scene's like the only instance during the entire war arc where we get to see him display any emotion#smth other than lust for battle or excitement etc#we can actually see that even for him as free of emotion as he comes off most of the time#there's quite an amount of hurt for him at the source of it too#mdr also kills sasuke after this. first tries to avenge izn's death but then goes and stabs a stand-in of his right thru the heart#and he looks so unhappy w this afterwards#cuz he feels like he Has to doesnt want to kill him but has to#we also see him remember hsrm's backstab and this time it is not a romantic memory#contrary to the first time when he talks abt him to the 5 kage#here u can see that it did hurt him and he remembers every single word hsrm said to him ..#repeats them to sasuke and then applies that same logic to him as well#hsrm had to kill him for the village so now mdr for his version of peace. has to do the same thing as well#kill his own kin as a sacrifice to achieve what he wants#but also sfdgesfdfsd#just this interaction here w tbrm alone .. its so dissatisfying for him cuz like he wants do SOMETHING abt his grief over losing his#brother. but he cant. he cant even fuck up and hurt his killer anymore over it#its too late#he shouldve done that earlier but couldnt and now its too late#just like everything else is too late for him too. no way back anymore no way to reverse anything thats happened
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madara-fate · 3 years
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Naruto just learned Shadow clone because all it takes is forcing Chakra into it without any skill or control. Konohamaru learns Shadow clones at 11 years old as well, showing it’s not that difficult. Naruto just learned the Multi Shadow clone because Kurama gives him Big ass Chakra reserves.When Jiraiya trained him during the Chunin exams, Naruto spent the whole month summoning Tadpoles. In contrast, Sasuke in a month learned the Chidori, trained hard enough to equal Lee in speed and mastered his Taijutsu. He went from getting his ass beat by Weighted Lee to defeating a guy 5 Gates Lee was destroyed by. He was only able to learn Rasegan by using 3 hands and never mastered the Jutsu with 1. Therefore never really truly learned it the right way. 5 years up into the War arc he was still using extra hands to make a Rasengan so technically he didn’t learn it in a week nor 5 years. And again, Konohamaru shows that making a Rasegan is easy as long as you have 3 hands doing it. Naruto created Rasenshuiken (S Rank Jutsu) by having 1000’s of Shadow clones training for weeks getting decades of training done. He trained for decades, something the others didn’t have time to do. And still needed an extra Shadowclone to make it. 5 hands from decades of training aren’t impressive. He learns it because he has extra hands. Anyone could’ve learned both those Jutsu in the same amount of time if they had 3 to 6 hands. The Rasengan was stated to be Hard as AF but look at Konohamaru. With a Shadow clone he completed it. So if you want to make the Rasenshurken all it takes is more hands. Sasuke, on the other hand, created an S Rank Jutsu in just 3 years (Kirin) while training in other area’s.
lol, so now learning A rank techniques "isn't that difficult" according to you? Just because Naruto can do them, it means they're not that difficult now? So weak.
Konohamaru learns Shadow clones at 11 years old as well, showing it’s not that difficult. Naruto just learned the Multi Shadow clone because Kurama gives him Big ass Chakra reserves.
Who said anything about the regular shadow clones? And did you not read what I said? I said that every feat I previously mentioned was not dependent on Naruto's chakra reserves or on Kurama's aid. Naruto being able to do the Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu itself isn't because he had large amounts of chakra, because Kakashi can also do the technique, despite his chakra reserves being ordinary. Naruto can do it because he has the skill necessary to pull it off. Shadow Clone Jutsus have been his specialty ever since he graduated from the Academy. The large chakra reserves only means he can do it more often than others, it does not grant him the actual capability of performing the technique itself.
Naruto spent the whole month summoning Tadpoles. In contrast, Sasuke in a month learned the Chidori
And yet, Naruto was able to learn the Rasengan in a week, case closed. Why do you act as if his initial difficulty with the Summoning jutsu is proof of his overall lack of talent? It's such a stupid notion.
[Sasuke] went from getting his ass beat by Weighted Lee to defeating a guy 5 Gates Lee was destroyed by.
Sasuke didn't even beat Gaara, so that just shows how little credibility your words actually have, doesn't it?
He was only able to learn Rasegan by using 3 hands and never mastered the Jutsu with 1. Therefore never really truly learned it the right way. 5 years up into the War arc he was still using extra hands to make a Rasengan so technically he didn’t learn it in a week nor 5 years. And again, Konohamaru shows that making a Rasegan is easy as long as you have 3 hands doing it.
Again, your logic is so flawed it's almost unfathomable that you can't see it. Anon, if the Sannin were all in awe that Naruto managed to pull off the Rasengan (in a week, I will continue to stress this), then it's an extremely difficult technique to master, and no amount of your mental gymnastics will stop that from being true. Konohamaru being able to do the Rasengan doesn't suddenly make it an easy technique to perform. Any 12 year old kid managing to pull off an A rank technique, is extremely talented. And honestly, I can't believe you're actually clutching at straws so desperately, that you'd even try to insinuate that Naruto "technically didn't learn it" just because he needed clones to do it. Anon, nowhere does it say that it's a requirement for the user to perform the Rasengan with one hand. My god that's so utterly ridiculous. If someone can use the technique, it means they learned how to do it, Jesus Christ.
Naruto created Rasenshuiken (S Rank Jutsu) by having 1000’s of Shadow clones training for weeks getting decades of training done. He trained for decades, something the others didn’t have time to do. And still needed an extra Shadowclone to make it. 5 hands from decades of training aren’t impressive. He learns it because he has extra hands. Anyone could’ve learned both those Jutsu in the same amount of time if they had 3 to 6 hands.
Why do you keep on saying "anyone could have done this if...", "anyone could have done that if...", when you have no proof of this whatsoever? That's not an argument. Anyone could've learned anything if their circumstances were suited for it, but that doesn't mean the accomplishment of the person who's circumstances were fit for it should be diminished. Case in point since you obviously want to place Sasuke on a pedestal so much - Sasuke only managed to learn Lee's taijutsu in that short amount of time because he possessed the Sharingan, his circumstances were suited for him to accomplish that feat, because someone without the Sharingan wouldn't have been able to do it. But why should that lessen Sasuke's accomplishment? He still needed the skill and physical capabilities to pull off the taijutsu that he copied. The same thing applies here - Naruto still needed the skill and talent to be able to combine a change in chakra nature with a change in chakra form, something which Kakashi explicitly says requires "natural talent" to be able to pull off, so I love how you just completely gloss over that point because you can't say anything about it.
Not only that, but you're claiming that Naruto amassed "decades" worth of training experience, which is just yet another one of your extreme exaggerations. Naruto amassed 4800 hours of training experience, which equates to 200 days:
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That's not even a year, and you're here claiming that he trained for decades in another feeble attempt to downplay his accomplishment. Check your facts, because just like your earlier assertion regarding how Sasuke apparently defeated Gaara when he clearly didn't, this again just further proves how little credibility your words possess.
The Rasengan was stated to be Hard as AF but look at Konohamaru. With a Shadow clone he completed it. So if you want to make the Rasenshurken all it takes is more hands. Sasuke, on the other hand, created an S Rank Jutsu in just 3 years (Kirin) while training in other area’s.
The Rasengan was stated to be hard as fuck to do because it is hard as fuck to do. I'll repeat that just because Konohamaru also mastered it does not mean that it's an easy technique to perform, it just means that Konohamaru is also a talented shinobi. And no, it takes more than "more hands" to perform the RasenShuriken, as Kakashi says, it takes "incredible skill, natural talent, and intuition". When you have to blatantly ignore factual canon evidence to give your assertions more weight, that's when you know how truly flimsy your argument is. And that's not even mentioning how you conveniently opted to ignore the points about Naruto's mastery of Sage Mode and his Tailed Beast control, further showing the talent that he canonically possesses.
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365daysofsasuhina · 5 years
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[ 365 Days of SasuHina || Day Two Hundred Seventy-Five: In the Shade ] [ Uchiha Sasuke, Hyūga Hinata ] [ SasuHina, blood ] [ Verse: To Rule Them All ] [ AO3 Link ] 
It’s been several weeks since the attempt on Hinata’s life. The night her sworn protector - a knight of the house Uchiha - took a blade in her stead. Stopping the would-be assassin in the dark of her chambers, he let steel pierce his side to save her, having followed his instincts that despite the decade-old truce...something was amiss.
No one believed him...but he’d learned long ago to trust his gut.
Though deep, the wound wasn’t fatal, but still relieved him of his ability for several weeks as he was kept bound and stitched, the castle healer insisting he take time to let his body recuperate.
He, in turn, insisted he’d taken a vow to protect her every waking moment. The healer rebuked that he could hardly do so while wounded, and would heal faster - and thus return to her side - if he had a little patience.
“Honestly, you sort are all the same,” she’d gently chided, changing his bandages yet again. “Too eager to get yourself into another fight. Your sword and your shield are not your only tools, knight. So too is your body a part of your arsenal. Would you go into battle with a cracked blade, or a splintered shield? If not...you must apply the same logic to your form. Allow it time to mend...so that it may serve you, and not falter. Her ladyship is still guarded. Worry not.”
“How can I not worry when it was my suspicion and act alone that saved her?” he’d grunted, teeth clenching at the sting of air against the parted flesh. “Those with her now refused to believe me…”
“Well, I’m certain they’ll believe you now, after what you did. You saved the princess’ life, you did. No one’s about to forget that any time soon, nor doubt you. All you need now is a little patience, and a little mending...and you’ll be back where you belong.”
Still unsatisfied, Sasuke merely sighed, allowing her to work unfettered. The orders to rest were...irksome, but he knew she was right. His body is, indeed, his most valuable asset. Returning to Hinata when still unwhole would only mean he’d be less able to defend her.
So...he’s been exercising patience as best he can.
Today, he’s finally allowed outside, the healer warning him to keep his bandages unsoiled and his movement to a minimum. So, he’s settled on a bench in the princess’ private garden, in the shade of a wide-crowned tree. The leaves are beginning to turn, a few dancing in gentle breezes along the path. Autumn...Summer is over, and soon Winter will grip the kingdom. And Hinata has yet to acquiesce to a husband. Surely by Spring, Hiashi will finally lose his patience. It’s been nearly a year since she was declared suitable to be courted...and with Sasuke’s help, she’s evaded her suitors.
But the last - tied to the coup - has set the entire castle on edge. Hiashi has, for the moment, cancelled all other meetings with prospective suitors until his daughter’s knight is healed, and she better protected. That, at least, will buy them a little more time.
Staring up into the amber and crimson leaves, Sasuke lets his eyes close as a wind weaves through his hair. He has, by now, realized that his actions to shelter Hinata from her suitors is no longer purely to follow her wishes. He dreads seeing her wed, because...well, because he loves her, as foolish as that may be. Though Hinata alluded to a knight garnering the honor to befit marrying a princess, he’s unsure if he could ever do so to a point Hiashi would approve of. And even now, he still doubts if Hinata’s attachment has grown as strong as his own.
...and he doesn’t want to shatter what they have: an absolute trust. If he were open with what he felt, and she did not feel the same...surely it would change things between them forever.
So, he keeps such thoughts to himself, despite mulling them over and over again when there’s quiet, such as now.
Fate, however, isn’t keen to leave him alone for too long.
“So...released you, have they?”
Declining his head and opening his eyes, there’s a momentary flutter to his chest as Hinata enters the garden. “...for the moment. The healer insists I’m not quite ready for duty, yet. But I had to get some fresh air, or I’d run mad.”
That earns a soft laugh. “I’m sure...you’re unused to being so cooped up. But I’m happy to hear you’re healing well. I know she was rather concerned at the depth of the wound, but...she works miracles, that woman.” Reaching him, Hinata takes a dainty seat at his side. “...I’ve not had a chance to thank you properly.”
“There’s nothing to thank, my lady. I did as I am sworn to do, and am honored to do. You know I would repeat my actions in a heartbeat. My life is yours.”
Expression unreadable, Hinata’s eyes flicker between his own, as though...looking for something. “...it’s been rather lonely without you. The other guards they’ve given me, well...they aren’t you. In almost any form, really. I...miss our talks.”
“...as do I. But I’ll be back at your side soon. We need only be patient.”
“...very well.”
For a time, the pair lapse into a companionable silence: something they’ve had much of during the past year they’ve known one another. But something, he can tell, is weighing on her mind.
“...are you all right, my lady?”
Staring out into the rest of the garden, she doesn’t at first reply. But then pale eyes turn to see him, betraying the worry she feels. “...I have been...unsettled as of late.”
“Why is that?”
“...at first, I thought it the change after so long: not having you by my side. And while that has been true...there’s something else. Something...that was not, at first, clear to me. But…” Her gaze drops to her lap, forlorn. “...I have known, since I met you, that you would lay down your life for mine. It was something I had to accept from the beginning. And yet...these past months, you have become such a staple part of my life. Like...an extension of my arm. I feel as though, were I to lose you...I would forever be missing a part of myself.”
Watching her quietly, Sasuke has no reply.
“...when you...countered that assassin, in my quarters...I was scared. But...not the way I thought I would be. Not for myself. When I saw you were wounded - when I saw your blood free of your veins where it belongs - I was so afraid. Afraid that I was to lose you. And in that moment, I rebelled against the idea so thoroughly, so completely...I realized I would never forgive myself if you did exchange your life for mine.”
“...but my lady, that is my purpose. It would be my honor to -”
“Please…!”
Her interjection is so terse, so full of refusal, that he stops mid-word. All at once, she’s tensed and shaking, expression pinched with emotion.
“...please. I...I know what you swore. I know that you would uphold your oath without a second thought, just as you did that night. But Sasuke, I…” Looking to him, she startles him with tears beaded along her lids. “...I can no longer abide by it. I realize now that I...I care for you too much to see you risk your life for mine. Because I...I think…” The words seem to weigh on her tongue, held for a moment in hesitation. “...I think I may be in love with you.”
Shock slackens his features, staring as she lowers her eyes back to the skirts of her gown. She…?
“...I realize I may be speaking out of turn. But...never in my life have I been able to trust someone as I have you. Confide in someone. Felt...listened to, and seen…! To you, I am not simply a princess. Not just a bloodline, a pretty face, a...a vessel for an heir! I am a person, unique and my own. And you...you see that. I know you do, after all we’ve exchanged. And to me...that is worth more than any mountain of gold, any pristine castle, any status…”
She takes a moment to sigh, shoulders wilting. “...perhaps I am a fool grasping at something I...do not understand. If I am alone in this, then...please, tell me swiftly, and I will never again speak of it. But I could not bear that within myself a moment longer. Not when you may be taken from me, one way or another. Forgive me if this leaves you unsettled. Know that...you may reject me, and face no consequence. For I could not -”
“Hinata…”
Her words cease on a dime, not daring to look to him until his hand guides her face to see him. But rather than discomfort or rejection...she sees a soft and weary smile.
“...I will admit, I do not think myself worthy of you. Nor, I imagine, would anyone else. But...you are not alone in your feelings. I fear mine have festered for longer than yours, with your eyes so newly opened. I too feared them misplaced, a knight daring to feel affection for a princess. But you put my heart at ease, knowing I am not the only of us feeling this way. All that is left to fear...is what will happen should we admit it to anyone else.”
Though bright-eyed at his own confession, Hinata wilts at his last words. “...I don’t know. I...I can’t know what my father would think. If I am to be honest, I had hoped your actions would lift you in his eyes...has he spoken to you?”
“No...to you?”
“...not yet. I believe the incident still has him unsettled. Perhaps...we could speak to him. But I fear, should he reject the notion, it would mean him parting us forever, finding such an attachment inappropriate if we were not instead permitted to wed. I do not know what to do…”
Sighing softly, Sasuke tries to think. “...for now...perhaps it is best we remain silent. Your father is clearly still shaken, and...I am still not quite myself. I may speak to my brother and seek his wisdom. He may have an inkling of what we should do, and would not betray us.”
“...you are right. Then...I will try to be patient.”
“As will I. If you could, send him to me when he has a moment. I know the court keeps him busy.”
“I’m sure he would make time for his brother.” Somber hesitation pulls at her features. “...I hope we can find a way.”
“As do I. But, until then...I am still your knight, and you still my princess. We must act as such. And I will not sully your honor by courting you unapproved. For now...we must restrain ourselves.”
“...I agree. Even if it will test my patience as never before.”
That earns a soft laugh. “A queen must be well-versed. Consider it an exercise in restraint, my lady.”
Hinata gives a hint of a pout. “...for you, I will do it.”
“...then so shall I.”
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      (This is a sequel to days 67, 109, 212, 220, and 236!)      Finally some more of the princess and her knight verse! I've missed this one, it's one of my favorites lol      Poor Sasuke, still healing up after that nasty stab wound...but at least he's pulling through all right. He just needs to be patient...both of them, actually. Will Hiashi actually accept their feelings and allow them to wed...? Only one way to find out, I suppose...and we'll have to wait for a good prompt to get there x3 Sorryyy~      Anywho, it's very late, I'm very tired, and I'd best sign off. Thanks for reading!
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