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#since i mentioned how i'm only in the fnaf fandom for the books i'd also like to mention that i liked the batim novel better than the games
crystalkitty1220 · 1 year
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Gonna go on a bit of a rant here but a while ago when the children horror genre became a thing (mainly in roblox) I wasn’t really a fan because while yes, I wasn’t the target audience, I still felt like the horror wouldn’t be existent to me even if I was the person the developers intended to be playing it
And also what the fuck is a children horror game, the point of horror is that it’s scary, it’s nightmare fuel, it’s not intended for younger audiences and frankly I don’t think a 5 year old needs to experience it at that point in their life, it’s one of the many things that can wait till their older
So when games started taking the route of children/cute game gone horror, I kinda liked it, it was nice seeing what people came up with and they felt different
And then too many people did it, and it became repetitive and I kinda let go of that genre, but then I realized something
It’s not it’s repetitive, no
It’s that it’s falling back into the genre of children horror games, that’s where it’s going wrong
We escaped from the horror games for children phase, but then it came back in the form of cute game gone scary, and we just didn’t realize until the release of Poppy Playtime
And to add onto that, there’s also the fact that most indie horror games now have merch that is intended for children, from the art style all the way to the point where the default sizing options for clothing are children sizes
And this is where the horror industry is going wrong, no one comes up with anything anymore, they just copy what’s trending, and then when we do get something new, it just falls back into the pit of children horror games, which is why I’m grateful for the existence of choo choo Charles, because while the idea obviously has some aspects from other games, it didn’t fall into the children horror genre and while yes, it has its issues and obviously isn’t the best thing to exist, it feels like a breath of fresh air and a small release from what we’ve had to work with for the last 3 or so years
Anyways thanks for coming to my TedTalk
Very nice TedTalk
I'm not a huge fan of childrens' horror games myself, at least in the horror aspect. I will admit that I like Poppy Playtime because it reminds me of the mystery "who will be the next villain? who is this person from the poster, will we meet them?" from my batim days, but I don't think anything about it is scary and it's clearly just meant to pull in the edgy children who have been exposed to the internet too much. Everything about the merch is atrocious, from the target market to how the dolls look. And it's not hard to pinpoint exactly where the developers got inspiration from, as they're the people who made many of those minecraft fan animations for batim and fnaf songs, and I believe were also behind the channel Animation Sins. It's pretty easy to tell exactly where they got their ideas and what they're thinking, which isn't really supposed to be the goal for developers of a lore-based game. At least it's more of a horror game than security breach is, I guess.
Choo choo charles definitely breaks the recent mold, and I respect it for that, despite not really being a fan of that style of horror. The original batim was probably my favorite ever horror game, as it had a story and was constantly moving but could also actually scare the player at times. When it comes to fnaf: the games are mid; I'm here for the books; I'll go back to the games if glitchtrap returns; sun and moon are pretty cool. Probably gonna forget poppy playtime exists after the whole thing is released. Hello neighbor peaked in alpha 3, baldi's is hilarious but that's my only thought on it, and ddlc is the only game to pull off "horror disguised as cute and innocent" correctly and it feels wrong mentioning it alongside all these other games because it's a completely different style.
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purplemninja · 26 days
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Little Nightmares hot takes
[Feel free to comment or reblog with hot takes of your own]
Someone on the LN subreddit asked for people's hot takes and I commented a bunch of spicy ones that I have, which I will copy and paste here (though the last one will have something added to it):
1- People who say that Mono is an uwu-softboi or portray him as such are awful and are doing him a disservice. Like, you can not look at his battle against the Thin Man and pretend that he's a pacifist, not to mention the other kills he made in-game. His fight against the Thin Man and moving the tower towards himself is his most badass moment and these rougher edges to him make him a much more interesting character. So by taking that away and acting like he wouldn't hurt a fly really doesn't do Mono's character and arc any favours, it just ruins it, so people have seriously got to stop thinking that he's a 'pwecious widdle angel' when he clearly isn't, especially when it hurts his character and story.
2- I'm pretty sure that people are expecting this one but the fandom needs to lay off Six, and way the fandom makes it so that Six must either be totally good or totally bad and is not allowed to be morally grey (in between) is so irritating. Just like with Mono, taking away Six's rough edges or smooth ones hurt her character and make her way less interesting. Also no surprise that I say this but the way that the anti-Six people treat her is so awful.
3- In addition to what I said about the golden child Mono stans in number 1, the way that the FNAF books treat Henry is very much like how the fandom treats Mono - only his suffering matters, screw everyone else. Or some go even stupider and treat all of the characters in LN except Six sort of in the same way that the FNAF books treat Henry, basically like "Six and her suffering? She should shut up and suck it up" or even going as far to say that she deserves her suffering. While just about all the other characters (Mono most especially) have their suffering dealt with a gentle hand.
4- I'm pretty sure this is ghost-pepper level spicy but it's so dumb that the fandom claims that Roger is nice. Like bruh, he literally has blood stains on his vest, chases kids, you can hear one that he catches whimpering as he takes them away, wraps them up to be taken to the kitchen, and there's a bloody guillotine in vicinity. Just because he doesn't kill Six or RK on-screen means he's nice? What?
5- They should've made a LN2 DLC where you play the game as Six and get to see her perspective of everything that happened, especially that scene. Make them step out of their Mono/Thin Man tunnel vision and focus on Six and her suffering too for a change instead of making Mono's overshadow everything.
6- Six being the Lady would be disappointing AF and lazy that they're recycling Mono's fate. I'd be better off if Six was the next Lady and not the same one encountered in LN1, but I still prefer a different way for her story to go (or maybe make my new depressing interpretation of her ending (where she's not the lady but is still stranded at sea with no innocence or humanity left, making everything she went through all be for nothing in the end) the actual ending for her).
Plus, you're telling me that the remaining staff on the Maw (The Twin Chefs) were like "Oh, this kid that we tried to murder earlier is our boss now" and Six is like "Oh, I'm not going to kill these guys who tried to add me to the menu earlier. Plus I'll hire an exact copy of the Janitor and get a replacement for the one and only mirror I was able to fight the Lady with since it broke and try to board it up in the same room that I found it in. Yeah, it tooootaaaally would prevent another me from being able to get it in the exact same way that I did".
Not only that but they also put a child in charge of dealing with other business-related stuff on the Maw like shipments of coal and vegetables (or maybe someone else did that)? So stupid.
7- Runaway Kid's name is not seven!
8- The ridiculous double standards of self defence. Why are Mono and Runaway Kid allowed to defend themselves from monsters trying to kill them but Six isn't?
Mono - Smashes a bunch of bullies, pulls the trigger on the gun to shoot the Hunter, beats some living hands to death, probably burns the Doctor alive, kills some viewers by electrocuting them to death or luring them off of a ledge, and probably broke every bone in Thin Man's body before Thanos Snapping him.
Fandom - Eh.
RK - Electrocutes the Granny to death and disintegrates the Shadow Kids with his torch.
Fandom - Whatever
Six- Helps Mono shoot the same Hunter that kidnapped her and locked her in his basement (and she didn't take the gun off the hooks, Mono did), kills one bully after being kidnapped, tortured and hung upside down by them for who knows how long (which will eventually kill you), cuts off Roger's arms with a door when she was cornered, eats a rat when there's no other food nearby, eats a Nome instead of a sausage that she knows is made of human flesh, eats the Lady when there's no other food anywhere, and kills some guests who are reaching over to try and eat her on her way out of the Maw.
Fandom - Monster.
Now, I'm not saying that what Six did was good or what the boys did was evil, but people have to stop acting like it's okay for one character to kill to save their own lives but not the other.
9- This stems more from a certain artist that I won't name to avoid people going to harass them, but on top of the self defence standards, people also have to stop with the double standards of bad things happening to a character due to another character's actions. What I mean with this is that while yes, Mono had no way of knowing that Thin Man was behind the door and getting Six kidnapped by him was a mistake, that does not, however, undo the fact that Six still got kidnapped or that her kidnapping is not that big a deal all because it was an accident on Mono's part. Especially when people won't give Six the same leniency when it comes to Mono becoming the Thin Man. Six had no way of knowing that Mono would survive the fall, let alone him being stuck in a room on a chair for decades and turning into the Thin Man, yet that is a big deal despite her not knowing but her kidnapping isn't because it's also an accident?
And lastly,
10- Another ghost-pepper level spicy but AUs where Six pulls Mono up yet all the suffering she has to go through before that is 100% the same as in-game makes her a way, waaaayyyy better person than Mono. This goes double for AUs where Six realises that he's the Thin Man (you know, her kidnapper and tormentor) but decides to pull him up anyway. Like, Mono as Thin Man decides to kidnap and torture an innocent version of Six, cursing her with the hunger and making the child Mono have to torture her to save her, but Six decides to pull him up despite all of the pain he put her through. Even more so when she realises that he is her kidnapper. That makes her a much better person that him. Though it also makes her kind of spineless. I'm not saying that she should drop him, but in-game the player can abuse Six in some ways (running when holding her hand, which makes her stumble, throwing stuff at her, bash her with weapons (even if they don't do anything to her) getting her to fall off of stuff (yes, she respawns or teleports, but still), blinding her with the torch) but not once does Six retaliate until Mono attacks the music box, making her a bit of a doormat TBH. Yet some people in the fandom portray Mono as the doormat instead, it's like the fandom goes out of its way to get Mono and Six as backwards as possible.
Additionally, fan content where Mono doesn't apologise for getting Six kidnapped in the first place, or torturing her during his fight against her monster self makes him a huge jerk. Like, this girl has to suffer because of his actions (unintentional, perhaps. But as I said, that doesn't make the pain Six suffered go away or not matter) and he doesn't even have the decency to at least say sorry for the hurt he caused her? It pleases me whenever there's fan content where he does apologise, because not being sorry for hurting Six makes him a huge jerk.
It's long, but those are my hot takes.
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