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[queer-ragnelle]

yo, how old was gawaine when he was knighted. I can’t find it online and don’t have access to any of my books rn :(

Hi!

It is unclear and dependent on the text. Based on the wording in the Vulgate, Post Vulgate, and Le Morte d'Arthur, I'd say he's over eighteen in the Vulgate and no younger than eighteen in Post and Le Morte. Here are the receipts, what do you think? (I put too much thought into this lol)

In The Book of Merlin of the Vulgate, Gawainet, his brothers, and all their cousins are referred to as "youths."

While this is not very specific, there is the differentiation of Yvain/Yvonet being too young to knight and is referred to as a squire instead of a lord like Gawainet's brothers and cousin Galescalain.

In The Merlin Continuation of the Post Vulgate, the circumstance of Gawain's knighting is changed. His brothers are not knighted with him and now Gaheriet is his squire. Still though, no specifics, he and his companions are referred to in the same vague terms.

If Gawain were a "boy" or "child," I think the text would have said so, as in the very next passage in Post, "young boy" Tor is stated to be fifteen.

Now in Le Morte d'Arthur by Sir Thomas Malory, he changed Tor's age to eighteen.

Forthwithal there came a poor man into the court, and brought with him a fair young man of eighteen years of age riding upon a lean mare; and the poor man asked all men that he met, Where shall I find King Arthur?

So in Post, fifteen year old Tor is a boy, but in Le Morte, eighteen year old Tor is man. My best guess would be that Vulgate Gawainet is over eighteen when he is knighted, as he is the eldest of the little group he leads with years enough for them all to be knighted, excepting squire Yvonet. But in Post and Le Morte, he could be eighteen on the nose but no younger, as he is referred to differently than Tor while Gaheriet/Gaheris is still young enough to squire for him.

Hope that helps!

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[a-system-of-nerds]

Alright. Tell me of your retelling

Well, I’ve decided to pull bits and pieces that I like from other stories and tweak some things as it suits me. Here’s a list of things:

- Mordred will be more of a hero, as he was characterized in some of the earliest stories.

- For the Arthur-Guenevere-Launcelot love triangle, I’m making Guenevere the bad guy.

- Sir Ector fought with Aurelius Ambrosius to help put him back on the throne.

- Arthur’s first wife will be Lyonors, the daughter of Earl Sanam. A few years into their marriage, she bears him a son, named Borre. A year or so after that, she dies, leaving Arthur to struggle with raising his son and being king. At the urging of the older, more pretentious knights, he gets engaged to Guenevere. This causes a lot of other things.

- Laurel will be the cousin of Lynette and Lyonesse.

- Uther is “friends” with Merlin. It starts with Uther just pretending to be friends with him, needing his powers, but then it becomes genuine. However, he’s possessive of him, needing him to be his friend.

- Sir Bors has Asperger syndrome.

- The order of the Orkney siblings goes like this: Gawain, Soredamors, Agravaine and Clarissant (twins), Gaheris, Gareth, and Mordred. (There may be one more sibling added, Elayne.)

- Sir Gawain’s squire, Yvonet, is incredibly loyal to him, and, even after Yvonet becomes a knight himself, if it comes down to it, he will act as Gawain’s squire rather than a knight.

- Dinadan had a lover who was a Leanan Sidhe, an Irish vampire who gives inspiration to poets and musicians. Usually, a Leanan Sidhe shares with their lovers their intelligence, magic, and creativity, and when the Leanan Sidhe leaves, their lover dies from grief. The Leanan Sidhe then took their lover’s body to their lair and puts their blood in a cauldron, which is the source of their inspiration and beauty. So, when Dinadan ran away from home, he travelled a bit and met one. He was in a relationship with her, but he discovered the cauldron. His admiration turned to disgust as he learned what she was. He managed to get away and never went back to Ireland.

- Guenevere was the reason Dinadan died. She wanted to make Launcelot believe in her, so she told him that Dinadan was going to die. He didn’t believe her, but she used her powers to possess Agravaine, who was on a quest with Dinadan to end the previously mentioned Leanan Sidhe’s rein in Ireland. They were heading back when Agravaine attacked the already injured Dinadan. When Agravine awoke from the possession, he rushed Dinadan back to Camelot, where he died in Launcelot’s arms.

That’s about all I can think of for now. Thanks for asking; have a great day!

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