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#they babygirlified Snow
reneeub · 5 months
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I watched The Ballad of Songbird and Snakes I think I understand better why are so many people thirsting over Coriolanus and making x readers with him
Of course he's a troubled handsome white boy which makes him a perfect character to swoon over, but I think the movie made him hotter than the book did (not only with casting)
The first time we see (present day) Coriolanus Snow is when he's almost naked, therefore vulnerable, we can think we truly see him (and everybody interested can appreciate a hot guy)
He's nice and charismatic, knows what and when to say, we don't really suspect that anything about him is evil. Of course we like him
But we have Lucy Gray; she's also beautiful and charismatic, yet I haven't seen any posts like that about her
They are both canonically charismatic performers, this is what makes them a good duo and makes the Capitol audience root for their victory. But the movie sets us up to find one hotter than another.
The first time we see Lucy Gray Baird is at the Reaping. She has a small moment of tryumph when she attacks Mayfair with the snake (like in the book) but after that she's being humiliated, the mayor hits her and she lays on the ground for a few moments.
In the book when she starts singing on the stage, she makes a show and her behavior is described as lovely, and she ends the performance saying that her friends call her Lucy Gray and she hopes the audience will call her that too!! She's a performer and she knows how to make crowds like her!!
In the movie she lets herself be angry, she screams the lyrics and ends with an insulting 'you can kiss my ass' that doesn't even sound like it's part of the song anymore. One of Coriolanus' classmates even asks if she's mentally unstable
Of course she's rightfully angry, she's just been unfairly chosen to die. But the choice that the movie makes to show that anger way more than the book makes her... unpalatable? Like, it surely leaves us with a whole different impression of her and while I support women's wrongs and imperfections and all of that, I think it's not that, this is just one of many small changes that makes us as the viewers be more on Snow's side than Lucy Gray's.
The other reason the odds seem to really be in Coryo's favor is the ending scene when he tries to kill Lucy Gray. I felt like it was longer than in the book and gave way more focus to the moment when he finds the orange scarf and the snake bites him; like this is when the change in him happens, suggesting it's Lucy Gray's fault because she 'made the first move' or drawn the first blood, because he was only looking for her before that, but after the really long moment when he seats with that scarf everything changes and only then Coriolanus makes the decision that she has to die. In the book he was thinking that she needs to die before that moment.
TLDR I feel like the movie makes the audience like Coriolanus more than Lucy Gray and it feels kind of vain and I really didn't like it
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glitter50000 · 1 year
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I hope you enjoy reading ABOSAS!! I am ready to write essays on Snow. I am also ready to fist fight anyone who tries to babygirlify the young version of him… as usual 🤺👊
Thanks! I’m having a lot of fun with it and I haven’t even finished it yet. (Spoilers below if you haven’t read it just in case)
-First off there’s the environment, like it’s already bad reading on how fucked up the districts are treated from Katniss’s POV because she’s from the districts herself but reading it from The Capitol’s perspective is just so jarring. Like it just hit me reading it on how many of the Capitol view the districts as like playthings or circus animals. Coriolanus was waiting for Lucy and the others and he saw a train come by and from the design he thinks that’s just cargo until he hears a cough from it. They literally put the tributes in a monkey house in the zoo. -Also not to be like “eat the rich” because obviously it was very bad for the citizens in the Capitol when they got bombed by the rebels as it shows that with war no one really wins and everyone gets caught in the crossfire, but its something about how Coriolanus’s grandma had apparently never touched a stove in her life and he had to learn cause their cook died in the war. How the Capitol got so desperate during that time some resorted to cannibalism. How Coriolanus still ate cabbage on fine china. I dunno just little stuff that makes me realized like “oh these ppl are so rich” you know??
-Oh my god and Coriolanus is so fun to read. I mean I knew going in that he probably wasn’t going to be a good person but I was on the first page and I’m like “damn he’s cold.” Like just how he’s always thinking of how to best present himself to other people. The things like taking a swig of posca to get rid of the cabbage breath, how he was thankful for the rose on his shirt to get rid of the potato and marigold smell. Him pretending to not realize what kind of cuffs he had on his shirt and saying how it “reminded him of a maid’s bathroom” giving the image that he is someone who still is rich enough to have a maid when really they were stolen from someone else’s maid bathroom and they actually aren’t that rich at all. Just all the little things are so fun to me. Also his inner monologue is so entertaining sometimes I was thinking “damn he’s such a bitch” like I’m gonna highlight some of my favorite parts here:
•He thought of people putting a price on her. With her long, pointed nose and skinny body, Tigris was no great beauty, but she had a sweetness, a vulnerability that invited abuse. She would find takers, if she had a mind to. The idea made him feel sick and helpless and, consequently, disgusted with himself.
•Sejanus had arrived on the school playground ten years ago, a shy, sensitive boy cautiously surveying the other children with a pair of soulful brown eyes much too large for his strained face. When word had gotten out that he’d come from the districts, Coriolanus’s first impulse had been to join his classmates’ campaign to make the new kid’s life a living hell. On further reflection, he’d ignored him. If the other Capitol children took this to mean that baiting the district brat was beneath him, Sejanus took it as decency. Neither take was quite accurate, but both reinforced the image of Coriolanus as a class act.
•“That’s a fine polish job,” Coriolanus replied. Sejanus tensed at the implication that he was, what, a suck-up? A lackey? Coriolanus let it build a moment before he diffused it. “I should know. I do all Satyria’s wine goblets.”
 Sejanus relaxed at that. “Really?”
 “No, not really. But only because she hasn’t thought of it,” said Coriolanus, seesawing between disdain and camaraderie.
• Coriolanus tried to tamp down the panic rising inside him. A new law. Instating a tax on his apartment. For how much? As it was, they barely eked out a living on Tigris’s pittance, the tiny military pension his grandmother received for her husband’s service to Panem, and his own dependent benefits as the child of a slain war hero, which would cease on graduation. If they couldn’t pay the taxes, would they lose the apartment? It was all they had. Selling the place would be of no help; he knew his grandmother had borrowed every cent on it she could. If they sold, there would be next to nothing left. They would have to move to some obscure neighborhood and join the grimy ranks of everyday citizens, without status, without influence, without dignity. The disgrace would kill his grandmother. It would be kinder to toss her out the window of the penthouse. At least that would be quick.
  “You all right?” Sejanus peered at him, puzzled. “You just went white as a sheet.”
  Coriolanus regained his composure. “I think it’s the posca. Turns my stomach.”
  “Yeah,” Sejanus agreed. “Ma was always forcing it down me during the war.”
  Ma? Was Coriolanus’s place about to be usurped by someone who referred to his mother as “Ma”? The cabbage and posca threatened to make a reappearance. He took a deep breath and forced his stomach to hang on to it, resenting Sejanus more than he had since the well-fed district boy with the cloddish accent first wandered up to him, clutching a bag of gumdrops.
(I was gonna highlight more but it was gonna get so long lol)
-See but there’s also moments where like we do get humanizing moments and I like the balance. Like when he misses his mom and still has her powder compact, when he realized that Lucy probably wouldn’t see her family ever again, how he felt uncomfortable hearing Sejanus hate being a mentor and the hunger games cause Coriolanus reveled in this position. I dunno stuff like that I haven’t finished it yet though
-Also when Coriolanus whispered “don’t cry” quietly to Lucy and then caught himself I was like “uh oh :)” like that probably isn’t going to end well
- I know I haven’t finished it yet but Sejanus is the best boy please don’t argue with me on this
Anyway this book is very good and i’m excited for the movie!!
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alisaint · 5 months
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i love all ur posts on snowjanus omg i could hear u talk about them forever.
omg! thank you so much, anon! that's so kind of you to say. 🥹🫶 i've loved snowjanus, both as a ship (romantic & platonic) and separate characters, for a while now and i've been waiting for the movie to drop in hopes that more enthusiasts would roll in, so i've got a lot of pent-up thoughts about them lol. i can't write fics or make art, but i *can* ramble and rant like my life depends on it (as you can already see). i've got an essay about their friendship and the importance of sejanus in snow's life in my drafts and plenty of little headcanons that i plan on posting soon, too. and i'd love to hear your snowjanus thoughts, if you ever feel like sharing! :) if you've loved my posts thus far then i'm sure i'd love your ideas, too. 💙
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I don't know the lore at all but I have to say I think the new hunger games movie looks kind of compelling
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whitedemon-ladydeath · 5 months
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I Get that Coriolanus Snow is quite literally a horrible person. however I'm also very tired of ppl dogging on Real People who like his character or 'stan' him or whatever. at the end of the day, the dude is fictional and Suzanne Collins writes him very well and he's SO interesting. don't yall antis make me babygirlify him like I did the darkling out of spite
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danthropologie · 1 year
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now that daniel is back in red bull and since scotty is also a red bull athlete, I need a brand video where scotty takes daniel to the mountains and tries to teach him how to snowboard. I feel like daniel would be miserable but also that it would be really funny content for us to watch, I need it.
please 😭 the combination of daniel being absolutely fucking miserable about the cold and snow but still wanting to peacock for scotty...he'd be a wreck. plus if we learned anything from that clip of them jumping into the river in the montana no brakes episode, daniel WILL babygirlify himself and play up his hesitations in order to be manhandled into submission
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I think it's more insidious to babygirlify roman roy than it is to want to have crazy sex with president snow
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