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the-vegetarian-artist · 4 months

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Asking you about your ska troll concept! They look so cool and I would love to learn more about them

@shadow-ray4 thank you for asking, genuinely was positive that no one would ask 😅😣 but I am HAPPY to share! To start here are the full refs I've done so far and explain as much of the concept as I've developed in my brain lmaooo (ALL MAJOR DEETS undercut cause its gonna be LONG)

@goldendaydna also helped with this and lowkey a concept we are semi working out since her sona Golden Tempo is an Urbano Troll (a recently named concept lol)

Ska Trolls are Big, Bright, and BOLD. Together, these elements create an energetic, highly danceable, highly vibe-able troll genre. They also explode into confetti and confections when excited or surprised. Dont worry they pop back up as if nothing even happened leaving a pile of candy and crepe paper on the ground. (Ska trolls are super popular with the kids.) They practically live for the music, known for dancing for several days straight with hardly a rhyme or reason to stop.

*Like even the smallest of surprises just make em POP! (Bonus Branch doodle cause why not??)

Adara, my sona, is a 4th Generation Ska Troll (her father being a 3rd Gen while her mama is a punk rock troll) so TECHNICALLY shes Ska-punk, but she still has the appearance of your standard Ska Troll so it's more a music specific.

Her great great grandparents being a reggae leaning funk troll and a rocksteady leaning funk troll who formed The Underground after being seemingly left behind along with other alt/subgenres of the main 6 kingdoms when they split. A place for alternative trolls like herself and her friends could live and PARTY HARD without micro judgments against their music. It's a haven for other trolls who feel they dont quite fit a specific genre or even one at all, but also HELLA secluded from the rest of the Trolls so they look different and SOUND different. (Cave acoustics and all) The surface likely gets trimmers and even earthquakes from their raging parties. (I'm still fleshing this out but I have this piece of "concept art")

*Its literally a bioluminescent shroom town. Like glowing mushroom homes, food, ect- glow worms on the cave ceiling like stars in a night sky. All the various alternative genre of trolls have like a glowy eye thing that allows them to just see naturally in the dark too-

*these were some posters I took heavy color influence from for Adara's pallet (I know they arent all ska, but punk, reggae, and rocksteady aesthetics were an addition)

Obviously I took most inspo from pinatas, party/confetti poppers, and the sorts mainly because the funk trolls poop...well. baked goods and I wanted to play off that but lean into the crazy evolution the trolls have canonically in the universe that foam at the mouth for 👀 🤲 But I wanted to make sure her colors and patterns gave off not just Funk influence, but also micro subculture influences that are within The Underground. (This including but not not limited to, how closely Ska Trolls were to the Urbano Trolls communities within The Underground)

*Exchanged tassels and stringy fur textures for more paper textures. Like literally walking, talking, breathing pinatas fr

*Queen Essence I love yuuuu

They are bigger than the average Funk troll and have very similar features to them, but texture and color wise are very different. They much more vibrant and staturated. Giving a mix of felt and crepe paper. They have tails as sortve as an evolutionary trait but also it gives maximum party mode as it can hold objects and act as an extra hand. Their ears are also longer and slimmer, making it harder for them to lift or perk up so they stay droopy unlike their funk counterparts. They are all naturals at brass instruments (mainly trumpet) and ALWAYS have a hop in their step.

*edit if the pics keep messing up... imma have to just remake the post 😭

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icharchivist · 2 years

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Considering what happening with remake. What think new in Crisis Core 👀

(COMPLETELY FORGOT TO REPLY SORRY DLKFJDF)

And oh man.

from what i could understand so far the Crisis Core's "remake" is more like a remaster where they just retook all the animations and everything and just did a graphism makeover. if so, it's possible they won't actually change much to the game so it's not too much work.

But if they do add things, i think it won't be like the Remake in the sense that, the Remake deviates from the Original Game/is canonically an alternative timeline and the changes happening to it are set up as weird deviation from the story.

I think it'll be near impossible to do it for CC because this "deviated plotline" is meant to happen in the Remake timeline and i don't see them really come back to the CC timeline and change things around. So at least i don't think they'll change anything major, unlike the remake. Unless they want to explore on the "alternative timeline moment" we see in the Remake, regarding [REDACTED]'s death

But if they add things in general, just like, more scenes, more quests?

I know what i want but i can't be certain Square would follow me through it.

(rambled, also includes spoilers for Crisis Core's game, not just the ending, under the cut)

What i want personally is them to put in the scenes they wrote and cut for CC because the support of the PSP couldn't handle a longer game than what they did. They mentioned cutting a lot of Zack & Cloud scenes specifically for this reason (because we clearly needed another Loveless monologue rather than seeing those two being friends, obviously) and i just want them in game.

Another thing personally that i'd love is a revamping of the side quests we can do on the mission tab, especially if it's to give them the weight they actually deserve.

Those missions are easily ignorable when you progress and they honestly drop vague hints at character's depths near the end of their mission tree and in my opinion this is criminal. Like, there's a whole mission tree that is spread out through the whole game where Zack is asked to hunt down Wutai's rebels, so, rebels from a civilization Zack helped destroy and colonize as he was still fed Shinra's propaganda and didn't realize how wrong he was.

By the end of this mission tree, near the end of the game when you unlock it, Zack becomes more and more reticent into doing those missions and it ends with a scene with a Wutai's rebel noticing Zack doesn't kill them, and realizing also that Zack is having doubts about Shinra. At the time this mission unlock this is the first time we see Zack expresses that he's disatisfied with Shinra and the part he's made to play, and imo, this whole scene justifies his whole "Shinra is a den of monsters, don't go there" to Cloud in a whole different level.

Because if you don't do the sidequest, it's just Zack mentioning it about the experiments that happened around Project G/S and everything that triggers it, and like, that's all sweet and nice, but that concerns 3 people and a tank of failed experiments. So the way he goes on afterward about himself being a human weapon meant to obey blindly comes out of nowhere, and while SOLDIERS do get some experiments done on there, it feels incomplete. and imo, this completeness comes from having finished this mission tree and knowing Zack includes himself as a monster not only because of the experiments made on him by a shady corporation he believed in, but because he sees himself as a monster for his own involvement in the war.

There's also the whole mission tree with Yuffie that echos this sentiment, since he basically indulges her out of the building guilt he feels for destroying her country, which again, is a hard one to finish.

There's others mission tree with similar interesting lore building that could be explored even more fullfront in the remake (like the fact Zack unknowingly helped Reeves build Deepground without Reeves even realizing he was doing just that as he was told it was a project to help people, or the fact one of the tree involves Zack having to take down the Original Avalanche, which the Remake already did weird things with, so might as well actually explore all of this). But especially when it comes to Wutai i really want this plot to come full front and not be locked in a throw away line at the end of a tedious mission tree most of us ignored.

So yeah basically: Revamping the side quests so that they're accessible, required even, and give them the depth they were hinted into having to start with and dig on that.

On the side of Revamping: Revamping the Wheel system and the memories/adding memories to the wheel AND/OR actually show the memories in game.

In the game there's this whole roulette System where Zack can get random buff or power during the fight. Those powers especially are determined by character portaits put in a slot machine, and depending on which portraits you allign, you get a power up from this character (ex: 3 Aerith will give you a full health restore as well as invicibility for a bit). During those, as the slots rolls, sometimes the game interrupts it to show you various memories Zack have of those people. Some training missions with Angeal, some dates with Aerith, runs up with Cloud ect.... there's only a few of them, they're not voiced in CC and they're in very bad quality, but they also drop some lore in them (from good things like the unique way Sephiroth used to treat Zack, or some i'm less fan off like implying Aerith's pink design is due to her waiting Zack back home).

I say: make more, make them voiced, make them pretty. Revamping them.

Other things i'd either ask for or could see Square do:

Expend on the material you have. Expend on Genesis's backstory in ways that are actually impactful and not just the last 10mins before fighting him for the last time in random journal entries please.

Also expend on Deepground since the Remake's DLC also did it and like. If anything has to expend on Deepground it SHOULD be CC since Genesis is literally introduced in DoC because of Deepground. and the only thing we have in CC about it is the fact Genesis gets taken away at the end of CC and promises to come back and it's like heyo you were introduced because of Deepground can you ACTUALLY explore what it means and not just have it be a throwaway line. Like in DoC his scene was really just "wow i wonder what's up with this guy and his connection to Deepground" and CC only answered the first part of this question, never the second one lmao. (that said they might explore that in the Remake instead to explore what was happening in Deepground with Genesis between the time he was taken to it in CC and the time he comes out of it in DoC).

I'm also begging them to fix the Nibelheim incident and not have Genesis be the trigger for Sephiroth's spiral. I'm honestly a "Genesis is an okay character i don't mind him" apologist but i do really hate his involvement in this scene retconing it in ways that removes Sephiroth of his agency in his own downfall.

I want more time with Angeal, i want more scenes in general to flesh out the world. I want sidequests about the fanclubs that last forever.

And oh my goD i almost forgot but i waNT MORE CISSNEI!!!! AND KUNSEL BUT ESPECIALLY CISSNEI!!!

Cissnei is a character i love and her last scene in CC is her wanting to find Zack and hints on perhaps wanting to betray the Turks for him, and "i need to find him so i can tell him my real name", and then we've never heard of her ever again. If they're not going to put her in the remake i beg them to expend on her in CC.

for Kunsel it's just for me because i love the guy and people usually barely know who he is unless you combed the game and read every single email this guy sent you. He's namedropped in the remake too in a scene that filled me with Glee, and i would love people who esp got into ff7 with the remake to get into the new CC and see Kunsel and UNDERSTAND why the CC-hardcore people were so happy about him being here. I fear that if Kunsel is just done exactly like in CC some people might completely overlook him, which is already the case of the 90% of the fanbase who aren't unhealthily obsessed with CC lmao

Also they can expend on the Luxiere storyline just so we all really feel how disgusting it is so i'm not the only person who goes "if i see Luxiere it's on fucking sight"

If they can/want to explore more i would love it, especially with the Tseng's plotline, since the remake did a good job at showing how he's torn, i really wish people to see how he was when he was younger and more hopeful in a way.

But yeah tbh i don't expect more than a 1:1 remaster with just prettier designs (tho idk, the trailer is objectively pretty but i find it kind of charmless...? The colors are so dull and the models feel so perfectly polished in way that i find almost uncanny. It's not like the graphisms of CC aged "well" but oof some scenes just felt wrong. But i'm someone who played maybe 1k hours of CC in the past 15years, i'm not an objective judge here).

But if they do add more, i want them to add back what they had to cut and expend on the half done ideas that were done in CC.

I genuinely don't want them to try to do like the remake and be ~meta~ and absolutely try to connect with the continuity of the remake. I'm coming to term with the remake being its own story as long as i remind myself it's not a remake, it's an alternative timeline that is taking a whole different route, but if they force a CC Remaster to do the same i think i'll start getting annoyed.

Kinda getting tired of companies taking stuff we're nostalgic about and then do them with themes of "isn't it BAD that you're nostalgic about them" like idk dude you're the one making money on making us nostalgic and then telling us it's bad. And that's kind of the irritation i have with the remake atm and i kind of don't want this cynism to get into the CC remaster.

OH AND SPEAKING OF, one thing i'm REALLY WORRIED they might "change" is specifically linked to the Wutai plotline. The trailers already showed scenes from Wutai in it, and if they don't change anything, whatever, but i'm genuinely terrified they might try to "whitewash" Zack's crimes as Soldier. Because they did that with Avalanche in the Remake (constantly bringing up that the deaths are totally made by Shinra you guys! Avalanche is totally not responsible for eventually killing people in their quests guys!). Zack is a war criminal, albeit you can't forget he was a teen brainwashed into doing this bidding and when he realized with horror his involvement in all of this he saw himself as a monster and it's why by the end of the game he has to rethink his own definition of being a hero. Zack's arc in CC is subtle but is there and the subtext is that Zack is to be considered a war criminal who had to realize the horrors of his actions and redeem himself in some way, if even just by having Cloud carrying his legacy as he would undo everything Shinra had Zack do. But after what happened to Avalanche (which is already making me dread so bad on what will happen to any conversation about the morally greyness of Avalanche in later events, which is supposed to especially impact Barret's and Reeves's arc) i am genuinely dreading them trying to have Zack's crimes be less so than they are in CC or somehow even less addressed than in CC (which, would be so much considering CC does keep it buried to start with).

Do NOT whitewash my war criminal he's my little mew mew and the person i am today is because of him i WILL yell if you change him.

But also more in general i wonder if we'll get development drama out of it too. The original CC was mostly developped by Tabata, who was a newcomer at the time, and aided with two of the biggest story developers from the OG: Nomura (General Director) and Nojima (Specifically the writer of Cloud's backstory and the Zack's portions). But Kitase, the third big one (responsible mostly for everything surrounding Sephiroth) was noticeably absent as he mentioned hating working with Nomura and he originally hated the love Zack got.

But nowadays, to consider, is that i don't think Tabata is working at square anymore? He was in charge of the 15th FF, and it was so surrounded by controversies that were all put on Tabata's head that i don't even know if he'd be trusted with something like that again. Not to mention Nomura has beef with him because of what happened on the 15th so i doubt he'd want to work back with him, or worse, he might try to address what Tabata left on purpose just to rearrange things like he wants. Nomura has a tendency to do just that after all and Tabata's fingerprints are all over CC, it would be hilarious to see Nomura try to both erase them and pull a Nomura. And finally, nowadays Kitase is making efforts to work with Nomura on the remake and has mentioned understanding the impact Zack had on the fans, so the question is, will Kitase join the project that made Zack this popular because now he mellowed or is his beef still getting in the way?

if we get a 1:1 remaster, none of this matter, but if we get changes put into it, there's definitely going some ego clashes with the producting room and i both want to watch the trainwreck AND want to cry because this trainwreck is on a game that's precious to me damnit.

So idk, i guess that's what i think would happen: wishlist/what would realistically be added: expending on the source material in the ways i mentioned. Things that might happen: ego clashes from the devs trying to either try to do like they did with the remake, or trying to undo Tabata's original work, or worse, trying to lessen the wrongs of our protagonists.

Either way it's going to be a trip and a half. We'll see when we get there...

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