#unpopular asoiaf opinions TM

[janiedean]

asoiaf for the meme thing :)

ALL OF THE QUESTIONS? ALL OF THE QUESTIONS. *cracks knuckles* beware: cersei fans pls skip this post it was named salty asks and I’m not trying to sound nicer as I’d try to be usually

What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get? see the crackship question for an appropriate answer to this since out of the ships that actually are canon I do *get* why they’re a thing

Are there any popular fandom OTPs you only BroTP? jon/sansa, any stark*cest tbh

Have you ever unfollowed someone over a fandom opinion? in asoiaf? yesterday I unfollowed someone because I realized they changed their blog title to an anti jon/sansa thing (WHY DON’T SHIT ON OTHERS’S SHIPS) and on top of that they hated jaime and at some point made a post dissing him in the tags and then basically wishing brienne ended up with hyle and NO THANK YOU

Do you have a NoTP in your fandom? Are they a popular OTP? t/ramsay, l/annincest and sansa/marg, t/ramsay is like 50% of what theon fans are into so I guess it’s popular but I don’t mind since the fans are chill and tag everything, l/annincest isn’t as popular as it could be and I honestly hope it keeps on declining because I’m petty and salty and the more time passes the less I can stand it, sansa/marg is sadly very popular and it’s half the reason why I can’t read a lot of t/hrobb stuff around because it’s the sideship and I can’t stomach it for reasons related to how obnoxious the shippers were during s3

Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you? in asoiaf? no but the part of sansa fandom who in s5/6 decided that whichever character shared a screen with her (from jon to theon to brienne) had to be dissed on principle was putting up an admirable effort to ruin the character for me

Has fandom ever made you enjoy a pairing you previously hated? *thinks* .... nah, but the t/hramsay fandom is a+ and has done wonders in not making me see it even if I stalk the theon tag which means I tolerate it a lot more than I used to

Is there anything you used to like but can’t stand now? the show

Have you received anon hate? What about? *thinks* meh someone once sent me hate because I was arguing theon didn’t owe the starks anything and then there was the slew of j*aime/cersei anons a couple years ago who kept on sending asks like ‘he can’t be with brienne because she’s too ugly’

Most disliked character(s)? Why? cersei. good lord I guess she’s interesting for what she is but the only kind of *horrible people* I enjoy reading are *competent* horrible people and not only she’s incompetent, out of her mind and so self-absorbed she can’t even be an efficient villain, but like the fact that she’s an abusive narcisist asshole who fandom likes to present as a FEMINIST MODEL before declaring that she and jaime MUST BE THE SAME PERSON SO HE HAS TO BE AN ASSHOLE doesn’t help, also I find her povs boring af and I’m not interested in her head at all, and cherry on top anyone who laughs about catelyn going insane when she saw robb die in front of her is dead to me as anything. also she has the most fucking obnoxious subfandom in this fandom and she’s basically everything I detest in a) a person, b) a fictional character, so. yeah. hahaha. years ago it’d have been ramsay but the ramsay fandom is a LOT less horrid than hers, so.

Most disliked arc? Why? dany’s adwd arc, because it was too long and too much filler and I slept through about 70% of it like I honest to god don’t remember half of what happened. 

Is there an unpopular character you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why? THEON GREYJOY because he’s the objectively best written and conceived character in there never mind the most original one grrm’s ever come up with and a delicious deconstruction of everything he sets to deconstruct and he has the best identity arc ever and I’m a sucker for identity arcs and fandom hates him sooooo *sigh*

Is there an unpopular arc that you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why? every time I hear brienne’s chapters are boring I want to weep and bang my head against the wall because they’re in my top three asoiaf povs and like it was the first time I ever related to a fictional character because of things we had in common and tbh I thought it was exquisitely done and the exploration of post-war westeros was a+ and I loved everything about it

Unpopular opinion about XXX character? I don’t have a character so I’m just gonna pick one I have an unpopular opinion about hmmm I don’t think bran’s chapters are boring and I don’t hate jorah

Unpopular opinion about your fandom? oh god idk about the whole fandom but let’s just say that for how much I bitch about it, it’ 100% better than ANY other fandom around rn 

Unpopular opinion about the manga/show? the SHOW? lol, if I say I don’t like 90% of what they choose it’s not UNPOPULAR anymore I guess? idk I think yara’s a terrible character and has nothing to do with asha but everyone seems to love her so

If you could change anything in the show, what would you change? LOL I’d reinstate jeyne westerling instead of that horrid talisa stuff and then I’d put winterfell back where it belonged as in with jeyne poole and theon being the main character talking about MAIN STUFF, I’d get someone to inform theon that ramsay died, I’d have killed ramsay through jon beheading him and I’D HAVE SCRAPPED WITH FIRE THAT RIDICULOUS ENDING OF S5 WHERE THEY KILLED SHIREEN SO THEN THEY COULD MAKE BRIENNE KILL STANNIS IN THE MOST OOC THING I EVER SAW IN THAT SHOW sigh ah and jon*dany wouldn’t be canon by now I guess and lady stoneheart would have been a thing

Instead of XYZ happening, I would have made ABC happen… .... yeah right instead of talisa I’d have had jeyne, instead of sansa and theon I’d have had jeyne and theon and jaime would have dumped cersei properly two seasons ago

Does not shipping something ‘popular’ mean you’re in denial and/or biased? no, but harping at people who ship something popular and not canon telling them they’re in denial/biased is really fucking irksome

What is the one thing you hate most about your fandom? sorry I can’t pick ONE. on the same level: *book readers* who obviously haven’t read the entire thing, people who think jaime is the same person as cersei, whoever in the l/annincest fandom sends the monthly anons telling jb shippers how biased they are and that no one gives a fuck about jon connington. ah, and that people still think theon betrayed *the starks*

What is the purest ship in the fandom? jon/sam

What are your thoughts on crack ships? listen I enjoy crack ships myself but I hate it when some become more popular than actual sensed ships when they’re a thing because of aesthetics and I REALLY hate that in this fandom a lot of crack ships are more popular than ships that make sense or are canon (see: jaime/sansa - WHY IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE - vs jon/sam or jonc/rhaegar, or the fact that rhaegar/HARRY POTTER has more effective fics than jonc/rhaegar, or jaime/sansa probably having more effective fics than jon/ygritte since the latter is always a sideship or IN THE PAST and if you take the dany/jon and sansa/jon out of the ao3 search you get... 300 maybe, and actually add sam/anyone in the list of ships that don’t get following HMMM GUESS WHY) that said jonc/the blackfish is the crackship of the century and I’ll go down with it (and I enjoy a lot of others ie jon/asha XDD)

Popular character you hate? if she counts as popular, cersei. otherwise dany’s not my fave but I don’t hate her or anything I just don’t like her that much. ah no wait show!margaery like I honestly don’t get what’s so special about marg period

Unpopular character you love? THEON

Would you recommend XXX to a friend? Why or why not? of course I’d recommend asoiaf to people I do love it XD

How would you end XXX/Would you change the ending of XXX? it’s not ended already but I want jon ALONE on the throne, dany back in essos, the other starks in winterfell, theon getting a break and jaime and brienne being ridiculously happy on tarth (I KNOW IMPROBABLE IDC)

Most shippable character? def. jon like I ship him with a bunch of people too bad none of them are sansa or dany #hahahahahaha 

Least shippable character? idk out of people I actually ship with anyone period def. brienne like if she’s not with jaime or he’s not involved I really don’t see her with others (tho I’ll admit to watching the tormund/brienne crack vids because they’re amusing), also meh arya because I only ship her and gendry? 

WOW I COULD MAKE IT XD

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[martellen]

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1. What do you think the dynamic between Tywin, Joanna and Aerys actually was?

we know that tywin and aerys were friends as growing up. i think that aerys inviting tywin to serve as hand was the beginning of the end of their relationship. aerys started to become jealous of tywin’s reputation. i also think he took jaime into the kingsguard to robb tywin of his true heir, and things only worsened since then. as for joanna, i don’t think she was in a willing affair with aerys, as some people speculate and i hate the rape theories, to me those theories only exist so fan fave tyrion can have special targ blood™. i don’t know what the dynamic between joanna and aerys exactly was though.

2. An AU scenario you desperately wanted to happen?

i wanted the queenmaker plot to succeed when i was reading it for the first time, but thinking of it now perhaps it wouldn’t go as planned. i also wanted elia and the kids to turn out safe somehow.

3. An arc you wish had gone differently.

catelyn’s. i wish she wasn’t at the red wedding and therefore stayed alive as catelyn rather than lady stoneheart, plus we would still have her as a pov. i still like the lady stoneheart story though.

4. One favourite character from each House, and why?

• house martell - arianne, i love how she doesn’t accept being set aside and fight for her rights, her dynamics with her family and her confidence.

• house lannister - jaime, his story is one of my favorites in the books. i don’t think he’s on a full redemption arc, he surely has changed but it’s more like we start to get to see his point of view and inner thoughts. his conflicts were a joy to explore, and he is one of the most complex characters of the series.

• house stark - sansa, i love how she still remains faithful in the world despite what she’s going through. most of us(including myself) would lose hope if we have gone through even half of what she has gone through, but she chooses to see the beauty of the world.

• house tully - catelyn, i wish we got more of her as a pov. she was one of the most well written and realistic characters. i can’t stand the negativity towards her just because she wasn’t kissing jon’s feet.

• house targaryen - rhaella, so little is known about her, but i already find her interesting. i believe we can say she was kind and warmhearted, considering she embraced rhaenys when aerys humiliated her. she would have a good relationship with her grandchildren had they stayed alive.

• house baratheon - shireen, i will start killing things if her fate turns out to be like in the show. she’s already seeing disappointment from her mother and from time to time her father, and being sacrificed by them would be the last straw. i liked her relationship with davos and stannis so far, she deserves some happiness and peace. i have a feeling that her greyscale will be important in twow.

• house tyrell - margaery, i like her; she’s intelligent and ambitious. i believe she is trying to make the best out of the situation her father put her in. she surely isn’t as innocent and altruistic as sansa sees her, but she’s not how cersei views her either.

5. The one part of your favourite characters arc (past or present) that hurts you a lot? 

elia and her children’s fate hurts me a lot. i’m very defensive over them, no woman or child deserves this, no matter what kind of a person they might be.

6. Which of the pre-AGoT ladies are you most fascinated with? Why?

elia martell. i know we have only like two sentences about her and know so little of her, but i’m very protective over her. the way she is set aside both in asoiaf and in fandom hurts me.

7. An otherwise good character that you have a pet peeve with. What is that pet peeve?

i like olenna tyrell, but i can’t stand her homophobic and racist comments.

8. The worst thing your favourite character has done? Why do you think he/she did that?

for jaime, it is pushing bran and being ready to kill arya. i don’t think he had enough time before pushing bran to chew on what might happen afterwards. i think it was a basic instinct that the boy should be silenced. killing arya was what cersei wanted, she asked of him to do so because of what arya has done to joffrey, though that doesn’t excuse jaime since he’s a grown man and should take responsibility for his actions.

9. If you had to change one event/arc pre-Robert’s Rebellion, what would it have been?

i would erase rhaegar and elia’s whole marriage, therefore at least some losses of robert’s rebellion could be avoided and elia would be safe at home with her family.

10. Your favourite line uttered or thought by any character?

it’s this one by jaime, “how much can a crown be worth, when a crow can dine upon a king?”. one of the best lines in the books and i think it is a defining quote of ‘a feast for crows’.

my questions:

1. which character do you identify with the most and why?

2. a character you have an unpopular opinion about, and what is that opinion?

3. a character you think is underrated/overrated and why?

4. a very popular theory treated as canon that you have your doubts or don’t like the idea of it?

5. something done on the show that you strongly wish turns out not to be book canon?

6. what would make you defend your least favorite character?

7. which are your favorite and least favorite houses and why?

8. a storyline or character you wish grrm has written differently?

9. your favorite dynamic between two characters? (romantic or not)

10. if there was to come out new prequels/sequels/spinoffs what would you like them to be about?

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[medievalcat]

🔥 the Greyjoys?

OHHH i have so many unpopular opinions 4 them lol. I’m just sticking w unpopular opinions of them and not the ironborn plot as a whole because thats a whole new can of disc horse

I don’t understand why ppl think the “rusted hinge” thing is ambiguous, like at all. it was always clear what it is referring to imo and I’m not even necessarily saying that grrm handled it perfectly but more that I genuinely don’t understand what else it could have been referring to. also Aeron is such a good and interesting character and idg why ppl put him in the “shitty uncles” category along w the other two including his rapist

I feel like most of them are more interesting and complex ppl/characters than are usually given credit for even if people aren’t like “they suck” ppl don’t often look at them in complex terms for various reasons. like I think Asha is way more of a deep character than ppl really see but she doesn’t put it all out there in her interactions w other people or even in her own thoughts so that gets seen as unemotional which gets seen as “just there to be there for the action” and a Strong female  Character tm (Im…so tired of that phrase)

all of this being said I am not entirely sure why Victarion was needed as a narrator like I’ve seen people say his purpose narratively is to show the futility and unsustainability of the Old Way but like…thats pretty obvious already lol

narrative needz moar Alannys

I think they’re only “aesthetically” Vikings like I don’t think they’re really intended to be a deep parallel politically to viking societies like as I say all the time  Asoiaf isn’t really Literally medieval and is more based on GRRMs beliefs about contemporary era history. I guess the Ireland parallel makes slightly more sense? but even then idk

I sincerely think the narrative makes more sense when u don’t interpret either Asha or Theon as heterosexual

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