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Rewatching In My Time of Dying
Welcome to "Do You Think Sam Knows 'Light As a Feather, Stiff As a Board' Too?: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog" with Lor and Mace!
 Up today, s2,e1: In My Time of Dying
 All three Winchesters experience their own Supernatural cold open when they are rushed to the hospital after that crazy-surprise crash at the end of last season. Sam and John are superficially banged up, but Dean is in a coma and the predicted outcome isn't great. He spends most of the episode out of body, trying to beat the reaper who's after him. Meanwhile Sam and John butt heads, as per usual, and also as per usual, John goes off to do what he sees as The Hero Bit without telling Sam anything about it. We witness our first Winchester-thinking-a-deal-with-a-demon-is-the-best-option, and it has the same kind of outcome it always does: other Winchesters are pissed and sad and in the end the deal doesn't really do much good. Awesome, John. Great job, as always. But for now, Dean is saved and safe, although more emotional damage has been dealt. Sigh
 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
 [and we begin:]
 Lor:
oooo, it's gonna be the Dean wandering around in jimjams, I mean hospital clothes, episode
 Mace:
 Ha! yep
Lor:
(I watched an S11 ep last night where Sam references Dean and John out after vamps when they were kids and we just watched that ep where John said he thought vamps were extinct and I was more annoyed by that inconsistency than is reasonable)
 Mace:
 (I would be too)
 Lor:
oh, my beat up boys
(not you, John)
 Mace:
ha!
 poor Sammy
 Lor:
yeah
god LOOK AT HIM
 Mace:
 yeah
 Lor:
(I will forgive the nonsense of a car accident victim being dressed like that in the hospital because it looks so good)
 Mace:
 how many times are the boys the subject of the cold open, I wonder? Not very often, I think?
 Lor:
yeah, not often
and... hmm. Every one I can THINK of involves one or both of them being dead or we're worried they are
 Mace:
 that makes sense, since the cold opens are all about people dying
 Lor:
oh. YEP. they are
wow, I never... thought of that
 Mace:
taps forehead
always thinkin'. that's me
 Lor:
LOLOL
YES
 Mace:
 YOU TELL HIM SAMMY
 Lor:
oh JEEZ. hold me back from going RIGHT through the TV and strangling John
LIAR
"well you sure know something"
 Mace:
yep
I love Sammy saving the impala for Dean
 Lor:
YES
he understands that Baby is Dean. UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE
 Mace:
 YUP
 Lor:
"I gave you everything I ever had" OH DEAN
 Mace:
"what the hell kind of father are you?"
There you go, Dean. THAT'S the question
 Lor:
hold on to that feeling, baby.
 Mace:
 banged up and angry Sam is sending me someplace
 Lor:
yyyep
"Dean is dying and you have a plan"
omg, Dean is pissed at John and heartbroken and he's STILL trying to get between John and Sam
 Mace:
DO NOT PUT THAT ON SAMMY, JOHN
JFC
 Lor:
RIGHT?!
"now what?"
 Mace:
 HAHAHA
 Lor:
poor Dean. he's having a day
 Mace:
 yep. Sammy too
 Lor:
yep
 Mace:
 but honestly, that's sort of the show
 Lor:
lol. it IS
aw, listen to him rattling off lore
 Mace:
 he pays attention when Sammy talks. Adorable
 Lor:
LOLOLOLOLOL
hey now
LIAR
 Mace:
 YUP
 Lor:
"you can either roll over and die or you can fight"
 Mace:
 "you always have a choice” FUCK 327
 Lor:
RIGHT?
 Mace:
 (327? I can't remember the number)
 Lor:
it's like when they wrote the finale someone erased every episode of the show from their minds
 Mace:
 yup
 Lor:
don't sit on a hospital floor! gaaaaah
 Mace:
 ha! honestly it's prolly pretty clean?
 Lor:
Dean would only ever do this when he's a spirit, my little germophobe
 Lor:
shudders
nopenopenope
 Mace:
 Sammy's relieved reaction is adorable
 Lor:
YES
that gives me the SHIVERS even though we already KNOW that's what's happening
 Mace:
"you can't kill death" HAHAHAHAHA
Oh Dean, honey
 Lor:
lolololololol
 Mace:
 yeah, this is a pretty great episode
 Lor:
YEP
spirit!Dean framed in the tubes supporting his body
 Mace:
 yeah cool
 Lor:
"thanks for not giving up on me, Sammy" sobs
"you know, you read the most interesting things" THUD
 Mace:
 HA
 Lor:
omg that shiver when she touches him
 Mace:
yeah
the yellow eyes are so gross. sort of milky and just EW
 Lor:
right?
"we were just starting to be brothers again" oooof
 Mace:
 "we were just starting to be brothers again" omg Sam
 Lor:
YES
uh, he was in a car accident
how is that a warrior's death?
 Mace:
 well the enemy did stage the crash...
 Lor:
okay, I’ll allow it
poor Tessa. Doin’ some of her best work
 Mace:
 HA!
 Lor:
why does John do this? because he thinks Dean will have a better chance of helping Sam not turn evil than he does?
or is it bc he's afraid someone's gonna have to kill Sam to stop that and he's gonna leave that mess for Dean cause he can't do it himself?
or... wait. I guess originally he wasn't planning on bargaining with his own life
nevermind
pay attention, Lor
 Mace:
 Hm. I think he thinks it's what a father is supposed to do and it's heroic so that fits with what he's actually willing to do
 Lor:
Dean's "what are you doing that for?" like he was getting okay with the idea and then he got scared
 Mace:
 YES THERE IS AN ANGEL WATCHING OVER HIM
 Lor:
THERE IS
 Mace:
"well that's specific"
YOU TELL HIM SAMMY
 Lor:
lol
YES TELL HIM
 Mace:
 that cryptic shit is so tired
 Lor:
yep
Sammy, you tell him, then take your brother and get away from him
 Mace:
 YES
 Lor:
THAT IS NOT A POSITIVE MEMORY FOR DEAN, JOHN
CORRECT
 Mace:
YUP
it's too little too late, but at least it's something, I guess?
 Lor:
"it this really you talking?" OMG
 Mace:
RIGHT?!
"why are you saying this stuff?" = "that sounds like a goodbye" and omg Dean Winchester you sad little muffin
 Lor:
OMG YOU'RE RIGHT
EVERYONE DIES ON HIM and they just KEPT DOING IT instead of FINISHING THE STORY
 Mace:
 admission of tender feelings is always followed by loss for him and that's so flipping tragic
 Lor:
YEP
 [after the episode ended:]
Lor:
(the part of me that has a PhD in creative writing is INCANDESCENTLY peeved at the ABJECT failure of storytelling that was the finale. like, other parts of me are sad and hurt and other squishy ow feelings, but that bit? wants to THROW DOWN)
 Mace:
AGREED. I am hurt for the characters but I am LIVID at the shitty writing
 Lor:
EXACTLY
it's just especially galling that they had something pretty excellent set up and some awesome parallels right THERE. and just... nonsense. Tragic blither that ignored fifteen years of character development and themes
 Mace:
YUP. It seems almost spitefully done. Like, fuck you and your fancy story arcs and show development maturity, I want to revert back to the macho bullshit This Show Is Only About The Boys nonsense and fuck all if it doesn’t even make logical sense.
 Lor:
Ug YEP
And the thing is, if they wanted to kill off Dean in a stupid mundane way and have the whole show really just be an interlude in Sam's life before he ended up doing pretty much just what he would have otherwise (I think this always would have been a dumb ending, but if they ACTIVELY WANTED THAT), they could have set up S15 in a way that made that WORK as an ending. Something with inevitability and fate and God/Chuck and no longer being the heroes and etc BUT THEY DIDN'T DO THAT EITHER
 Mace:
NOPE
in every way possible that last ep feels like a shitty writer went rogue
 Lor:
Yep
It feels like the shitty first draft of a workshop story by a third-year undergrad who thinks tragedy and fatalism are automatically substantive and Art
 Mace:
 Yes. Who also feels threatened by the more talented women in the room and listens to Led Zeppelin because he knows he’s supposed to think they’re cool. And doesn’t actually understand why
 Lor:
SNORK
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