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[criminalistictalk]

Different psychological approaches about Empathy

Different psychological approaches about Empathy

Empathy is the psychological process through which we can imagine and experience how others might feel or think in a particular situation; this process encompasses both cognitive and emotional dimensions: Cognitively, as it involves the specific ability to use existing information to make a judgement about what others might be experiencing, this is also called ‘Perspective taking.’ Emotionally,…

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#against empathy #British psychological society #cognitive psychology #emotional distress #empathy #experiments #forensic psychology #hypothesis #Paul Bloom #Psychological approach #psychologists #psychology #research #Social psychology #social sciences #united kingdom #USA

[morpsychology]

We often think that empathy, our capacity "to feel someone's pain," is the ultimate source of goodness. Nothing could be farther from the truth, argues psychology professor Paul Bloom. Scientific studies show that empathy is a capricious and irrational emotion that can cloud people's judgement and even lead to violence and cruelty.

#Paul Bloom #Judgement #MorPsychology #Goodness #Irrational Emotion #Emotion #Against Empathy #Empathy #capricious emotion #The Case for Rational Compassion #Rational Compassion #Moribund Institute #Youtube

[stil-lindigo]

an ex-zionist jewish man recently went a bit viral on tiktok for sharing exactly how he sees zionism tie israel to the jewish identity and his personal experience with breaking away from it - I think it’s a really great watch.

He also made a follow up talking specifically about how he learned to humanise Palestinians, and a really integral part of it was his school, which would often bring in Palestinian speakers who’d share their perspective (here’s a link to it).

#tiktok against all odds inspires a lot of hope in me bc of how prevalent palestinian support is over there #so much of the younger generation is so media literate and articulate about standing up to oppression #and getting perspectives like this I think is really beneficial when it comes to understanding where Zionist talking points come from #I don’t particularly think right now our priority should be reaching out to zionists or anything #it should always be Palestinians at the forefront of activism our activism #but this is educational. Zionism is not Judaism and this proves that. #it’s never too late to turn away from oppressive propaganda and have empathy for your fellow man #palestine #israel #free palestine #from the river to the sea

[cephalopodinspace]

When I finished reading Against Empathy week ago, I thought it was a pretty good book that didn't affect me at all. It must be a complete coincidence that now I care about myself less (and I think that's a good thing) and feel the urge to "um, actually" every time I see someone talking about how great empathy is.

#it didn't read like a great book but maybe it was actually a great book? #against empathy

[frodo-a-gogo]

Let us be brutally honest with ourselves and with eachother for a moment. If he weren't obese you motherfuckers would be capable of percieving evrart claires sexy sexy moral ambiguity and complex charms

#i am (lesbian) sipping him like a fine DESSERT WINE #my evidence by the way is very simple and very damning. joyce messier. there i said it. #if you guys can appreciate the fact that Joyce is a complex figure worthy of disgust yes but also worthy of empathy #despite being a venal coward facilitating acts of violence and slaughter of the organized working poor of martinaise in the name of capital #if you can understand that she is a dimensional figure while also being an embodiment of the moral apathy and cruelty if capital owners #but you cant look at evrart and see that he is (while deeply flawed and morally suspect) also a dimensional figure #on top of the fact that his motivations are eminently relatable and dare i say it baser #and his greatest failing imho is in failing to advocate for the interests of *all* the poor of martinaise #opting instead to marginalize the inhabitants of the fishing village in favor of a power grab in the interests of himself and his union #though this is imo a bit of a grey area morally. undeniably a wrong and bad thing to do but done in service of clairs political goals #to gather power to advocate for the working class against ultraliberal monoliths like wild pines and fascistic orgs like krenel #still super wrong but i can follow the moral arithmetic there tho i don't like it #but like my point is if u can see that joyce is evil and pathetic but still cool and sexy but you consider clair flatly distasteful #thats cus hes not conventionally attractive #cus he is *every bit* as dimensional and interesting as joyce and he is not nearly as politically shite even if hes interpersonally a jerk

[panakina]

I find it really funny when any fic has Cass convince Jason that killing is wrong. Her whole stance is based on not wanting to see anyone else experience what she saw when she killed a man. Jason experienced it himself. He's decided its okay actually.

#jason todd #dc #red hood #batman #cassandra cain #black bat #Super empathy for murder victims #Is a really fucking funny thing to try and use against Jason Todd as a trump card #sorry guys. I don't think that's gonna move him

[turbo-tsundere]

Kokichisake-onna

*Happy anime narrator voice*: “And thus, Kokichi has once again successfully evaded the dread of emotional openness!”

Also here’s a random selection of derpy concept doodles for this comic :)

Thank you byeeeeee

#gonta gokuhara #gokuhara gonta #kokichi ouma #ouma kokichi #kokichi oma #featuring shuichi xD #ougoku #awwgoku #my art #I wanted to post it on ougoku day but work and migraines piled up on me and I really wanted to give this one the time it needs! #If you know the legend you know why Shuichi is panicking XDD #Look into Kokichi's eyeballs in panel 3 and see the sad hope against hope and yet! he still actively sabotages any comfort coming his way! #Is Gonta just kind or is his compassion a warped mix of compulsive fawning and misplaced empathy that keeps inviting menace into his life? #there's a secret sadness to this silly comic lmao and it's those poor sods' autopilots #I say laughing but by god do they need help #anyway enjoy! I might try posting more of Gonta ships I like - like this one; or with Shuichi; and some others 8D #btw I LOVE Gonta's scariest sprite - fantastic detail bc it does look like a snarl and ofc a wild child would imitate animal expressions! #and 2 out of 3 times he uses it he's actually NOT angry but hyped or frustrated - both cases also smth I appreciate for certain reasons #his actual 'serious angry' sprite is far more toned down in comparison

[mecachrome]

Alex Albon for High Performance

It was this weird thing, because — for example with Yuki, I wanted to take his seat! He was a potential candidate that I could replace. And I remember having that chat with Helmut Marko, and he told me at the time, "You need to driver-coach this guy." And I was like, "I'm not going to. That's a potential seat." And he said, "No, he's already signed. He's guaranteed." So I was like (throws hands), "Okay, fine. Then I'll help him."

#alex albon #* #so many good quotes in this.... saying he only developed his competitive drive upon losing his childhood privileges amongst them #the continuous professional struggle against natural temperament & symptoms of empathy & selflessness truly gets me every time #alex's propensity for self-dissection but also his simultaneous understanding of the drawbacks of such awareness 😵‍💫 #also #it is interesting that finally having his support systems in place and being the most mentally resilient he's ever been in his career #unintentionally stressed logan's rookie environment and replicated the media scrutiny & narratives he underwent his 2nd year with max #i will stop but..... alex albon i adore you

[watcherintheweyr]

desperately need people to understand that alicent is a victim but she’s also an abuser and a perpetrator

that she actively makes choices to harm other women because of jealousy and envy and the greed deep in her bones because submitting to suffering didn’t get her what those women fight to grasp for themselves.

she is absolutely a victim, in show.

that doesn’t change that she abused rhaenyra and her children, her own son, most likely helaena given how she flinches every time her mother touches her, and is actively weaponizing the patriarchy of westeros against other women- rhaenyra primarily, but also mysaria and dyana.

she isn’t the moral, righteous force of good that even she thinks she is, she’s a wounded woman directing all of the rot, pain, and fury inside her at the wrong people and forces.

#anti team green stans #anti team green #anti alicent hightower stans #i don’t wanna say it’s anti alicent bc honestly it’s more ‘accept her for who she is bc she’s so much more complex and interesting when you #but i made this bc someone genuinely tried to say that the reason people hate her is that they don’t see her as a victim #most rational people know show!alicent is a victim #it’s the point that’s she’s an abuser as well #that makes them dislike her #that she’s a hypocrite and a traitor #i don’t even like young alicent bc i don’t at all think she was a good friend to rhaenyra #‘it’s not your place to question the plots of lords and men’ to the named heir #dismisses rhaenyra’s hopes and idealism entirely out of hand #is baffled that rhaenyra is more worried for her fathers happiness and mother’s wellbeing than her position #she knew as early as ep 3 that otto was conspiring against rhaenyra and never told anyone #condemns ‘targaryen customs’ only to wed her daughter to her son even younger than she was when otto dangled her before viserys #acts entitled to rhaenyras secrets whilst condemning and judgemental even though she did not give rhaenyra that same courtesy #made no attempt at apology for the insensitive comment of aegon’s birth #though rhaenyra DID try to apologize for the ‘imprisoned in a castle’ line and tried to comfort her #uses her power as queen to push past the space rhaenyra is trying to create because she feels heartbroken and betrayed #rhaenyra took part in alicent’s culture with prayer at alicent’s urging because she cared about alicent and alicent was trying to help her #alicent is never once shown to return that favor instead condemning it for ‘queerness’ and growing to later #erase and remove all targaryen and valyrian heraldry from the red keep to replace with her own #like alicent is a victim and i DO have empathy for her. but i don’t like her and never will #especially not after the way her stans behave #she deserved better than otto’s machinations and viserys’…. viserysness #but that can also be true whilst i condemn her actions and behaviors

[letters-to-lgbt-kids]

My dear lgbt+ kids,

Any variant of "Human beings are by default bad" has the same problem: it actually protects those who choose to be bad.

Let's look at some examples:

"Straight people just can't relate to those who are different" actually gives those people who choose to say homophobic stuff a perfect excuse to do so. After all this means it's not their fault, straight people just are like that, there is nothing they could do about it! ... which obviously isn't true.

"Men are designed to be aggressive and violent, it's their nature" actually gives those men who choose to act violently a perfect excuse to do so. After all this means it's not their fault, men just are like that, there is nothing they could do about it! ... which obviously isn't true.

Your behavior isn't determined by your sexual orientation or your gender. People of all sexes, genders and orientations are capable of behaving in compassionate, calm and kind ways.

Men are perfectly capable of treating women with respect. Straight people are perfectly capable of being allies for gay people. Acknowledging that doesn't take away from the fight for equal rights - far from that, it actually highlights that equal rights are possible.

People can change their attitudes, people can change their behavior.

For some people it's easy to behave that way, others actively need to work on it and of course there are internal and external factors that can influence this - but we want to encourage them to work on it. We don't want to hand them a golden excuse not to work on it.

With all my love,

Your Tumblr Dad

#I conciously decided against using the term empathy here as people can have low empathy and still choose to behave in compassionate ways #that's a whole different topic to get into #lgbt #lgbt+

[utilitycaster]

You know what's interesting to me? For all people keep claiming at every juncture that perhaps Bells Hells will come around on the gods and see the harm they do (which, as discussed extensively, is, half the time, simply not intervening) not only have they never done so, but also they never quite cross the line into saying the party should join the Ruby Vanguard or aid them - and indeed, they defend against it - so what does this achieve? It feels like they're asking for a story in which the party stands idly by, which isn't much of a story nor, if I may connect this briefly to the real world, a political stance anyone should be proud of.

That's honestly the frustration with the gods and the "what if the Vanguard has a point" conversations in-game. What do we do then? Do we allow the organization that will murder anyone for pretty much any reason that loosely ties into their goals run rampant? The group that (perhaps unwittingly, but then again, Otohan's blades had that poison) disrupted magic world-wide, and caused people who had the misfortune to live at nexus points to be teleported (most, as commoners, without means of return). While also fomenting worldwide unrest?

Those were the arguments before the trip to Ruidus; with the reveal of the Vanguard's goals to invade Exandria, the situation becomes even more dire. Do you let the Imperium take over the planet?

And do the arguments against the gods even hold up? If Ludinus is so angry at them for the Calamity, what does it say that he destroyed Western Wildemount's first post-Calamity society for entirely selfish means? (What does it say about the validity of vengeance as a motivator?) What does it say that Laudna told Imogen she could always just live in a cottage quietly without issue before the solstice even happened? (Would this still be true if the Imperium controls the world?) What does it say that when faced with a furious, grieving party and the daughter she keeps telling herself was her reason for all of this, Liliana can't provide an answer to the question of what the gods have done other than that their followers will retaliate...for, you know, the Vanguard's endless list of murders. (That is how the Vanguard and Imperium tend to think, huh? "How dare your face get in the way of my boot; how dare you hit me back when I strike you.") She can't even provide a positive answer - why is Predathos better - other than "I feel it", even though Imogen and Fearne know firsthand that Predathos can provide artificial feelings of elation. Given all the harm Ludinus has done in pursuit, why isn't the conclusion "the gods should have crashed Aeor in such a way that the tech was unrecoverable?"

Even as early as the first real discussion on what the party should do, the fandom always stopped short of saying "no, Imogen's right, they should join up with the people who killed half the party," it was always "no, she didn't really mean it, she just was trying to connect with her mother." Well, she's connected with her mother, and at this point the party doesn't even care about the gods particularly (their only divinely-connected party member having died to prevent the Vanguard from killing all of them). So they will stop the Vanguard; as Ashton says, the means are unforgiveable. As Laudna says, it's not safe to bet on Predathos's apathy. As Imogen says, she's done running; the voice that she used to think of as a lifeline belongs to someone she doesn't trust. So I guess my question is: if they're stopping the people who are trying to kill the gods (and defense of the gods isn't remotely their personal motivation)...do you think the next phase of the campaign is Bells Hells personally killing the gods? Reconstructing the Aeor tech and hoping none of their allies notice? How does this end? Does your ideology ever get enacted? Or is this entirely moot and pointless and the story ends with Bells Hells saying "well, I'm really glad we stopped the people who [insert list of Vanguard atrocities from above]; none of us follow the gods or plan to, but honestly, the status quo we return to is preferable to whatever nightmare Ludinus had concocted in his violent quest for power and revenge"?

#i've got a lot to do today so I think I'm done posting but #cr spoilers #i called that this particular cohort of fans had empathy only for those like them and were terrified of player agency like. 18 mos ago #and i have never been proven wrong. zero analysis just a constant demand that everyone coddle their feelings and confirm their biases #literally will straight up fabricate lore and cry you're disrespecting a pretend person for not including it in your considerations #absolutely SHIT understanding of actual lore. utter incapacity to follow a logical throughline to its conclusion #it's like. wow. wonder why you're so focused on hypocrisy and you overreact to the word selfish #the reason they hate or fear orym (they say they don't...but that just means they want him to go to a reeducation camp instead of die) #is bc i think they are truly terrified of the idea that people can not just hold opinions that are against theirs but stand fast by them #easier to stan the villain because then they die and you can feel wronged and betrayed and wallow in a sense of continual victimhood #than to like a character who might last long enough to call you the idiot and asshole that you are #but it's also funny bc literally if orym weren't there in the latest convo the conclusion is the same. #ashton's had the same opinion of the vanguard the whole time (and it's not positive) but that's not under scrutiny #probably bc it doesn't allow people to be ghoulish in the most cringeworthy way possible

[o-vera-nalyzing]

sometimes i feel like the people who are saying the bad kids should have tried conflict resolution instead of fighting are watching the same show i am. first off every single season thus far with the ih has ended with a huge battle so why would you expect this one not to? secondly like i like the rat grinders as much as the next person but you can’t negotiate with people that are canonically 100% blinded by rage. like i would consider the idea of some other resolution than killing them if it seemed possible but like put urself in their shoes? they’re a bunch of teenagers who have been tormented by other teenagers and told that they’re the privileged ones by people getting power leveled by teachers. i’m certain they all know the ‘big bad’ is porter (and jace but he was also shatter starred so idk) but that doesn’t change the fact they’re also fucking mad. but like totally genuinely if someone explained to me a plausible situation where porters plan gets thwarted without a fight i might be able to see it but all i’ve seen is people saying ‘conflict resolution’ and ‘talk it out’ like we’re in kindergarten and the other team doesn’t have ninth level spell slots. maybe that sounds harsh but i’m open to listening if someone actually thinks there’s a plausible way for it to end without fighting/without killing the rat grinders. cause i can’t see it unless the entire season changes from like basically the beginning.

#and like i guess i can get being against a tpk (tho i genuinely don’t see the other option) but like people can be revivified and #if ur mad at the cut off his head line i would just consider it’s incredibly hard for people to have wealths of compassion and empathy for #people who have been trying to kill them all year ESPECIALLY at seventeen and in the midst of combat😭 #fantasy high junior year #riz gukgak #fantasy high #fhjy spoilers #fabian aramais seacaster #gorgug thistlespring #adaine abernant #fig faeth #kristen applebees #the rat grinders #kipperlilly copperkettle #original overanalyzing

[furiousgoldfish]

abusive parents: in the 'real' world--

me: ah yes, because your house where you force children into submission is an imaginary land, devoid of reality, a fantasy place where nobody has experienced an actual real-life event, and you yourself have transported this place out of reality only for me to be able to experience this imaginary world where you are the god and decide whats real and what isn't, as well as what past events can be revisioned to your liking. Which one of us isn't living in the real world again.

#abusive parents #toxic parents #bullshitting children #child abuse #the real world #there is no other world than the real world #and parents trying to trick you into believing you haven't experienced real world #is a scam and a lie #their house is not only the real world #but the most dangerous part of the real world #where empathy doesn't exist and you have no human rights #real world has human rights #and laws against abuse #and laws against child exploitation #and laws against violence #and it says parents should take care of their children #and not what you've been doing #you created a bubble where you do illegal things to me #and then lecture me about how none of it is real #it was real alright #my body remembers everything #and so do you #but you remember it with pleasure #gross

[lupuslikethewolf]

something something daemon was sixteen when alyssane made him marry something something he was uprooted from his home and forced to live in an entirely new kingdom with someone he hated and who hated him back something something every time he did something that viserys didn't like he was kicked out of the only home he had and sent away something something daemon fought for viserys but viserys never fought for daemon something something daemon has targaryen daughter syndrome

#if daemon haters could please refrain from blaming teenage boy (at the time) for acting out against his controlling family #no this is not abuse or misogyny apologism its called sympathy and empathy for a character's shitty childhood/adolescence #its called giving daemon's character and decisions context that the show conveniently refuses to address #can i complain about the choice of casting an actress who looks younger than matt smith when rhea was more likely the same age/older? #there's a reason daemon is grrm's fave and that reason is bc he is the visenya-coded daughter and also the ever loyal brother #fire and blood #f&b #pro daemon targaryen #pro daemon #daemon targaryen #the rogue prince #prince daemon targaryen #hotd #hotd critical

[isa-ah]

We both were chosen by this destiny…

Why did it have to be us?

#sorry this is soooo low energy i’m rlly down rn #hero’s purpose #loz #oot #ganondorf #link #maybe the symbolism would have been better if i did oot zelda and impa with koume and koutake #or if i did skyward sword zelda and impa with demise #but this felt Correct anyway #truly the dialogue in episode 5 is still just. chewing on it. chewing on it. chewing on it. #treating spirit of the hero as an extension of the curse that strips link of his empathy and autonomy is sooooo sexy #that it’s all morally grey that no one is correct in this conflict and there is no hero and villain #just used children groomed into a life of compulsive bloodshed at hylia and demise behest #god #hylia just Using Him against his will as he starts to crumble and ganondorf losing his humanity for his tenderness #the recognition of each other as terrified miserable children seconds before they’re both killed. it’s so sad #bro idk major link is just a genius he’s a genius #it’s so fucking compelling and depressing and i really wish the mutually morally grey landscape would be acknowledged canonically

[dustyfairywings]

So you know how Takayoshi gifted Akemi two songbirds in a cage together as a sincere apology for his mother?

I think those two birds are meant to symbolize both Akemi and Takayoshi. They are both marginalized in some way despite their privilege. Akemi as the daughter of a lord and Takayoshi as the disabled second son of the shogun are both denied agency in their roles despite their privilege. Takayoshi and Akemi both are song birds in a gilded cage. Two pawns to the political and social machinations of their parents. Akemi a victim to her father’s political aspirations and Takayoshi evidently a victim to his mother’s social manipulations.

(Aside: and possibly emotional abuse/neglect, with the way he was forbidden from speaking to women and who knows what actually happened to this first wife. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that it seems to me like this is all in service of maintaining a “respectable” image of the family, and cannot risk having people know he has a stutter. just spitballing here)

If I were to make a prediction for season 2, or a wish, it’s that I would like to see Akemi and Takayoshi form a genuine bond and alliance as two privileged-yet-marginalized individuals having to navigate a politically fraught and rigidly hierarchical society, and I think there’s at least some textual evidence to support this being a real possibility.

They demonstrate in the show Takayoshi is no fool and that he’s clearly an educated and well-read man. Take how he engages with Akemi’s poetry during sex compared to Taigen as an example. He simply has a disability and is somewhat submissive and subdued (likely due to being shamed or ridiculed for his stutter and getting little to no support as a child). They are capable of being intellectual equals. Any sort of power or control Akemi would gain over Takayoshi is by virtue of the kindness and empathy she is showing him, not because she’s outsmarting him. I believe Takayoshi is willingly surrendering himself to his wife and cognizant of this fact.

I think we may see a dynamic where Akemi will both advocate for her own political ends but also at times advocate for and try to protect her husband where she can where familial and interpersonal relationships are involved. I really really hope their union will be one that grows in political power through the healing power of love, compassion, and solidarity between two marginalized individuals.

They can acknowledge the humanity in each other and see each other as equals in their shared pain and victimization, and find empowerment through each other. If they cannot be their own masters at least they can be each other’s sole masters.

Takayoshi and Akemi may be two songbirds stuck in a gilded cage, stripped of their freedom and humanity. But they at least have each other and together they can harmonize.

#ramblogging #blue eye samurai #akemi blue eye samurai #takayoshi blue eye samurai #im convinced takayoshi’s gift of two birds is a symbol of his sincere willingess to build an emotional and political alliance with akemi #a recognition of their status as equals on some level #namely being marginalized #suddenly have the urge to draw akemi and takayoshi sitting together on a swing inside a bird cage #looking somber in bird-like kimono #i think people only see akemi as manipulating takayoshi #but tbh i think takayoshi might be a bit like her willing participant #well as willing as you can be when your choices are manipulative loving wife vs manipulative bitch mother #and akemi hasnt shown herself to be so utterly heartless that she would manipulate takayoshi against his own interests? #akemi has regularly shown concern and empathy for others #second to her freedom i think akemi wants nothing more but to genuinely connect with others #akemi would not be happy with herself nor would she be satisfied if her kindneds towards takayoshi were only skin deep #anyway that’s my 2 cents