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mommy-issues-haver · 1 year

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i don’t think a man can ever want a child in the way a woman can. when a man wants a child, it only requires sex and someone else’s womb. it is a momentary action for him. but when a woman wants a child, she is willing to go through months of anguish, to go through one of the most gruesome possible feats the human body is capable of. she knows there is a not insignificant risk to her life. that is not a level on which men can contend. i have a bit of a hard time taking men who say they really want children seriously for this reason.

i don’t say this as some sort of womb worship or in an attempt to mysticize pregnancy. i especially don’t say this to suggest women should want children. (to the contrary — pregnancy and childbirth are such extreme things for the body to go through that you have to be a little insane to say you want that.) i say it to emphasize that there is no situation in which it is acceptable for a man to buy a child through the rental of a woman’s body for nine months (not even counting recovery time). (i don’t believe it’s acceptable for women either, but very few turn to surrogacy without having tried to have a child on their own — a slightly different scenario). no one is entitled to a child and no one is entitled to genetic heirs in order to continue their family line. it is revolting.

i’m not saying there are no gay men fit to be parents. of course not. i’m saying they really should think twice about what surrogacy really means before they buy a woman’s body for a year. i think there isn’t enough discussion about surrogacy and the truth is that most men don’t consider how their actions will affect a woman or whether or not they’re acting ethically. we need to talk about surrogacy. we need to start the conversation around it. we need to raise consciousness around this issue which has barely any pushback against it. talk about it!!!

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coochiequeens · 3 months

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I don't like conservative "news" media like fox and this site but no one else is talking about how surrogacy gives pedos access to kids.

The fertility industry is handing designer babies over to men with zero vetting or scrutiny of their mental fitness or criminal history.

By KATY FAUST

Surrogacy is risky for children. Not just the risk of a primal wound via intentional birth mother separation. Not just the risk of identity struggles if their genetic mother is purchased from a catalog. Not just the risk of mother-hunger if they are raised in a home absent maternal love.

Surrogacy puts children at risk for the worst kinds of abuse.

That became glaringly obvious last month when YouTubers Shane Dawson and partner Ryan Adams announced the birth of twin boys. Dawson’s long history of sexualizing children is well-known and well-documented. Evie magazine detailed concerning incidents including Dawson pretending to masturbate while watching 11-year-old Willow Smith’s music video, referring to a 6-year-old fan as “kind of sexy,” justifying pedophilia as a mere “fetish,” typing “naked baby” in a child pornography search and remarking that the returns were “sexy,” and proclaiming, “I would rape all of you” when viewing a series of photos featuring young girls wearing his merchandise.

In one show, he instructed a 12-year-old to eat a “cocktail weenie” with the recognition that child molesters comprise a significant portion of his audience. Dawson and Adam have another 10 embryos in frozen storage should they decide they want a few more children around the house.

We hope no harm comes to the boys to whom Dawson and Adams have been granted (via surrogacy contract) parental rights. But other surrogate-born children were not so fortunate.

Contrary to what you may think, surrogacy isn’t just about helping infertile couples have babies. When we look at how surrogacy is actually practiced and promoted, we see surrogacy isn’t about babies, it’s about on-demand, designer babies shipped worldwide. And sometimes, those babies are shipped directly to child abusers.

We don’t know the raw numbers because, unlike organ donation, the medical wing of #BigFertility requires no tracking or follow-up of those who avail themselves of their services. (Apparently, there’s more concern about the survival of a kidney than a child.) And unlike adoption, which heavily vets and screens prospective parents and monitors the child post-placement, surrogate-born children are not known to social workers and often disappear across international borders.

Even when safeguards are in place, predators often go to great lengths to acquire children to abuse. In 2022, the country was horrified by the story of a suburban pedophile ring set up by two married men who raped and pimped out their adopted sons.

That children created by a fertility industry with no mechanism (and no desire) to scrutinize intended parents for things like mental fitness, criminal records, or predatory history end up in the homes of dangerous adults should surprise no one.

Absent any kind of record-keeping or follow-up on these children, those of us who reject surrogacy on the grounds that it violates the rights of children, must piece together the risks when stories of child victimization emerge.

These 5 Pedophiles Mail-Ordered Babies

Psychiatrist Jo Erik Brøyn held a high position in Norwegian social services responsible for child protection and was involved in several high-profile cases of child removal. He also acquired two boys through an Indian surrogate. In 2018, police discovered 20 years’ worth of child pornography in his possession — more than 20,000 images and 4,000 hours of videos — depicting child sexual abuse including “boys masturbating each other, fixed/sexualized violence against children, anal sex by men with boys or oral sex of children (including toddlers) on grown men.” He was sentenced to less than two years in prison. Some sources report that the boys have been returned to his care.

An unnamed German pedophile hired a Russian surrogate for €60,000 who birthed the baby in Greece. He then flew the child back to Germany. In 2020, a regional court found him guilty of child abuse and producing and possessing child pornography. His child was a subject of 16 of those cases between the ages of 2 and 3, and the defendant was in possession of 175,000 images of child pornography. He was sentenced to five years in prison. The child was removed from his custody.

In 2013, Mark Newton and Peter Truong were convicted of subjecting their surrogate-born son to “the worst [pedophile] rings … if not the worst ring I’ve ever heard of,” according to one investigator. After paying a Russian surrogate $8,000 to carry the child, the pair began to violate the boy as a newborn.

“The abuse began just days after his birth and over six years the couple traveled the world, offering him up for sex with at least eight men, recording the abuse and uploading the footage to an international syndicate known as the Boy Lovers Network.” Police believe the pair created the boy through surrogacy “for the sole purpose of exploitation.” The child was removed from their custody, and the men are serving decades-long sentences.

During the height of the Indian surrogacy boom, it was revealed that an Israeli sex offender had procured a little girl via surrogacy. Had #BigFertility had any kind of vetting in place or required fingerprinting or simply character references, it would likely have been discovered that the man had spent 18 months in jail for sexually abusing young children under his supervision. The discovery shocked authorities in both India and Israel, but because they couldn’t prove that abuse had yet taken place, there was no ground to remove the girl from his custody. It did however validate India’s decision to ban single men and gay couples, who composed 30-50 percent of intended parents, from the Indian surrogacy market.

In 2014, intended parents Wendy and David Farnell commissioned twin surrogate children in Thailand, then a global hotspot for surrogacy. The little girl, Pipah, was healthy, but the little boy, Gammy, had serious medical issues as well as Down Syndrome. A scandal erupted when the couple took the little girl back to Australia but abandoned Gammy to be raised by the Thai surrogate.

It was then discovered that David had been jailed in the late 1990s for sexually molesting two girls under the age of 10, and was charged, convicted, and sentenced again in 1998 on six counts of indecently dealing with a child under the age of 13. When his criminal record was revealed and investigated, a judge determined there was “a low risk of harm if Pipah stays in that home,” and she remained in the care of Wendy and David until his death in 2020. The “Baby Gammy” case was one of several scandals that prompted the Thai government to ban commercial surrogacy altogether.

Many of the above cases are older, the results of contracts that were drawn up when surrogacy was less common. Since then, the surrogacy industry has grown exponentially with a projected 1,000 percent increase by 2032. In addition, there are entire organizations devoted to delivering custom-ordered babies to men, none of which will have to submit to background checks or fingerprinting. So expect more cases of surrogate-born child exploitation in the coming years.

Whether or not the child ends up abused, whether it’s paid or altruistic, whether it’s traditional or gestational, and regardless of the intended parent’s household composition, surrogacy always violates the rights of the child. It is not a problem that can be solved through regulation. The only way to protect children is to ban surrogacy worldwide.

#Anti surrogacy #Surrogacy exploits women #Babies are not commodities #No one is entitled to biological children #Some people should not even be near kids #Are fertility agencies required to do background checks on potential parents?

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womenaremypriority · 5 months

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The absolute dystopian horror that is commercial surrogacy where western privileged women buy the bodies of poorer women in the Global South. The way so many celebrity women have done it. Just the absolute height of patriarchal capitalism, in a world where we’re so disconnected from our bodies, and our communities, and everything must be a commodity. It’s all so banal and surreal and people are so focused on the hypothetical situation where it could be moral instead of the reality. How can you see Ukrainian women being made to “rent out” their wombs in a war and condone this.

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rehumanizewomen · 1 year

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Beauty culture is contributing to the surrogacy industry.

More and more wealthy women indulged in beauty culture are considering surrogacy their only option for childbearing. These are women who want to be mothers, want to have biological offspring, but don’t want to “ruin their bodies”. Instead, they’d pay to have IVF done with a surrogate mother as the baby machine.

Why is this so normalized? Women dehumanize our own! Beauty indulgers regard their bodies as decor, hoping the poorer women won’t hold as much value to their bodies/lives in exchange for a sum if money.

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lesblizzard-ultradyke · 1 year

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I see so much women who are not anti surrogacy being shocked in disgusted about those news about using dead women's bodies as incubators and saying how dehumanising is this and that's how women seen in society but like... did they ever thought that surrogacy itself is dehumanising and just using women as incubators?

the only difference is that there's "consent" from surrogate mothers but we all understand that it's not a choice when it's a choice between poverty/death and surrogacy/any other "sex work"

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cheerfullycatholic · 4 months

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The path to peace calls for respect for life, for every human life, starting with the life of the unborn child in the mother’s womb, which cannot be suppressed or turned into an object of trafficking. In this regard, I deem deplorable the practice of so-called surrogate motherhood, which represents a grave violation of the dignity of the woman and the child, based on the exploitation of situations of the mother’s material needs. A child is always a gift and never the basis of a commercial contract. Consequently, I express my hope for an effort by the international community to prohibit this practice universally. At every moment of its existence, human life must be preserved and defended; yet I note with regret, especially in the West, the continued spread of a culture of death, which in the name of a false compassion discards children, the elderly and the sick.

From the address of his holiness Pope Francis to members of the Diplomatic Corps accredited to The Holy See, January 8th 2024

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shadycomputerpolice · 4 months

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In the wake of Shane Dawson becoming a father via surrogacy, I have been seeing a lot of discussions about surrogacy. One of the most popular criticisms of anti-surrogacy I see is "Well, there is no screening process for normal impregnation too"

Yes, it is unfortunate that irresponsible men and women can make a baby together, it doesn't negate the fact surrogacy is harmful especially when potential parents aren't screened. You guys are basically saying since fertile irresponsible and possibly degenerate people can make babies naturally we might as well allow infertile irresponsible and possibly degenerate people have children via surrogacy. Basically "Well, the water is already polluted so let us not make any effort to stop further pollution".

This is when you know you are in too deep in online discourse and this is just a debate to you because you guys aren't even considering the well-being of the children. It is about winning the debate for you all at this point but let us not forget actual humans are being created and handed off to potentially dangerous people.

And for those who are going to turn this into a homophobia thing, Identity does not equal morality. I do not do identity Politics when it comes to morality but I especially do not do identity Politics when it comes to safeguarding children (you know, the most vulnerable group of humans).

Banning surrogacy is not going to end child abuse but it sure as hell will reduce the number of children that become legal property of unworthy people and that is a win for humankind.

I thought all sane adults realised there is no thanos snap to solving world problems but rather small drops of change which eventually create an ocean.

In the meantime, you could mitigate and even eliminate child abuse by suggesting a viable method to prevent unworthy people from becoming parents via natural impregnation.

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