#autonomous genders

[outherworldlycoining]

Fortitudian

[PT: Fortitudian]

An orientation for those who are gay for maverine genders, autonomous/autonomine genders and other outherine genders characterised by gender autonomy.

The name comes from the exoplanet Fortitudo, orbiting the star Libertas in the constellation of Aquila. It was chosen because both the name of the planet means "strength, fortitude" and the star that it orbits was named after the goddess of freedom and after freedom itself. In a sense, they can be seen as representing the strong sense of gender and the autonomy, self-governance and authenticity that characterises maverine and autonomine genders.

The flag:

#outherine orientations #maverine #autonomous genders #mogai orientation #liom orientation #maverique #autonomique

[uncanny-tranny]

It's just... odd to me, I suppose, going from "what is in my pants is completely irrelevant to most anybody else's life" to the expectation that you must be completely open, essentially, about what is in your pants.

I think a lot of people understand the general idea of why it's bad decorum to demand people offer explanations for private information like this, but they don't analyze exactly why it's bad besides, "asking directly is just rude" and not "asking in any way still enforces the often violent nature of gender and sex, and putting people in the 'right box' is a part of that violence."

It's especially odd when seeing other trans people enforcing the idea that "what's in your pants?" is a genuine, good-faith basis for interacting with others.

#trans #transgender #lgbt #lgbtq #ftm #mtf #nonbinary #what i mean by the last paragraph is... WHY does it matter? #if i lied to you right now about what is in my pants... how would you know OR how would you change how i am treated by you? #and also. i would absolutely rather lie about my *own* body than be put in danger because it is a trans body #if worse comes to worst i genuinely don't care if somebody is mildly insulted that i didn't 'trust them' enough with that information #it's just weird to see people go from 'only tell doctors that info; it hardly matters outside that!' to... #...'you need to tell ANYbody - even in social and platonic situations where you don't think it matters'... #...can you see how believing in the fundamental idea (that your sex and to extent gender is not your own and belongs to everybody else)... #...doesn't really mesh well with the idea that trans people should be able to live an autonomous life wherein their information is *theirs* #and can you see how for people who aren't trans but have an 'its complicated' with the broad 'what's in your pants?' would ALSO be hurt? #because even if you don't word it as such you still present the fundamental idea that - again - your sex and gender are required informatio #and that it must be judged to be 'accurate' so others can place you in whatever direction they want to treat you with #anyway lying about this shit isn't Inherently Evil and the idea that it's like. a boogeyman is weird actually

[gender-jargon]

[Image ID: Four images of the Erenth pride flag, created by Gent (Gender-Jargon). Image 1) is the nine-stripe flag. This flag has nine horizontal stripes of the same size. From top to bottom, the stripes are dark grey, peach, dark red, cream, desaturated light green, cream, dark red, peach and dark grey. Image 2) is the same nine-stripe flag, but with a centered, black double dagger obelus mark. Image 3) is the five-stripe simplified design. The simplified flag has five horizontal stripes of the same size. From top to bottom, the stripes are dark grey, peach, dark red, cream and desaturated light green. Image 4) is the same simplified flag, but with a centered, black double dagger obelus mark. ./. END ID]

Erenth: a term describing one who does not participate in the concept of gender, instead embracing the self-hood that proceeds the construct unencumbered.

[PT: Erenth: a term describing one who does not participate in the concept of gender, instead embracing the self-hood that proceeds the construct unencumbered. ./. END PT]

Etymology

[PT: Etymology ./. END PT]

"Ere", from Early Modern English, meaning "Before" + "-nth" from English, meaning "an unspecified/indefinitely large ordinal number".

Here, "before" refers to the intrinsic self that exists free of gender, a state that has not yet been evaluated or considered within the construct. "Ere" was chosen to represent existing outside the gender paradigm, much like "Ere" belongs to an earlier stage English. "Nth" is used as a suffix, but it refers to the infinitely large, variable, complex, convoluted, nebulous nature of gender identity.

Erenth was coined by Gent (Gender-Jargon) in April 2024.

Elaboration

[PT: Elaboration ./. END PT]

Erenth is not a gender identity, but rather a label used to describe individuals whose selfhood does not involve the construct of gender, identifying with a personal, individual albeit degendered selfhood instead. As such, an Erenth:

Does not have a gender identity in any way, shape or form.

Doesn't align themselves with any gender (unaligned).

Does not have a gender identity to conform to, bend or subvert.

May embody gendered roles without consideration to the concept of gender or may reject them all together.

Does not have a gender to express, thus lacking a gender expression.

Presents themselves without consideration to the concept of gender, instead seeking to make their presentation harmonious and congruent with their sense of self.

Uses (self-)referential language without consideration to the concept of gender, using whatever language they see fit.

In lacking a gender identity, likely do not self-describe using GLG orientations.

May have an internalized self-concept of sex that is degendered or may reject sex altogether.

May reject, eschew, subvert, ignore, transcend, be liberated from, be apathetic towards, be oblivious to or hold any stance, perspective or experience regarding the concept of gender that results in non-participation in the construct.

May or may not identify as Queer.

Is simply themselves, embodying the answer to the question, "Who Am I?" while also discarding the construct of gender entirely from the question.

[PT: Does not have a gender identity in any way, shape or form. Doesn't align themselves with any gender (unaligned). Does not have a gender identity to conform to, bend or subvert. May embody gendered roles without consideration to the concept of gender or may reject them all together. Does not have a gender to express, thus lacking a gender expression. Presents themselves without consideration to the concept of gender, instead seeking to make their presentation harmonious and congruent with their sense of self. Uses (self-)referential language without consideration to the concept of gender, using whatever language they see fit. In lacking a gender identity, likely do not self-describe using GLG orientations. May have an internalized self-concept of sex that is degendered or may reject sex altogether. May reject, eschew, subvert, ignore, transcend, be liberated from, be apathetic towards, be oblivious to or hold any stance, perspective or experience regarding the concept of gender that results in non-participation in the construct. May or may not identify as Queer. Is simply themselves, embodying the answer to the question, "Who Am I?" while also discarding the construct of gender entirely from the question. ./. END PT]

Some similar labels include:

Egogender

[PT: Egogender ./. END PT]

Both Egogender and Erenth individuals identify with an unique and individualistic sense of self, but differ in that the Erenth label is not a gender and does not participate in the construct.

Exogender

[PT: Exogender ./. END PT]

Both Exogender and Erenth individuals do not participate in the construct of gender, thus lacking a gender identity, but differ in that the Erenth label specifies an unique, individual sense of self one embraces entirely independent of the construct of gender identity. Exogender, while not truly being a gender identity by it's definition, attempts to fill the lexical gap by relating to the construct, where the Erenth label does not participate in it explicitly and outright.

Apogender

[PT: Apogender. ./. END PT]

Both Apogender and the Erenth label involve being divorced from the concept of gender, but differ in that Apogender is an Agender microlabel, whereas Erenth is not a gender identity and involves embracing the self.

Pomogender

[PT: Pomogender ./. END PT]

Both Pomogender and the Erenth label involve denying preexisting gender labels, but differ in that Erenth is not a gender identity, denies the entirety of the construct of gender and embraces a unique, individual sense of self outside of gender.

Cassgender

[PT: Cassgender ./. END PT]

Both Cassgender and the Erenth label may involve feeling indifferent towards the concept of gender, but differ in that Cassgender is a gender identity whereas the Erenth is not a gender identity, does not participate in the construct and specifically involves embracing a unique, individual sense of self outside of gender.

Yonderi

[PT: Yonderi ./. END PT]

Both Yonderi and Erenth are labels describing transcending gender, but differ in that the Erenth label also does not participate in or internalize the construct while also specifically embracing a unique, individual sense of self outside of gender. Erenth can be considered to have a yonderine quality, but doesn't have to.

Genderfree

[PT: Genderfree ./. END PT]

Both Genderfree and the Erenth label both refer to an undefined state where gender is not present, but unlike Genderfree, Erenth rejects the construct of gender in it's entirety, is not an ambiguous identity nor is it definitively queer in itself. Furthermore, an Erenth individual's identity is related to their sense of self, which is not specified by the label genderfree.

Pride Flag

[PT: Pride Flag ./. END PT]

The flag was created by myself (Gent, GJ) at the same time as the term. The flag has nine horizontal stripes of the same size. From top to bottom, the stripes are dark grey, peach, dark red, cream, desaturated light green, cream, dark red, peach and dark grey. The stripes have the following meanings:

The bottom and top dark grey stripes represent the lack of internalization of gender.

The two peach stripes represents complete non-participation in the construct of gender.

The two dark red stripes represents knowledge and conviction.

The two cream stripes represent one's values and ideals.

The middle desaturated light green stripe represents one's inner sense of self.

[PT: The bottom and top dark grey stripes represent the lack of internalization of gender.The two peach stripes represents complete non-participation in the construct of gender. The two dark red stripes represents knowledge and conviction.The two cream stripes represent one's values and ideals. The middle desaturated light green stripe represents one's inner sense of self. ./. END PT]

I also created a simplified, five-stripe version using the same colors and meaning as the nine-stripe flag. The simplified flag has five horizontal stripes of the same size. From top to bottom, they are dark grey, peach, dark red, cream and desaturated light green.

Glyph

[PT: Glyph ./. END PT]

As Erenth is not a gender, it does not have a planetary glyph associated with it. Instead, the Erenth identity is represented by the typographical obelus, styled as a double dagger mark, U+2021 (‡). The obelus represents, "an iron roasting spit, a dart, or the sharp end of a javelin, symbolizing the skewering or cutting out of dubious matter. (Wikipedia)", which is similar to the manner in which an Erenth individual embraces their selfhood (separated from gender), but not the construct of gender (the dubious matter). The double dagger mark was specified to represent a coupled rejection of gender and acceptance of the self.

#Erenth #mogai #microlabel #term #not gender #autonomous #egogender #exogender #apogender #pomogender #cassgender #yonderi #yonderine #genderfree #the self #identity #personal identity #pride flag #mogai gender #mogaireal #mogai safe #mogai positive #pro mogai #mogai friendly #mogai coining #liomogai #liom #nonbinary #anonbinary #trans

[ix-c-999]

i have a question about maverique and gender coining.

i'm an alter in a system who recently split and i pretty soon figured out the best word for my gender is "maverique" because i would describe it as a strong gendered feeling unrelated to anything about the gender binary and that autonomy and me just being me feels like a major part of it.

i know maverique was coined before xenogender was, so the definition of maverique didn't factor in the existence of xenogenders and thus i don't really have a clear picture on whether or not they "can" interact in the same gender or if you can coin a maverique gender (or if it's like singularian where by definition you can't mix it with anything).

so yeah is coining maverique genders a thing? like to me, there are things that my autonomous gendered feeling is connected to, and i'd want to use xenogender labels for them, but i'd feel them in a maverique way. i specify this on my gender collection so everyone understands what i mean when i use xenos, but i'd also like to have genders where maverique is actually a part of their original definition. i know that you can coin an "autonomous-in-nature" gender but can you associate it with the label of "maverique"?

(also i am aware that what i "can" or "can't" do with gender isn't really dictated by what other people think, but at the same time i recognize that maverique is a specific label coined to mean a specific thing, and i want to preserve the integrity of that label and not misunderstand how it works.)

#.txt #[pulsar] #maverique #autonomous gender #auingender #gender coining #mogai #personalposting

[coochiequeens]

Spain.....

By Nuria Muíña García February 29, 2024

A student organization at the Autonomous University of Barcelona (UAB) is calling for the expulsion of a prominent professor of Social Anthropology, alleging she was “transphobic.” The Socialist Youth Organization, also known as OJS, is demanding the termination of Dr. Silvia Carrasco, after she had been giving talks discussing the necessity of biological sex classifications in anthropology at the beginning of the semester.

On February 12, the OJS released a video on social media titled “let’s organize against transphobia.” In it, a female student read a speech targeting Carrasco and slamming the university for allowing “untouchable academic freedom” on sensitive subjects.

“Today, classes return to the UAB campus, ideological control returns, reactionary and transphobic speeches return to our classrooms,” she said. “Under the banner of untouchable academic freedom, they allow professors to impart content under ideological and scientific criteria, turning the classroom into a space for the production and legitimization of reactionary and… transphobic speeches… typical of social democratic politics, narratives that try to explain gender oppression from a sexual essentialism from biologist positions.”

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By Nuria Muíña García March 6, 2024

Concerns about “trans fraud” have emerged after dozens of male civil servants in one small community changed their gender identity reportedly just to get benefits allocated for females. The wave of gender change approvals follows the implementation of the Trans Law, which eased the regulations surrounding legal identity changes.

In the small, autonomous city of Ceuta alone, it has been revealed that 37 male civil servants have changed their legal gender. Of them, the vast majority are associated with the Military, National Police, Civil Guard, or Local Police, and these new “females” have curiously all chosen to retain their male names and continue their lives “as men.”

One of the men has come forward to boast of his success, stating that he changed his legal gender after the Trans Law was implemented in Spain in March of 2023.

Roberto Perdigones, a 35-year-old Army corporal, changed his legal sex to “female” after deciding he identified as an “intersex bigender” person. Perdigones explained that “externally, I am a straight man and internally a lesbian woman.”

Perdigones says he first discovered that changing his registered sex would afford him benefits after reading an update in the National Police Exam syllabus with a list of “possible” gender identities one may have. Perdigones found a gender description he felt he matched, so pursued the change.

“On the outside, I feel like a heterosexual man, but inside I am a lesbian woman, which is what prevails. That’s why I made the legal change to female,” he says. “I did it because I could,” Perdigones admitted to El Español.

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#Spain #Autonomous University of Barcelona (UAB) #The Socialist Youth Organization known as OJS #Dr. Silvia Carrasco is telling the truth #untouchable academic freedom #Trans fraud #Men abusing gender identity laws #Trans Law #Ceuta #Transbian

[klapollo]

idk i feel very lucky to have been raised by women across multiple generations who modeled wanting respect and balance in their marriages who never told me or even implied that bending over backwards for a husband was my lot in life and that i was never supposed to take serving men on the chin. my dad's mother is like that but thankfully my mom's mother is the one who raised me and she made a woman running the show and being respected and loved by her family and not submitting to her husband natural to me growing up and im so grateful for that

#im also grateful i have a dad who for all his flaws never discouraged me from being autonomous #or told me i had to hinge my worth on a man #i wasnt cognizant of patriarchy in my earliest years bc i was never really beholden to gender roles in big ways at home

[beeapocalypse]

gotta get back into sci fi. spend too much time thinking abt dragons what about 3d printed skeletal structures and shit

#unfortunately the last scifi book i read (autonomous by annalee newitz) was SUCH a stinker i still have not been able to look at the-- #--anthologies sitting on my shelf. there were a couple good short stories from how far id gotten into one but there were also a couple-- #--of ones that were weird abt sex and NOT in the fun way. aughhhhh #whenever i get a book that has promise to do weirdfun stuff w gender + sexuality it instead ends up being shitty. got a book abt a ship-- #--ai transferred into a human body on a quest for revenge that im scared to pop open in case it is bad

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Viramoric Maverique Pride Flag

Maverique: an abinary allogender/aporagender identity; a gender that is not the absence of gender, or an apathy towards gender, but a present feeling of gender, completely independent from male, female, neutral, or anything derived from any of them.

Viramoric: a diamoric term for binaryn't (genderqueer/nonbinary) individuals who are exclusively or primarily attracted to men.

#comgender #allogender #aporagender #abinary gender #maverique #gendermaverick #unorthodox #autonomous #auingender #pride flags #mvingender #mvin #aingender #abingender #nonbinary #nonbin #abin #toric #nlm #nblm #mod ap #viramoric #vir- #gqlm

[onconstellationstreetmp3]

i loveee genderswapping characters but people who do it lazily piss me offf theyre like yeah we changed the pronouns & genitals & made them conform to that gender & thats it & dont even stop to consider the fucking Implications like what are their thoughts on gender what are their thoughts on gender presentation how did growing up as that gender effect them how does it change the storys themes how does it enhance the storys themes how does it change the relationships they have? cmon guys

#me.txt #📔 #why girl michael rots my brain so hard isnt just because shes hot its also because theres sooo much in the godfather about gender & autonom #& societal vs familial expectations & yr relationship to yr family & people outside of the family & how you present yrself #so thats why im oscillating back & forth about her design because i cant just make her girly & call it a day NO i need to THINK about this!

[dashiellqvverty]

the sims going from letting everyone being bisexual by default in the year 2000 to adopting the split attraction model as a game mechanic in 2022 is literally so many steps backwards i cannot even begin to describe how mad it makes me

#like i had mods for setting gender preferences bc like #yeah if i have a sim who is a character i think of as gay i don’t want them to autonomously pursue straight relationships #but ATTRACTION SPLITTING??? IN 2022??? #you’re about 7 years too late to this one ea #r.txt

[outherworldlycoining]

Maverique-style autonomique flag + autonomique-style maverique flag

Maverique style autonomique flag.

[ID: A flag with three horizontal stripes, each of a different colour. These are, from top to bottom: red, white, and lime. /END ID]

2. Autonomique style maverique flag

[ID: A flag with four horizontal stripes, each of a different colour. From top to bottom, these are: yellow, white, orange, and brown. /END ID]

I choose brown as brown is a shade/the name of dark orange. It is related to orange in a similar way lime (yellow-ish green or green-ish yellow) is related to yellow (a colour present on the original autonomique flag)

I made this flags re-designs just for fun.

[PT: I made this flags re-designs just for fun]

#maverique #autonomique #flags #autonomous genders #outherine genders #maverine

[severalowls]

Looking through the tag of the book I just finished and finding some truly horrendous takes from the apparently very real 'depiction is endorsement' crowd. One of the characters who is essentially the antagonist of the story having major internalized homophobia and dealing with it in a kind of dubious way which is entirely in keeping with the Themes of identity and self determination/lack thereof? Homophobic trash!!!!

#anyway big fan of autonomous by annalee newitz #the other thing people kept flipping out over is the incredibly intentional cyberpunk bullshit slang by one of the POV characters #honey if u dont want bullshit slang this isnt your genre!!! #spoilers for people also calling it transphobic: said antagonist deals with his homophobia by #assigning a gender to a completely genderless character who literally could not care less either way #and i dooo think there's some projecting from those critics about an agender character being she/herred #the author is nb and moves widely in trans circles and personally i read half the damn characters as trans bc its made explicitly easy to #cw for csa and rape though it does deal with some heavy shit at various points

[gender-jargon]

Also what's an autonomous gender? /gen

Previous ask from user pirategracey:

I was browsing your Tumblr since you liked my post and you coined intragender, a gender modality I use. That's so cool /gen

Hey there! I'm so happy you found one of my terms to be helpful for you.

To paraphrase my original definition of autonomous gender, it refers to a gender experience that is 1) self-determined, 2) independent from outside governance as well as 3) a sense of freedom regarding one's actions, wills or desires.

In other words, this means that autonomous genders are fully defined by oneself, without the imposition of outside structures and authorities (systemic or interpersonal). This can be expressed in numerous ways, such as a Maverique, Autonomique or Egogender identity.

Gender autonomy can also extend to those who have individualistically redefined preexisting, heteronomic roles, identities and/or presentations. To rephrase, non-autonomous gender experiences can be reconceptualized through one's selfhood and/or liberation of the self.

Autonomy as a nature of gender can be kinda confusing. If you need clarification or have any other questions, please don't hesitate to send me another ask! :-)

- Gent

#auingender #autonomique #maverique #egogender #auin #gender autonomy #autonomous gender #mogai #mogai safe #mogai positive #pro mogai #mogai friendly #liom #microlabel #trans #transgender #Non-binary #ask #anon

[angerissue]

Six months before the battle of Sokovia, Bruce had sought professional help for his PTSD, but then he was retraumatized during a routine mission with the Avengers. In consequence, his body started to reject his normal form in favour of his transformed one, which caused discomfort whenever he was in his normal form. He felt tense and off, like he was in the wrong skin, and he began favouring his transformed state. This drew the concern of Natasha Romanoff, who discovered a method to help him revert without discomfort. She called it the "lullaby".

During the lullaby, Natasha rested her hand against Bruce's own, and she spoke softly and quietly to him. This made him feel more relaxed, and therefore more comfortable and willing to revert.

🚨 This post discusses gender biases associated with abuse and trauma.

🚫 Please do not reblog this post.

I. Why Natasha Romanoff?

Among Bruce's teammates, Natasha was the only person who could perform the lullaby on him. This wasn't because he liked or loved her, though. He appreciated her as a teammate and found her amicable, but if Bruce liking someone was the only requirement for the lullaby, it would have worked with his other teammates too, and this was not the case. Rather, Bruce has always been more comfortable around people who present as women, especially when it comes to conflicts and confrontations. His father was abusive, and confrontations with him never ended soundly, so Bruce becomes uncomfortable during disagreements with other men now. There's an internalized association with Brian's abuse. This intensifies when he's in a transformed state. When he initially refused to revert and his teammates tried reasoning with him, he was hostile to everyone but Natasha, partly because of the above association. Natasha’s behaviour was another reason for Bruce's favourable response. She'd been observing him and noticed he wasn't receptive to his other teammates, so she tried a drastically different approach that was calmer and way more passive, using her knack for psychological manipulation to accomplish it without coming across as fraudulent. Natasha spoke quietly and encouragingly, and she reached out and made physical contact with Bruce as well, which his teammates had not done. It was a strategic move, and it paid off better than she expected. Bruce did not pull away or fight her, and he soon reverted. Unbeknownst to Natasha, when Bruce was still a boy, his mother often held his hand and spoke gently to comfort him, which Natasha had mirrored. Just like his other association, this association was stronger in his transformed state, too. Natasha understood her actions had been successful, and this became the lullaby.

II. Bruce’s Thoughts.

Bruce never considered the above reasons for the lullaby’s success, even after it was retired. Instead, he credited its success to Natasha merely being clever, and knowing enough tactics from her years of espionage (and interrogation) that she could easily find something that worked with him. Bruce never knew there was a personal component to it, or that it harkened back to his childhood, and he never knew other people would've reacted differently, and been more resistant to what she did. Despite the lullaby's success and convenience for both Bruce and the Avengers, Bruce had mixed feelings about it. He was appreciative of its existence, because it served an important purpose and it was even therapeutic in a sense, though he had always been an extremely self-reliant person, and the lullaby made it difficult not to feel dependent on Natasha. He was frustrated that he was losing control of his body in the first place too, moreso because it reminded him of the issues he'd previously had with his condition. There was a lot of uncertainty. The lullaby was indeed useful in the moment, but he dreaded the thought of needing it down the road. Bruce's reversion issues were ultimately a result of his PTSD relapse, which was successfully treated with medication once he returned from Fiji. Bruce had not considered medication before this, because his discomfort was exclusive to his normal form and didn't affect his transformed state, so he believed the problem was directly related to his condition, rather than his mental health. He had been very confident in his recovery up to that point, and even after the last disastrous mission, he never thought it was significant enough to impede him that much. If he'd asked his teammates for input, especially Tony, who also had PTSD, he may have gained more perspective, but he was reticent about his personal issues and never bothered.

III. The Lullaby Nowadays.

Natasha Romanoff is no longer around in Bruce's most recent verse, because she had died during the team's search for the infinity stones. However, if she were still around, the lullaby probably wouldn't work anymore. There was a moment during the battle of Sokovia where Bruce wanted to sit out the fight, because of certain concerns with his condition, but Natasha forced him to fight anyways. Bruce still respects Natasha as a tactical expert, and part of him understands why she used him like this, but her actions in Sokovia created new associations that counteract how the lullaby worked. Bruce never fully regained his trust in her, and this would render the lullaby ineffective now.

IV. Where was Hulk?

Simply put, Hulk was still a dormant and passive personality in the system. He couldn't front at the time, because he still hadn't developed enough for it. This finally happened during the Johannesburg incident, six months later, when the conditions were right. Not only was Bruce forced to relive his childhood trauma because of Wanda Maximoff's hex, but he transformed when this happened as well, a process that effectively puts him into a developmental state (which also put Hulk's own development back into the blender). Before the Johannesburg incident, Hulk was around in an imperceptible capacity, but he wouldn't have been able to front or influence Bruce.

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#( headcanon. ) #( essential. ) #this is the same idea as someone refusing to see a therapist of the same gender presentation as their abuser. #or being uncomfortable in a room full of a certain gender because of previous bad experiences. #it's a very subtle thing. #bruce's issues also stem from his experiences with ross. #canonically when bruce was working on his gamma experiments he took his childhood doll and a photo of his mom to the test site. #when ross saw the doll he tore off its arm. then he said he admired bruce's father and called him a 'real man'. #which was so messed up because the guy was incarcerated for killing his wife. #so there's a whole thing about authority figures and toxic masculinity and men in general and it's all mixed up in bruce's head. #fortunately he's had many positive experiences with men since then and he's not as uncomfortable as he used to be. #he feels more autonomous and less like he's under their thumbs. maybe a little less threatened. #that said... there's a reason hulk fronted when bruce was angrily approached by bucky. and when bruce was being yelled at by tony. #both of which happened way after the lullaby was retired. #and that reason is? bruce still has issues. #abuse mention cw

[tanadrin]

I have nothing to add to the Maintenance Phase episode on Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, which is very good, except that (so far, I’m only about halfway through) they have not stressed what I think is the most obvious objection to parents’ transphobic bullshit, which is that 1) parents are often (obviously, in the case of many ROGD anecdotes) deeply emotionally invested in their child’s gender and gender presentation, and 2) most parents don’t know shit about their adolescent children’s inner lives. Indeed, many parents rarely seem to imagine that they *have* inner lives, and will struggle even when their children are adults to treat them like fully autonomous human beings. It is easy to be surprised by someone’s behavior when you invest very little energy in understanding them as a person in the first place.

#not much new in the ep if you have been following this issue for a while #but I appreciate the way Hobbes and Gordon calmly and analytically dissect it

[molsno]

whenever a "well-meaning" tme person starts criticizing trans women for being overly sexual or consuming too much porn or whatever it's obvious they're full of shit and a transmisogynist but it always feels so cruel because a lot of us genuinely did have no other option besides porn to explore transfemininity. like maybe that sounds gross to you but how the fuck do you think it feels growing up your entire life with your ONLY exposure to trans womanhood being fetishistic and dehumanizing porn? do you know how badly that fucks with our minds? how much trauma that leaves us with? have you ever even considered it?

it's so easy for you to sit there and look down on us for being "addicted to porn". of course it is, because it's people like you who created the conditions that banned us from every other avenue of gender expression by calling us sissies and faggots and beating us for something as simple as growing out our hair. if you don't like it maybe you should fucking do something to make it safe for the people around you to explore transfemininity in non-sexual settings. I know you won't, though, because it's much easier to call us pornsick males and laugh at us for being unable to conceptualize ourselves as fully autonomous human beings with value beyond just how sexually desirable we are as fetish objects.

it's fucking infuriating honestly. they'll say they don't believe any of those things and then start talking about how their criticisms of "porn addiction" come from concerns about how it objectifies "females". you know, REAL females, not like those "porn-addicted males- I mean trans women". they're so close to saying the quiet part out loud and it's not fucking subtle at all. next time you wanna talk about how disgusted you are by trannies jerking off why don't you go tell it to your crypto-terf besties, I'm sure they'll happily agree with you.

#kvetching #transmisogyny #1k