#but their subtext is what makes the ship

[mister-eames]

im in SHAMBLES cause i always knew that the original security is gonna run you down line was between Arthur and Dom but was given to A/E later but only now I got to know that it was not “be back before the kick” in the original script but actually “be back in time for the kick” from Dom!! Be back in in time for the kick is not asking to be safe it’s actually a command or a direction; and it’s further cemented by Arthur’s reply in script; it’s “I’m on it” .. it matches their dynamic from the beginning, professional with cobb sort of calling the shots. But when mr Nolan gave it to A/E he had to change it?? Cause it doesn’t match this married couple??? So he made it be back BEFORE the kick with a thinly veiled “ BE SAFE BABE”???? And GO TO SLEEP MR EAMES ?? Meaning don’t worry about me darling I’ll be there???!!!!!! My head hurts??????

It still blows my mind how it was originally Arthur and Cobb having this moment in the script and Nolan, presumably like us, was captivated by the chemistry and quiet story of Arthur and Eames, and changed the characters around! It's a perfect bookend to their snarky beginnings, to the shot of them planning the job, you know the one, where it focuses on Arthur and Eames for "...we all yearn for reconciliation..." to this exchange. Nolan knew it was necessary, in case the audience was wondering, Arthur and Eames got their reconciliation. That we got to see them full circle.

Because the way it was scripted with Cobb was between friends/comrades. Arthur reaffirming to Cobb he can be trusted, that he's got his back despite what occurred and was revealed the level above. Lovely. But so much about Cobb and Arthur's friendship is not said in so many words. It really wasn't necessary. It didn't lend any sort of closure to the characters journey's to have this scene play out, it just didn't make sense.

The fact that the script had to change along with their characters so that Arthur and Eames could flirt and smile at each other and 'be back before the kick', and 'uh-huh go to sleep' like COME ON. It's the contrast from all their other scenes - the banter and teasing, Eames laughing at Arthur's kick tests - this scene was so gentle, so soft and so quiet. In the same way Eames didn't need to help Arthur with the projections in level one, Arthur did not have to help Eames with his cannula. He didn't need to flick Eames fingers away and help him above anyone else. Arthur very much chose to help out so they could have these sweet nothings this quiet talk.

Every time someone tries to reduce Arthur/Eames down to 'darling' I feel like the Will Smith meme pointing at all the rest of it. Like, are we all not seeing this?? It kills me. This scene kills me -- it's so important to their relationship and themselves as individual characters,

#every fic that has arthur and eames leaving LAX together is correct #these two make me sick they're so sweet #arthur x eames #inception #not to say that 'darling' isn't important it is #but their subtext is what makes the ship

[booasaur]

Special Ops: Lioness

#specialopslionessedit #special ops lioness #special ops: lioness #aaliyah amrohi #cruz manuelos #stephanie nur #laysla de oliveira #special ops lioness 1x06 #special ops lioness spoilers #aaliyah x cruz #femslash related stuff #muslim lgbt #lol putting this together made me realize three things #they keep being vague and wrong about the date and time of the wedding #there are so many things that seem to be pointing to aaliyah not making it out of this :< #and that aaliyah is actually just so very lovely and kind and stephanie nur really is doing so well with all her different layers #but man this is one of those ships that has what people love about popular subtext f/f pairings but is also canon #a central transformative dynamic the whole show hinges on #a connection unlike any either has with anybody else #let's see now that they've set it up where they take it #lol I mean we'e all absolutely expecting a bad end but can at least they both survive...

[redysetdare]

I always find it interesting that homosexual coded main characters don't really get shipped with every single side character of the opposite gender. And people get told off for shipping lesbian coded characters with men or gay coded characters with women by the rest of the fandom. But it's always aroace coded main characters getting shipped with every single side character that exists. And aroace fans getting told to "not generalise the entire aspec community" and "let people ship whomever they want!! It's just fiction!!!" as if we don't deserve to see characters living happy lives not being in relationships. And my biggest pet peeve is the trope of an aroace coded character "growing up and maturing" by... getting in a romantic/sexual relationship. Really shows what these people think about non-partnering aspec people irl. It's not just about fictional characters but they'll never admit it 🤷

I will say that there are some idiots out there who do ship gay characters with the opposite sex because they believe in people being able to ship whatever they want (which can lead to some disturbing places but I digress) But those kinds of ships do get a lot more push back and the same people who get after people for changing characters from gay to straight do not have the same energy when it happens to aro /aroace characters.

These same people are the ones calling for representation and how we treat characters identities in fiction does reflect how we view those identities in the real world EXCEPT when it comes to aspec characters. Suddenly then it's "fiction doesn't effect reality!!!" there's some double standards happening and it's beyond frustrating that no one seems to even notice and get mad at us for pointing it out.

Not to mention it's incredibly funny to hear them cry "Don't generalize the community" while they generalize the community by acting like every aro/ace/aroace person can date and have sex - which like you said ignored the existence of non-partnering identities and I'd like to add it also erases repulsed identities.

None of these people actually care about the aspecs who date or have sex. they don't actually care how those identities work or those experiences at all. they're using them as a get out of jail free card. a loop hole. a "I can't be homophobic because I have a gay best friend" card. They don't care about QPRs and how those relationships can be experience in wildly different ways. All they care about is if they get to have two characters kiss without having to genuinely look at themselves and their biases and possibly have the revelation that they might hold bigoted beliefs about aspec people.

And at this point I'd rather them admit that they don't actually care about aspec identities or experiences instead of tying themselves into knots to try and prove "I'm not aphobic!!!!" because they actively tried to find a loop hole to make it so that they could feel superior and in the right for being able to erase an entire identity of people.

#asks #aro #ace #aromantic #asexual #aroace #like it becomes incredibly obvious when the same people who claim not liking female characters #can reflect real like misogynistic views on women are the same people #who are saying that “it's just fiction it doesn't hurt anyone” when it comes to shipping aroace/aro characters #like okay so do how people treat fictional characters reflective of beliefs they have in the real world or not #What makes the treatment of one identity in fiction reflective of reality and the treatment of another identity 'just fiction'. quickly. #at what point is it 'just fiction that doesn't hurt anyone' and at what point is it 'fiction hurts real people'. quickly #and I've already made a post about how people can only interact with media through shipping and how that's caused a decrease #in media literacy and critical thinking in general because people are viewing media through an incredibly narrow view #and warping or ignoring the main message of the media in favor of a romantic narrative that doesn't exist #and i could say more about how that makes people ignore aspec coding and subtext of characters and stories #but these tags are long as is and so is this post #in the end it's all just amatonormative allonormative aphobic bullshittery #and i'm incredibly tired of it #long post #long post with equally long tags #i have a lot of subthoughts that i dont wanna try and fit in the main post #might make more posts about these thoughts. probably will. no one can shut me up.

[sylvies-kablooie]

”what if sylki isn’t endgame” rest assured i will not go anywhere. i will blog regardless. i Will continue to make playlists and write analysis and maybe even fanfiction. canon has no effect on me. you cannot get rid of me that easily. if only it were that easy.

#as always you can ship whatever on this blog but u know where I stand on this matter #i was in the clintasha trenches in 2016 you literally cannot defeat me #as if something as simple as canon could flick off the switch of what my brain needs to think about!!! #I understand the sadness people feel over things not going the way they want and I feel it too #You just personally cannot get me to stop analyzing every inch of subtext #If i had ae i would make edits. You want edits? Find me ae!! And you can have them. #loki #loki series #loki tv show #Sylki #pro sylki #loki x sylvie #sylkie

[putonmyfavoriteshow]

I just rewatched a bunch of Supercorp fanvids and now my brain is rotting so hard from dormant feelings rising. I forgot how much they owned my heart. How did they inadvertently create the most heart-shattering, beautiful, romantic storyline featuring actors with the most palpable on screen chemistry I- 😭

#even if you viewed them platonic how do you not see them as having one of the most important and significant dynamics in the series??? #obviously the danvers sisters is up there #but there's not a single romantic partner kara had that changed her as person the way lena did and vice versa SHE LITERALLY TELLS HER THAT #and lena wasn't a villain she was a morally grey anti-hero but kara never stopped believing in her even when others did #she was the reason lena stayed on the side of good and made their storyline so appealing #and lena was genuinely such a good friend to kara before kara's betrayal #she just got hurt and made bad choices but even kara forgave her because she understood why #and lena really went out of her way to make up for her mistakes to earn kara's trust back #but they also were so romantically coded #the number of parallels between other cw hero ships was insane for what was supposedly a 'friendship' #like on one side sure i'll accept they were 'just friends' in canon #but on the other side there were so many production choices that framed them as a couple IN CANON #non-canon can simply be subtext but supercorp was so blaringly romantic in context i feel like a crazy person rewatching their scenes #if you made it this far have a cookie🍪 #supercorp

[thrilling-oneway]

Prsktwt is crazy not to sound like a boomer but you guys need irl social interaction more. And also to learn what the big words you use actually mean.

#prsk why did you have to become mainstream #also god can you guys shut up about shipping sometimes. not in the don’t ship anything/talk about it ever way but in the NOT EVERYTHING IS #ABOUT IT way #you don’t need to bring your ship into places you don’t need to. your ship doesn’t have to be canon/otherwise hinted at for you to like it s #stop making shit up oh my days. ALSO READ THE FUCKING STORY before you even open your mouths to talk about what’s in the text #please just enjoy the actual game #and also learn what subtext is fucking hell

[nerevar-quote-and-star]

New crackship idea: Jolinar x Ancano

Nin, I love the way you think.

Truly the most hilarious of all possible Jolinar ships.

#imagine your dad has this obnoxious coworker and you enjoy harassing the crap out of him because he's annoying as all get out #but then you and said coworker accidentally make out in the library one (1) time and now its all a game of cat and mouse #except you're both the mouse because why would either of you admit to finding the other attractive???? #they're both uber blond idiots like their brain cells were bleached out of their head #and also there may be weird subtext between your dad and his coworker but what's that got to do with the price of marshmerrow in mournhold? #anyway i digress #oc: jolinar aren #ancano #now taking suggestions for ship names #azura's ask box

[chuckyray]

Kinda funny you call that Edd/Felix person a freak while you literally ship incest lol

yes because an 11yo child who died in a horrific accident at the hands of his 40yo uncle that has absolutely no indication or subtext of abuse in the story is in anyway comparable to pavi and luigi largo from repo the genetic opera or the sawyer twins from the texas chainsaw massacre. get off my blog.

#idk what ever gave anyone the impression id ever be okay with child x adult ships. seek help! #huge difference between grown ass adult brothers who have severe trauma and incestous subtext and This. #also thats my nephew. thats my nephew you people are claiming id ever lay a hand on in that way and it makes me fucking sick #asks

[nosferatufaggot]

It's very easy to make me ship straight people. Just make it subtext that you are also trying to skirt around the hire ups getting on you about it.

#This is about Ian and Barbara. #It's good because the BBC didn't want romance in their family show. So it's completely subtext. #Small thing truly make me ship people. #Like Courtney and Cameron in Stargirl? #Didn't ship it at all until the last episode and I'm so mad it got cancelled cuz I was finally on board with the main pairing. #As soon as Cameron used Courtney's staff in a quick way to elevate his own fighting style it was OVER! #I was like 'Oh they are subconciously working together and playing into each other's strengths to win the battle.' and that's what got me. #AND THEN IT WAS OVER WHAT THE HELL! #I think the exception to the rule is Cleo and Deuce. Because they are Cleo and Deuce.

[daisyachain]

my stance on k/k is that the Haruhi Suzumiya novels are a charming, enjoyable genre blend of romance, sci-fi, and magical realism. Koizumi is a sparkling mixer to the heady main story as our main explicator and expositionist. He's a well-spoken narrator who verbalizes the more complex concepts at play in the stories, making them a summer cocktail rather than a stiff shot. Kyon is the trope-defining sardonic narrator who gives shape to the story and is the one to ultimately sell the Haruhi Suzumiya series to us as the reader. Between the two of them, Koizumi and Kyon tell us the story of Haruhi and they are instrumental in what we-the-audience make of events. Their dynamic between the true believer and the sceptic, the fake smile and the fake frown, the obfuscator and the denier, is great just on its own when taken at face value. I'm quite content to just read them as two characters who don't like each other very much and whose relationship is limited to mild antagonism over a girl they both love. I would do just that, if Tanigawa Nagaru wanted it. However in the year of our lord 2020, after closing the Kyon/Yuki subplot, after jossing any Kyon/Mikuru speculation, after committing fully to the Kyon/Haruhi romance in the story, he writes Koizumi having psychic foreknowledge of Kyon's measurements and expects us to make nothing of it. Huh.

#kelsey liveblogs haruhi suzumiya #genuinely i do not know what to make of the k/k in the novels. it's lampshaded multiple times by kyon as #'sorry tails if this looks gay to the viewers'/'miss me with that shit i am straight. i am straight.' #in fact it's lampshaded so often that it's impossible to read the books without being forced to have an opinion on the matter #one argument: there was a bunch of k/k shipping after the first couple novels and tanigawa got so sick of it he decided to address the fans #sure fine occam's razor most simple answer is the most likely #it's still a fact that the entire plot of the novels plays out in subtext. subtext is important in haruhi suzumiya. #hell. the main canonical romance is buried in the subtext. #therefore. for kyon and koizumi's relationship to have so many loaded moments #for those moments to continue across the books. for the idea of them liking each other to be explicitly addressed (if shot down) #AND for the cast dynamic to be a 1:1 evangelion ripoff with haruhi as asuka and koizumi as kaworu #it's hard not to read into it. it is an actual task to try and picture kyon and koizumi's dynamic without some UST

[caruliaa]

zukka is kinda wild to me a little bit just bc like. atla has been ever for so *so* much longer than cs and yet a ship for it w minimal amnts of actual canon subtext outside one episode regularly takes up an insane amnt of my dashboard meanwhile carulia has like. the level of overt romantic subtext as a if a hypothetical different show had a relationship intended to be made officially romantic in the last season of a show only for that season to get botched somewhat due to quarantine and yet im the only one making content for it even semi regularly

#TO CLARIFY. I TIHNK ZUKKA IS GOOD AND CUTE AND FINE AND IK THIS IS IN PART BC THE ATLA FANDOM IS BIGGER #im jsut using zukka as an example yk #esp bc i remeber ppl arguing over shit like 'the red roses isnt romantic >:(( its just carmens colour !!' #and its jsut insane to me bc like. iv seen ppl be anti zukka somewhat but never anyone argue its bc of a lack of subtext #and its jsut inanse bc i see huge long posts on the dynamic of zukka and im like. babygirl where are u getting that from other than boiling #rock #meaningwhile iv seen like 3 semi long posts on the carulia dynamic evne when ppl see that theyre gay they dont wanna put in the work #to see shit thats write in front of them in regards to theure dynamic or at least talk abt it #AGAIN THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO W ZUKKA PERSONALLY IM V GLAD FOR EVERYONE MAKING POSTS LIKE THAT GO ZUKKA SHIPPER GO !!!!!!!!!! #im just using it as an example #actually i feel like i get this from luce saying to me 'like i thought carulia wld be like zukka like its the popular gay ship #but it doesnt have a lot in canon subtext but it isnt its actually like. insanly obvious' #(<- IM PARAPHRASING IF UR A MAD ZUKKA SHIPPER PLS DIRECT UR HATE TOWARDS ME NOT THEM PLEASEEE TY) #but also a lot of it is more just like. how fandoms treat mlm ships vs wlw ships.but idk maybe im justt being dumb #(ALSO THE LAYWERS OF @CARULIAA.ORG WOULD LIKE TO CALRIFY THAT THEY DO INFACT BELEIVE THAT ZUKKA HAS SOME CANON ROMANTIC SUBTEXT #MOSTLY WITHIN THE EPISODE 'THE BOILLING ROCK' BUT THAT THEY ARE HAPPY AND GLAD FOR ANYONE WHO FINDS ANY BOTH WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THAT EPISOD #AND THAT ONCE AGAIN THEY ARE SIMPLY USING ZUKKA MORE AS AN EXAMPLE) #(thats a joke i dont have laywers. obvs. but its kinda funny) #but also what do i know iv never even read the the prince and the fool thingy FGHDFHDFHDF #anyway. i just realised idk if tumblr still puts post in a tag if u mention them within ur tags. if so im like DEAD #oh well #tbh i more want my zukka mutuals to know i love their zukka posting !!! keep at it im just using u as an example while studying fandom stuf #also ik the lack of carulia content thing is kinda my fault but also at least im trying to make more !!! no one else is is the tihng #but i Am i have an amv in the works rn !!!!! and a fic in my brain #also the big group animatic kinda uh. forgot abt that ig other ppl are also working on carulia stuff. sorry #<//3 #anyway it soo late. been listieng to our love is god on loop did u kno tht jd just killed kurt and ram omg dont do that !!!!!! #flappy rambles

[maddy-ferguson]

c'mon i hate those takes lmao. that's partly why ppl think we are delusional when we mention about the love triangle imagery or parallels. not that i 'care' about when others say but it is just annoying when we talk about the context of the show and the imagery, and ppl just dismiss them because they think they are nonsense, and trying to find some 'parallels' or 'clues' in stddie and comparing it to byler makes byler seem like a ship that has no actual content whatever, because it is being put in the same position as other fanon ships even though it is vastly different.

it's sooo annoying i like a good fanon gay ship and a good queer hc that will never be canon but it's so irritating to see people act like they're anything alike when they're really not...even in the first seasons when they would've been considered a fanon ship with no chance of being canon byler had a crazy amount of subtext, which i'll admit is difficult to achieve when characters barely know each other/when one character dies and the other one doesn't even mention it and is instead busy feeling sorry for himself when his ex girlfriend reunites with her boyfriend of a year and a half etc

but obviously as soon as a ship is gay it's seen as a baseless fanon ship👍 so i think people would've thought we were delusional either way lol

#what good fanon gay ship and good queer hc do you like marianne? um well uh uh you see #in stranger things not that many actually #it's so funny i was gonna say when they only have one one-on-one interaction and then i realized that that also applies to s1 byler. which #goes to show that you don't even need them to interact 24/7 for there to be subtext it's just that with stddie there's...nothing #which is fine it's just different. which makes it very annoying when people act like they were equally likely to happen in the show lol #and people acting like the will robin framed between the straight couple thing legit happenned with eddie too is a hate crime TO ME #do they not know how much pain these shots have caused me. where were they for the first few days after volume 2 #like these shots especially #i know it's not that serious and like it's funny kind of but it stopped being funny when i saw people act like it was...intentional? #it's such a stretch he's literally just. standing there lol #ask

[lemememeringue]

"you just always have to make everything gay" ... I've literally never talked abt this kind of stuff w you before

#mine #YouShouldBlacklistThisKindOfThing #mum asked me what I was watching and it was a clip from house md and I idly commented that a show can only make the same gay joke #so many times before it's actual subtext #and I got hit w ''they're just friends'' which idc about bc this is a tv show I'm not dying on this shipping discourse hill WITH MY MOTHER #but then she said that. and I'm bothered. #bc yanno I worked rly rly hard to never bring up sexuality unwarranted ESPECIALLY in speculation #I don't talk to her abt ships. I eschew romance and sex in media and irl. I don't tell anyone what I'm into or crushes I've had. #AND I'M STILL TOO FRUITY #IF I'D KNOWN SHE THOUGHT OF ME AS THAT FLAMBOYANT I WOULDN'T HAVE TRIED TO HIDE #all this WORK I put into being unassuming and casual and it's ''everything's gay with you'' !!!

[welcometoteyvat]

witch hat atelier AU in which Kaeya fits almost TOO well as Qifrey and idk who Olruggio would be (mr. K does not interact with enough normal humans)

#genshin impact #this makes no sense if you haven't read the manga (-> please do though it's really very good. stan a.gott) #anyways just blueprint kaeya's personality onto qif and give it a few tweaks regarding insecurities，then make his cryo powers turn into magi #magic water powers instead and now you know qif's backstory #teyvat thoughts #kaeya #also i think diluc would be nice as ol/ruggio (doesn't fit as much but he works.) but im also scared of shipping discourse </3 #(what's a little subtext between two guys huh? especially the kind where your elements parallel each other and your personality subverts it?

[earlgreybocchan]

Animating this season like you can't have the slightest bit of jest and god forbid jesting about yaoi

#can't even jokingly say slurs like saying fag instead of drudge wasn't The joke #like ciel took his earrings out at school right he was trying to be normal at normal boy school and they are all using slurs in their... #...everyday social setup their whole social world within the school at least relies on every important guy having a guy who will do... #...anything for him which is literally ciel's entire bit but normie #anyway whatever i am not going to explicate every joke at play here but what really annoys me about the shojo sparkles joke getting cut... #...is that it's being used in different places like vincent got shojo sparkles yesterday and ciel's at the beginning but like that is... #...supposed to be the joke-y indicator this is NOT normie shojo school so why did these have to get animated so FLAT #like you mean you can't imply any subtext about ciel bc it would be problematic. this is a story that is literally ABOUT people playing... #...at who they are not. the whole series and every character is set on that premise. and you're going to cultivate an environment where... #...viewers accept that any kind of subtext at all is inherently problematic and needs cut from the story #like they could have cut more and i am interested to see how they're going to handle things like ciel getting carried off of the field. but #it's more uncomfortable to me to be like no being a gay teenager is inherently problematic actually he can't be gay but he can be... #...straight engaged to his cousin in earnest even though the narrative has established how that is fake too. #and not dipping into the whole sebastian thing fully but then you have a setup where you have made it unacceptable to tell any gay story... #...that might be slightly problematic even though here it genuinely is a lot of subtext you have to understand that there is subtext to get #and there is the element here with them too where they are liars and they are playacting. that's part of what makes the story so complex... #...and interesting!! is trying to decipher who is lying and why the world they live in makes them have to lie to survive #it's doing a massive disservice to this story to approach it from the angle of someone might think on that too hard and think it's... #...inappropriate :( let's be the yen press and tweet something about sebastian being a mom so no one has to question what they're looking a #in a STORY THAT'S ABOUT QUESTIONING THE TRUTH OF WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT #i don't even care about shipping this is just cultivating a massive media literacy problem where you are being encouraged to take a story.. #..at face value and you can't make dark jokes and you can't make stories about problematic gay people #it also bothers me bc this story has been really popular in japan for like 20 years without the mass public being in a constant state of... #...is this demon his boyfriend or dad :( like they're just fucking watching it ahdjrf #that also bothers me bc it's like you guys can't engage with any grey area relationship in a story where it doesn't fit into a box #but anyways why can japan engage with it to make it as popular and long lasting as it is and not everyone else don't say bc japan is... #...full of freaks who only like freak stories. this is also symptomatic of things i have complained about elsewhere on this blog that us... #...dub culture has cultivated an environment where us normal cool americans are going to tell freakish japanese people how to engage... #...with their counterculture cartoons in the Right way without ever having to engage with another country's culture or a story in general. #my kuro posts

[avatar-aaang]

eugh

#personal #so i try to never involve myself in Fandom stuff much #aside from the occasional art piece or fanfic #but like... i like this one ship. its 'het'. and easily one of the most hated ships lmao #and like. theyre doing that thing again of shoving the girl aside bc they want their uwu gays to be canon instead #which like i get it you want gay rep thats fine and completely understandable #but this character has just as much chemistry with the main girl who is a real character and i think people just hate it bc #if (and probably when) it goes canon itll make the main straight #which like first off thats not how it works in the real world lol im in a straight passing relationship but im not straight #and i know they wouldn't make him queer officially but its still there in the subtext #but its okay if he ends up with this girl bc it still works. and it might not even be for romantic reasons they get together lmao #anyway im not against the gay ship but people fr need to remember what genre we're in lmao #and being upset about it maybe going canon is fine but like. tbh the ending of the story has much bigger fish to fry like pls pay attention #him possibly getting with a girl isnt the end of the world #but the stupid shit theyre doing might be. good god. what a weird direction theyre going in. but ill see what happens #ANYWAY. im gonna continue to like this ship bc i think it's cute and just block people who dont like it lol #like not to be petty or whatever but im curating my experiences bitch!