#dyke discourse

[bidykes]

twitter is hurting my goddamn head.

you can't claim emily gwen is antiblack for saying the 'd' slur and attempt to create yet another lesbian flag just to spite her when you can't even be subtle about how much of a fucking lie that is.

i have never seen a credible, historically-accurate source claiming dyke is more of a racially targeted slur than a literal LESBIAN (generally speaking here) SLUR that isn't a 14yo with the "because i said so" complex.

the only reasoning i've ever seen is that "bulldyke" was AAVE once a long time ago. i don't even know if that's true, but if it is, that doesn't affirm your wish for it to automatically fucking invalidate its entire MAIN history as a slur towards lesbians and bi women. that's not how material reality fucking works. "oh well black women used to say it in their culture once, which means it's not actually functionally a slur and doesn't really affect non-black lesbians in any way except for when i want to gatekeep white & bi wlw & from saying it" - do you know how goddamn ridiculous and ignorant you sound???????? all of that goes without mentioning so far that this has NEVER been brought up before early 2021 or so, not consistently at least, and i've been keeping up with the community well before that. remember that the "bi women reclaiming dyke" discourse has been up for debate for fucking ever since lesbian separatism happened.

this comes from the damaging idea that black people cannot ever be wrong or fairly criticized on the basis of being black and it leads to shit like this. because no one questions what one individual has to say on the topic, the lie spreads and becomes the generally accepted rhetoric.

performative social justice twitter is gonna be an absolute detriment to how people are allowed to live their lives online unless they grow the hell up soon, honestly!!

#slur discourse #d slur discourse #d slur #d slur reclaimed #dyke #dykes #dyke discourse #bi dykes #bisexual dyke #lesbian separatism #lesbian history #twitter discourse #performative activism #emily gwen

[bilesproblems]

Warnings for this post: discussions of lesbophobia, transphobia, and the way people of certain identities are perceived as wlw/dykes. If reminders that queerphobes don't see trans people as who they really are can feel misgendering to you, please skip this post. I do not believe people who aren't women are 'basically wlw' if they're AFAB, and a lot of what I say in this post is "this is what a queerphobe believes" and is FAR from my own beliefs. If it's still hard to read, you may skip this post and my feelings won't be hurt. Actual post below the cut.

Saying that dyke is a slur that only lesbians can reclaim makes no sense. Lesbophobia doesn't only affect lesbians. It affects ALL sapphics, all sapphic-adjacent people, and all people that queerphobes view as sapphic.

Yes, lesbians get called dykes. Guess who else gets called dykes?

Mspec women are called dykes. People who use slurs they can't reclaim do not care for queer politics. If they perceive you as a woman who loves women, you're a dyke to them.

Nonbinary people who love women, regardless of if they identify as lesbians or even sapphic, are called dykes. Especially if they're AFAB. People who call others dykes cruelly do not give a shit about your actual gender. If they think you're AFAB, they think you're a woman, and since you love women, you're a dyke to them

GNC women, and people who look like GNC women, are called dykes. Whoever is calling people dykes can't fathom why a woman would be butch if she wasn't a lesbian or at least liked girls so if they perceive you as a GNC woman, if they perceive you as a butch, you're a dyke to them.

Trans men and (AFAB) transmascs are called dykes. This is especially true for transmascs who like women. They perceive them all as women, and therefore they see any relationships they have with women as being wlw. Transmascs in relationships with other transmascs get called dykes too, because they're both seen as women. Even if they don't know their dating history, they may call them dykes because they see them as just being GNC women. They do not care about their actual identity, they will see you as a dyke anyway.

Even straight women in relationships with trans men could be called dykes. If they see your partner as being a woman, that makes you wlw in their eyes, and that makes you a dyke.

For other lesbians to act like we're the only ones who can say dyke is ridiculous. Imagine telling someone, potentially someone who gets called a dyke on the daily, that they have no right to reclaim something that's used against them because they're not a lesbian. Slur reclamation doesn't have neat little boxes about which identities can say what slur. It's for everyone who is perceived as sapphic by queerphobes, even if they don't actually identify that way. You can reclaim dyke if the lesbophobes/queerphobes think you're a dyke. To them, you are, because they don't respect your actual identity and they don't care for queer discourse.

#dyke #dyke discourse #slur discourse #d slur #d slur discourse #all wlw can say dyke #all qlw can say dyke #even if ur not wlw or qlw if ur called a dyke u can say dyke

[fruitsofmylabia]

#dyke discourse #young m.a

[bi-sapphics]

starting the new year off right by saying that i love calling myself a dyke because it feels more unifying. it feels more like a pro-feminist movement and it feels more like reclaiming power of community and culture than just calling oneself a just by the name of their sapphic orienation inherently would be.

i'm sure that, being bi, i'll probably get accused of "fetishizing" the term for an aesthetic while being denied my own experiences and right to belong. but i don't care, because it's my identity and i claim dykehood for myself without their permission. it's no wonder those who want to erase queer history would fail to understand why real dykes don't hate each other.

i AM a dyke. i love BEING a dyke. i'm not going to apologize to anyone this year for that, but i will honor the term by defending my sisters and siblings who identify with us.

#d slur #d slur reclaimed #d slur discourse #d slur mention #dyke tag #dyke posts #dyke history #dyke positivity #dyke discourse #dykes on bikes #it doesn't feel like a word anymore lmao

[the-mad-prince-of-denmark]

A Letter to Heterosexuals by Jenifer Camper

#personal #queer #dykes #gay #gay history #gay comics #leabian #lesbian history #proof that the discourse is not and has never been new

[wilder-and-lighter]

You can be butch and not be some stoic badass. You can be femme and bE that stoic badass. You can be butch and wear earrings. You can be femme and not wear any jewelry.

Just in case someone told you otherwise.

#queer discourse #queer #lesbian #butch #femme #wlw #sapphic #sapphic love #sapphic identity #butch identity #femme identity #butch lesbian #femme lesbian #soft butch #butch4butch #butch dyke #butch4femme #stone butch #femme4butch #femme4femme #100!! #200!! #300!! #400!! #500!!

[samdyke]

misha collins can reclaim fag by the same logic thats like if two girls are holding hands on the street and they get called dykes the guy yelling at them wont stop to ask if one of them is bisexual and not a lesbian, actually. if they ever asked that man if he was a faggot before calling him one his answer did not change their minds

#i think queer people can say whatever queer slurs theyd like obviously bi people can be dykes and fags thats not my point #but my posts on here famously get discoursed so nipping that in the bud. anyways misha collins is allowed #kora.txt

[st-dionysus]

it's nobody's business too police labels and identities for other people but I will say the reason you might be getting backlash for calling yourself a dyke is because it is insensitive to lesbians who do get called that in a derogatory way so it's those people who can reclaim it, it's something that though used interchangeably with lesbian and used as a specific lesbian identity is a reclaimed slur so I think it's something that can and should be used but with grace and understanding for those who are sensitive to it.

I get called Dyke as a slur. I have been beaten and faced SA from and by people who have called me a dyke. I have been called dyke when I was a lesbian and I have been called dyke after coming out as a trans man, because to cis society I am a dirty filthy dyke, to lesbian separatists, I am a traitorous self-loathing dyke.

It is insensitive and transphobic to police the language that trans men have reclaimed. It is insensitive and transphobic to refuse to acknowledge that trans men can come from and still exist in the lesbian community. Furthermore, it is insensitive and transphobic to presume that trans men exist on a binary and that we are unable to have complex relationships with are sexuality and gender. Trans men, having been reclaiming dyke for as long as it has been used a slur. It is not a specific lesbian identity -- it has been used by ALL queer women and ALL transmasculine people, including trans men. When I go to the dyke bar, guess what? They have trans men there. When I got the dyke march, guess what? They have trans men there. There are trans men in every single dyke community space that hasn't been overrun by TERFs, Lesbian separatists, or libfems.

It is only online that I have EVER been told that I am not a dyke, that I can not reclaim that identity, that I should be understating/sensitive of the people who attack me and try and police my gender, sexuality, and identity.

Hell, even the TERFs I've dealt with in person, call me a broken deadbeat dyke, and I've reclaimed that. When someone tells me I'm a dyke while they try to misgender me, whether they're just a run-of-the-mill transphobe or a TERF. Guess what? I get to say "Yes I am, and that doesn't make me less of a man, you don't know me and you don't get to choose who or what I am." And I will tell that to anyone who decides they get to police any aspect of my identity.

I do not owe anyone Tumblr/Twitter an explanation for who not only am, but for who I am accepted as by my community.

I am sorry if the tone of this answer comes off as angry, but I am angry, and I have the right to be.

#Answers #Saint Speaks #Dyke Drama #Slur discourse #transandrophobia #FTM dyke #discourse

[fuckit-weballin]

I cannot be the only one who finds Mclennonyaoi to be so fucking annoying

#I had to see their posts when they were dyke-crossing #i remember when they would just start discourse in the dsmp fandom all the fucking timer #and then they started shit talking the fandom while still being in it #super I’m so cool and above all of you energy

[bidykes]

heyyyyy sooooooo............................... i just spent a few hours making my own carrd on the topic. please spread it, either by reblogging or sharing the link elsewhere, if you can!! thank you!!

#bi dyke #bi dykes #bisexual dyke #bisexual dykes #dyke discourse #dyke education #d slur #d slur discourse #slur discourse #dyke origins #dyke reclaimed #d slur reclaimed #d slur reclaiming #reclaiming the d slur #lgbt education #lesbian history #lesbian separatism #lesbian discourse #lgbt carrd #lesbian sources

[faggymutt]

Hey! Dyke is a slur against lesbians and is theirs to reclaim, I recommend looking up the history behind it before trying to claim a slur against people you don’t identify with. It’s not a label for anyone to use and it’s not a silly fun word, it’s a literal slur that’s been used against us for decades and something we’ve finally reclaimed and made part of our culture. I understand gender and identity are hard but using a label you literally admit to not relating to in the slightest because you like the way the word sounds just feels weird and a little offensive.

okay tumblr anon, ill be sure to remember that whenever i’m having insane dyke sex with my boyfriend using my dyke strap and my dyke fingers and my dyke tongue and my dyke-

#dex says #hi hi hi anon!! #sorry ur probably new here! i don’t care about slur discourse LOL #also just bc i’m not a woman or a lesbian doesn’t mean i don’t relate to dykes lmfao go off transphobe #trans men dykes 🤝 lesbian dykes #why are we fighting when we could be making out sloppy style?

[bi-sapphics]

I’m a lesbian and I really don’t care if bi people say dyke or not. I’m not trying to be all “not like other lesbians” but a bi woman is going to be called a dyke by a homophobe, a homophobe will not care if you correct them and go “um ACTUALLY im bisexual.” Also why would I go up to every sapphic using the word dyke and go “ARE YOU LESBIAN????” Idk I’m only like one lesbian out of a bajillion so maybe it doesn’t matter what I say

!!!

#tbh u probably *will* be seen as a pick-me by your own community #bc that's just how it is in online spaces; people tend to eat each other alive #over the smallest and most unnecessary things #but that's not a problem you cause by standing up for bi women #and your voice definitely does matter #i won't say i'm 'listening to you' or 'respecting your opinion' #bc no one has the authority to tell me not to call myself a dyke. i know i can do that if i want. #and it's not for u to discuss over my head like any other issue that actually affects lesbians #*however* i do appreciate your solidarity and affirmation that i'm safe to be a dyke around people like you #and your understanding of how the world works in reality can help contribute to the discussion #with your thoughts as a lesbian and help fight erasure of bi history and lived experiences #so yeah you're right and thank you for saying it!! #chase answers #slur discourse #d slur discourse #d slur #dyke discourse #bi dykes #biphobia #bi tag

[apollos-boyfriend]

i think. something that a lot of young queer kids who engage in online discourse don’t realize is that none of it matters in the real world. at all. i have been in so many queer spaces with queer people of all ages and never once have i witnessed anyone ever make a fuss about someone’s identity. i’ve seen lesbians who identify as dudes in the same room as the most femme women you’ll ever meet. fagdykes and dykefags and old bisexuals who call themselves half gay or half lesbian because that’s just the terminology they’re used to. and no one cares. no one even acknowledges these things half the time because it’s all just normal. it’s the queer experience. if you do make a fuss, a lot of people aren’t going to debate their right to exist with you. they’re going to ask you to leave, because you’re being a dick. and in my experience, if you do find a place that does care, that regulates and polices identities and labels, there’s a 90% chance you’ve found yourself in some terf-ran bullshit, because exclusionism is and always has been rooted in terf ideology. no one else gains anything from creating walls and strict limits in queerness. no one.

#icarus speaks #discourse #idk. carson’s got me thinking again #i genuinely can’t stress enough how no one gives two shits #people think it’s cool!!! weird fucky identities are awesome!!! #it’s not something ppl get caught up on. it’s brought up maybe once depending on the function #but aside from that. you just interact like normal fucking humans #bc no one cares that the dyke in the corner calls himself a boyfriend. let him live his life #what are you a cop has become a meme but it’s genuinely what it’s like

[furbearingbrick]

Sappho when weird nerds on the Internet claim bi lesbians were invented by TERFs in 2010

[image id: the "sad ant with bindle" meme, edited so that the ant has curly dark hair and a gold-colored headband like the poet Sappho, the ancient lesbian Greek poet after which the term "sapphic" is named, is often depicted with. end id.]

#brick attempts to be funny #history jokes #sad ant with bindle #bugs #lgbt+ humor #sapphic discourse #also: bi dykes from the 80s and 90s

[genderoutlaws]

i presented on this panel a hot minute ago about like being trans in the workplace basically and it’s really so encouraging to be able to speak out to a range of ppl but especially to the older trades union guys who like, kinda have no idea about anything, but are actually super eager to learn and support this new face of labor organizing as their comrades all the same.

there was a question from a guy about like the use of queer nowadays tho, since i introduced myself as a genderqueer transsexual, and because when he grew up like that was so full of hate. and i answered like yknow, i wouldn’t broadly apply it still because it is full of pain for so many people, but as with AIDs activists in the 80s and 90s like, it’s reclaimatory, it’s meant to be punchy, it’s meant to make you uncomfortable.

but i keep thinkin n i’ve landed on a more solid answer for myself which is like. i’ve Really struggled with the word queer bc i grew up in a small rural conservative area where that was not said with love, where kids on rooftops threw rocks and called me a faggot when i walked by, where i couldn’t even go through a taco bell drive thru without being called a dyke. and the thing is now as times get a lil more socially conscious, as i live in a city with more liberal values, as i am in a workplace that at least claims itself to be LGBT friendly, i’ve realized that just because they stopped calling me a queer doesn’t mean they stopped treating me like one. so i think that’s why i’ve been able to take on words like dyke and fag and queer, out of pride And out of pure spite.

#this is long n rambling but i was jst thinkin abt this again #bc ppl were discoursing on that dyke march post again n its tough bc im like mm i rlly truly do get both sides ykwim #like i dont expect anyone else to feel the same but idk im just like Processing

[tentavamp]

Goes without saying that disrespecting people’s existence is bad but like. you can tell someone is so mortally attached to their internet superiority complex when they pretend that “offensiveness” that comes from real historical accounts of a lesbian learning not to think so poorly of trans women in the 80’s or whatever else that was in dtwof that’s clearly ignorance common from the time is worse than someone sitting down to write their own fictional little universe in the 2010’s to pump out all the shit that homestuck was getting up to (weird race discourse with jane, poc steryotypes, other not race related shit including fumbling their headlining sapphic ship in the post-story so badly that it ruined everything about it) AND that it’s more foundational to the queer community.

You are so media brainrotted that you think that Alison Bechdel’s work needs to be omitted because it’s not fandomable and it isn’t all just the best most flowery parts of being alive during the gay liberation that you can keep posting to your aesthetic/relatable/whatever blogs. She’s not a character you pathologize over she’s a real ass person that accurately depicted and did not censor her past flaws and bigotries that were unfortunately common at the time.

#like i’m not fucking ‘going to bat’ for dykes to watch out for like you homestuck mfers are #it’s just objective fucking fact that yall are twisting into a fucing crypto terf narrative #like i’m not defending my stupid fandom that i host panels on #this discourse is fucking stupid i have more respect for the people clearly beig like haha it would be funny as fuck if homestuck won #bone rattling