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iamafanofcartoons · 2 years
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Huh? What what? Eruption Fang is a Jacques apologist?? I've seen many of his videos where he defends Whitley's character? (By many of his videos I literaly mean I only ever watched his 'Whitley is a victim too' videos because his thirst for certain characters and defensiveness towards Raven, Harriet and Cinder make me mad). But yeah! I guess I am confused by him defending Jacques, could you elaborate please?
Eruptionfang, or Cole as he's known on Twitter, is in love with the idea of emo male sociopaths who talk about moral grayness.
A sociopath has no morals...has no virtues...but they are portrayed in media as charismatic....and people are brainwashed on that trope.
Vergil from Devil May Cry, Vicious from Cowboy Bebop, and Adam Taurus.
All three are trenchcoated men wielding katanas who are emo and hurt other people, often innocent people, and betray others for their personal goals.
Everyone attempts to defend their actions, all 3 of them.
But we first see Adam raiding train, wanting to kill all the passengers...and we see Blake stopping him.
Every single Adam Apologist began accusing Blake of being a war criminal and just as bad as Adam ...simply for standing in his way.
What's more, these people Blame Blake for Adam's actions.
So Sexism and Homophobia is something you'll find a lot of on EruptionFang's discord server...if he has one. He is basically another Adel Aka or Hero Hei...I'm not touching his channel, but word is that he IS a defender of child molester Vic Micnogna, who was Qrow Branwen's first VA.
Now as for Cinder Fall? Basically she's trying to kill the female main protagonist...for Cole, that's enough to put her in his good book.
Raven Branwen? We first meet her after her tribe wiped out a village just to plunder it...Raven began talking about Social Darwinism...which RWBY Critics ascribe to, and EruptionFang was furious to find that Raven's tribe was not as strong as her, because it meant that Raven was using social darwinism as an excuse to do what she wanted.
I like that about RWBY....they cut open "gray morality" and show how it is just an excuse for bad people to do whatever they want...and the fact that women oppose these people upset a lot of men and women who hate the female protagonists and love the male authority-fascist villains.
He loves Harriet because she's basically "Good soldiers follow orders" and we see in The Clone Wars and RWBY how blindly following orders causes problems.
As for Jacques? Despite him slapping Weiss, Cole decided that it had to be Weiss' fault for the slap, and that anything Weiss said against him, from stealing the family legacy, to changing his name as a con-man? Was Weiss needing to be disciplined.
He was also furious at Jacques Death because he wanted Jacques to get a redemption.
You'll see that RWBY Critics HATE the idea of female characters like Ilia Amitola or Emerald Sustrai getting redemptions, but cis white male characters like Adam or Ironwood or Jacques not getting redemptions is apparently character assassination.
At the end of the day, RWBY has more good POC characters than bad...and more POC live to see another day.
Which is ironic considering that the villains that the RWBY Critics defend so passionately are all white men in positions of authority.
This love of fascism, the military industrial complex, unchecked power, and men being allowed to commit whatever atrocities as long as it can be called "tough decisions" or "morally gray" is what led me to have a disdain for RWBY Critics who claim to "care about the show and want it to be better"
No...they want the show to lionize their white male character over the women protagonists.
And when people claim to be "Fixing" RWBY? Their focus is on hurting female main characters by stripping away their characteristics and overfocusing on men...especially the bad ones.
Because between female main characters with optimism vs male authority figure antagonists?
A criticism channel will always choose the male.
And I pity them.
In the meantime, take these to use to block out EF's channel.
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dragynkeep · 2 years
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What’s your opinion on the YouTuber EruptionFang?
we agree with some of his opinions but heavily disagree with others, especially the ones surrounding raven but that's just. what you'll get with the community as a whole lmao. he's pretty well spoken & knows how to put forth an argument, arguably one of the better rwbytubers alongside vexed.
luke thinks he's hot ✨
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dinodogs · 2 years
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I'm currently working on a script to call out and name all the shitty actions of several rwby 'critics'. And just address the blatant misogyny of the rwby fndm. However I can't seem to find screenshots of a lot of these peoples tweets that I know exist, so if you've got any screenshots of Vexed Viewer, EruptionFang, and Hero Hei specifically being shitty then please send em to me, or put them in the notes of this post.
And if you have any suggestions on some other names that deserve a comment, lmk. I've got a list and I'm checking it twice.
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there are no good borderlands youtubers. this is a fact
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melonteee · 10 days
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I'm watching a video about one piece video games ("the weird world of one piece games" by EruptionFang) and there are some Epic silly game moments I just have to share: 1) sanji with a gun (6:38) 2) zosan smiling at each other & fist bumping (41:01) 3) a game where the whole crew turns into animals and it's actually pretty cute (48:37). there's also a cute new version of the strawhats-running-together montage from the bon voyage opening at 58:53 c:
zosan fist bumping...we've entered a bizarro world HAHA
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Some left-wing RWBY "critics" that I can think of include people such as Twiins Iink, Judgmental Critter, Unicorn of War, Hbomberguy, Anime Slushie, and some RWDE posters. Some right-wing RWBY "critics" that I can think of include people such as Adel Aka, Vexed Viewer, EruptionFang, Hero Hei, CaptainPrice and some of the members of r/RWBYcritics.
Both Twiins Iink and EruptionFang have called Blake Belladonna and Yang Xiao Long killing Adam Taurus in self-defense (after telling him to leave them alone) "murder".
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Adel Aka, EruptionFang and Vexed Viewer are all misogynistic anti-LGBT bigots.
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Unicorn of War went as far as to state that he wished the hound would "kill everyone at the Schnee manor, with the exception of Penny and Whitley", and agreed with a post from one of his insane fans stating that the origins of humans and faunus in Remnant was akin to "Nazi Propaganda", and stated that the white voice actors of RWBY "should be fired and replaced with nonwhite voice actors", etc.
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The Judgmental Critter (Twiins Iinks equally batshit insane sister) stated that Ruby was wrong/evil for cutting off Tyrian's stinger in self-defense (after he tried to kill her uncle and kidnap her), and that she should have felt bad/"reflected on it", because she has a sister (Yang) who had a limb chopped off.
RWBY Villains : The "Hero's" - YouTube
Let's Talk About Tyrian's Tail I Guess? - YouTube
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matrixdragon · 1 year
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Seems you and Lilith picked up a new stalker.
twilightguardian worships "fixing rwby" the same way EruptionFang worships Adam Taurus.
And apparently both of you are in her crosshairs for RWDE Rant posts.
Thought you'd like the heads up.
People are stalking me and ranting about my random comments on posts? Either I'm suddenly amazingly influential, or someone really has no life.
I'm betting on the later honestly.
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kob131 · 1 year
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So apparently Judgmental Critter responded to an animator on RWBY's comment ('Please let the influx of gays from this episode singlehandedly greenlight Volume 10') by saying that RT did it for money. And the animator actually responded by saying 'No I didn't and take my words out of your mouth!' And then Critter privated her account after apparently calling her a bully.
You know, I find this fucking hilarious. Critter is known for acting stupid and doing stupid shit despite KNOWING better so it was just a matter of time before she crossed someone bigger than her and would hit back. It happened with the critic subreddit and now it's happened with a vocal animator. She always picks fights then scampers away once it's clear she can't win.
But hey, not like the critic subreddit is much better. General consensus there seems to be 'Obviously they're doing this for clout and obviously Trouche is bad...but Critter criticized Adam so she deserved it!' Apparently many actually believe that the likes of Vexed Viewer and EruptionFang would have taken it better...even though neither one of THEM are stepping up. Almost like Critter getting push back scared them or something...
And all of this...because of a tweet from the animator's self proclaimed SHITPOST account. A SHITPOST account from an animator working for a very hands off company and team.
Literally the only thing that went right was the dunking on RT's shittiness. And you don't get credit for that anymore- Everyone hates them now.
Whole thing could have been averted if a certain critic could have just kept her mouth shut. But hey, ain't this what always happens? Someone steps just a little too far, the crew ascertain that they will not stand for it and they collapse like a house of cards. Because it's all tough guys and gals until someone bigger hears you talking shit...
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lexsnotdead · 1 year
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eruptionfang's videos are usually kinda mediocre (like... in his fl4k vid he explicitly says the devs use they/them for them and then proceeds to he/him them in the rest of the video) but his ava vid is very good
ah. i wasn't aware of that, ty for letting me know.
but watched his video about ava at least twice, it helped me shift away from my previous flat hater mindset. character development has happened
so yeah i think this one vid is still worth recommending
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saltwukong · 1 year
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wait did calixyn used to work for rt???? i only very recently started paying attention to rwbytubers and rwby ccs outside of the company so i dont really know what the general consensus is on any of the names that pop up on youtube (calixyn, vexed viewer, tjc and twiins, eruptionfang, ect)
No, not as far as I know. Calixyn is one of those big name fans that all hang around the same sphere. She made a video about an hour long once genlock had aired and the mess with gray haddock was public. Ostensibly she was very devastated and angry to hear how things at rooster teeth were being run but that sure didn't stop her from continuing to make rwby content to this very day.
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iamafanofcartoons · 2 years
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Oh yeah the dude who channel got hacked, his channel is now dedicated to crypto currency
You mean the greatest Adam apologist and defender of "Straight Qrow" on the internet is no longer active and I don't have to see his videos when I type "RWBY" into the search bar of youtube?
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dragynkeep · 8 months
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Lol RWBY stans being mad and saying YouTube reviewers like eruptionfang and hbomberguy are the reason v10 hasn't been greenlit when neither of these guys have done a RWBY video in ages.
one of my mutuals have pointed this out but if hbomber's meticulously researched 3+ hour long video can be the thing to take down rwby after reiterating the multiple abuses about the company, the shoddy writing & the questionable characterizations: then maybe v10 maybe never deserved to be made. maybe this shit should've died when monty did.
or maybe it was the multiple court cases + exposes that actually put v10 in the grave & hbomber, someone who has actually done charity work for marginalized folks instead of abusing + raping them like those in rt, is just a scapegoat.
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Blake Belladonna is better than Mikasa Ackerman
Take that, Mikasa Ackerman fan!
Death Battle!
Adel Aka, Eruptionfang& Nemesis Bloodryche are disrespect, disgusting & worst rwby fans of all time!
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THE WAINLOCK GUIDE
Preface
Hello! Welcome to the Wainlock guide! I’m Nikolai Jakobslock, your host and number one scholar in the ways of Borderlands old man bara. Today I will be presenting you with my Knowledge of these two silly peepaws, and how to write them; and trust me, I am qualified to speak on this topic. They do not call me the CEO of Wainlock for nothing.
DISCLAIMER 1: Certain aspects of this, especially the symbols sections, are subjective. Like all fictional characters, these two are ultimately up to interpretation. Here, I am just laying down the way I personally interpret these two, and what I can extrapolate from canon.
DISCLAIMER 2: This text assumes you have played BL3 and BL2, and have at least basic familiarity with these two. I am not going to explain the entire Borderlands lore here. Go watch EruptionFang’s timeline for that, or whatever. I tried to be comprehensive, but even I have my limits.
DISCLAIMER 3: This might be a little bit incoherent because I have ADHD, which means I have a crippling addiction to writing walls of text. Also, English is not my first language. Sorry.
CONTENT WARNINGS: Usual Borderlands fare (gore, animal and human death, guns), alcohol, drugs, mentions of sexual assault, abuse, parental neglect.
Sir Alistair Hammerlock(-Jakobs)
Backstory
Hammerlock is from the planet Hermes. Not much is known, but it apparently has a thin, helium-rich atmosphere, and forests. It is ultimately up to you how you interpret this information, as we haven’t visited the place yet.
It’s unclear when he left home, but what is somewhat clear is that he left early and has no intentions of returning. His family is, or at least styles themselves, like a noble house; getting rich off of questionable ventures (they have what he calls “blood money”) and genuinely being shady as all fuck. Additionally, his father was needlessly harsh (sending him to Pandora as a punishment for swearing in a formal environment), and his mother doesn’t seem to be a good person either, considering how even Aurelia is waiting for her to die.
While he is by no means poor, he seems to live (or have lived, until he literally married into a multi trillion dollar megacorporation) in relative squalor compared to his turbo-mansion owning sister, so it’s safe to say he inherited none of his family’s fortune. (Not to mention how rusty and scrappy his prosthetics look.) He represents the trope of the impoverished blue-blood, as well as someone who defected from what we might consider decadence.
Hammerlock is a hunter, adventurer and gentleman. He is described as such in his very intro cards, and this has echoed through his entire character.
He has been all over the Borderlands, perhaps even all over the Six Galaxies, and seems to have a “this reminds me of…” for every situation. He worked in corporate advertising, he’s seen wonders beyond imagining, he’s written at least one book on the myriad creatures of the galaxy. He’s befriended pretty much every Vault Hunter of note. Both Eista (a fellow hunter) and the lore book admit he has a legendary reputation.
That being said, of course, a life of adventure isn’t so glamorous as it seems. He admits to having a large collection of scars from being shot, bitten and mauled so much, and there’s even a line that implies he was once sexually assaulted. And of course, then there’s Old Slappy.
Personality
Despite the trauma mentioned above, Alistair doesn’t seem to budge from his shiny, chipper demeanor. He’s probably the nicest guy on Pandora, in fact.
He’s honest, kind, doesn’t get angry when the player messes up a sidequest and kindly explains what you need to do.
However, he also doesn’t often show explicit (negative OR positive, though mostly negative) emotion. Rarely does his steely gentleman persona - or perhaps, armor - break. The closest it gets is in either his Parting Words echolog, when he seems on the verge of crying as he says what he thinks is his last “farewell”, or in the ending of Guns, Love and Tentacles, where his voice cracks TWICE as his concern for his beloved reaches its apex.
Also in that ending, he admits he “was so afraid”. This is one of the only 2 times he genuinely admits fear (outside of the immensely gentlemanly and polite expression “I’m afraid I…”), and this is understandable. He’s a fearless adventurer! He’s not afraid of anything!
Except he is. He very much is. He just does not admit it to anyone willy nilly.
In fact, he doesn’t admit much of his emotions in general. He is a stoic, the archetypal gentleman with a stiff upper lip. (This is far more pronounced in BL2 than in BL3: I choose to interpret it as Wainwright helping his beloved open up a little.) But it is a facade, and underneath is a tangled bundle of repressed emotions.
What is NOT a facade, however, is his sheer hope. Regardless of the things he’s seen, he does seem to genuinely believe in the inherent goodness and kindness of people. He was willing to give Aurelia one last chance, even after all she’s done.
Keep in mind to not mistake this for naivety or harmlessness, of course. Alistair is intelligent, and as bloodthirsty as you’d expect a seasoned explorer of the Borderlands to be. In fact, his thrill-seeking tendencies sometimes even teeter on the masochistic. I wouldn’t be surprised if his (human) killcount was in the early triple digits.
His passion for and dedication to his life’s work as a zoologist is equally admirable, and personally reminds me of the way an autistic is passionate for their special interest (because I am autistic). This is a man with a zest for life, and enough energy to power a large city for a week.
Dialogue
Alistair speaks with that typical, quintessential Received Pronunciation accent. His voice is crisp, clear, melodic.
His vocabulary is very sizable. Often will he use complex, sophisticated words, and that often ends up with his lines being overly verbose. Like, really long. I recommend picking up a thesaurus to find the fanciest synonyms you can find.
If he does swear, it’s usually something light like “bloody”, or a verbose/fancy version of a preexisting swear, like “fecal matter!” instead of “shit!”.
Despite him talking like the Victorian English gentleman directly stolen from a steampunk novel that he is, he is not above peppering in the occasional hard swear or funny word. “I’m standing right here, dude.” comes to mind. Also, I just think he should be allowed to say fuck in sufficiently emotionally charged situations.
Speaking of those, we don’t really ever see him having a proper breakdown, but if he would, I think he’d just vomit a tide of half-formed word salad.
Associations, Symbols, Motifs, Etc.
This section is subjective.
Air, weather, wind (something something Hermes is the god of messengers)
Lightning, energy
The Sun
Snow (NOT ice, that’s his sister’s thing)
Nature, fauna (obviously), but also human naturalism; awareness of man as an animal with biological functions or as a persistence predator
Animal death: bones, teeth, fossils, leather-bound books, fur coats, taxidermy
Precision, finesse (it’s weapon based characterization: sniper rifles are his preference after all)
The ideal of a medieval knight: chivalry and nobility but also armor and weapons
Swords, rapiers, knives; scissors, needles, razors
Mechanisms, specifically clockwork (steampunk comes to mind again)
Glass & earthenware in general, especially cracked (scarred)
Travel, motion
Metals: silver, copper, brass and bronze; anything molten, polished or scratched
Light
Sugar, particularly sugary baked goods (biscuits), with the exception of certain savory flavors like meat
What NOT to do
DO NOT give out first name privileges to too many characters.
The only people in the series who ever call Alistair by his first name are his sister and his husband. Everyone else calls him Hammerlock. If someone calls him by his first name, it better fucking be someone important to him, like a long-time close friend.
DO NOT fall into racist cliches holy fuck man.
If I have to see one more work where a character of color is described as having chocolate colored skin I will go insane. There’s, like, a 100000 descriptors you can use and you choose the racist cliche.
DO NOT ignore the fact he’s disabled.
Do some research on phantom pains, how prostheses can be both useful and cumbersome (often the latter).
Wainwright Del Frisco Jakobs(-Hammerlock)
Backstory
Wainwright’s homeworld is Eden-6, which is thankfully a location we can visit in game. In fact, we can even visit his ancestral home, the Jakobs Estate.
As far as we know, he has never been offworld until Alistair sort of dragged him out of his house and into the great beyond. He knows the nooks and crannies of the manor like the back of his own hand, and uses that knowledge to outrun and misdirect Troy, among other things. In a way, he is that place, - explicitly being described as a homebody.
We do not know much about his mother Margaret, but he seems to miss her dearly. His father Montgomery however… well. Ol’ monty was quite neglectful. He refused to spend money to maintain certain parts of the estate, or to ensure his son had a good life. When Winny opened up about not feeling strongly about running the family business, Monty seems to have pinned the blame on his son’s boyfriend, and not on his own shitty parenting.
That being said of course, it’s not like Wainwright didn’t go out of the house at all. ECHO logs describe him as going to bars around the basin, mingling with the “common folks”, things like that. For an heir to a megacorporation, he sure is surprisingly down to earth (in stark contrast with Katagawa Jr., another corpo higher-up we meet in BL3).
Additionally, before the CoV killed everyone, the manor was full of staff and relatives and visitors. It was alive, its own microcosm of the world, and young Wainwright definitely made friends with a great many of them.
Now, they’re all gone, and the manor’s empty and largely unused. Decrepit, even. But he could restore it to glory.
Not to mention the mistakes his corporate predecessors have made are waiting for him there, in his office, to be unfortunately discovered…
Personality
Wainwright is a fairly simple, good ol’ boy. Humble, insecure, even anxious - but also painfully stubborn (that last one is a Jakobs family trait, if a certain line is to be believed).
He is far more open about his emotions, and not just when he’s drunk. Sometimes he curses like a witch, yet joyfully exclaims just how much he’s glad that the Vault Hunter saved his life (thank you David Wald, you really put your whole pussy into this performance).
Speaking of drunkenness, this is a crucial part of him, and not just because he drinks whiskey a lot. At best, he’s a social drinker and at worst he’s drowning his sorrows.
He’s somewhat grumpy, with some of that old man crankiness in him, but also not really. Preferring peace and quiet, he himself is fairly peaceful, but heavens fucking help you if you disturb him. In essence, the guy’s a period piece white suit wearin’ southern gentleman: charming, fine, but also fairly “stiff” or “slow”. Except without the shitty parts (i.e. racism), thank god.
Wainwright is fiercely protective of his own, being prepared to sacrifice anything for them - including himself, even (back to that humbleness and insecurity, but with a selfless bent). He’s also not above using underhanded tactics to get what he wants (back to that stubbornness again) from people he doesn’t trust or like. He’s the Wisdom to Alistair’s Intelligence, if that makes any sense; he can be a little bit clueless sometimes (you’re supposed to run AWAY from the glowing pit cultists are sacrificing people to, not towards it!).
For people he does trust, though - he definitely believes in fairness and kindness. Reliance, civility, honor, all that, are qualities he absolutely has even if he doesn’t think so.
He’s not particularly out for blood unless it’s revenge related or self defense, but this being Borderlands his killcount is absolutely above 0.
Personally, I think he also has a slight epicurean or perhaps even hedonist streak, enjoying and savoring life’s pleasures as they come and go, but understanding that suffering is a painful, inevitable part of life.
Dialogue
Wainwright speaks in a typical southern accent, even though Eden-6 being the Space Louisiana that it is, you’d expect a specifically Cajun accent (and to me, this man is 100% Cajun as fuck). If TvTropes is to be believed, then this is something that happens often, but y’know. His voice is warm, soft, flowin’.
Somehow, his speech strikes a perfect balance between crass and classy. He often uses wacky, flowery country metaphors and idioms, but also perfectly enunciates words like “perforate”, knowing what they mean. His vocabulary is as rich as Alistair’s if not more (reading a ton of books will do that, but also Monty says shit like morose ruminations, so.), he just doesn’t use big words as often.
He also swears much, much more frequently. When he’s drunk, or emotionally riled up, he swears up a storm. Unfortunately he never says the f word because Gearbox was too afraid to give him such power, lest his homosexuality evaporate the CoV in 5 seconds (joke).
Associations, Symbols, Motifs, Etc.
This section is subjective.
Earth, soil, mud
Gunpowder, smoke, ash, oil
The Moon
Gardens (something something Eden is garden of paradise, something something the untended gardens of the Jakobs Estate)
Fire: specifically in the context of the hearth, the fireplace, or guns
Guns and gun parts (obviously)
Wood (including woody smells like sandalwood, pine sap and cedar), paper
Cloth, silk, treated leather. Also sewing
Metals: iron, lead, gold (including in the context of gold = money, riches)
Force, strength (again, think of it as weapon-based characterization: he uses a shotgun)
The comforts of home, stillness
Doors and doorways, curtains, hallways, furniture
Time and its passing: people and alcohol aging, rotting wood, heritage and inheritance
The archetype of a king or heir to the throne
Blood, bandages
Repair, mending and maintenance, whether literal or metaphorical
Salt, with the exception of “old fashioned” sweets like syrup or honey
THE HEART STILL BEATS! THE HEART STILL BLEEDS!
What NOT to do
DO NOT assume he’s uneducated just because he’s got a southern accent.
This guy was born into a rich ass corporate family. He can perfectly say “fatal testicular devastation” without falling over his words. He’s a bookworm on levels heretofore unseen. He probably had an expensive university, or perhaps personally tutored education. This man is wise, just in different situations than Alistair is.
DO NOT type out the accent too much.
But also, DO NOT not type it out at all. Typing out those in’s and an’s can actually assist the reader with imagining his voice, recognize when he speaks, AND it’s canon accurate because the in-game subtitles also do that!
Then how much should you DO type it out? See above: around as much as the in-game subtitles would. I personally like to type it out more strongly when Wainwright is tired, and weakly when he’s pissed, but to each their own.
DO NOT ignore the fact that he’s disabled.
Yes I am saying this again. He’s half blind, and it affects him greatly. And it doesn’t look like it can be replaced with an artificial one - though if it could, I doubt he’d want it at this point.
Also he’s old. He’s probably got them creaky joints.
Putting Them Together
General Feel
They’re in love. They’re so painfully, and deeply, and sweetly in love.
They met on a hunting expedition which Monty arranged (and then it bit him in the ass a little LMAO), and it kinda went from there.
Their relationship is already long-term by BL3, based on trust and communication. They are comfortable with one another, willing to be vulnerable. Opening each other up, seeing both the good and the bad, and accepting all of it.
Their loyalty towards one another is unquestionable. If one ordered the other to kill, the other would most likely not hesitate. Speaking of violence, their fighting styles are directly opposite to one another, but would actually synergize really well together.
Of course, they bicker, like any old married couple does. But it’s all in good fun. If they have genuine disagreements, they talk them out like actual fucking adults, and either try to compromise or concede to the other temporarily. There’s no “power dynamic” bullshit involved here (outside of a sexual context, which is not something I will cover here), just two equals.
They’re very different - and both have their insecurities about this, which are explored in GL&T. But in the end, they love each other just as they are.
While the only things we canonically know they find attractive in one another are their accents and facial hair, I think a major point is the other’s personality, mind, outlook on existence. They both appreciate the world and affirm life, but in different ways: Alistair with his zest and energy, Wainwright with his calmness and slow enjoyment. In my friend’s words, they’re each other’s bitches who they pulled by being autistic. (And they definitely find each other hot and badass, let’s be real here.)
Their relationship has genuinely improved their lives, from what we can see: Wainwright gained the courage to stand up to his father, Alistair started being more expressive with their emotions. Doubtlessly this extends to other areas of their lives: Alistair being provided a place to rest from his adventures, Wainwright being dragged out from his home and experiencing the wonders of the world. They even hyphenated eachother’s surnames.
And, of course, Wainwright definitely uses some of his vast wealth to spoil his husband to bits. It’s what he deserves, really.
They say nobody’s funnier than queers, and they also say nobody’s funnier than disabled people. Well these two are both of those, and they crack jokes a lot! Not like your average Borderlands character, no - their domain is actually somewhat funny (in an old person way) dry one liners and silly quips.
Dynamics and Such
Wainwright as a sort of “dame (or rather, gentleman) of the heart”, a source of strength for Alistair, his meaning, which shelters him from fear. (“Give me strength, Winny. All I do, I do for you.”)
Alistair searching for something all his life, Wainwright waiting for something all his life. Obviously, this something is love.
Mutual admiration, almost worshipful reverence towards one another.
Silly little old men sitting on their silly little porch. Together. Gayly perhaps.
Culture shock. They come from two very different environments, and have very different tastes.
Generally just. Opposites attract. That is the core of their dynamic and one should keep that in mind.
Associations, Symbols, Motifs, Etc.
This section is subjective.
Juxtapositions of any kind, stark contrasts
Eclipses, stars
Things that should be complete opposites but actually strengthen one another: salted caramel, alloys of various metals, etc.
“Light” drugs: coffee, tea, tobacco, alcohol. As well as different ways of enjoying them
Books
Suits and other finery
Disability
GUNS (again)
Nature, the world, seasons, flora AND fauna
Swordfighting, dueling, consensual & safe sparring
Domesticity in general: literally sleeping together, cooking, tidying the house
Burials, graveyards, memory
Hygiene, care; hair washing and cutting, shaving, bathing; wound mending
Old timey homosexual symbols: green carnations and lavender, outdated terms (even reclaimed slurs), aspects of kink, etc.
What NOT to do
DO NOT apply heteronormative dynamics to them.
No, Alistair is not feminine just because he’s nice or bottoms or whatever the fuck else. He’s not feminine at all, actually.
Speaking of which, I promised not to be too sexual here, but I NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS - the top/bottom dichotomy seen in fandom is unrealistic. In general, but especially in this case. Not only does one’s sexual position indicate nothing about personality - position switching is actually an important part of a long term established relationship. So, avoid that shit like wildfire.
They’re both masculine, in the sense a fine gentleman is. Just because that masculinity is “dated” to our modern eyes doesn’t make it any less masculine. Fuck off.
DO NOT tag them if they’re a 5 second cameo. Or if they don’t even appear in the work yet.
Look, I get it. And if you’re reading this guide, you’re probably not the kind of person that would do that. But also, I am not in the Sir Hammerlock (Borderlands) tag to see your perpetually unfinished rewrite fic. Or to see your random ass ship fic that has jack shit to do with them.
“But what else do I use?!” MINOR OR BACKGROUND CHARACTER(S).
It’s fine if you have their wedding or the estate as the setting somehow. But if that’s the case, I hope they’re a BIT more than a 5 second cameo. They’re the hosts for fucks sake.
Sorry if I sound mad about this. It’s because I am.
Additional Resources
Onelook Thesaurus: my online thesaurus of choice. It also searches for synonyms, phrases, and words you can explain but don’t actually remember.
old men yaoi.zip: A .zip file of EVERY BL3 line of these two’s I could find that is not tied to a main quest, sidequest, or ECHO log in convenient .wav form. Ripped straight from the game. VERY useful, as “idle lines” often contain great trivia, but fishing for them in-game is a pain in the ass.
locres14.txt: The BL3 subtitle file, also directly ripped from the game. Incredibly large and not particularly helpful in of itself, but if you open it in Notepad++ for instance and use the search function you can find some good stuff. Particularly useful for writing dialogue, obviously.
Conclusion
Thank you for reading this! I hope this will help at least one person write these two a little bit better. They’re my favorite characters in the entire series, and it saddens me to see they get barely any fancontent outside of what I make. (My fics constitute 31% of their AO3 tag, for fucks sake!)
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Watching EruptionFang’s Church family history i thought it’d be funny if Caroline was Carolina’s real name.
Also I looked up the meaning of the name for Caroline…
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Thank you Google and thank you EruptionFang for giving me this hilarious idea.
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its impossible to talk to you. You clearly have a victim complex. No bee shipper is ever bad and all other blake and yang ships shippers are. There is no gray area, all bee shippers are innocent poor little meow meows 🥺 no objective thinking here no mam!
There are plenty of good blacksun shippers. here is what they have in common.
1. They are NOT vic micnogna apologists
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2. they don’t bash rwby or crwby
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3. They don’t trash talk Bumbleby regularly
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4. They don’t go off using derogatory imagery towards female characters or people who love rwby.
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5. They don’t take pride in their hatred of RT
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And last but not least? Good Blacksun shippers don’t act like they are victims just because two evil cis white men are dead, and two lesbians are in a relationship.
So!
Are there good Blacksun shippers in the fandom?
There are thousands of good ones. Just as there are thousands of good Bee shippers.
You just are NOT one of either.
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