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melit0n · 6 months

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Okay, so Euclid, right?? It's 5 minutes and 13 seconds long, but Vessel only starts singing at the 13 second mark. First lyric? "Just run it back, give me five whole minutes".

We, as the listener, give him five whole minutes to say what he's gotta say. Further, the song ends on the exact same piano chord that it begins with; the song, in of itself, is a loop. Anytime you play Euclid on loop, you are running it back and giving him five whole minutes.

#absolutely lost my shit when I figured this out while making my breakfast this morning #like come on dude how many little details are you gonna add like that and expect us not to loose it??#all of Sleep Token's discography have little details like this (SFX and repeated lyrics/imagery etc) and that's what makes me love them #they're artists for the sake of being artists #sleep token #st #euclid #I don't even know what to tag this as??#vessel #sleep token analysis #euclid sleep token #mel's rambles

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houseofache · 9 months

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all things end by hozier and euclid by sleep token are opposite ends of the "i'm sickeningly in love with you, but for all that is good in this world i need to let you go even if it breaks me" timeline. all things end is the searing grief of love gone wrong, and euclid is the bittersweet freedom of moving on— no longer haunted by the ghosts of loss, and instead visited by the kind apparition of love that once was.

#shut up lana #sleep token #hozier #im back on my bullshit again #euclid sleep token #all things end hozier #euclid #all things end #sleep token and hozier brain rot #analysis

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andromedaexists · 1 year

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Euclid ends with the lyrics from The Night Does Not Belong To God

The whites of your eyes turn black in the low light. In turning divine, we tangle endlessly like lovers entwined. I know for the last time you will not be mine. So give me the night, the night, the night.

#andi talks #music #Sleep Token #Sundowning #Take Me Back To Eden #euclid sleep token #the night does not belong to god #joey tag #Spotify

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vessels-cape · 7 months

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Listening to Euclid whilst looking up at the stars goes so hard

#seriously #sleep token #euclid sleep token #sleep token band

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femmeoutoffocus · 6 months

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The nıght belongs to you

💙💔

I know for the last tıme, you wıll not be mıne

#euclid #sleep token #euclid sleep token #take me back to eden #sır #all those pretty lies #fml #sapphic yearning #musings #sapphic #💔#Spotify

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june-again · 2 months

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AOGHSIEJKAHGOAIWHOIAHGIOAWHGOAIGWHG

#CRIES WAILS THROWS UP #june shines #sleep token #euclid sleep token #alt metal #alt rock tag #Spotify

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howlsnteeth · 3 months

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call me when you have the time I just need to leave this part of me behind

#:)#narilamb #cult of the lamb #cotl #cult of the lamb fanart #cotl fanart #maybe one day they'll hold hands and cast away the thought that the other would flinch away #cotl narinder #cotl lamb #lyrics are (hee heee)#euclid by sleep token #also not the last piece i'll do to this song i am vibrating to use... other parts

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aroonescape · 3 months

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Just run it back give me five whole minutes I am thick tar on the inside burning

#vessel #vessel sleep token #sleep token #sleep token art #fanart #euclid #take me back to eden #tmbte #sleep token fanart #hiiiii #im obsessed w this man #i have been called out already about the sweat and his hips #im sorry but im not

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ruinme-please · 13 days

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EUCLID

live debut April 30th 2024

#HOLY SHIT #THEY DID NOT #STILL CAN'T BELIEVE THIS #EUCLID #sleep token #teeth of god tour

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fadetodvst · 11 days

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just run it back..

#sleep token #sleep token fanart #sleep token vessel #added onto the previous drawing based on the trilogy setlist #im gonna hear euclid live twice im gonna pass away

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fivewholeminutes · 4 months

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As much as i adore vessel's current get up and tbh, wouldn't like him to change anything, if we do actually get something deer themed, especially deer skull themed, i will become ungovernable

#sleep token #worshitposting #i don't think he's gonna change anything tho but ya kno. if he does and it has deer motifs.#i will bite thorugh a concrete wall in record time #maybe the scene/lights/whatever will change instead #maybe nothing will change #maybe it's maybelline #either way i would love it no matter what #unless the US will get euclid live debut in that case i'm gonna throw hands with sleep himself #(it's not that i would normally mind. it's just. the us and japan are always getting extra cool stuff during concerts)#(i shouldn't complain anyways bc at least im in europe and we DO get concerts here)

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melit0n · 4 months

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EUCLID ANALYSIS.

Told you guys it was coming, didn't I? I apologise that this has taken a bit longer than expected, my mental health hit me like a bullet train, but I do hope it's sufficient.

Part one -> You're already here!

Part two -> Line by line analysis part 1

Part three -> Line by line analysis part 2

Part four -> Musical/intrumental notes

Part five -> The Night in Sleep Token

Part six -> Conclusion

Please note this is a general analysis. Although I do go into theories, both my own and others, this is just general thoughts. Also note when I speak of Vessel, I mean Vessel as a character, not the person, unless I specifically state so.

Tagline: @rilllvri @a-s-levynn @fivewholeminutes @euclidsvessel @tonguetyd @moonchild-in-blue @kkarmatic @branches-in-a-flood

+ Some people were worried about spam liking/reblogging the last time I did one of these big analysis posts, and I want to say please don't worry about that! I get happy when I see the same users pop up liking and reblogging my work, because it means you're interested in this enough to go through the whole thing. Feel completely free to add your own thoughts, correct any errors I've made etc. As per usual, my DMs are completely open to anybody wanting to discuss ST <3

Let's start off with the basics. ‘Euclid’ is the anglicised version of the Greek name Eukleídes (Εὐκλείδης), mainly known via the ancient Greek mathematician Euclid of Alexandria, who is seen as the ‘father of geometry’, and most famous for his work on symmetry. Its general definition is something or someone who is renowned and or glorious (A) and the lesser known definition is something that is a copy of the same (B) (taken from Euclid’s ideas on symmetry), which we’ll come back to in a bit.

However, there is another Euclid in history that we’ll be referencing; Euclid of Megara. This Euclid, similar to our mathematician, was an ancient Greek Socratic (having been a pupil of Socrates) philosopher. I’ll be taking part of a text out of his Wikipedia article since his ideas have been explained thoroughly there.

(we'll be coming back to him soon)

First off, this is an incredibly interesting choice of name for a song. Outside of someone's maths and philosophy class, this name doesn't exist to most, so the fact it's been chosen at all is intriguing.

Vessel has shown time and time again he enjoys sometimes elaborate references in his art, an example being chemistry and biology in TPWBYT (most notable would probably be ‘Telomeres’), so, I think it would be easy to say that, whether it be a reference to Euclid the Mathematician or Euclid the philosopher, that said reference is understood and intended by Vessel.

So, let's start with our mathematician, shall we?

What I find interesting about Euclid of Alexandria is that his life and existence outside of his work on geometry is almost completely unknown. There's almost nothing known of him, as a person, other than where he spent half of his career (Alexandria; Egypt, hence his title), where he may have studied (Platonic academy) and a general idea of when he lived (around 300BC). What is known about this insanely famous man who created the foundations of symmetry is incredibly barebones. People take Euclid at face value for his work, just like Vessel (both as an artist, and a character).

Further, we, as listeners, don't have much of an understanding of who Vessel is other than being a mouthpiece of a deity known as Sleep, someone once human now grasping at the threads of humanity and someone sharing some of his struggles in life (both with Sleep and unknown people). Like Euclid, he is barebones, we take him at face value; a vessel. He is both a mouthpiece for Sleep, a mouthpiece for his own emotions (obviously) and a mouthpiece for us. His experiences transcend being just his, due to his anonymity, therefore allowing us to connect and express our own experiences. It's music for the sake of music; expression.

Now, having talked through Euclid as a person, it's time to talk about Euclid and his symmetry. Symmetry in shapes is 'reflections, rotations, translations, and combinations of these basic operations. Under an isometric transformation, a geometric object is said to be symmetric if, after transformation, the object is indistinguishable from the object before the transformation- a copy of the same’. So, of course, this means shapes like squares, rectangles, parallelograms and circles. Circles are a representation of infinity, wholeness, unity and loops. What does Euclid do? Loop itself (starts and ends with B major, which also happens to be the same chord that TNDNBTG starts with), and loops the three albums together, musically and lyrically.

Now, onto Euclid of Megara.

Euclid was born in Megara, Athens and was a follower of Socrates (sneaking into Athens to hear him speak, and he was also present during his death). He is most known for his philosophy that good is the knowledge of simply being and that the opposite of good does not exist, aka evil. The Good is described to be a perfect, eternal, and changeless Form, existing outside space and time. A form of Heaven without a God.

This idea could be linked lore-wise with Sleep Token; Sleep could, in a way, be The Good literally. Bliss. Further, with the idea that there is no actual opposite of good, then how can anything be bad? How can Sleep, as a deity, have bad intentions if there is no actual evil?

So far, with these two notable figures in mind, we can perceive Euclid as one of two ways (and there are more ways to come). Euclid can be seen as quite literally being a form of symmetry; a parallel that Vessel lays his life on because it brings all of the produced albums, all of his stories, together. Or, we can think of Euclid as Vessel. This brings me to @euclidsvessel's post on their theory on Euclid; what if Euclid was Vessel’s name before he became a vessel?

The theory that Euclid could be Vessel’s old name is not only extremely insightful, but very plausible as well. They explained their points very well in their original post, and I don't want to repeat what they’ve already said, so I do implore you to go read that! It's not detrimental to needing to understand this post, but I highly recommend it. Despite this, I am here to both support their argument and bring my own comparison. Take a look at the cover art for Euclid:

Let me repeat the lesser-known definition of Euclid; a copy of the same. A clone. A replacement. Held in the right hand is the decapitated head of Vessel's old (2nd gen.) mask. Specifically, the one that covers his mouth; the version that relinquishes the most amount of humanity. The album art is a representation of change portrayed in a symbolically gory way. Beheading, depending on the era you’re working from, symbolises both vengeance as well as a form of purification. By cutting off the head, you remove any ‘unholy’ thoughts. It's also among one of the most horrific and humiliating ways of killing someone (since it was typically done publicly, and sometimes the heads were placed on spikes of battlements as a warning).

Furthermore, there's a theory that's popped up a couple of times, lore-wise, that Vessel is not the first person to be turned into a vessel of Sleep, and he certainly won't be the last. So, considering the literal album art illustrates a replacement of Vessel, I’d say that theory is pretty much confirmed. In conclusion, the album art can either be interpreted as how Vessel will eventually be discarded and replaced by another vessel, or how Vessel himself will change, for better or for worse; clawing out of his own skin to become “someone new”.

So, to compare the idea of Euclid being Vessel’s old name, and to create the third perception of what or rather, who, Euclid is, what if Euclid will be the eventual replacement for Vessel?

#I would like to mention that the idea of a 'Euclid class object's floated around Reddit theories for Euclid as well #said objects are 'anomalies that are either insufficiently understood or inherently unpredictable'#I didn't include this because it's from SCP and I thought it highly unlikely that it could be a refrence to that #but then again; a lot of the lyrics refrence hardware and un-understandable things so I thought I'd say something about it #masaive thank you to Nine for spurring me on to continue writing this and eventually post it with their theory post #just a very big thank you to everybody on ST Tumblr who post any analysis bits because you all inspire me #with that said #I hope these will be interesting for you all <3 #sleep token #st #mel's rambles #euclid #euclid sleep token #sleep token analysis #vessel #vessel sleep token #tmbte #sleep token tmbte #hiding in here that I felt a bit like Hamilton writing these #'John Jay got sick after writing five...James Madison wrote twenty nine...Hamilton wrote the oTHER FIFTY ONE'#apologies to anybody who reads that lmao

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houseofache · 10 months

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“yet in reverse you are all my symmetry, a parallel i would lay my life on. so if your wings won’t find you heaven i will bring it down like an ancient bygone”