#henry tilney supremacy

[bethanydelleman]

Okay, all those who do not accept Henry Tilney Supremacy, so in this chapter we learn that Henry was sent ahead by his father to find lodgings (which makes sense because we later learn the General is super picky). So Henry comes to Bath for a few days we can assume to look at places, and what does he do in the evening? He attends a ball. And what does he do at that ball? He asks the master of ceremonies to introduce him to a girl who isn't dancing and then is just so freaking friendly and charming.

What do you want women? Do you want a man who was dragged to a ball, is so profoundly rude that people don't even care how wealthy he is, and then calls you "tolerable"? Or do you want a man who goes to a ball by himself, for fun, and then does a comedy bit on the spot, requests that you write about him favourably in your diary, and then discusses fabric washing with your chaperone?

I know what I'm picking!

#henry tilney supremacy #henry tilney #northanger abbey

[firawren]

I'm amused that when you do a gif search in Tumblr for "henry tilney," the first gifs that come up are not of Henry Tilney/JJ Feild, they are of people swooning and making heart eyes and being excited.

Some of the first gifs that come up in the search:

TBF, these gifs do perfectly encapsulate how everyone feels about Henry Tilney 😍

#henry tilney supremacy #henry tilney #northanger abbey #jane austen #gifs

[melodramariana]

It has been so long since I've read Northanger Abbey for the first time and watched that masterpiece of a movie with JJ Feild and Felicity Jones but I am still bummed with how unappreciated and overlooked that story is.

Henry Tilney is literally there existing as the best Austen hero and Catherine Morland being one of the most relatable characters ever written and people just keep ignoring them????

#how? i dont even understand how #i believe in henry tilney supremacy #catherine morland #northanger abbey is just so perfect omg #thank you miss austen #henry tilney #only this

[bethanydelleman]

Ranking Jane Austen heroes/men on how good of a father they’d be?

I have faith that all of them would be good fathers. After all, Jane Austen clearly knows what bad fathers look like and she is pretty harsh about them (rightfully). I think all of them would be good in different ways, so instead of ranking, here is their dad type:

Fitzwilliam Darcy: Providing dad, his love language is buying his children expensive toys and praising their accomplishments to relations. He is definitely involved in education and discipline. Wee bit overprotective of his daughters, but you get it, he has valid reasons. Gives his sons handshakes instead of hugs.

Charles Bingley: Fun dad, he's not sure about this whole 'parenting' part... but Baby Charles, did you see this cool rock? Do you want to go up on Daddy's shoulders so you can see the elephant? Do you want to see Daddy's fencing swords? (Oh, good point Jane, we'll put those away for a few years...)

Frederick Wentworth: Teamwork dad, he knows that Anne could totally handle everything herself, but he's not afraid to help. He feels confident removing a toddler from someone's back after all. Occasionally cannot figure out what to do and stares helplessly at his wife.

George Knightley: Nurturing dad DOES BABY GEORGE NEED ANOTHER BLANKET? DOES HE NEED A SNACK? BABY GEORGE, IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO FOR YOUR PRESENT COMFORT??? (No, Mr. Knightley, he's fine.)

Colonel Brandon: Affectionate dad, he cries when any of his children hits a major milestone. He feels the need to constantly hug and kiss his children. They are miracles, all of them are miracles, and he is going to make them happy and what happened to him and Eliza will never happen again! They need another hug

Edward Ferrars: Thoughtful dad, constantly thinking about what will make his children feel happy and loved. Encourages them to follow their dreams. Has minor panic attacks if he says or does anything that remotely reminds him of his own mother. Elinor assures him regularly that he's doing an excellent job (because he is).

Edmund Bertram: Interactive dad, takes time to discuss their lessons and answer questions. Very anxious about his children's moral education. Will take the time to draw lines on their letter paper. Will never admit he's wrong even when he makes a mistake.

Henry Tilney: Perfect dad, like honestly, have you met him? He's a 10/10, all the best parenting traits rolled into one man. AND YET, his oldest son thinks he's totally lame.

Bonus: Frank Churchill left his child at Kensington Gardens once twice, but Jane never found out so it doesn't count.

Bonus bonus: Robert Martin totally has a mini-me son who rides beside him on a pony.

#jane austen #question response #great question! #I lied I rated Henry Tilney 1 #henry tilney supremacy #Fun fact: all women who read Northanger Abbey ovulate when they get to the country walk chapter #Austen heroes #but honestly I think they would all be good #and Henry's children will groan at all of his jokes #It will be very sobering for him

[bethanydelleman]

Why you should read Northanger Abbey

Northanger Abbey frequently scores second on polls of least liked Austen novel, but I honestly don’t know why because it's awesome. So let me try to convince you to read it...

Northanger Abbey: Everything you could wish for in a novel!

The Most Attractive Leading Man in Austen: I know you think you want Darcy, but do you really want a man who can’t take a joke? How about instead of insulting you at the assembly, he dances with you and makes you laugh! Surveys reveal that “makes me laugh” is a consistently attractive trait in a future spouse. Besides being extraordinarily funny, he also will willingly take you dress shopping, loves his sister, and reads novels. Shall we agree that he is the perfect man?

Most Relatable Leading Lady: Despite having a good education, are you sometimes a little lost in a conversation? Are you reasonably good looking, passably intelligent, and only somewhat accomplished? Catherine Morland is just a normal, everyday girl who stands up against peer pressure and falls head-over-heels in love with a cute guy. If she could be born to be a heroine, than all of us can be!

Villains So Well Drawn You Will Swear you Met Them Yesterday: Have you met a guy who constantly brags about his vehicle, talks without actually saying anything, and who assumes that girls will go for him even though he has nothing to recommend him? I have, and so has Jane Austen, its John Thorpe! Isabella is a classic drama queen who is dating a really sweet nerd but angling for the football star. You knew her in high school, I guarantee it.

Highly quotable one liners:

“I cannot speak well enough to be unintelligible.”

“The person, be it gentleman or lady, who has not pleasure in a good novel, must be intolerably stupid.”

“His departure gave Catherine the first experimental conviction that a loss may be sometimes a gain.”

Great life lessons: 

“No man is offended by another man’s admiration of the woman he loves; it is the woman only who can make it a torment.”

“Beware how you give your heart.”

“Our pleasures in this world are always to be paid for.”

and best of all, a passionate defence of reading novels from the Narrator, who continues to be sarcastic and hilarious throughout the novel.

Northanger Abbey, honestly, what’s not to love?

#austen ads #northanger abbey #such a great novel #jane austen #I think people know it's weird and so avoid it? #but I don't get the hate #It is delightful #and you don't have to read Mysteries of Udolpho first #the tropes this novel satirizes are still common today #henry tilney supremacy #catherine morland #henry tilney

[bethanydelleman]

Hey! Maybe you've talked about this before, but who's your favorite Austen Leading Man?

I don't think I've talked about it before. However, I haven't posted that Austen ask sheet because I am really terrible at picking favourites, so I usually just avoid it. But since you've asked...

Henry Tilney - I mean I constantly post about Henry Tilney supremacy, he's my favourite. He's witty, kind, knowledgeable about fashion, polite, honourable, has a great relationship with his sister, almost handsome. Really the only problem is your prospective in-laws.

Charles Bingley (runner up)- likes a party, outgoing, sweet, modest, handsome... and you get to choose the neighbourhood that he eventually settles in!

#question response #favourite austen hero #henry tilney supremacy #Charles is a sweetheart

[bethanydelleman]

I once saw someone rank all of Austen's men and of the romantic leads, they rated Henry Tilney last for being "misogynistic." I was VERY confused and had no idea how he could be read that way, especially because he embraces more stereotypical feminine activities like reading novels and picking out fabric. Is there a discourse I'm missing or is that person who made the ranking just stupid?

I believe that sentiment comes from these passages, read in isolation, all from Ch 14:

Where people wish to attach, they should always be ignorant. To come with a well-informed mind is to come with an inability of administering to the vanity of others, which a sensible person would always wish to avoid. A woman especially, if she have the misfortune of knowing anything, should conceal it as well as she can. The advantages of natural folly in a beautiful girl have been already set forth by the capital pen of a sister author; and to her treatment of the subject I will only add, in justice to men, that though to the larger and more trifling part of the sex, imbecility in females is a great enhancement of their personal charms, there is a portion of them too reasonable and too well informed themselves to desire anything more in woman than ignorance. But Catherine did not know her own advantages—did not know that a good-looking girl, with an affectionate heart and a very ignorant mind, cannot fail of attracting a clever young man, unless circumstances are particularly untoward.

and

"Perhaps the abilities of women are neither sound nor acute—neither vigorous nor keen. Perhaps they may want observation, discernment, judgment, fire, genius, and wit." (Henry Tilney)

If one takes all of this commentary seriously, Henry Tilney would come off quite badly, but it's clear the narrator is being facetious and that Henry is making a joke. Eleanor, who understands Henry's humour, does not take offence at all, and it's very clear that Henry loves his intelligent sister. So no, he's not just looking for an idiot to marry and he also doesn't think women are generally stupid. And as you say, his actions throughout the novel prove that he isn't a misogynist, he even takes pains to make Catherine feel better about her hobby of reading novels by admitting to loving them himself.

Taking what Henry says here seriously is equivalent to thinking Elizabeth was serious when she said she started loving Darcy when she saw Pemberley, a comment that her sister laughs at and then begs her to be serious!

I'm curious though, I did encounter a ranking once that rated Willoughby higher than Henry Tilney, was that the same list?

#henry tilney supremacy #henry tilney #northanger abbey #question response

[bethanydelleman]

I think Mr. Henry Tinley is the perfect husband material! He has a big house of his own (the parish house has 5 bedrooms along with other rooms, it's hardly a small house), has a good job, he loves gardening, he KNOWS muslin! Is attentive to his caring sister, is just a tiny bit naughty, is not arrogant or stupid or vain, AND is able to stand up to his tyrannical father when need arose. Like, what else would a woman want? :D

I keep saying this to people and they keep thinking Darcy is the perfect man. No! Henry Tilney is the sexiest, most husband/father material, most excellent man to every grace the page of literature and I'm still waiting to be proven wrong.

And I don't mean in Jane Austen's works, I mean all the works.

#henry tilney #henry tilney supremacy #northanger abbey #jane austen #he's so awesome #jane austen wrote him to torment us for all time

[bethanydelleman]

#henry tilney 4EVA #henry tilney supremacy #northanger abbey #memes #NA 2007

[bethanydelleman]

Henry Tilney was metrosexual before it was even a thing lol! I love him!! <3

A friend of mine told me about a lecture where they compared the ways that both Henry Tilney and his father participate in female spaces, but General Tilney invades while Henry is a welcome guest. It made a lot of sense to me!

Henry Tilney Supremacy!

#question response #henry tilney supremacy #henry tilney

[bethanydelleman]

What do you think about Northanger Abbey? I think this book is quite underrated, not to mention it is sadly in Pride and Prejudice and Sense and Sensibility shadow. My love for Jane Austen began with this book, so it's special to me. I'm so happy I've found your blog, it's just amazing :)

I LOVE Northanger Abbey. Here is my advertisement post for it. It is sadly underrated! Henry Tilney is criminally underappreciated! Catherine Morland is such a cutie! It's a lovely novel.

The most amazing part to me is how much it makes me feel even though everything is so mundane. Catherine meeting Henry and then dancing in her seat all the way home makes me so happy. When Thorpe tricks Catherine into leaving and then SHE SEES THE TILNEYS, I'm crushed along with her (even though I know it's all going to work out alright). And when Henry comes to Fullerton at the end and Catherine is too happy to even speak... ❤️❤️❤️

I still regret not reading it when I was younger because then I could have loved it for longer! My Gr. 12 English teacher told me it was "weird" so I avoided it and Mansfield Park. I don't know why people dislike it. It's hilarious and fun and cute.

and thank you!

#northanger abbey #appreciation post #question response #henry tilney supremacy #henry tilney #catherine morland #jane austen

[firawren]

Austen ask: 2 & 25

2. Favorite Austen Man

Hmm this is so hard to choose! Darcy is wonderful because he's such a snobby dick at first and goes through so much growth, and what he does for Lydia shows what an incredible man he is.

Wentworth is wonderful because his passion and devotion to Anne for so many years is swoon-worthy.

But I guess I have to say Henry Tilney is my favorite. He's got it all! He's charming, funny, witty, silly, kind, honest, loving, playful, doesn't take himself too seriously, is handsome enough to be nice to look at but not so gorgeous that he's intimidating to us normal looking folks, he likes to read, he likes to dance, he likes going on walks, he knows muslin!

(This is my most used gif on Tumblr)

25. Favorite family connection

Henry and Eleanor Tilney are sibling goals! Their relationship is just a delight to read about. They are sweet and supportive and sassy to each other, and I love all of their little remarks and looks to each other that go right over Catherine's head but that they get because they know each other so well. They're so fun.

Thanks for the ask, I love both of these questions!

Here’s the list of questions if others would like to ask me one!

#answers #ask game #jane austen #henry tilney supremacy #henry tilney #eleanor tilney #northanger abbey

[bethanydelleman]

Like I think Henry Tilney would be such a girl dad (And my favourite)

Henry Tilney is the best! And he was certainly a good brother to his sister. I'm sure he's the best at reading/telling bedtime stories.

#henry tilney supremacy #henry tilney #Northanger Abbey #question response

[bethanydelleman]

Asks about my OTPs

Pick your top 10 OTPs without reading the questions, then answer the questions after you've made your list (I will do my top 10 Austen OTPs)

Catherine Morland & Henry Tilney

Fanny Price & Henry Crawford

Elizabeth Bennet & Fitzwilliam Darcy

Harriet Smith & Robert Martin

Caroline Bingley & Sir Walter Elliot

Elinor Dashwood & Edward Ferrars

Marianne Dashwood & Colonel Brandon

Emma Woodhouse & Jane Fairfax

Eleanor Tilney & her laundry Viscount

Sir Walter & Himself

1. Do you remember the episode/scene/chapter that you first started shipping 6? – When Edward comes to Barton and makes fun of Marianne's love of dead trees.

2. Have you ever read a fanfic about 2? – Yes, my favourite is Fanny: A Mansfield Park Story by Amelia Marie Logan, and I've written severa, including one full length novel.

3. Has a picture of 4 ever been your screen saver/profile picture/tumblr screen saver? – Nope! Always my kids these days.

4. If 7 were to suddenly break up today, what would your reaction be? – This actually happens in FF quite a lot, people are always killing off Brandon early into the marriage and leaving Marianne with a baby. It makes me sad, let Brandon be happy! He's only 37 when they marry he probably has another 20 years at least! (Honestly, since Brandon has survived to his age, Marianne actually has a higher chance of passing away since she's the one making babies).

5. Why is 1 so important? – Because they are so uncomplicated and happy. Just two very cute people making a cute marriage and I would defend their ship to the ends of the earth.

6. Is 9 a funny ship or a serious ship? – Um, it's a whole joke that Austen didn't reveal a new character because the new viscount made a laundry list that Catherine found. But I love Eleanor so much that I do seriously want her to be happy.

7. Out of all the ships listed, which ship has the most chemistry? – Henry & Catherine, Harriet & Robert I think? I may be a bad judge of "chemistry".

8. Out of all your ships listed, which ship has the strongest bond? – Elinor & Edward, I'm always surprised how sure they are of the other's love in spite of of all the obstacles.

9. How many times have you read/watched the 10’s fandom? - I honestly don't know at this point, I read Persuasion once as a teenager and I didn't like it but I LOVED Sir Walter. I've watched all the adaptations (including 1971) and I've read/listened to the book multiple times now.

10. Which ship has lasted the longest? – Sir Walter & himself obviously, that's been going strong for 54 years. I hope it continues until his death at 93. All the others are new pairings.

11. How many times, if ever, has 6 broken up? – The only Austen couple to break up and get back together is Anne & Wentworth, so zero for Elinor & Edward.

12. If the world was suddenly thrust into a zombie apocalypse, which ship would make it out alive, 2 or 8? – Huh, Fanny & Henry or Emma & Jane? They both have a sickly member, which is not great for their odds... Emma is smart but often distracted which would be really bad but Jane is a devoted learner.... Henry would "improve" his estate with zombie moats... I'm voting for both Fanny and Emma don't make it and Henry Crawford & Jane Fairfax find their second true pairing together.

13. Did 7 ever have to hide their relationship for any reason? – Colonel Brandon is attempting to hide his regard out of respect for Marianne and that's why I love him so much.

14. Is 4 still together? – Yes, eating walnuts and petting "her" little cow. Man they are cute!

15. Is 10 canon? – Yep! Though a bunch of the others aren't

16. If all 10 ships were put into a couple’s Hunger Games, which couple would win? – I'm going to put my money on Colonel Brandon, who will do anything to save Marianne. He would be the Katniss and she is the Peeta.

17. Has anybody ever tried to sabotage 5’s ship? – Yes, Mr. Elliot has been trying to prevent Sir Walter from marrying again so he can inherit the baronetcy. He almost succeeds!

18. Which ship would you defend to the death and beyond? –  Catherine Morland and Henry Tilney, they are the only couple I can't bring myself to break up in fan fiction.

19. Do you spend hours a day going through 3’s tumblr page? – Um, none? I end up seeing Elizabeth & Darcy stuff no matter what, I have tags on the lesser known Austen characters.

20. If an evil witch descended from the sky and told you that you had to pick one of the ten ships to break up forever or else she’d break them all forever, which ship would you sink? – That is hard because these are my favourite, but I guess Emma can marry boring Knightley instead of having a torrid enemies-to-lovers affair with Jane Fairfax...

I'm not big on chain letters. Thank you @firawren for the tag, if anyone wants to try go ahead!

#otp #jane austen #jane austen fan fiction #and before you yell at me about leaving off canon hero/heroine pairings #They aren't my favourite #I get to pick my own OTPs! #I ship Henry and Fanny starting at Ch 30 #I love elinor and edward #I'm not wild about some of the others #Henry tilney supremacy #Henry & Catherine make me die of cuteness

[bethanydelleman]

Northanger Abbey Readthrough, Ch 3

❤️❤️HENRY TILNEY HAS ARRIVED!❤️❤️

The master of the ceremonies, Mr. King, who introduces Henry Tilney and Catherine Morland is one of the two real people mentioned as characters in Austen's novels (the other being Humphrey Repton in Mansfield Park, a real famous landscaper). Mr. King was retired by the time of publication.

I love Henry's description:

He seemed to be about four or five and twenty, was rather tall, had a pleasing countenance, a very intelligent and lively eye, and, if not quite handsome, was very near it. His address was good, and Catherine felt herself in high luck.

Ah, he is well matched with "almost pretty" Catherine Morland.

Henry Tilney is a lot like a male Elizabeth Bennet, "there was an archness and pleasantry in his manner" and "there was a mixture of sweetness and archness in her manner" (Pride & Prejudice, Ch 10) sound very similar. We also have the descriptions of their eyes being intelligent.

Now because I believe in Henry Tilney Supremacy, let me point out that Henry went to a ball where he didn't know anyone and instead of making everyone else uncomfortable (DARCY!) or just not going and doing his business (Knightley), he uses of the Master of Ceremonies to get a partner and then is just delightful. Darcy begins with insulting Elizabeth and Henry begins by being utterly charming. Just the best guy.

He starts with a hilarious bit, and while Catherine isn't sure if she's allowed to laugh, she's clearly enjoying herself. Then Tilney offers two opposing things for her to write in her journal:

Friday, went to the Lower Rooms; wore my sprigged muslin robe with blue trimmings—plain black shoes—appeared to much advantage; but was strangely harassed by a queer, half-witted man, who would make me dance with him, and distressed me by his nonsense.

or

I danced with a very agreeable young man, introduced by Mr. King; had a great deal of conversation with him—seems a most extraordinary genius—hope I may know more of him. That, madam, is what I wish you to say.

Clearly the second passage is what Catherine would actually write, though maybe not that Tilney was an extraordinary genius. She is having a very good time.

Then they discuss if women or men write better letters. Catherine is unsure that women are superior, and after some gentle teasing Henry basically agrees and says this lovely progressive opinion:

"I should no more lay it down as a general rule that women write better letters than men, than that they sing better duets, or draw better landscapes. In every power, of which taste is the foundation, excellence is pretty fairly divided between the sexes."

And then we get to Henry's most famous attribute, he understands muslins!

Catherine is a bit confused by Henry's behaviour, but she does like it (and him). However, we again have some Elizabeth Bennet vibes with this observation, "Mr. Tilney was polite enough to seem interested in what she said; and she kept him on the subject of muslins till the dancing recommenced. Catherine feared, as she listened to their discourse, that he indulged himself a little too much with the foibles of others"

There are many who think Catherine is too unintelligent to be paired with Henry Tilney, but he clearly has more respect for her than Mrs. Allen, who we are told has, "a trifling turn of mind". She is catching more of his jokes than her chaperone.

She has detected a flaw in Mr. Tilney! (This will apparently be very much forgotten later). Catherine also tells something of a lie, but then is immediately honest about it:

Catherine coloured, and said, “I was not thinking of anything.” “That is artful and deep, to be sure; but I had rather be told at once that you will not tell me.” “Well then, I will not.”

The narrator then points out that it is very bad for a heroine to think fondly of a man before he is known to love her. This is a reference to a ridiculous letter in The Rambler, where it is written: That a young lady should be in love, and the love of the young gentleman undeclared, is an heterodoxy which prudence, and even policy, must not allow. It's pretty nuts, read the whole thing if you are curious.

And we see proof of Mr. Allen's sensibleness, he quickly inquire into Mr. Tilney and finds him to be from a good family and a clergyman. Catherine is being well cared for!

#northanger abbey #northanger abbey readthrough #henry tilney #mrs. allen #catherine morland

[firawren]

How every Austen hero sucks at dating:

Darcy: basically tells his girl that he's too good for her while proposing

Bingley: ghosts his true love for several months because his friend and sisters told him to

Knightley: scolds and argues with his girl constantly

Wentworth: revenge flirts with a random girl because he's too dumb to see that he still loves his first girl

Edward: flirts with his girl when he's already engaged to another girl

Brandon: falls in love at first sight and proceeds to basically never talk to his girl, just her sister

Edmund: thinks he loves a girl who is all wrong for him just because she's hot, while ignoring the much better girl right under his nose

Tilney:

#i actually like all the austen heros except edmund #but i gotta tease them a bit because henry tilney is just flawless in comparison #jane austen men #jane austen characters #jane austen #pride and prejudice #mr darcy #mr bingley #emma #mr knightley #persuasion #captain wentworth #sense and sensibility #edward ferrars #colonel brandon #mansfield park #edmund bertram #northanger abbey #henry tilney #henry tilney supremacy #my stuff #1k #2k